Koch brothers are “dirty money” but then so is Soros. The left totally ignores Soros and his Kochian behavior just like they ignore Obama and his Bush-like policies.

I have listened to Soros and he makes a lot of sense. What do you disagree with?

bagger

Facts might help your claim at least seem less lame than it is. So, give it a try… exactly how is Soros’ money dirty just like that of the Koch Brothers?

They should have dropped something like the names of people who have suffered directly or indirectly at their greed and despicable behavior.

Wow! Those are the biggest gonads I have ever seen hanging from the bottom of that “blmp!” Come on people, send donations to green Peace.

I will join the other two posters: Evidence of what you say against Soros, please.

Very cool Blimp, very cool method of protest, Good Work GreenPeace!

See, I would hope for a Led Zeppelin 1 type catastrophe so we would be rid of them and their guests once and for all.

next koch meeting will have a few unmanned stealth aircraft to take out those pesky blimps

The left doesn’t ignore the continuation of the neocon madness by Obama. After all he said repeatedly he would escalate the the so-called “good fight” in Afghanistan during his campaign. He talked me right out of voting for him with that alone.

For every Soros there are 8-10 far right billionaires pumping money to the right wingnut group of clowns.

You’re full of shit. If you think lefties don’t criticize Obama, you haven’t been on any lefty web sites in the past 2 years. Or you’re being paid by the Koch brothers.

Yes, lefties are very critical of Obama on Raw Story every single day, he knows.

Nice work by Greenpeace. The Koch brothers have gotten away with undermining the good of the nation for too long without consequences. It’s time they were made very, very uncomfortable by the people whose lives they’re fouling.

You want them to carry a list of everyone who’s suffered under the Koch Bros? We’re gonna need a bigger blimp.

If someone on the crew just took a huge smelly dump on these assholes that would satisfy me.

Need to fly that bird over the US capitol dome..oh, wait…can’t federal problems would ensue over the airspace. Bummer.

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These environment groups are idiots. If they were really smart they’d have flown unmanned drones to listen to their conversations and take pictures to give to the media.

They had the ability to fly a blimp, but they didn’t think about actually listening into the meetings or finding out what was actually being discussed?

Ok you are a terrorist.

They’re smart enough to ignore idiots like you.

how the hell do you expect greenpeace to attend those meetings? you have nothing positive to say?

Well said!!! Thanks for improving my comment. I didn’t go deep enough.

I’ll never forget Alex Jones bullhorning the Bilderberger Bunch to such a degree that they can no longer meet in secret and are now known by the public as being real, not a figment of someones imagination. Maybe this will do the same for the Koch Bro.

No, the first step to solving a problem is recognizing it and in this case–causing others to recognize it as well. These men are a cancer to the planet and it’s long past time their activities were recognized for what they are–destructive and profit driven despite the deaths they cause. Soon entire portions of this world will be underwater because they have to make controversy over Global Warming, where none should exits. Storms are getting worse and worse, the world’s oil supply depletes further, our air gets more polluted and they fight attempts at alternative energy. Our budgets get deeper in the whole and they fight for more tax cuts for themselves, while people die because states can’t afford to take care of those who should be taken care of. They will never spend a fraction of what they have and can’t take it with them–but like the misers they are, they hoard wealth and power.

Great blimp message…but how does it change anything? Everyone knows it’s dirty money…but they still take it, fight for legislation in their favor, and the rest of Americans be damned.

If we had a non corporate controlled press in this country, they would be afflicted and the afflicted would get comfort from them. But alas, that press virtue went out the window about 30 years ago.

What, you want Greenpeace to post the phone book?

Oh please. Stop watching Fox for a minute or two. Maybe you’ll enjoy thinking on your own for a change.

The Koch brothers are anti-American scum! They want to destroy this beautiful nation for a buck!

Unlike Soros, the Koch brothers don’t make sense. You really can’t make a rational argument about how profit that causes death, is a good thing. Of course, there’s that whole Right Wing thing that makes a sacrament of how business should be left alone to do as it wishes–regardless of the damage it causes. The short of this is that the Koch brothers privatize profit and socialize cost. Soros is about just the reverse.

