the looters were riding motorcycles and dressed in street clothes, when stopped by the protesters were found to have identification that there were members of the police force.

the military is siding with the protesters

the looters were riding motorcycles and dressed in street clothes, when stopped by the protesters were found to have identification that there were members of the police force.

the military is siding with the protesters

Don’t touch my Tut.

“the military is siding with the protesters”

Sounds more like they were being destructive to their heritage and siding with increasing
their bank balances.

Sounds like subversives trying to undermine the revolution. The people who want freedom would no do such an act. Who trained these guys? Any suggestions, folks?

There are few things more repulsive than scattered mummy!

This was uncool!

“when stopped by the protesters were found to have identification that there were members of the police force.”

Thanks enorceht – where’d you find that? Is it confirmed? Fits my theory.

Good that the military is with the revolution. There’s a good chance Mubarak will have to go.

The downside of revolution. Take note teabaggers.

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I doubt this was done by people fighting for freedom, I very much doubt that.

We have the same kind of subversives here whenever there is a peaceful demonstration. All dressed in black and wearing tell-tale police footwear they instigate violence to make the peaceful look like hypocrites. You’ve seen them I’m sure – breaking windows, setting things on fire, making excuses for the police to start slamming heads, shooting down demonstrators.

Kind of like when we invaded Iraq.
(I meant brought “democracy” to Iraq – sorry)

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/loot-a19.shtml

Agent provocateurs masquerading as protesters will always be a factor in any civil unrest.
Then there are also low lifes who will take any opportunity to “get theirs” as well.

U.S. TPers take note, your double-wide is not that secure and your big-screen Wal-Mart Plasma TV makes a tempting target. Plus your pickup truck makes for an easy get away.

Evidence, please. Where did you read that?

Don’t fool yourself about the military. At the moment, it looks like they’re winning. Let’s see what they do when they take over.

re-read the post -“the looters were riding motorcycles and dressed in street clothes, when stopped by the protesters were found to have identification that there were members of the police force. “

The military is siding with the protesters otherwise it would be over now.
Remember Tienanmen Square and the massacre?

“There are few things more repulsive than scattered mummy!’

Dick Cheney it’s one of them. Coincidence he doesn’t have a heart!

I wonder how long before “The Righty Talk Chamber” blames this on liberals. Any bets on who will be first? My money is on Beck.

Al Jazeera reported that local people formed a human shield circle around the museum to protect it from looters

Aww…. people really shouldn’t attack other people’s mummies. :(

Sad and fully stupid.

PS – The whole Museum (it is basically a warehouse) makes no sense whatsoever unless you go LEFT on entering and swing around through the Centuries and only then head upstairs for additional exhibits and viewings.

PPS – If you wish to climb up inside the Great Pyramid be there at DAWN. When I did this in 2006 only 100 tickets were issued daily and you have to find the tiny ticket booth located Northeast of the Pyramid. A brilliant experience!

I think we should hold judgment on this one. The Egyptians are very proud of their past and I cannot see this as being as it is reported. Certainly if you wanted to take the wind out of this rebellion you might try instigating internal decent. This would do it. It could fracture the movement if a group can be blameed for it. My guess, its an Mubarak version of a Karl Rove move.

It is interesting that objects in the museum was damaged, but nothing was stolen.
In parallel, some of the looters have been caught carrying ID cards from the security police.
I’d say that the police – which were totally invisible in Cairo today – were put into looting and creating chaos. This would mirror what happened in Tunis, and it is a way to ensure that people stay at home (to prevent looting) rather than to protest in downtown Cairo. It may also be an attempt to connect the democracy-movement to the looters, and thereby giving them a bad name, trying to persuade people not to support them.

This is what you get when you don’t educate the masses!

Agent provocateurs working for Mubarak no doubt…

[...] (Reporting by Yasmine Saleh, Writing by Patrick Werr) [...]

Islamic extremists have repeatedly destroyed artifacts from pre-Islamic times as being from “the age of ignorance” or idolatrous. Remember the giant Buddhist statutes in Afghanistan.

