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$5 million lawsuit targets Jimmy Carter for ‘attacking Israel’

By Sahil Kapur
Thursday, February 3, 2011 9:33 EDT
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WASHINGTON – Former President Jimmy Carter has become the target of a class action lawsuit over ostensibly mean things he said about Israel in his best-selling 2006 book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid.

The lawsuit, filed in New York by an Israeli firm, alleges that the book “contained numerous false and knowingly misleading statements intended to promote the author’s agenda of anti-Israel propaganda and to deceive the reading public instead of presenting accurate information as advertised.”

The five American plaintiffs, two of whom are dual citizens of the US and Israel, seek $5 million in damages over the book (which is being sold for less than $10 on Amazon) on the basis that its criticisms of Israel violated consumer protection safeguards.

The plaintiffs alleged in a press release that the 39th US president and Nobel Peace Prize winner “violated the law and, thus, harmed those who purchased the book” by unfairly “attacking Israel.”

Attorney Nitsana Darshan-Leitner said her clients’ lawsuit “will expose all the falsehoods and misrepresentations in Carter’s book and prove that his hatred of Israel has led him to commit this fraud on the public.”

Publishing company Simon & Schuster, which is also targeted in the lawsuit, dismissed it as a frivolous act and a “chilling attack on free speech that we intend to defend vigorously.”

“This lawsuit is frivolous, without merit, and is a transparent attempt by the plaintiffs, despite their contentions, to punish the author, a Nobel Peace prize winner and world-renowned statesmen, and his publisher, for writing and publishing a book with which the plaintiffs simply disagree,” Simon & Schuster spokesman Adam Rothberg told the Washington Post.

A copy of the complaint can be viewed here.

[h/t Matt Yglesias]

 
 
 
 
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  • Anonymous

    *Snort*

  • Anonymous

    Great idea!

  • Anonymous

    What garbage. What bullies these Zionists are. They even repress dissent within their own country. As a Jew of conscience I oppose Zionism and its racist, colonialist ideology–a relic of 19th century colonialism, it has no place in the 21st century! Let us speak for a united Palestine, one person, one vote, and an end to Zionist terror!

  • Anonymous

    Please try to avoid conflating “Jew” with “Zionist”, Elim. Many Jews including myself are actively opposed to the Zionist state. Many Christians support Zionism. It is Zionism, a racist, colonialist ideology, that we oppose. Not Jews.

  • Elim

    What happened in Nazi Germany is NOT going to happen again, despite any protestations to the contrary. All of the peoples of the world, black, white, brown and yellow have been discriminated against by these Jewish elites, simply for not being Jewish! Our country is held hostage by fear, guilt, subjugation, debt and yes, mind control (through their organ, the media). It is time to turn the tables.

  • Anonymous

    The distinction between Jews and Zionism must be stated repeatedly so the false and continuous conflation of Israel criticism with Anti-Semitic beliefs in the MSM and Zionist propaganda conduits is discredited forever. It is historically the argument of last resort when all else has failed. Until recently, people have been so brainwashed that there was an immediate and axiomatic acceptance of the “truth” of it. Hence, the critic and his analysis, however truthful and accurate, is discredited, and no further discussion is warranted.

  • Elim

    Because the judge will be Jewish. Count on it.

  • Harry Tuttle

    Love the avatar Bandit

  • Elim

    They don’t just treat the Falasha like shit (black ethiopian Jews) but also the real Jews, the Sephardi. Ashkenazi are imposters and posers. They call non-white Jews “Kooshim” which is like calling a black a ni@@er. Racist bastards.

  • Elim

    You know, they might be right. Bush is so stupid he probably did say a bunch of shit about them that wasn’t true. He can always blame the person(s) that really wrote the book.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L5RTBE66FQNQHQLJKVXOPQAQZQ Jasper

    Can you be a little vaguer concerning the identity of these “vile varmits” cause I am very willing to call out these shadowy figures if I knew who they were. So who is behind the curtain and please don’t let it be George Soros!

  • Elim

    I’ve already had two.

  • Schmice

    yes

  • Elim

    You know, I think Rand Paul is a bit of a kook, but I’m starting to warm up to the nutter.

  • Schmice

    George Lincoln Rockwell was the head of the American Nazi Party. It says everything we need to know about you.

  • Elim

    We must revisit the holocaust issue, and we must NEVER allow one of these Jewish thought crimes bills pass into law.

  • Roberthe

    The first “suicide bomber” I ever heard of was Samson (okay, he wasn’t a bomber but his was still an act of political murder through suicide). Suicide bombings, which I in no way condone, are the acts of desperate people who have no other recourse. Israelis don’t have a need to resort to such methods: they have the full support of the state and a world-class military (funded in large part by American tax dollars) to inflict harm on their enemies and steal their ancestral lands. How would you propose the Palestinians respond to the ongoing violation of international laws they have suffered at the hands of Israel, or do you believe that Israel has a right to all the West Bank?

  • Anonymous

    I hope Jimmy Carter fights this in court. What’s Israel going to say when his book is proven true in a court of law? He’s too nice a guy to counter sue however, I’d counter sue the little jewish not-sees.

  • Anonymous

    That attitude of “child-like slaves” (or, the modern term “blacks”) needing care was prevalent through the 1950′s. Jim Crow Laws furthered that attitude until the late 60′s when the Black Panther Party began to rise up to overthrow that image.

    When White America saw that they were “as mad as hell and they weren’t going to take it anymore”, President Nixon had J. Edgar and the boys systematically kill or imprison most of them. That’s the way White America used to deal with those “uppity Negroes”.

  • Anonymous

    Suggestion: prior to lawsuit, start allowing west bank arabs to travel on jews-only roads, and enjoy other privileges restricted to “settlers”. This will really take the wind out of the sails of the “apartheid” claim.

  • Anonymous

    But remember please, Carter is an “enemy of Israel”. He forced Begin to agree to that horrible treaty with Egypt which has guaranteed the security of Isreal from major military assault for the past three decades.

    Isreal needs more “enemies” like that.

  • Schmice

    There are a lot of comments that can only be described as hateful toward the Jews. I’m sure these same people will slam me for saying this. There are a few in particular who are so out to lunch that it makes me wonder what kind of parents they are. The hateful comments need to stop. If you have an opinion based on facts and well-reasoned arguments, you might want to share them. If you are only looking for excuses to tout your hatred of an entire people, then you might want to post them on Aryan nation sites. (I say this because one of the commentators even put in a link to a George Lincoln Rockwell vitriolic “poem”.Rockwell, for those who don’t know it was the head of the American Nazi Party.)

    I usually enjoy the back and forth discussions on Rawstory, but this particular story seems to have brought the racists and hatemongers to the fore. While I am not one to march in lockstep with Israeli policies, some of the absolute lies being peddled here do not help the critics’ arguments. If they hate the Jews so much, they should refuse to use ANY products, medicines and inventions brought to us by Jews.

  • Elim

    Hey, that’s a great idea, Denny! There are still some of the Liberty sailors around.