I agree with everything you say here but the evil Koch Brothers are nothing more than unbridled capitalists and what they are proposing is nothing more than more unbridled capitalism. Now anyone who doesn’t already realize that unbridled capitalism is as you so eloquently write here “a cancer to the planet and it’s…activities were recognized for what they are–destructive and profit driven despite the deaths they cause.” And that “[s}oon entire portions of this world will be underwater [aic] because they have to make controversy over Global Warming, where none should exit” is probably not going to suddenly get it awaked to the destructive of global capitalism because Greenpeace flew a blimp with “Koch Brothers Dirty Money” emblazoned on its side. But that’s just my opinion.

The fact that Republicans Teaparty political machine some if not much of which was financed by these two master capitalists billionaires just won something like 79 House races might be some sort of evidence for exactly what kind of inertia we are currently dealing with in the United States. But don’t let that intrude on your dream of a sudden anti-capitalist or even a long slow anti-capitalist awakening, I’m sure every little bit helps.

Just like the rest of the ruling elite. They are blinded by their own greed and could care less how their greed effects this country. I would tell the scum to be ashamed but they have no shame.

If It Ain’t TOXIC it Ain’t FIT for HUMAN CONSUMPTION !

The Koch brothers are Russian … Murdoch is Australian … global elite manipulating our country for their own profits.

THIS IS WHAT CAPITALISM IS!!!! MEOW!

WHAT ABOUT THE BUSH BOYS?

You obviously are not allowing your self to be brainwashed properly by FOX , Beck and BillO. Soros is Satan him self and helped the jews into the ovens in germany as a young boy. Get with the program, and watch more fox news…watch more fox news,…watch more fox news…watch more fox news…Oh no!! they almost got me…must turn the channel…must turn the channel…

Riot Police Guard Against Anti-Billionaire Protesters in Rancho Mirage. John Amato is on the scene
http://crooksandliars.com/

Soros gives money to organizations and causes that represent hundreds of millions of people. The Koch bros. represent the top 2%.

Check out the Crooks and Liars piece and read more about phil anschutz billionaire republican….

The Koch brothers are American. Their father, Fred, was born in 1900 in Texas, so the family has been here for more than a century. Not sure where you got that they are Russian.

They sure showed them.

The little blimp event isn’t going to wake up the masses to a sudden anti-capitalist revolt, but it can help to get under the skin of the perps a bit, awakening them at least to the fact that someone is taking account of their plunder of the planet.

Everyone, including the Koch brothers, eventually gets held accountable.

Greenpeace should leave the blimp work to Bruce Dern….

Closer to 40 years, to be more exact. It started the moment JFK took the hit from the CIA’s gang of Cuban sharpshooters, and the CIA manipulated the press to say what the CIA wanted it to say.

The CIA has been in control of the American media since that fateful day.

The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media.
– William Colby, former CIA director

Interesting theory. I suggest you read the history of John D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil. Stop when you get to the part where he was “eventually…held accountable” and get back to me!

As a followup, Greenpeace or other organizations should post the list of scheduled appearences of the Koch brothers, so the pigs can be called out on their planet plundering at every turn.

As a followup, Greenpeace or other organizations should post the list of scheduled appearences of the Koch brothers, so the pigs can be called out on their planet plundering at every turn.

The Koch brothers’ father, Fred Koch, is the son of a Dutch immigrant. He is also one of the founding members of the John Birch Society.

The Koch brothers’ father, Fred Koch, is the son of a Dutch immigrant. He is also one of the founding members of the John Birch Society.

Greenpeace blimp buzzes Koch brothers' strategy meeting | Raw Story…

Here at World Spinner we are debating the same thing……

Aren’t the bush’s part of the ruling elite? Money buys an awful lot of power and influence. Young men and women are dying in an illegal war due to bush and cheney’s greed. Does anyone really think they think about what they did? Or how the soldiers and their families have suffered? They can’t see past their greed or clutter their beautiful minds with thoughts of the war and suffering. They are bastards.

Aren’t the bush’s part of the ruling elite? Money buys an awful lot of power and influence. Young men and women are dying in an illegal war due to bush and cheney’s greed. Does anyone really think they think about what they did? Or how the soldiers and their families have suffered? They can’t see past their greed or clutter their beautiful minds with thoughts of the war and suffering. They are bastards.

The koch brothers didn’t work for a living they were born into it. The are the lowest of low. The ruling elite who are so greedy they want it all and don’t even have the capacity to feel for the suffering of others. They need to be brought down to earth and the suffering of others. They are part of the greedy ruling elite.