I heard the looters just drained the Nile.

apparently security was too busy killing people in the streets to guard the museum

McLean, Virginia — Idiot.

@ enorceht: “when stopped by the protesters were found to have identification that there were members of the police force.” ??

Cite your sources. I’ve not been able to find this anywhere else. It’s important that we not push false narratives right now–it’s hard enough to keep track of the broad lines of the story without unfounded rumor being stated as fact. Let’s keep this clean.

I don’t see that quote anywhere else besides this thread. Where did *you* find it?

The only reference I can find that resembles this assertion is on Al Jazeera’s liveblog, which states that looters were found to have government issued *weapons*, not IDs. Since police stations were first in line for looting, it’s not reasonable to speculate on the identity of the looters or their connection with the police. Not that it strains credulity to suppose that they are connected with the police mind you, just that it’s premature to make that assertion without better evidence. Show me the reliable source here and I’ll jump on the bus…

The only reference I can find that resembles this assertion is on Al Jazeera’s liveblog, which states that looters were found to have government issued *weapons*, not IDs. Since police stations were first in line for looting, it’s not reasonable to speculate on the identity of the looters or their connection with the police. Not that it strains credulity to suppose that they are connected with the police mind you, just that it’s premature to make that assertion without better evidence. Show me the reliable source here and I’ll jump on the bus…

Sounds like the work of religious fundamentalists.

Sounds like the work of religious fundamentalists.

Sounds like the work of religious fundamentalists.

Here’s a link for more than one story to verify
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/307572

Here’s a link for more than one story to verify
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/307572

Here’s a link for more than one story to verify
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/307572

youre in da nile

youre in da nile

youre in da nile

You will have to dig deep in the thread as this is a live feed but here is one regarding the “looting”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8288167/Egypt-protests-live.html

I will grant you that this is all unconfirmed, but at this moment it is the information available. I have been checking Sailnews and other backdoor approaches for info, but again this is the best I can offer.

Regarding the Egyptian military position there are many sources including:
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978998922
http://www.newser.com/story/110841/egyptian-police-stand-down-army-joins-protest.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=133333835

I hope this clarifies the issue for you.

You will have to dig deep in the thread as this is a live feed but here is one regarding the “looting”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8288167/Egypt-protests-live.html

I will grant you that this is all unconfirmed, but at this moment it is the information available. I have been checking Sailnews and other backdoor approaches for info, but again this is the best I can offer.

Regarding the Egyptian military position there are many sources including:
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978998922
http://www.newser.com/story/110841/egyptian-police-stand-down-army-joins-protest.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=133333835

I hope this clarifies the issue for you.

You will have to dig deep in the thread as this is a live feed but here is one regarding the “looting”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8288167/Egypt-protests-live.html

I will grant you that this is all unconfirmed, but at this moment it is the information available. I have been checking Sailnews and other backdoor approaches for info, but again this is the best I can offer.

Regarding the Egyptian military position there are many sources including:
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978998922
http://www.newser.com/story/110841/egyptian-police-stand-down-army-joins-protest.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=133333835

I hope this clarifies the issue for you.

Yeah right! Next they’ll describe them as terrorists.

CNN just reported that the allegations of destroyed mummies is not true. We shall see. This reminds me of the elite units that went in to Iraq and stole vast ancient treasures…the people would not do this and “fundamentalists” would have no interest in this. Only those who would financially gain would steal such property of history. It is called the black market. Look it up.

http://allisonkilkenny.com/2011/01/about-those-looters/
“About those looters”

Yeah, I’d tend to think that 99.9% of the demonstrators/rioters would actually feel very protective toward the antiquities in the Egyptian Museum. Some of your more hard-core fundamentalists, though, should they come into power, might disparage them as “pagan” and advocate destroying them the way the Taliban dynamited the Buddhas of Bamyan.