  • Anonymous

    I hear 5 million is exactly the amount needed to cultivate some balls via stem cells so as not to be hurt and insulted by what someone says.

  • Elim

    Oily taint.

  • Elim

    Not yet they haven’t. They’ve already won nearly everything we have, and are still grasping for more. Takes real chutzpah to file suit against such a respected man for something so frivolous, and if they win, they’ll do it again and again.

  • Elim

    Perhaps you can paraphrase what she said, since her comment was removed?

  • Anonymous

    “There are a lot of comments that can only be described as hateful toward the Jews”

    That’s not correct most comments are suppoting Pres. Carter (A very decent person) and also critic Zionists’ Grabbing Land policy under the Cover of Terror “We are under terror Attack” when in fact you Invented the Modern terrorism (Thanks but no Thanks ) as you can see in this video in your own worlds :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gah_cu3czvc

    Support 67 Borders folks.. before its to late!

  • Elim

    Please specify the lies so those who wish to can “refudiate” them.

  • Elim

    There is nothing holy in or about Israel. They have turned it into the Devil’s paradise.

  • Anonymous

    Is five million the price of truth?

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Yes, that hypersensitive that only serves to encourage the thugs to do more bullying.

  • Anonymous

    reply to Yvonneo —Its not so strange being Jewish in the US or Israel really isn’t the point, just ask Noam Chomsky. When their wrong their wrong and the only recourse is to stifle any opposing opinion period. That is why protest and political speech is being made illegal in Israel, because to debate is to acknowledge other facts and realities impossible to deal with rationally. Above all else they must control the narrative.

  • Elim

    I try not to Jenny, but I don’t see any zionists who are not, unless they are nutty religious fundamentalists. I’ll try harder. Thanks for reminding me.

  • http://twitter.com/mujaku mujaku

    What else can be said? Some Israeli crackpots have unlearned their respect for the U.S. hand that feeds them.

  • Anonymous

    The lawsuit sounds frivolous. On the other hand, mistreatment of the Palestinians continues because there is no incentive for Israel to stop. Even if they stopped all settlements and gave every Palestinian $10,000 it wouldn’t change the fact that Muslims have wanted Israel destroyed since the beginning in 1948. The world thinks if only the Israelis would stop mistreating Palestinians and be nice there would be peace but even if they did muslims would still call for Israel’s destruction. They always have so why should Israel change?

  • Elim

    How’s the weather in Tel Aviv?

  • Anonymous

    Stumbled across RS a couple of weeks ago and became AMAZED at the amount of anti-Israeli and Jewish comments/hatred, thought it was a nazi white-power site.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E7ZHTZJQQRFVHLJZDWE6EA53BY Zax

    Why’s everybody always “picking” on us? …………………
    I became curious about the Basis of the Jewish “claim” to Palestine,
    how they were always crying “God gave it to us”,
    so I read their claim.
    Their “claim” to Palestine, in a book THEY wrote,
    is based entirely on War Crimes and GENOCIDE.
    It is UNFAIR and WRONG to compare Israel to the Nazis.
    The CORRECT comparison is that of the Nazis to the Israelis:
    The Nazis just copied the Jewish “Manual” point by point
    KILL THE SICK and CRIPPLED
    Numbers c.5 v.2-4
    KILL HOMOSEXUALS
    Leviticus c.20 v.13 well, really the whole chapter
    KILL ALL DISSIDENTS:
    Exodus c.32 v.27
    Numbers c.11 v.1-2
    Numbers c.16 all
    Numbers c.21 v.5-6
    Numbers v.26 v.10
    KILL anyone who engages in “DIVERSITY” or “INTEGRATION”
    Numbers v25 v.4-8
    Deuteronomy c.14 v.2
    DEHUMANIZE and then EXTERMINATE ALL NON-MEMBERS:
    Numbers c.21 v.03 Canaanites
    Numbers c.21 v.24 Amorites
    Numbers c.21 v.33-35 Bashan
    Numbers c.31 all Midianites
    Numbers c.32 v. more Amorites
    Deuteronomy c.2 v.34 People of Heshbon
    Deuteronomy c.3 v.6 really the whole chapter. threescore cities
    Joshua c.12 A list of victims of Israeli GENOCIDE
    Where are THEIR “holocaust” Memorials!
    OCCUPY YOUR VICTIM’S DWELLINGS/LAND
    Numbers c.21 v.25
    Numbers c.32 v.39
    Numbers c.33 v.53
    (just to name a FEW)
    GENOCIDE CODIFIED IN THEIR RELIGION
    Numbers c.33 v.31-34
    Deuteronomy c.7 v.2
    Deuteronomy c.12 v.28-30
    Deuteronomy c.20 v.11-16
    TERRORISM CODIFIED IN THEIR RELIGION
    Deuteronomy c.2 v.2
    Deuteronomy c.7 v.1
    Jews SELF-anointed “The CHOSEN People of GOD”
    Nazis SELF-anointed “The GENETICALLY CHOSEN People of God”.

  • Roberthe

    A few thoughts:
    1) Do Israelis have a right to live in Israel?
    If you answer “yes” do they
    A) Have the right to evict Palestinians at will or whim from lands in the Westt Bank? If yes then why?
    If you answer “no”
    A) Do they have the right to a homeland? If so, where?
    B) If you believe they have no right to a homeland where ought they live?
    C) What right then do non-indigenous people have of living in North and South America
    and Australia?

    I am totally opposed to Israel’s policies toward the Palestinians dating back to 1948. As such I stand in opposition to modern Zionist expansionism. That said I am frustrated by the frequency of arguments in this thread that play upon anti-Jewish stereotypes such as that they are “money grubbers” or that there are reasons why they have been kicked out of every country, etc. There is an appropriate debate on what constitutes anti Semitism: accusing the Arabs of being anti Semitic is absurd on its face. However, the trotting out of these old saws is vile and ought to have no place in any post-Holocaust debate on Zionist actions. Such postings would find a better fit on Storm Front. That they haven’t been ripped to shreds gives me pause to think of the shortness of the human attention span. Jew does not automatically equate with Zionist. Zionists have much to answer for their actions and beliefs, and our attacks ought to be focused on them. To attack people because they are Jewish is morally derelict. It is no different than attacking people solely because they are Moslem, or Catholic, or Black, or White.

  • hegesias

    I try to keep an open mind, and my parents are Jewish, but I’m really starting to fucking hate Israel.

  • Anonymous

    Say anything outside the “accepted” about Israel and get sued, fired or worse. What does that tell you about our foreign policy toward Israel? Mind you, I don’t have a dog in the fight but it sure seems to me to be over the top.

  • Anonymous

    AM-EEEEEEER-CA HAS TO BE A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY…………O.K……….
    FORMAL AND INFORMAL PROSELYTIZING IN ALL THE MILITARY…..AND THEY BEAT U UP IF
    YOUR NOT THE “RIGHT KIND OF CHRISTIAN”
    USA’s MERCENARY ARMY LEAD BY THE CHRISTIAN EXTREME…… ERIC PRINCE….
    from Holland Michigan….BLACKWATER(worse then the Texas Right) next door to Gary
    Bower……
    IRAQ……..GW BUSH “We are on a Crusade”
    Hummm? ISRAEL?……….ISRAEL?……Mickey Mouse compared to ……..U. S.