The koch brothers didn’t work for a living they were born into it. The are the lowest of low. The ruling elite who are so greedy they want it all and don’t even have the capacity to feel for the suffering of others. They need to be brought down to earth and the suffering of others. They are part of the greedy ruling elite.

I call it justice.

I call it justice.

Excellent analogy.

Excellent analogy.

Ahh yes… trickle down.

Ahh yes… trickle down.

Their greed and lust for power has no borders.

Their greed and lust for power has no borders.

And the Koch family is responsible for as much death and environmental destruction as any group of psychopaths on this planet. They make money killing people, only slowly. Their victims die of cancer, and respiratory disease. They die from severe weather, and pollution.

David Koch is the poster child for everything that is wrong with this country, and this planet.

http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com

And the Koch family is responsible for as much death and environmental destruction as any group of psychopaths on this planet. They make money killing people, only slowly. Their victims die of cancer, and respiratory disease. They die from severe weather, and pollution.

David Koch is the poster child for everything that is wrong with this country, and this planet.

http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com

More like a hundred Kochs to every Soros Neo. I think George Soros is possibly trying to atone for past “actions” as anyone with a soul may do.

More like a hundred Kochs to every Soros Neo. I think George Soros is possibly trying to atone for past “actions” as anyone with a soul may do.

Fred Koch made his fortune setting up oil refineries for Joseph Stalin in the 1930′s.

Fred Koch made his fortune setting up oil refineries for Joseph Stalin in the 1930′s.

Now that’s funny…

Now that’s funny…

Wow izzat true? Fascinating. You don’t have a link or two habdy do’ya? Thanks.

Wow izzat true? Fascinating. You don’t have a link or two habdy do’ya? Thanks.

Not to argue, I’m sure I’m with you on about most thing we would discuss, but who ever thought Bilderbergers WERE NOT real?
Sorry but although I agree with some, maybe even much of what Alex says, he is such a self promoting pud that I think he does more harm than good.

Not to argue, I’m sure I’m with you on about most thing we would discuss, but who ever thought Bilderbergers WERE NOT real?
Sorry but although I agree with some, maybe even much of what Alex says, he is such a self promoting pud that I think he does more harm than good.

Maybe they should have ‘droned’ them out. It sure works for those weddings and the like in Pakistan.

Maybe they should have ‘droned’ them out. It sure works for those weddings and the like in Pakistan.

Facts?…FACTS?…we doan’need no stinking facts.

Facts?…FACTS?…we doan’need no stinking facts.

I will preface this comment with the declaration that the Koch brothers just suck, plain and simply.

Having said that, Soros, a Wall Street multi-billionaire, has plenty of problems for anyone with a liberal viewpoint to critique. For instance, Soros supports REDD, Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation, a Carbon Trading Markets scheme with private land acquisitions approach to supposedly help “slow” climate change.

It has been readily determined that this scheme will provide for land acquisitions that could see the displacement of millions of indigenous peoples around the globe for carbon trading credits offsets purposes, let alone the minerals/mining extractions that will be harvested from this overt wall street worldwide commodities-rich land grab schemes.

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/9/is_redd_the_new_green_injustices

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/soros64/English

If you care about protecting the environment, if you care about global warming, or if you care about protecting indigenous people’s civil rights to exist on their land, REDD is an affront to your morals and principles on these matters.

BTW–Other proposals were offered at the U.N. Climate Change Conference in Cancún last year when REDD was introduced, of which none of the wall-streeters attending allowed to “come to the floor,” silencing and barring a host of environmental groups from the discussion table, including Soros.

I will preface this comment with the declaration that the Koch brothers just suck, plain and simply.

Having said that, Soros, a Wall Street multi-billionaire, has plenty of problems for anyone with a liberal viewpoint to critique. For instance, Soros supports REDD, Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation, a Carbon Trading Markets scheme with private land acquisitions approach to supposedly help “slow” climate change.

It has been readily determined that this scheme will provide for land acquisitions that could see the displacement of millions of indigenous peoples around the globe for carbon trading credits offsets purposes, let alone the minerals/mining extractions that will be harvested from this overt wall street worldwide commodities-rich land grab schemes.

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/9/is_redd_the_new_green_injustices

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/soros64/English

If you care about protecting the environment, if you care about global warming, or if you care about protecting indigenous people’s civil rights to exist on their land, REDD is an affront to your morals and principles on these matters.