Unfortunately, some bad things are coming out of Egypt today including reports of looting and more deaths. I was watching Al Jazeera in Arabic with an Egyptian friend this afternoon and the reports were verified. The good thing is that the citizens are forming committees to protect their neighborhoods and certain buildings. It’s excellent that they are policing themselves.

This is the latest from The Guardian:

11.24pm:CloseLink to this update: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/29/egypt-protests-government-live-blog?showallcomments=true#end-of-comments#block-68 AFP says the death toll from five days of protests has reached 102.

10.58pm:CloseLink to this update: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/29/egypt-protests-government-live-blog?showallcomments=true#end-of-comments#block-67 AP and Al Jazeera report that 19 private jets carrying families of wealthy businessmen have left Cairo for Dubai.

Ha ha! They also stole the sphinxes. Last time they were seen, they’re were dangling from the back of a pick up truck. Or was it a camel?

Quite the contrary. The people have set up committees and are policing themselves, stopping looters, protecting neighborhoods and public buildings. Could you see the same thing happening in the US? I seriously doubt it.

Yes. They’ve also formed committees to protect their neighborhoods and public buildings which says a lot about them and their ability to police themselves

The Teabaggers don’t have the balls to rebel

Mossad, perhaps?

I spent the afternoon demonstrating with the Egyptian community, they assure me that their military are not like their police. They trust and like the military because they are there to defend not oppress them but dislike the cops very much. Unlike in the US, they’re not paid killers.

the info i posted was from live coverage on al jazeera, thanks for the help and the links.

when i posted it didn’t realize there would be so many people needing confirmation on the “facts” from the middle of a revolution taking place with all internet and cell phone connections shut down, what can i say but thanks again

Yes, they were. And if you had watched Al Jazeera, you would have seen the crowds greeting them with flowers and hugs. Soldiers were interviewed and they said that they would never turn against the people, particularly, after the reception they had received. In fact, you can see people on top of the tanks, along with the soldiers, holding banners and flags. Nobody has to tell you anything, you can see it.

it was from al jazeera live coverage. if you want some links “Texas_Independent_Texas_Proud” posted some in response to “Where goeth sanity?”

I’d be careful with The Telegraph. The most rabid reich wing element hangs out at that threat. They’re full of conspiracy, misinformation and hatred. The Telegraph even put out an article claiming that the US had been fomenting the upraise for about 3 years now. They’re no better than FAUX News and draw from the same pool of commenters.

I liked that quote:

“The government wants people to believe that this is an uprising of convicts, which is not the case. The government is the one that is a criminal,” Khalil Fathy, a local journalist covering the events closely, said.

So they now can present their Tanks as good guys “To protect and to serve”

earlier live coverage on al jazeera agrees with you

Didn’t the United States military allow the looting and trashing of the museums in Iraq as well? Didn’t some accounts of that spectacle later claim that the US military encouraged such activities by their inaction? I think that the longer this goes on the more this sounds like a similar operation. I think I am more and more convinced that it is not that the military is siding with the protesters I think the US has already picked a successor to Mubarak in ElBaradei and they are going to continue encouraging this kind of anarchic activity until Mubarak steps down. At least, that is what it looks like to me.

No, sounds like black-market looters looking to make a buck.

Johnny, I heard today that the Mubarak regime has released prisoners and directed them to do the looting, violent crimes and cause general havoc in the crowds today in order to extend their case towards military crackdown. Any verification? I’ve been watching Al Jazeera English and they are speaking about it……

I think you mean internal “dissent”. That is a most beautiful avatar!

Interesting that you say that, I just picked that same tidbit from a poster over at The Guardian:

*sardoniciam – 29 January 2011 9:57PM

Just received very disturbing news from a retired policeman in Egypt:

The looting, stealing and raping of women is the work of Omana Shurta (unqualified police who are usually used to do small rounds), they have been given orders by Amn Eldowla (egyptian security forces) to burn down the police stations, release the prisoners (who now have no records) onto the public to exhaust them all night guarding their belongings, so they’re too tired in the morning to protest. They were allowed to raid the police stations and take all weapons and were given permission to use freely

My Egyptian friend like all Egyptians at the moment, is spending the night in the street guarding his house and family.