  • Guest

    Here we go again with the “they did it first” routine. The dialog here is in reference to a frivolous lawsuit against our former president – and broker (up to this point) of lasting peace between Israel and Egypt. The lawsuit is using the tired “anti-semitism” excuse to attempt to deny our president his exercise of free speech. That overused reflexive label for anything zionists disagree with has lost relevant meaning and sympathies.
    I’ve read lots of books I didn’t really like. Maybe I should have sued. (sarcasm)

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    You know…after years spent moderately calling for a peaceful end to Israeli aggression and crimes against humanity…while still insisting that Israel deserves a peaceful state within its UN granted borders…

    …this bullshit is actually tipping me the other way. Maybe, just maybe, given the zealotry, psychosis, hate, and contempt for law or human rights that exists in the pro-Israel camp…maybe we really should sever all support and just let the whole region go to hell in a handbasket…preferably with a few nukes as a parting gift just to make sure the rubble bounces well.

    Defending Israels right to exist is like getting in bed with the mafia…once you’re in there’s no way out with your dignity left intact. I’ll never adopt anti-Semitism as a worldview…but the political state of Israel is utterly corrupt in every respect…and its spies and lobbies in the US are two bit hacks and scam artists that deserve to hang instead of being handled with kid gloves and shipped home every couple years.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CWCUNJY55DL23OCWVOHJ2FDYUI Luigi

    “anti-Israel propaganda and to deceive the reading public instead of presenting accurate information as advertised”
    What do the Zionist jews know about presenting “accurate information as advertised”? According to them, anybody who says anything against Israel, is an antisemite.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CWCUNJY55DL23OCWVOHJ2FDYUI Luigi

    “anti-Israel propaganda and to deceive the reading public instead of presenting accurate information as advertised”

    So, what do the Zionist jews know about presenting accurate “information as advertised”?
    All their info is BS propaganda and anybody who disputes it is an antisemite, according to Jews.

  • Anonymous

    Not sure what your reply has to do with my comment but I am trying to understand why things don’t change. What incentive does Israel have to improve? According to them: none since they feel it doesn’t make any difference, the arabs want Israel dead. If there was some ground to negotiate on this, say if Israel let the west bank go and unblocked gaza while the muslims agreed to leave Israel alone then perhaps there would be some incentive to do better but as long as the survival of israel is not an option they feel like, well, what the hell? Why be nice?.

  • Anonymous

    Israel is a thorn in the balls of the universe.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Israelis are cowards. They’d rather hop on a fighter jet and drop depleted uranium and white phosphorous on civilians. That’s much more honorable than being a suicide bomber, of course.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Oh, hell, don’t I know? I’ve got an entire folder labeled “Racist Israel” that has enough documents in there to fill up a room. It’s not just the black jews but it’s also women, Arabs, each other, anybody else that gets in their way. They are the biggest mother fucking racists the world has ever known. And if you want to see the love they have for Americans, ha! take a walk by the Ha’aretz and open up a thread on Obama and you’ll see what I mean. They also lash out on everybody and anybody that dares say something so much as contradictory to their complex of superiority and uniqueness.

  • Anonymous

    Will the defence be the Bible on this one. Israel can’t be spoken bad of but they have the holy right to talk bad about America and other countries. Israel can commit War Crimes and a Holocaust on the Palestine people and defend it with their holy and chosen, while asking once again for the World to remember Hitler’s attacks on the Jews. Americans in slaved people but that doesn’t count, Iran tortured people that doesn’t count as we need only remember what was done to the Jews. We got to watch two Israel soldier use an illegal Cluster bomb on Palestine woman and children as the two soldiers laughed as the little girl burned to death. We can’t talk about that because Israel is the Holy Land and can do what they want with God’s blessings but others can’t. Right now Israel like always needs money and for the homes being built on Palestine land. The shocker is many of the very Wealthy Jewish Americans aren’t giving their money to Israel. You know they would love to get their hands on Mark Zuckenbergs Billions. But they did do will with Bernie Madoff as he gave billions to buy his way into the holy land. Ok Bernie robbed fellow Jews and America but what else would you expect for Bernie. As the Middle East riots for new Leaders, Israel should be worried even their fellow supporter Rep. Eric Cantor is being brought by the Koch Bros.
    Just think of the US could sue Israel for every bad thing Israel has said about the US and our Leaders it would clear up our National Debt and balance the budget. Israel even has spies in the US reporting back so much for friendship.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Can’t keep your mouth shut even at the risk of showing your ignorance, eh?

  • mick

    Can Palestinians start a class action for 5 TRILLION Dollars for the loss of their country ?

  • mick

    well stated .

  • Guest

    You don’t know what my response to you has to do with your comment because you choose to avoid the subject matter which is the opportunists’ frivolous lawsuit against our former president. And their grievance is “anti-semitism” because he wrote something they didn’t like. Sorry that’s lame and a waste of our tax dollars.

  • Anonymous

    I find it incredible after all these years of Israeli human rights violations and atrocities these people have the audacity to deny they happened. The rest of the world can see the elephant in the room. They want us to believe it’s only our imagination. I read “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid,” and in my opinion, President Carter showed remarkable restraint.
    In spite of what many Christian Zionists in America believe, Israel does not have a “Special Dispensation From God” that renders it immune from criticism.

  • Guest

    You also ask “what incentive does Israel have to improve?”
    What incentive do Americans have to keep funding Israel? What’s in it for us?

  • Anonymous

    I heard that Israelis do not have the right to own property in Isreal. It seems Isreal is somebodies theme park, so that all can enjoy it, but not own any.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    התביעה היא מגוחכת, ג ‘ימי קרטר הוא חף מפשע

  • Anonymous

    Can you be more specific?

  • http://twitter.com/mlake9 Mitch Lake

    I wonder if they actually read President Carter’s book, it focused on the conditions the Palestinian people are subjected to. But for anyone who doesn’t believe that the Palestinians have legitimate grievances here’s a timeline map of the country we now refer to as Israel.
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Israel_stealing_palestine.jpg

  • Guest

    Yes, I tend to agree with your disappointment in the broad-brush vilifying of all Jews. I don’t like right-wing fundamentalism of any religion. The world would be a much better place without such self-deifying rhetoric that has only lead to senseless wars throughout the millenia. And as a non-believer, I get tired of our public policies being crafted by parties with political agendas using much needed tax dollars.

  • Guest

    “Holy Land”
    That always makes me want to roll my eyes. As if any land is more holy than anywhere else on this little orb that is life sustaining. And to kill for this? Lunacy.

  • http://ray032.com/ Ray Joseph Cormier

    If you read the Old Testament Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel and so many other places in the Bible, God was constantly criticizing Israel by the Prophets.

    Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD has spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
    The ox knows his owner, and the ass his master’s crib: but Israel does not know, my people do not consider.
    Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
    Why should you be stricken any more? you will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
    From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and purifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment. Isaiah 1

    O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kills the prophets, and stones them which are sent to you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, and you would not!
    Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
    For I say to you, You shall not see me henceforth, till you shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord. Words of Christ Matthew 23

  • http://ray032.com/ Ray Joseph Cormier

    WorldLingo.com translation

    The claim is ridiculous, in “days of Jimmy Carter is innocent

  • Anonymous

    Hebrew to English translation by Google
    “The claim is ridiculous, Jimmy Carter is innocent”

  • http://ray032.com/ Ray Joseph Cormier

    Thus says the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that you build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
    For all those things has my hand made, and those things have been, says the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. Isaiah 66

    The whole of the earth is Holy Land.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t feel bad at all.

    I’m dating an American Jewish woman but I can still feel anger at Israel for their politics.
    Kinda like how I’m African American but don’t approve of Uganda policy of killing homosexuals or South African’s killing of albino people for superstitious reasons.

  • Anonymous

    There are actually many thousands of Christian Zionists, including American politicians like Mike Hukabee, and the prime minister of Canada! But my concern is the conflation of Jew with Zionist. NOT all Jews are Zionists and this is important to know. Many of us are active opponents of the Zionist ideology and don’t even believe there should be a Jewish state at ALL! We work in solidarity with the people of Palestine.

  • Schmice

    Some of your own hateful and lying comments for openers.

  • Anonymous

    Indigenous North Americans are welcome to live in the US under American law and or sovereign North American land.

    Palestinians aren’t allowed to live in Israel because the Israeli government wants a Jewish only country to make a self fulfilling prophecy true so God will come down and some other stuff I could care less blah blah blah…

  • Schmice

    I’ve seen the same thing. While the articles are for the most part good, some of the comments are extremely hateful. I could not believe the level of vitriol against the Jewish people that some of these individuals posted. I am by nature a leftist, but at the same time I am a realist. Some of these people blather on and are uninformed. They don’t let the truth get in the way of their propaganda. It is really unfortunate to see that they will always hate the Jews and will never let an opportunity go by to preach it. I won’t bother answering them because they will only twist the truth.

  • Schmice

    Just go through the comment and you will see much more hate for the Jews than praise for Carter, a man I voted for and canvassed for.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IU72YX5ZGG66HHMYLH6BGVFQ5Y Victor Krevocheza

    Answers to….
    1) As much as anybody else has
    2) NO
    3) Yes. The moon !

    Attention Israeli opportunists…….sue me!!

  • Anonymous

    Aye, unfortunately so.

    That was meant as an observation, not an excuse. The closest I’d get to giving an excuse is: they are under a lot of pressure from without; and, as their hypersensitivity is not totally groundless…. (I know, it’s not much of an excuse, but as I said, it’s as close as I’d get.)

    I have higher hopes for Austria than for Germany, and certainly higher than for Switzerland. Austria’s government is willing to say ‘no’ to Washington, when it is to the benefit of their own people. Many larger nations’ governments haven’t that kind of courage and integrity.

    Switching topics: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/04/world/middleeast/04diplomacy.html

    “White House, Egypt Discuss Plan for Mubarak’s Exit”

  • cannotvote

    This will be fun – people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones!

  • Anonymous

    Jimmy Carter continues to prove himself among the most honest and courageous American statesmen alive today.

    These 5 freedom-intolerant American/Israeli plaintiffs, who disagree with Carter’s point of view, reflect the desperation of the Israeli government, in its inevitably failing effort to defend a reprehensible and oppressive policy of apartheid and occupation.

  • Anonymous

    Sad part is most people in Israel (and Palestine)are fairly moderate and secular, it’s just the extremists that control both sides, and their survival depends on perpetual war. Eventually we’ll turn on the Israeli leadership, the entire world other than America sees them for what they are. (Stasi Pigs)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6KCOVUYDUEIKOEOX4UJG2DBUA Rick Reed

    Freedom of speech is equal with the depth of your wallet? Of course he is now expected to hire a Lawyer to defend his good name and his honesty. This is where we’ve come to.

  • Anonymous

    Grrr, this is stupid

  • cannotvote

    I appreciate your spirituality and all but many here aren’t so … – some even consider the Bible to be only the work of Man – a political work, at that. Imposition of belief and justification of action because of it, is therefore a little suspect! Israel for many is an illegal state created by zionists, a political stance – performing a genocide based on belief in some unprovable manuscripts is more of an act of dementia and delusion – and only self serving, that also is suspect. So citing scripture as justification, what ever side of an argument it may be siding with is also suspect – but with respect. Consider this painting by the Russian artist entitled ‘What is truth’ by Nikolai Ge. http://www.auburn.edu/~mitrege/russian/art/ge-truth.html

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ hounddogg

    put up or shut up…lets see some examples and criticism of Zionism doesn’t count as “hateful towards Jews” either…

  • Anonymous

    Let me get this straight: two Jew Americans are suing the best president this country has had since 1963…because he said “mean things” about the rogue state of Israel, a FOREIGN COUNTRY?

    See? There is a very good reason I admire Jimmy Carter.

    farang’s Final Solution: First Class ONE WAY airfare for all Zionists to Tel Aviv, starting tomorrow morning. NO RIGHT OF RETURN.

    How does that feel, Israel-huggers? And take your gal Palin and your boy Biden with you, please, thank you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DG4IDJWMJG5XOGQMO4QIOLXGRI First L

    ISRAEL AND ITS ZIONIST SUPPORTERS WILL NOT BE SO ARROGANT NOW, THEY ARE SITTING ON THIN ICE WITH THE REBELLIONS IN THE MID EAST WHICH WILL CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMIC FOR THE BETTER, TEAR DOWN THAT GAZA WALL. THOSE PLAINTIFFS IN THIS LAWSUIT WOULD WELCOME THE REPRESSION OF THE MUSSOLINI AND NAZI REGIMES WHICH ALSO SOUGHT TO STIFLE FREE ESPRESSION

  • CaptainHowdy

    Do these asshats really want to take this to court? I’m pretty sure that Carter downplayed the real atrocities committed by Israel. If evidence was presented in court, showing their true nature, they will cause even more damage to Israel’s already tarnished image.

  • Anonymous

    There are no democracies because the US and Israeli governments keep it that way. Mosadegh and Nasser, just for starters…for shame…

  • Anonymous

    This lawsuit is B,S and i bet Carter would have liked to call a spade a spade and probably held back on the way he really feels about Israel.
    Israel is governed by Satan himself and is guilty as hell for using illegal banned weapons on the Palestinians . Not to mention the theft of nearly all their land. The ones that say they are Israeli’s are not even Israeli’s but Khazarian Jews from Russia. They practice Zionism and are Guilty of Genoside and other war crimes against humanity .