BTW–Other proposals were offered at the U.N. Climate Change Conference in Cancún last year when REDD was introduced, of which none of the wall-streeters attending allowed to “come to the floor,” silencing and barring a host of environmental groups from the discussion table, including Soros.

I agree with you 100%, but as this strategy meeting with many other billionaires attests, they’re not the only ones who are destroying our nation–and the world at large. If we want to see change for the better, we need to expose and then go after all of the plutocrats en masse. What greenpeace is doing is just the beginning–we need to give the koch brothers and their friends no peace, such as protests against them and just flat out hound those bastards at every opportunity to make their lives as miserable as possible. Let them know we’re on to them.

I agree with you 100%, but as this strategy meeting with many other billionaires attests, they’re not the only ones who are destroying our nation–and the world at large. If we want to see change for the better, we need to expose and then go after all of the plutocrats en masse. What greenpeace is doing is just the beginning–we need to give the koch brothers and their friends no peace, such as protests against them and just flat out hound those bastards at every opportunity to make their lives as miserable as possible. Let them know we’re on to them.

Whoever thought the bilderbergers were not real? Most people. It was to be one of those crazy conspiracies until Alexses bullhorne adventures got into the papers and then finaly the T.V.cameras. I agree the guy makes his living by scaring people but this was his one positive contribution.

Whoever thought the bilderbergers were not real? Most people. It was to be one of those crazy conspiracies until Alexses bullhorne adventures got into the papers and then finaly the T.V.cameras. I agree the guy makes his living by scaring people but this was his one positive contribution.

It’s high time to start sending the spying and surveillance back on the authority figures and their bankrollers. Let’ see how they like it. Hey…we have to do it in the name of national security since it is they who are ruining this country.

It’s high time to start sending the spying and surveillance back on the authority figures and their bankrollers. Let’ see how they like it. Hey…we have to do it in the name of national security since it is they who are ruining this country.

Giddy-up!!!!!

The Koch brothers were instrumental in the founding of the Tea Party, manipulating behind the scenes.

A Reporter at Large
Covert Operations
The billionaire brothers who are waging a war against Obama.
by Jane Mayer August 30, 2010

David H. Koch in 1996. He and his brother Charles are lifelong libertarians and have quietly given more than a hundred million dollars to right-wing causes.

On May 17th, a black-tie audience at the Metropolitan Opera House applauded as a tall, jovial-looking billionaire took the stage. It was the seventieth annual spring gala of American Ballet Theatre, and David H. Koch was being celebrated for his generosity as a member of the board of trustees; he had recently donated $2.5 million toward the company’s upcoming season, and had given many millions before that. Koch received an award while flanked by two of the gala’s co-chairs, Blaine Trump, in a peach-colored gown, and Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, in emerald green. Kennedy’s mother, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, had been a patron of the ballet and, coincidentally, the previous owner of a Fifth Avenue apartment that Koch had bought, in 1995, and then sold, eleven years later, for thirty-two million dollars, having found it too small.

The gala marked the social ascent of Koch, who, at the age of seventy, has become one of the city’s most prominent philanthropists. In 2008, he donated a hundred million dollars to modernize Lincoln Center’s New York State Theatre building, which now bears his name. He has given twenty million to the American Museum of Natural History, whose dinosaur wing is named for him. This spring, after noticing the decrepit state of the fountains outside the Metropolitan Museum of Art, Koch pledged at least ten million dollars for their renovation. He is a trustee of the museum, perhaps the most coveted social prize in the city, and serves on the board of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, where, after he donated more than forty million dollars, an endowed chair and a research center were named for him.

One dignitary was conspicuously absent from the gala: the event’s third honorary co-chair, Michelle Obama. Her office said that a scheduling conflict had prevented her from attending. Yet had the First Lady shared the stage with Koch it might have created an awkward tableau. In Washington, Koch is best known as part of a family that has repeatedly funded stealth attacks on the federal government, and on the Obama Administration in particular.

With his brother Charles, who is seventy-four, David Koch owns virtually all of Koch Industries, a conglomerate, headquartered in Wichita, Kansas, whose annual revenues are estimated to be a hundred billion dollars. The company has grown spectacularly since their father, Fred, died, in 1967, and the brothers took charge. The Kochs operate oil refineries in Alaska, Texas, and Minnesota, and control some four thousand miles of pipeline. Koch Industries owns Brawny paper towels, Dixie cups, Georgia-Pacific lumber, Stainmaster carpet, and Lycra, among other products. Forbes ranks it as the second-largest private company in the country, after Cargill, and its consistent profitability has made David and Charles Koch—who, years ago, bought out two other brothers—among the richest men in America. Their combined fortune of thirty-five billion dollars is exceeded only by those of Bill Gates and Warren Buffett.