It is a war zone out there. They need help!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/29/egypt-protests-government-live-blog?showallcomments=true#end-of-comments

Highly unlikely the Government added 1000 criminals to the rioting. Rape gangs were operating on the streets of Cairo prior to the protests. The general lawlessness just allows them to operate without fear. The Government could just put out a bunch of stories about people doing things illegal it really wouldn’t need anyone actually doing it.

And you know this for a fact, how again?

Johnny WB,
Many thanks for the heads up about the Telegraph, I’d hate to be associated with anything that resembles FAUX News. I have not read much of their material so I was not aware.

Yesterday reports out of Cairo said that protestors were welcoming to the army, not the police but to the army and vids of the protestors interacting with the army seemed to give credence to that statement. It seems that since protesters were already formed up at the museum to protect it (vids on that also) that dispatching a couple of dozen army troops to assist them would be welcomed by all parties. If the government was sincere about reform and building a new consensus then enlisting the protesters to assist in the security of museums, hospitals etc. with joint army and citizen participation would be a great way to start. It is certainly worth a try.

I’ve never been even close to a situation that involved conflict beyond a couple of people getting in each others face and a few shoving match’s that needed to be diffused but I have been in situations where a very small, almost insignificant, gesture of goodwill and cooperation has been the tool to open a wider dialogue and limit potential damage. Grasping at straws is not foolish if straws are all you have available. If nothing but one artifact is saved surely the effort would be worth it.

They’re doing the monster mash.

I have the feeling that the people are going to end up with a fundamentalist regime instead of freedom.

What i find quite strange is that Al Jazeera’s cameras were in the museum and captured pictures of some broken glass and a statue lying on the ground. Very strange, NO pictures of “destroyed mummies”… IF there is any fact to this story, I’m SURE they have video. Likely to go the route of the pentagon videos on 9/11

I think that is getting said to get national condemnation of what is happening. And then the US and the rest of the world will support Mubarak.

“these things happen in a democracy’ Donald Rumsfeld

With the police nowhere to be found you can rest assured they found something to keep themselves occupied

In the story that is above this thread!

I”m glad this story broke–I had heard they were keeping it under wraps.

This is from another story on this very site about the leaked Wikileaks state department documents:

“For the last three years, the US government secretly provided aid to the leaders behind this week’s social uprising in Egypt aimed to topple the government of President Hosni Mubarak, according to a leaked diplomatic cable.

One of the young Egyptian leaders who attended a summit for activists in New York with the help of the US embassy in Cairo was detained when he returned to Egypt, the memo released by Wikileaks said.”

Of course, there is always at least one person who wants to blame everything on the JUUUUUUS!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/secretly-backed-egyptian-protest-leaders

Just like the museum in Iraq the loss will be a global loss should the museum be further looted.

I understand people protesting conditions under which they are forced live with a dictator in office. If you back an animal in a corner, and threaten it with bodily harm, the animal might succumb to its fate, or it will fight to survive. Citizens in Cairo have decided to come out of the corner, and are willing to fight or die for basic human rights such a right to work, to own a business, get an education, pursue happiness in whatever limited way is available to them.

It’s natural that people tire of being deprived. When slaves got tired of their bondage in a free country, many of them initiated insurrections against their “masters.” These slaves were not organized revolutionaries. They pulled together some frustrated slaves who knew that something was wrong with the horrible conditions they were forced to accept.

Riots in major cities in this country were the results of living conditions and being deprived of basic right guaranteed them in the Constitution of the United States. There are those who argue that blacks have always had the right to achieve and advance like white Americans. Sounds good, but blatantly untrue. Proof is the historical Jim Crow laws. If blacks were on equal footing as whites, there wouldn’t have been a need for affirmative action. If every one were equal in opportunity, desegregation would have been a mute issue. History is replete with stories of people deprived of simple human rights.