  • Anonymous

    The earliest Zionists coined the term to conflate themselves with the people of ancient Judea so they could lay a false race based claim to Palestine. I recommend Shlomo Sand’s book “The Invention of the Jewish People” Check out his talk about his book on You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EmvANgw9Mk

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RZTZPSZHHZBGTFJACF5QJLHMU VICKI

    Yet hateful political rhetoric that incites actual violence is freedom of speech and not in any way responsible for the actions of crazy people. Jimmy is entitled to give his opinion as much as everyone else.

  • Anonymous

    Boy, are these folks stupid. This is a perfect forum for Carter to show that not only were his claims accurate, but that the reality of Israel’s abuse of the Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, Bedouin, etc, etc, and its disregard for our interests, despite America giving over $3 Billion a year (burrowed from China no less) to a prosperous, belligerent, “ally” is worse than even he depicted.

  • Roberthe

    What you say about members of the 500 Nations on the surface is true in that they can theoretically live wherever, but 400 years ago it was all their land. That land was wrenched from them, mainly by murder and deceit. Practically speaking however, they have been relegated to the worst land, provided with the poorest services, denied their culture and religion, and in many cases had their children forcibly removed and “educated” into Anglo “values”. They remain at the very lowest rung of the economic ladder in this country, have the highest suicide rate and the lowest high school graduation rate. They are aliens in their own land. Typically, this country was one of four nations that refused to ratify the UN Declaration of Indigenous Rights in 2009, along with Canada, Australia and New Zealand. There’s a pattern there somewhere…

    Over 20% of the population of Israel is Arab, and as such they are all Palestinians. What is more at stake here is the West Bank, which is supposedly Palestinian as per UN Charter but which is being methodically Balkanized by the Israeli government, with more and more land being given to Jewish settlers. The Israeli intention can be reasonably extrapolated to ghettoize the Palestinians in their own land.

  • Anonymous

    The US does recognize dual citizenship (child born of US parents in foreign country, marriage, naturalized US citizen, etc.). In order to “lose” your US citizenship you need to voluntarily apply for foreign citizenship with the intention of renouncing your US citizenship. So unless you know something that the US Dept. of State doesn’t… you are misinformed.

  • Anonymous

    C’mon, Zax. You already posted this several hours ago. Quit taking up readership real estate…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZMV43KGQ6CDZCTIEJQBXQG3EOI Norm

    Israel is a festering sore on the world’s ass.

  • Anonymous

    I understand the sentiment… and it’s tough to not feel the same way about ourselves since the US likes the Israeli status quo and supports it politically, economically and militarily (culturally, too, I suppose). We like repressing people by proxy.

  • Anonymous

    It is truly amazing what religion does to people. No matter how badly they treat someone else they still cling to the belief that they are “alright” and it is the “other guy” who is wrong. This attitude knows no bounds. It affects Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, the “Hare Krishna” people (if that is the correct way to say it), and the rest of all the other religious zealots who think that “God is on their side”.

    I wonder where that little voice inside their head comes from? Better yet, I wonder how we “evolved” that little voice that says, “I’m OK and it is YOU who is not”? Just sayin’. :)

  • Anonymous

    To the plantiffs – - EAST SHIT AND GO BARK AT THE MOON!

  • Anonymous

    It’s about reinforcing the status quo in Palestine which is what both Israel and the US want. Don’t be fooled by talk of wanting a two state solution, or peace, or whatever. That’s all US propaganda; and believe me, we are the gold standard for effective propaganda.

  • Anonymous

    Jewish is not “semantics” to zionist.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks. And thanks to the families of Jewish Bundas for what they did during WWII.

  • Guest

    You would have had greater credibility if you had not said: “[T]he best president this country has had since 1963.”

    “Lust in his heart” Carter couldn’t find his ass with both hands. He such a loser he’ll probably lose this insane lawsuit. He’s almost as dumb as the morons who sued him.

  • http://twitter.com/BeegorBucleor David

    Another lame Israeli propaganda attack against someone who simply spoke the truth. Why don’t the plaintiffs just say what they’re really trying to do, which is make speaking the truth illegal if the truth reveals Israel’s guilt and malice? The whole world is tiring of Israel’s stupidity and belief that they’re above the basic laws of humanity.

  • Anonymous

    It’s the “on purpose” to say Jewish people are zionists and blame Israel’s problems on them. People need some ethics.

  • Guest

    Your rant against “anti-Jewish stereotypes” portends to take all of the fun out of this blog. Besides, when the Israelis are eventually overrun and use their nuclear arsenal as a doomsday device, the ME and its inhabitants will be less of an annoyance and a liability to the rest of us.

  • dula

    I’d trust the integrity of Carter before I would trust Jews who have more loyalty to Israel than to the US.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PCHLMPBJKYTW3LJBHZEZMO3TXQ What Ever

    Remember the USS Liberty, Israel?

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ hounddogg

    come on guy…copy and paste…lets see what you think is hatred of Jews…i have gone over this thread and see comments critical of Zionism and Israel’s policy towards the Palestinians…perhaps you are talking about two or three comments that the mods deleted?..otherwise you’re blowing hot air…

  • Guest

    Your ideas are foreign to this blog. The comments of Jew haters, Obama haters and the conspiracy thinkers are the most entertaining part.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    I have to agree with you on this one. Most people forget Carter initiated the Afghanistan insanity with Zbigniew Brzezinski

  • Elim

    Don’t forget Joe Biden, though I can’t for the life of me figure out why he would be a zionist. Doesn’t he understand what it is?

    I know not all Jews are zionists and not all zionists are Jews. No denying that. It’s only my measured opinion that says scientific polling would back up the apparent fact that the vast majority of zionists claim Jewish (Ashkenazi)ancestry. These people, their beliefs and their racist political ideology are a constant and ongoing threat to the rest of us. The good people of Israel need their own Twitter revolution to rid themselves of these parasites.

  • hourglass1

    deserves repeating “What Ever” : “Remember the USS Liberty, Israel?”

    except that this is just another instance of the US gov’ment putting Iraeli interests ahead of US servicemen and citizens dating back to 1967 i’m afraid.

    Remember 31 May 2010, Israel? Washington, D.C.?
    Remember 27 Dec 2008, Israel? Washington, D.C.?
    the list goes on and on and on, trust me …

  • Ma’at

    Israel is a terrorist state.

    Sue me.

  • http://ray032.com/ Ray Joseph Cormier

    The Jews did not exist when God made the Spiritual promises to Abraham, Issac and Jacob the individual, God re-named Israel. Israel as a Nation did not exist then.

    Only someone wilfully blind could deny the re-creation of temporal Israel is a creation of the Bible. Israel ceased to exist 3000 years ago. In the time of Jesus, the land was known as the Land of Palestine, a Province of Rome.

    The chutzpah! After all that Time, in our Time, for the Jews to be able to come back and say the Bible is our deed to the land is amazing indeed. Palestinians can’t get building permits and their titles to the Land don’t count anymore. That is the crux and reality of the issue.