Read more here,

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=1

Funny that we on the left are still at “the first step” of solving this problem while the Koch Brothers and their like-minded compatriots are solidifying their stranglehold on the American political system through a crooked Supreme Court and a Congress and Executive Branch that have already been bought and paid for. And a bunch of loonie right wing radicals hell bent on smashing “the gov’mint” who they are also bankrolling. That is where the right in this country is at–I don’t know what step that is–but I doubt it is the first!

Meanwhile the left is still using the same guerrilla theater tactics that they used in the 60s and since then the corporate hold has only grown stronger. So now they control everything and we are still trying to teach people that something is wrong with stunts like this, movies by Michael Moore, and corporate punking ala the Yes Men.

Nothing demonstrates the sad state of affairs of the left in this country than this story. While the corporate right and the rich have consolidated their hold on power, the left in this country is still as you note at “the first step.” And 15 people either can’t see or won’t see or are too far in denial to see the devastating irony of that!

Glenn Beck was the keynote speaker at this meeting. Eric Cantor was one of the ‘honored’ guests.

A blimp is NOT the news here. The protest in Rancho Mirage is the story. THAT should be what is reported across the nation.

The billionaires’ agenda is to take down Obama. The Teatards want to do the same thing, but they’ve been totally and completely duped by the billionaires to take down Obama for the exact opposite reasons why the billionaires want to do so. The billionaires want to take down Obama because they’re afraid their billions are at risk due to taxes. The ignorant Teatards believe they’re being taxed instead.

Unless those Teatards are making over $250,000 per year, their taxes went DOWN IN 2010. I know that for a fact. I also know for a fact that 99% of those Teatards are making far below $100,000. I know some of them. They shop at Walmart, for god’s sake.

This is absolute proof that the Teatards are nothing more than an ragtag group of ignorant fools funded by the very same billionaires that are using them as their front group.

This is one of the ways Empire fails.

Soros is an underhanded business tycoon, like the Koch brothers. However, Soros doesnt advocate for the destruction of the planet like the Koch bros.

The rich are the only class in America that can effectively practice class warfare because they are the only class with any sense of class consciousness and sense of solidarity within that class consciousness. Far too many of the rest of the people are either in denial about their class membership or struggling to be rich.

And most of them have no idea what class consciousness even means, let alone a sense of how to turn that class consciousness into collective power or how to use that power to engage in class warfare on the same battlefield with the rich. Were too busy being distracted by a whole set of false enemies.

I’d like to say more but I have to go take back my “gov’mint.”

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! Good starting point would be the New York book. Just to get things going.

Let the just wrath of the people be focused on these creatures and the likes of the Mafia thug Scalia until they shrivel up and burn like so many spiders in a flame.

What a shame it could only be a harmless blimp.

One step forward would be to stop using the word “professional” as a mark of approval where people are concerned (as opposed to the quality of work).

Many people who struggle to be “professional” would be better off acknowledging that they are workers. They should take pride in that and seek solidarity with other workers.

Computers and databases are dirt cheap these days. But setting up a database to track reactionary criminals like the scum at this meeting (and, more importantly, the cadres who carry out their dirty work) would require a lot of boots on the ground and a lot of money, even though the work could be done on the basis of legitimately available public information.

Where is the organization to do this? We have WikiLeaks–could we have a WikiScum?

Agree! But it’s not only the Kochs who suck–it’s the Kochs’ suckers.

There was a big demonstration. Now if these subhumans faced Egyptian/Tunisian-style throngs wherever they went–that would mean something.

A hundred demonstrators with a blimp: meaningless. A million demonstrators in every city: Egypt.

Agree. Anything that raises consciousness against the ruling class is surely a good thing in this benighted country.

I think you’re right about the problem, but why such pessimism? If there’s really no hope, why say anything? Why speak so eloquently and truthfully about the class system if it can’t be fought? Please note: I am not trying to put you down.

The readership of Rawstory as a whole are dead set against any form of politics that acknowledges the reality of class warfare. They consider such politics dirty and immoral and a betrayal of Gandhi and Martin Luther King, as well as the Floundering Bothers, whom many continue to revere religiously.