Whereas I am in agreement with people staging purposeful marches and protests, positive intent oftentimes takes an ugly turn when mob-rule mentality steps into the fray. As a result, like protests and riots in this country, people destroyed their own neighborhoods. Once looting starts it quickly looms out of control. It is irrational to destroy historical artifacts and museums, as was the case in Iraq. When these pieces of history are destroyed out of anger, many of them cannot be replaced. The two mummies that were destroyed cannot be replaced. Egypt has a connection to early history that the whole world enjoys.

Demonstrators and protesters hurt themselves when they lose focus on the real reasons for demonstrating and protesting. Looting and property destruction should never become a part of the equation.

Looters or Mossad?

I wouldn’t doubt it, never put anything past a dictatorship.

Deliberate destruction of priceless antiquities is simply wrong. They are the heritage of all Egyptians, young, old, rich or poor. During the Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King verdict when much of south LaBrea Avenue was burning, no one attacked the County Museum in Exposition Park. Emistruth understands the horrors of poverty in Egypt but deplores wanton destruction and violence.

The equivalent of kicking over and breaking tombstones in our nation’s cemetaries. A pointless act that only accomplishes bringing disgrace to those involved.

Of course. It couldn’t possibly have been the Americans. ;-)

Totaly agree.

How is it that if american soldier brings home a statue from Iraq – no problem, but when people take what actually belongs to them it’s wrong?

They are “stealing” their own history, it belongs to them – if it is them who is doing the looting at all!

Funny.

You idiots really do have Mossad on the brain, don’t you? Don’t you have a neo-Nazi meeting to go to or something?

This is why repatriating the holdings of Western museums to their “rightful” owners is such a stupid idea.

You have obviously forgotten that we even have our Greek heritage because authors like Aristotle and Plato and Ptolemy were preserved at Baghdad during the Middle Ages.

“Very much exaggerated.” –Al Jazeera.

I normally oppose mass repatriation of antiquities except in cases of modern looting or extraordinary national patrimony as is the case with the Elgin marbles, chiseled off the frieze at the Parthenon from 1801 to 1812.

Is there a difference between the two? :)

Is there a difference between the two? :)

Hillary Clinton is unashamedly kissing Mubarak’s ass on Al Jazeera even as we speak.

Hillary Clinton is unashamedly kissing Mubarak’s ass on Al Jazeera even as we speak.

You didn’t know that mummy powder is a hot item on the Chinese herbal market?

You didn’t know that mummy powder is a hot item on the Chinese herbal market?

Isn’t that the motto of the LAPD? Now there’s a criminal organization.

Isn’t that the motto of the LAPD? Now there’s a criminal organization.

Interview on Al Jazeera of a Palestinian held in an Egyptian prison. Turns out many of these escaped “criminals” are Palestinian refugees who are now returning to Gaza. Score one for the Mubarak propaganda machine.

Interview on Al Jazeera of a Palestinian held in an Egyptian prison. Turns out many of these escaped “criminals” are Palestinian refugees who are now returning to Gaza. Score one for the Mubarak propaganda machine.

Al Jazeera: Pictures of Molotov cocktails, people with pistols. No police.

Al Jazeera: Pictures of Molotov cocktails, people with pistols. No police.

You often find yourself bringing home oranges when your wife asked for apples?

You often find yourself bringing home oranges when your wife asked for apples?

Yep. I found out the hard way, by being mobbed on controversial subjects. It’s best if you stick to The Guardian even though the Brits criticize them as much as we do our very own corporate media. If you watch Al Jazeera, you can see the perfect example of how state-controlled media operates. Sickening and frightening.

Yep. I found out the hard way, by being mobbed on controversial subjects. It’s best if you stick to The Guardian even though the Brits criticize them as much as we do our very own corporate media. If you watch Al Jazeera, you can see the perfect example of how state-controlled media operates. Sickening and frightening.