    Lets go back to an even earlier Time in Bible History, before Abraham.

    In the beginning, when it was all good, God said to Adam, it’s all good, Man! Don’t mess with that tree having the knowledge of good and evil on it. Trust me. You don’t want to know Evil and Death.

    If you believe the Genesis of the Bible story, God created this planet Earth to be a totally Free Paradise Garden inhabited by forever young, naked and unashamed males and females perfected united together living in harmony with each other and with God.

    Being in that exalted state, the story goes God was passing through the Garden like the cool of the wind in the afternoon calling out, Adam! Where are you? Where you standing, Man?

    The Adam/Man answered God, I heard your voice in the Garden and I was afraid, so I hid myself, because I saw that I was naked.

    Who told you you are naked? Did you eat that fruit I told you not to eat? Straight questions without Judgment or condemnation, but calling for upfront Truth and Trust.

    We know God is forgiving and might have forgiven Adam if he faced up to God and took his personal responsibility.

    What did he do? He blamed God and the woman. The woman blamed the serpent.

    To this very Day, every human deep inside has some nagging, unidentified natural sense of that Biblical Garden in the Genesis. To this very day, everybody is passing the buck and blaming someone else.

    No matter how great the funeral, no matter how great the Mausoleum or tombstone above ground, the door of the grave is the same for all, from the greatest to the least, the famous and infamous, Jew and Gentile.

    We know at the separation of the sheep from the goats, when it will be too late to change anything, Christ will have already been among us in a human form people did not expect or recognize.

    Come! Blessed of my Father. Inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from before the foundations of the earth.

    Thomas. You have seen and now you believe. From now on, blessed are they who have not seen and yet believe.

    Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:13

  • Schmice

    Read all the comments.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/HISQFQ4AGC6OW77MXASZH4A4QI dchoubak

    like bubbling boils

  • Schmice

    You are right about the US and Mosadegh. Nasser came to power in a military coup. Read your history.

  • BigBuck

    I have an opinion, but am afraid to express it aloud or in print

    Thank you, Israelis.

    Thank you Talibaners.

    Thank you, Christian fundamentalists.

  • BrooklynRider

    Clearly, the Israeli firm is comprised of Zionist assholes.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see… they practically invented terrorist bombings in pursuit of their own independence on land which they basically stole, they spy on and routinely undermine their biggest benefactor — whose HUGE financial aid is the biggest reason for their success, and they have nuclear weapons yet can’t understand why their enemies — who they like to preemptively attack every so often — now want them. And now this lawsuit. Talk about a sense of entitlement.

    Why does the world have to suffer because Israel doesn’t “play well with others.” Cut off the funds until they learn to play nice.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Yes, but again, most American jews are repelled by that shit. Norman Podoretz (I know, American-Jewish neocon extraordinaire) wrote an article for WSJ last year lamenting “Why Are Jews Liberals?”

  • http://www.balmorheaprogressive.blogspot.com/ BaileyWuXiang

    Here’s the legal brief: Your Honor, we’re victims; give us some money.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Frivolous. Yes. Smelly, too.

    Is there any filter at all on what gets filed in that so-called court, or can you just stuff a wad of used toilet paper into the box?

  • Anonymous

    I agree the lawsuit is bullshit.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed-these so called “plantiffs” give a whole new meaning to the words “idiotic law suit”

  • Anonymous

    Oh great first corporations could claim to be people, and now countries are claiming to be people too.

    When do my cats get to be people? They are smarter than most of the people who post here.

  • Elim

    Who says it’s effective? Looks to me like people are waking up all over. Now if that would only translate into direct action.

  • Anonymous

    I think you should call a spade a spade, a shovel or a trowel….

    Pigs will never say nasty things about you or tell you lies; they might bump your back to push you over but they’ll never stab you in it instead. Pigs are sweet, cuddly and intelligent and best of all they taste really good.

    How about motherfucking ‘hoomans’ or motherfucking ‘fooeymans’ or just ‘those motherfuckers?’ Leave the pigs out, let them disassociate themselves from us rather gross creatures.

    :-) Naaah. I’m a cat person.

  • Elim

    That’s not the conspiracy theory I heard. I thought it was because the Liberty was an intelligence gathering vessel, monitoring the conflict between Israel and Egypt. The Israelis couldn’t commit any war crimes with the Americans there reporting on them (our military hadn’t been completely co-opted by them yet), so the order was given to attack, to prevent them from communicating anything. They didn’t have enough time or firepower to sink it before help–and more witnesses arrived.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/UR4DHHC3P6RRXIUP4LWX54YN7I hu

    what I don’t understand is – how could they imagine this *not* backfiring?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah Yeah I get it.
    It’s all EVE’s fault…
    Bunch of pissy shitty misogynist religions!

    Go Thomas Go !! Attaboy!!
    “blessed are they who have not seen and yet believe”
    Of course! All religicos and politicos prefer that people believe them ‘cos they say so… Saves the trouble and expense of providing evidence or rational thought…
    Just believe me – like good little sheep following the collie dog.
    Don’t think for yourself — you might realise I’m talking junk and screwing you and your kids.

    You know: it’s bad enough that ignorance is bliss.
    But do you have to push the point that stupidity is better – it’s eternal bliss?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ODHDTSN5TFE24TZS22LJWXHO6I Rash Lameballs

    Could we get a law suit against Sarah Palins books going?

  • Anonymous

    Just do what you said you would do, Israel:

    The Balfour Declaration (in its entirety):

    Foreign Office
    November 2nd, 1917

    Dear Lord Rothschild,

    I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

    “His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

    I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

    Yours sincerely,
    Arthur James Balfour

  • Anonymous

    We are waiting: “…it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine…” –The Balfour Declaration (1917)

  • Anonymous

    I smell a lawsuit…

  • Anonymous

    It’s mostly effective with those that still matter to them (for a while longer, anyway): with a sizable enough chunk of US voters that can keep this behemoth from turning around (on policy, that is). I agree with you that the momentum is shifting elsewhere and I hope it will here, too. Can’t come soon enough!

  • Anonymous

    Weren’t the first Zionists American Christians?

  • Anonymous

    The suit is “frivolous and without merit.” but in America a burglar can successfully sue a New Jersey school district after being injured falling through a skylight and a woman can recover damages from McDonald’s for spilling hot coffee which was “too hot.” With 95% of the legislature being lawyers, this is what America gets.

  • Anonymous

    “You cannot serve both God and money.”
    — Yeah, but you’d never know that from watching [most] televangelists…
    ——- And the behavior of most of our Christianist politicians tells us who they serve…

  • Anonymous

    One version of the events can be discarded: the Israeli version. There are no “accidental” or “mistaken” attacks in international waters.