“Oh,” they say, “fighting back would make us just like the Republicans. We would be seen as cruel and lacking in compassion.” Many of these readers still hope for substantial progress from Obama and the democrats.

This silly little blimp–as little as it amounts to in the big picture–has at least created a tiny opening in such minds for class consciousness and the awareness of class struggle.

Let’s not extinguish that frail spark before it has had time to start a fire. Egypt and Tunisia, whatever the ultimate fate of those revolutions, at least show us that change is possible.

I think you’re right about the problem, but why such pessimism? If there’s really no hope, why say anything? Why speak so eloquently and truthfully about the class system if it can’t be fought? Please note: I am not trying to put you down.

The readership of Rawstory as a whole are dead set against any form of politics that acknowledges the reality of class warfare. They consider such politics dirty and immoral and a betrayal of Gandhi and Martin Luther King, as well as the Floundering Bothers, whom many continue to revere religiously.

“Oh,” they say, “fighting back would make us just like the Republicans. We would be seen as cruel and lacking in compassion.” Many of these readers still hope for substantial progress from Obama and the democrats.

This silly little blimp–as little as it amounts to in the big picture–has at least created a tiny opening in such minds for class consciousness and the awareness of class struggle.

Let’s not extinguish that frail spark before it has had time to start a fire. Egypt and Tunisia, whatever the ultimate fate of those revolutions, at least show us that change is possible.

Class consciousness. Is that why George II holds hands with an oil sheik?

The upper class rules with knowledge. They understand that if you turn the little guys upon other by magnifying their differences, they leave you alone. Since coming to Raw Story, I have been amazed at the number of political, religious and social factions. Everyone picks a side and dukes it out.

There are no slight disagreements. Rage, denial, hate. Hate, the soul-eater. Aye, there’s the rub, for in this hate, what nightmares may come. I won’t rub your nose in it, but you’ve be conned and you don’t know how. Knowledge.

Who was that republican who united all the repukes but saying, ‘We will vote against everything Obama tries to do.’? He united them with hate. Lowest common denominator.

It’s like two guys start a bar fight and go and watch the brawl from outside. Just mention abortions or gun control and you lot are at each other’s throats. The black and white view of right and wrong, is very strong in the culture, and that comes from the religious history of the country.

America has a lot of sins. It troubles the national conscience. People are scared, stressed and confused. They need to clear their minds, and connect.

Class consciousness. Is that why George II holds hands with an oil sheik?

The upper class rules with knowledge. They understand that if you turn the little guys upon other by magnifying their differences, they leave you alone. Since coming to Raw Story, I have been amazed at the number of political, religious and social factions. Everyone picks a side and dukes it out.

There are no slight disagreements. Rage, denial, hate. Hate, the soul-eater. Aye, there’s the rub, for in this hate, what nightmares may come. I won’t rub your nose in it, but you’ve be conned and you don’t know how. Knowledge.

Who was that republican who united all the repukes but saying, ‘We will vote against everything Obama tries to do.’? He united them with hate. Lowest common denominator.

It’s like two guys start a bar fight and go and watch the brawl from outside. Just mention abortions or gun control and you lot are at each other’s throats. The black and white view of right and wrong, is very strong in the culture, and that comes from the religious history of the country.

America has a lot of sins. It troubles the national conscience. People are scared, stressed and confused. They need to clear their minds, and connect.

you’re right these guys probably saw this as proof that they are winning and clapped and cheered as the blimp went over. the blimp should have dropped bags of dog crap as they went over.

you’re right these guys probably saw this as proof that they are winning and clapped and cheered as the blimp went over. the blimp should have dropped bags of dog crap as they went over.

Do NOT buy Dixie cups or Brawny paper towles–that just supports the Koch brothers.

Nice post .Are there any other products that can be associated with Koch.

I love you Greenpeace. You should have dropped a ton of smelly, hot, Chinese paper pulp on them.

I love you Greenpeace. You should have dropped a ton of smelly, hot, Chinese paper pulp on them.

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Here is the irony and truth. There are some Libertarian ideas that I do embrace, like reducing the size and roll of our military (that is in keeping with the ideals of founding fathers) and legalizing pot and reducing drug offenses that is fueling the incarceration industry. But the tea party as been taken over by the billionaire Koch brothers and their cartel who sole purpose is to get the uneducated masses who are easily influenced by the fear and propaganda that is put out through the domination of the right wing radio network (on our free airwaves) and FOX News to do their bidding of cutting taxes on the greedy rich (like the Koch brothers) and deregulating so that industries (like the conglomerates owned by the Koch brothers) are free to pollute our air and water and ship jobs overseas for slave wages.