Nope. She knows better than to go pick them from the orchard herself

Nope. She knows better than to go pick them from the orchard herself

I find it rather hilarious that some folks find the effusions of the U.S. State Department suddenly unassailable when transmitted to the world by Wikileaks. The fact is that in situations like this we find the various sides taking advantage of any available aid no matter how suspect. The old Arab canard of “my enemy’s enemy is my friend” applies here.

I find it rather hilarious that some folks find the effusions of the U.S. State Department suddenly unassailable when transmitted to the world by Wikileaks. The fact is that in situations like this we find the various sides taking advantage of any available aid no matter how suspect. The old Arab canard of “my enemy’s enemy is my friend” applies here.

“On the streets, Egypt’s military defend the people”

http://warincontext.org/2011/01/29/on-the-streets-egyptian-military-defend-the-people/

“…When armored personnel carriers filled with soldiers began making their way into the heart of Cairo and other cities in Egypt on Friday January 28th, they were greeted with receptivity by protestors, who saw in the much-respected military a potential ally in their uprising against the regime. No doubt, the recent experience in Tunisia, where the military stepped in resoundingly on the side of the demonstrations and hastened the fall of the repressive regime of President Ben Ali, was fresh in their mind. The Tunisian military had intervened against the police forces, burnishing their image as popular heroes who shared the patriotic concerns of the brave Tunisians who defied the regime. The scenes that unfolded in Egypt made clear that the protestors there hoped to force a similar split between the security forces, run by the Ministry of the Interior, and the military. …”

“On the streets, Egypt’s military defend the people”

http://warincontext.org/2011/01/29/on-the-streets-egyptian-military-defend-the-people/

“…When armored personnel carriers filled with soldiers began making their way into the heart of Cairo and other cities in Egypt on Friday January 28th, they were greeted with receptivity by protestors, who saw in the much-respected military a potential ally in their uprising against the regime. No doubt, the recent experience in Tunisia, where the military stepped in resoundingly on the side of the demonstrations and hastened the fall of the repressive regime of President Ben Ali, was fresh in their mind. The Tunisian military had intervened against the police forces, burnishing their image as popular heroes who shared the patriotic concerns of the brave Tunisians who defied the regime. The scenes that unfolded in Egypt made clear that the protestors there hoped to force a similar split between the security forces, run by the Ministry of the Interior, and the military. …”

Mubarak government worker said this? I’ll believe it when I see it. Any pictures? Which mummies were destroyed? There arent that many in the world, each one is specifically identified, mind telling us which one? What exactly were done to them? Sounds like the same propaganda our government threw at black refugees in New Orleans during Katrina, calling them looting for taking food and water out of abandoned stores and shooting people becasue they looked like they might loot!

Mubarak government worker said this? I’ll believe it when I see it. Any pictures? Which mummies were destroyed? There arent that many in the world, each one is specifically identified, mind telling us which one? What exactly were done to them? Sounds like the same propaganda our government threw at black refugees in New Orleans during Katrina, calling them looting for taking food and water out of abandoned stores and shooting people becasue they looked like they might loot!

The looting and destruction served those that did this well. Now the whole world can say, “Those Egyptian demonstrators are bad”. This is the same ploy as the demonstrations at WTO and IMF meetings. It only takes 5 guys who want to give the cameras the “Right” message to cancel out the thousands that show up to protest peacefully. Come on People these demonstrations have a foundation in Human Rights, do not so easily accept the distraction. Hell, there were Christians protecting Moslems from the Police during Friday’s Prayer. That is a story that we will never see on the US Corporation TV

Turns out that this is a false flag operation. It is the security forces that are doing this.

Look, I’ll admit I don’t like Zahi Hawass, but first Hawass is responsible for the looting to the museum, and if he were to contend that he didn’t have security in the museum, I would find that laughable, but regardless, he’s the head of the Antiquities Department and thus he’s ultimately responsible for the safety of the artifacts. I also have a hard time believing that this looting was not either intentional or was an inside job. It’s the freakin’ Cairo Museum of Egyptian Antiquities. I would think there would be cameras, yes?

Amazing. Tut artifacts toured the world with nary a hitch. They had to go back to Egypt to be violated.