  • cannotvote

    I’ll agree with you that Jews didn’t exist back in the Abrahamic days, the word jew was coined in the 19th century( that is researchable). But the premise that the Bible is a basis for any argument, or in fact any of the Abrahamic religions to be so applied – is twaddle as they are the works of Man and not the works of some fabled deity. If one uses anything religious as argument, to determine land rights, either for or against, then there is a problem – as there is!
    What you call the holyland, has a rich tapestry of cultures that have had a continually changing spiritual root. From before Mithra or Zoroaster to more modern concepts – and still it’s changing – that is part of culture, that culture has sub-cultures and those sub cultures evolve other sub cultures and it spirals into a melange of deceptions, woven by the supposedly ‘enlightened’ to control their adherents – hence religion is politics – in base form! So when a bomb is dropped by a religion it comes from their god!

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure that Carter would gladly pay the $5 million provided that it would constitute the last of the greenbacks being shipped to Israel. I’m not against giving a little help to poorer nations, but I am against giving a lot of help to richer ones. At this point, Israel should be helping us.

  • Anonymous

    Definitely not, sojoloco. The first political Zionists were European Jews. It needs to be understood that “Zionism” is an old idea, but originally, not a political one. The phrase used by many of Europe’s bitterly oppressed Jews was, “Next year, in Jerusalem.” It was more of a sigh, and emotional response, a desire for oppression to end. It DID NOT mean that the Jews wanted to actually LIVE in Jerusalem, just that they wished for the abuse to end. Political Zionism, a late 19th century concept was the beginning of the idea of an actual Jewish homeland. Several geographic locations were considered over the ensuing decades=–South America, Uganda, and yes, even Alaska!!!! It was only following WW1 that a group of self-appointed Jewish leaders approached Britain’s Lord Balfour offering to solve “Europe’s Jewish problem,” if the Brits would “give” them Palestine–an appalling bit of racism on their own part! Palestine, formerly part of the Ottoman Empire and provided safe haven for jews for many, many years. The Ziionists returned the favor by murdering thousands and chasing the rest from their land!

  • Anonymous

    A typical bullying Zionist response, n3542576. Notice, everyone, how the racist Zionists are never able to argue with content, all they ever do is bring out the lame and timeworn charge of anti-Jewish racism. They spit on me and accuse me of being a “self-hating Jew”. There is absolutely no integrity to their arguments. Free yourselves from the grip of these dangerous people, they will bring America down!

  • Anonymous

    I would argue that no “nation” founded in the 20th century on terrorism and the illegal theft of land can ever be considered “once proud.” Even Albert Einstein publicly deplored the establishment of the racist, colonialist Zionist state!

  • http://ray032.com/ Ray Joseph Cormier

    And the Lord said to him, Now do you Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.
    You fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?
    But rather give alms of such things as you have; and, behold, all things are clean to you.
    But woe to you, Pharisees! for you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought you to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
    Woe to you, Pharisees! for you love the uppermost seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets.
    Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.
    Then answered one of the lawyers, and said to him, Master, thus saying you reproach us also.
    And he said, Woe to you also, you lawyers! for you lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and you yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
    Woe to you! for you build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.
    Truly you bear witness that you allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and you build their sepulchres.
    Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:
    That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;
    From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say to you, It shall be required of this generation.
    Woe to you, lawyers! for you have taken away the key of knowledge: you entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in you hindered.
    And as he said these things to them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:
    Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.
    Luke 11.

  • http://ray032.com/ Ray Joseph Cormier

    What did he do? He blamed God and the woman. The woman blamed the serpent.

    Is that all you got out of the whole comment?

    Too bad you don’t think!

  • Johnny Warbucks

    How very honorable of you to stand up and defend pigs. And I don’t mean the kind that go oink, oink. I’m sure they appreciate your gallant effort and will soon be sending you all check all the way from Tel Aviv. Till then, I think you best keep your mouth shot whilst you wish to continue putting your foot in it.

  • http://ray032.com/ Ray Joseph Cormier

    Cannotvote, I appreciate your comments but the 1st reference to JEWS in the Book is in 2 Kings 25:25, approximately 2800 years ago.

    But it came to pass in the seventh month, that Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, the son of Elishama, of the seed royal, came, and ten men with him, and smote Gedaliah, that he died, and the Jews and the Chaldees that were with him at Mizpah.
    And all the people, both small and great, and the captains of the armies, arose, and came to Egypt: for they were afraid of the Chaldees.

    .

  • Johnny Warbucks

    If nothing else, WikiLeaks has shown that the entire world – the Nordic/Germanic/Scandinavian countries not being an exception – is playing footsie under the table with the US. The only hope for coming out from under that spell is for the Empire to collapse. That will be coming to a theater near you sooner rather than later.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Sorry, forgot to comment on the NTY piece. The poor Egyptians don’t know it but they’ve been screwed again. The game is over. It was over the day the thugs were unleashed on them. How very, very sad!

  • Anonymous

    I defend only those four-footed ones that go oink oink.
    That you wish to extend that defense to humans you call pigs is your complex – not mine.

  • Anonymous

    No.
    I also made the point that stupidity is eternal bliss.
    Did you miss that — deliberately?

  • Roberthe

    If using hate speech against someone one dislikes, or even despises, is fun then that individual is probably close to being a mirror image of his enemy. As far as the ME becoming less of an annoyance and a liability (doesn’t genocide roll so lightly off the tongue!), why do you assume once the nuclear genie is out of its lamp it isn’t going to proceed to light up the entire globe? There are indications of several nuclear weapons unaccounted for following the collapse of the USSR. Even without any missing weapons, wars tend to spread beyond their initial borders with the ease of fire. And as far as being annoyances and liabilities: Don’t you think America is high up, if not number one, on many people’s lists? Call me old-fashioned, but between peace (especially a just peace) and war, peace remains more appealing.

  • http://smugmug.com/other/anoceanapart Maheanuu

    Here is a list of material to read and understand the situation. There was a lot of cover ups going on after this debacle.

    http://www.rense.com/general39/pilot.htm

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6690425.stm?lsm

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html

    With those as a start you may be able to see exactly how Israel operates. I for one, will never trust an Israeli. They are Charlatans to the core. Criminals foisted on the entire world. Israel still needs to pay it’s debts to those it killed and maimed in the past and probably in the future also. If israel were to cease to exist tomorrow, the world would be a hell of a lot better off.

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ hounddogg

    i have read them i want you to cut and paste what you think are comments hateful to Jews…is that too much to ask?…your answer “read all the comments” is akin to when Palin was asked what she read for news and she said “all of them”…

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ hounddogg

    cut and paste the freakin comments dude…you are the one who has the burden of proof!!!..

  • Anonymous

    Sorry–shootin’ from the hip–I meant to write “first American Christians were Zionists”. What I was attempting to point out was that many of the earliest Christian settlers supported a “return of the jews to the Holy Land” as a result of their understanding of the Bible. Settling back into that land was a precondition for the 2nd coming (of Christ) and therefore a desirable circumstance. Sort of helped make the US receptive to political Zionism…

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Ok, I’m quite done here. With every comment, the inanity intensifies. You can carry on alone if you wish.