Too many Americans are falling for the lies and con job put out by the very corp0ratists and their tools who could give a rat’s ass about them and are the number one reason why the middle class is being destroyed. They are subverting and making a mockery of our U.S. Constitution and getting the ignorant masses to buy it. They have with their media created “Idiot America.” If anybody needs to no how stupid so many Americans have become is simply look at how they have bought into this idea that Pres. Obama is the most socialist president we have ever had. Unfreaking believable. And when I see these people running around with their tea bags hats and covered from head to toe in red, white, and blue fearing the government that was put in place to protect it’s citizens from predators and oligarchs like the Koch brothers I see nothing but packs of fools shooting themselves in the foot over and over.

The John Birch Society was created and funded by the Koch brothers’ father not on an ideology based upon freedom but based on his fear of having his wealth and power taken away from him.

Here is the irony and truth. There are some Libertarian ideas that I do embrace, like reducing the size and roll of our military (that is in keeping with the ideals of founding fathers) and legalizing pot and reducing drug offenses that is fueling the incarceration industry. But the tea party as been taken over by the billionaire Koch brothers and their cartel who sole purpose is to get the uneducated masses who are easily influenced by the fear and propaganda that is put out through the domination of the right wing radio network (on our free airwaves) and FOX News to do their bidding of cutting taxes on the greedy rich (like the Koch brothers) and deregulating so that industries (like the conglomerates owned by the Koch brothers) are free to pollute our air and water and ship jobs overseas for slave wages.

Too many Americans are falling for the lies and con job put out by the very corp0ratists and their tools who could give a rat’s ass about them and are the number one reason why the middle class is being destroyed. They are subverting and making a mockery of our U.S. Constitution and getting the ignorant masses to buy it. They have with their media created “Idiot America.” If anybody needs to no how stupid so many Americans have become is simply look at how they have bought into this idea that Pres. Obama is the most socialist president we have ever had. Unfreaking believable. And when I see these people running around with their tea bags hats and covered from head to toe in red, white, and blue fearing the government that was put in place to protect it’s citizens from predators and oligarchs like the Koch brothers I see nothing but packs of fools shooting themselves in the foot over and over.

The John Birch Society was created and funded by the Koch brothers’ father not on an ideology based upon freedom but based on his fear of having his wealth and power taken away from him.

bostonboy is just repeating the talking points he’s been fed

right wingers can’t think for themselves

bostonboy is just repeating the talking points he’s been fed

right wingers can’t think for themselves

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Capitalism does two things…it legalizes and rewards greed.
Greed (excessive desire to acquire or possess more, especially more material wealth, than one needs or deserves) has been with human beings forever.
We have a number of things in our species that you would call the dark side, and greed is one of them. If you don’t put certain structures in place or restrictions on those parts of our being that come from that dark place, then it gets out of control.
Capitalism does the opposite of that. It not only doesn’t really put any structure or restriction on greed. It both encourages and rewards the dark side.

How do you have a name like neo-con hater, but you don’t want to know what the Koch bro’s talk about in their strategy meeting?

It’s called investigative journalism.

Did I say I didn’t want to know what is talked about at your heroes circle jerk??
Nope, I didn’t say that, so go fuck yourself, dipshit.

The irony is, if those who deny the Greenhouse win, — they will condemn themselves to death. Even these almost mysteriously evil Koch Brothers. And, of course, everyone else, and especially future generations, who will really have to live under the curse of our environmental blunders and plunders. Thank you, Greenpeace, for expressing what a lot of us feel.

No Angel Soft?!! Are you kidding??!!! NOOOOOO!!!!!!!

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The inability of the people to unite for their own interests against the plutocracy and the oligarchic powers that be is certainly not something new in America. And it is one of the primary reasons that our particular version of capitalism is so much more mean-spirited, rancorous, free-wheeling and greed-driven than anything currently being practiced in Europe. Here’s the same problem eloquently stated in the first paragraph of a popular book from 60 years ago that was picked as one of the 257 New York Times’ best books of the year in 1951.