Are you really that gross?

From The Guardian:

7.30pm:CloseLink to this update: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/30/egypt-protests-live-updates#block-60 Update from an official at the celebrated Egyptian Museum in the centre of Cairo reports that some damage has been done by intruders who broke into the Tutankhamun galleries. He says:

Thank God they opened only one case! The criminals found a statue of the king on a panther, broke it, and threw it on the floor. I am very thankful that all of the antiquities that were damaged in the museum can be restored, and the tourist police caught all of the criminals that broke into it. On Saturday, the army secured the museum again and guarded it from all sides.

What is really beautiful is that not all Egyptians were involved in the looting of the museum. A very small number of people tried to break, steal and rob. The Egyptian people are calling for freedom, not destruction. When I left the museum on Saturday, I was met outside by many Egyptians, who asked if the museum was safe and what they could do to help. The people were happy to see an Egyptian official leave his home and come to Tahrir Square without fear; they loved that I came to the museum.

And look who’s doing the looting:

Police and government officials have pulled out so there are no government services – the governor has been gone since Tuesday so there’s a power vacuum. People formed impromptu block committees to provide local security, armed (they say) with only sticks and kitchen knives.The locals say the only people with weapons are police who’ve taken off their uniforms and are responsible for most of the looting and crime.

Police and government officials have pulled out so there are no government services – the governor has been gone since Tuesday so there’s a power vacuum. People formed impromptu block committees to provide local security, armed (they say) with only sticks and kitchen knives. The locals say the only people with weapons are police who’ve taken off their uniforms and are responsible for most of the looting and crime.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/30/egypt-protests-live-updates?showallcomments=true#end-of-comments

People all over the world should be taking notice of the fact that agent savoteurs seem to be the latest police technique everywhere.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/30/egypt-protests-live-updates

The only thing is that these acts were perpetrated by policemen in plains clothes. Need I explain why?

Their own police. But you know who they’re picking up that little trick from. They’re all pulling it: UK, Canada, US, Egypt. It seems to be the latest trick of the global elite.

True. Because Mossad is so innocent and holy. And if you ask Mossad or the Isareli government, they’ll tell you that Mossad is the most moral assassin force in the world. They only murder Palestinian leaders and Iranian scientists

If you read the reports, you will see what really happened. The cat’s out of the bag:

The atmosphere in Suez is tense, the big complaint is the absence of security. A lot of rubble in the streets from stone-throwing, street battles etc. The army is out in force, tanks are stationed on the streets and the area around the main government buildings is completely blocked off. A major police station that on Thursday was surrounded by security and said to be holding many detainees picked up at protests was torched and is now gutted.

Police and government officials have pulled out so there are no government services – the governor has been gone since Tuesday so there’s a power vacuum. People formed impromptu block committees to provide local security, armed (they say) with only sticks and kitchen knives. The locals say the only people with weapons are police who’ve taken off their uniforms and are responsible for most of the looting and crime.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/30/egypt-protests-live-updates

On a different article,, they relate how the people formed a human curtain to prevent the looting of the museum. This truly is remarkable. The dark forces failed misserably.

You know, the cat’s out of the bad. The Egyptians caught the perpetrators and they were all carrying government IDs, they were cops in plain clothes, they were all arrested last night. The people formed a human shield to protect the museum and other sites of value to them. Not only did they show their true face but they made the Egyptians shine in the process. Remarkable!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/30/egypt-protests-live-updates

What this indicates to me is that the military have been bought off with and from the same mound of money that helped people the original demonstrations. Once the military was paid to refrain and they agreed to do so, the path was cleared for a “popular uprising” that will produce a government that is satisfactory to the American government. Although there appears to be some fear in American diplomatic circles given the recent statements by Sec of State Clinton that maybe this “democracy” thing could get out of control and not produce a government acceptable to and accepting of American hegemony!

In which case, Clinton seemed to imply, all bets were off.

This has a quote from an anonymous person stating that one statue was broken….