While the author, C. Wright Mills, is specifically writing about white collar workers, the problem he identifies, as several people here have noted, is far more universal and more importantly is still with us today, which might say something about my sardonic sense of pessimism. In 1951 Mills could still find distinct differences between the class consciousness of the “working class” which he distinguished from the middle class here identified by the term “white collar” workers. Since then the problem has been exacerbated by the destruction of the unions for nearly all workers and a lack of unity and cohesion among those who are not members of the ruling class has come to encompass most all of the workers in America.

“The white collar people slipped quietly into modern society. Whatever history they have had is a history without events; whatever common interests they have do not lead to unity; whatever future they have will not be of their own making. If they aspire at all it is to a middle course, at a time when no middle course is available, and hence to an illusory course in an imaginary society. Internally, they are split, fragmented; externally, they are dependent on larger forces. Even if they gained the will to act, their actions, being unorganized, would be less a movement than a tangle of unconnected contests. As a group, they do not threaten anyone; as individuals, they do not practice an independent way of life. So before an adequate idea of them could be formed, they have been taken for granted as familiar actors of the urban mass.”

From C. Wright Mills (1916-1962), “White Collar; The American Middle Classes” (1951), ix.

The inability of the people to unite for their own interests against the plutocracy and the oligarchic powers that be is certainly not something new in America. And it is one of the primary reasons that our particular version of capitalism is so much more mean-spirited, rancorous, free-wheeling, and greed-driven than anything currently being practiced in Europe or Australia. Here’s the same problem eloquently stated in the first paragraph of a popular book from 60 years ago that was picked as one of the 257 New York Times’ best books of the year in 1951.

While the author, C. Wright Mills, is specifically writing about white collar workers, the problem he identifies, as several people here have noted, is far more universal and more importantly, is still with us today, which might say something about my sardonic sense of pessimism. In 1951 Mills could still find distinct differences between the class consciousness of the “working class” which he distinguished from the middle class here identified by the term “white collar” workers. Since then the problem has been exacerbated by the destruction of the unions and a lack of union membership for nearly all workers and a lack of unity and cohesion among those who are not members of the ruling class which has now has come to encompass most all of the workers in America.

“The white collar people slipped quietly into modern society. Whatever history they have had is a history without events; whatever common interests they have do not lead to unity; whatever future they have will not be of their own making. If they aspire at all it is to a middle course, at a time when no middle course is available, and hence to an illusory course in an imaginary society. Internally, they are split, fragmented; externally, they are dependent on larger forces. Even if they gained the will to act, their actions, being unorganized, would be less a movement than a tangle of unconnected contests. As a group, they do not threaten anyone; as individuals, they do not practice an independent way of life. So before an adequate idea of them could be formed, they have been taken for granted as familiar actors of the urban mass.”

From C. Wright Mills (1916-1962), “White Collar; The American Middle Classes” (1951), ix.

Drone the fucker and rig it with [you decide]. Then let the Air Force bitch boys shoot it down.

Drone the fucker and rig it with [you decide]. Then let the Air Force bitch boys shoot it down.

Let’s see—the delegates had the ability to drink coffee, but they didn’t think about actually riding a bicycle?

They had the ability to walk across the room, but they didn’t actually think about the color puce?

They had the ability to speak in a low murmur, but they didn’t actually think about a lagoon?

Shocking. Shocking. Shocking.

Where would we be without the intellectual by-products of the conservaturds?

Let’s see—the delegates had the ability to drink coffee, but they didn’t think about actually riding a bicycle?

They had the ability to walk across the room, but they didn’t actually think about the color puce?

They had the ability to speak in a low murmur, but they didn’t actually think about a lagoon?

Shocking. Shocking. Shocking.

Where would we be without the intellectual by-products of the conservaturds?

Yes we conservaturds kill people, but so do crocodiles. Imagine the outcry if we infringed the “rights” of crocodiles!.

You “leftists” attack us on behalf of the so-called “environment”, and yet you propose the extinction of whole genera of “endangered” reptiles!!!!! Hypocrites!!!! Where is your “intellectual” development? We’ll shoot you in the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes we conservaturds kill people, but so do crocodiles. Imagine the outcry if we infringed the “rights” of crocodiles!.

You “leftists” attack us on behalf of the so-called “environment”, and yet you propose the extinction of whole genera of “endangered” reptiles!!!!! Hypocrites!!!! Where is your “intellectual” development? We’ll shoot you in the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don’t be a KOCH SUCKER!!!

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