  • Stephen Martin

    I think the lawsuit is without merit. Suing someone because they have an opposing or different perspective is trying to silence them via the courts. Do that in another country and meanwhile let someone with far more hands on experience in this matter have his say. These guys with the lawsuit should shut the fuck up and let US decide what we can or cannot read. They deserve nothing. Jimmy Carter has valuable insights. These men seem to like the treadmill of repeated and failed methods to deal with what has been a perpetual problem. If they really want a solution, it’s time to shut up and listen….and maybe read.

  • cannotvote

    You are mistaken the word Jew was not coined until the 1800s – http://www.overlordsofchaos.com/html/origin_of_the_word_jew.html
    Whether they be talmudists or whatever – they have since become whatever they wish to call themselves and are just a peoples with a bunch of old scriptures they wrote or borrowed etc… they are semites but then so are the Palestinians and most of what are now called Arabs. Some say – There is no Truth, just the Power of your Convictions!

    Have you read the Gospel of Mary, or any of the Gnostic texts, they were seemingly heretical in the day of lets say AD 325-ish – probably written closer to the time of jesus’s actual life time – than the more recent later gospels. http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html
    Either way the peoples that call themselves jews don’t really have a right to dispossess the indigenous Peoples of what is called by some as the holy land – that is a consequence of zionism and the fracas’s initiated by Theodore Herzl and is a political movement. Then there’s the jewish oblast in Russia – another attempt at a formation of an Israel!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast – all very interesting!

  • cannotvote

    Sometimes a good lancing can accelerate the pustulence!

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    Or better yet against the little boy bush’s “Delusion Points”.

  • Anonymous

    Well. some are bowing to US pressure more willingly than others, and some are bowing much lower. And some have more to lose than others – though some of those merely think they do. It’ll take me more time to better sort out which is which.

    My government has been sticking their blade in me for half a century – (possibly longer, though I can’t speak for my first few years).

    With a bit of good luck – (just for a change) – I’ll be watching the collapse from a distance. (That’s why I’m trying to sort out which nations are how deeply and willingly involved with this sleazy government.) I’m looking at several countries – and unpacking my old German textbooks, just in case it goes in that direction. (Probably not Germany – and most certainly not Switzerland! – but one of the other German-speaking lands.) Then it’s on to researching their policies on political asylum….

    You came from elsewhere, didn’t you? Would you ever consider leaving? Or are you still set on working to reclaim this government from the thieves and loonies that have taken it over?

    As for Egypt: Do those poor sods really think they have an honest chance? I’d like to think they do – (that we all do) – but I have serious doubts. The US government has been waging war on the liberals and/or secularists – but they won’t accept the religious fanatics, either. Nor would their neighbors’ governments.

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    But that is a measure of the competition; nixon?, ford?, reagan?, daddy bush of the cia?, clinton?, little bushjunior? the current occupant? The only one who may have had anything up on him was Lyndon Johnson. Carter was one of the best of a pretty sad lot. Most were marginal competence, a couple may be outright fascists selling us out.

  • cannotvote

    The history of the ADL – http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_data/history/zionism/news.php?q=1285088873
    These are the attack dogs, odd really but interesting enough, though I’m sure they’ll deny it, which of course is their right.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    You forgot the ones that are dying to jump into the US pockets though but, for some reason, the US won’t let them.

    You’re doing the same thing I’m doing. I’ve gone a bit further and actually contacted some regarding immigration but it’s proving to be more difficult than you think. As I understand, things are good in Germany. Low unemployment, healthy economy, good benefits for the workers. What more can you ask for? I looked into Norway but it’s incredibly expensive, believe it or not, more so than the US. Their immigration laws seem to be a bit easier to circumnavigate.

    Hell! I don’t give a rat’s ass about this country so don’t look at me to reclaiming anything I didn’t hvae to begin with. This is the most inhospitable place on the face of the Earth, much more so than the Sahara Dessert or the North Pole.

    I don’t think the poor Egyptians have a chance. The Dark Forces are diligently at work ensuring that and they will win. They always win! So, for now, I’m riding their wave of revolution. It’s an exhilarating ride, even if from far away. That would be a good place to go if the political winds changed for them. After all the political upheaval I’ve been thru in my life, what I’m looking for to end my days is on the inside not the outside and these folks seem to have it all there. Like you, I would like to watch the empire fall from as far away as possible, where I can’t get splashed. But time is running out.

  • http://ray032.com/ Ray Joseph Cormier

    My personal reference Bible was printed in 1855, the same edition on which Presidents Lincoln and Obama took their Oath of Office, and the 1st mention of Jews is in 2 Kings 25:25

    Other than that I have no issue with the rest of your comment.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, looks as though I am actually further ahead than you. I looked into immigration policies some time ago. I’m far too old for the best nations. I fell short of points for New Zealand and was foolish (or rather ignorant) enough to drop it there.

    Forget immigration! Look at political asylum. There are counties that recognize how far right the US government has moved, and who realize that a true progressive can face intense bigotry here. And many of them would welcome more progressives. (They surely beat some of the refugees they’ve accepted.) [I had a friend who had a friend in another country. Neither was gay - (I was told and found no reason to disbelieve) - but my friend's friend offered to pretend to be more than just his friend and managed to get him in as his gay partner. Boy, you've got to be a damned good friend to be wiling to rewrite your next five years or so that way.]

    A public board isn’t the place to share info of this kind.

  • Anonymous

    Publicity stunt?

  • Anonymous

    Exactly, I know Carter to be a author of many books but I missed this one; now thanks to this press (any advertising is good advertising) I will go out and buy it!

  • Anonymous

    Yet another of the many reasons to boycott Israel!

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, forgot: as to Germany: it’s not a bad place, and what you say is true enough – but they are more dependent on the US government as an employer than I’d like. The place is littered with US military bases:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Army_installations_in_Germany
    German unemployment is better than the average for the European Union, but there are countries with even better rates – and without the US military’s direct help.

    Just finished an argument on another thread with some cretin.. He claimed he’d escaped to a civilized country: Russia. Yeah, I retorted, the civilized country where reporters critical of the government faced possible execution. [There were a lot more things I could have said...] He repsonded with a list of transgressions made by the US. Then tried to call me both uneducated and a hick. [I demolished both, and he finally went away.]

    Why the hell do people think that criticizing another country automatically suggests that one assumes one’s is superior? or that one has to defend one’s nation – or one’s anything – by attacking others? Is it really such a difficult concept that every nation – (or anyone/ anything else) – ought to be judged on its own record? I don’t care where the US would be ranked, if one were (able) to judge all nations. All I care about is that it is far too evil for my liking – and it doesn’t matter how many may be as bad or worse.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FONW6K3ZWV4BU4ZTCDCSZHHH6E Mick Jagger

    What a piece of crap these people are…are they going to sue me now too? What a bunch of whining pieces of garbage…now they want to order us what to think and tell us what to say. What about freedom of speech? No wonder every one despises Israel these days.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FONW6K3ZWV4BU4ZTCDCSZHHH6E Mick Jagger

    It’s Israeli tech companies that have everyones phones tapped.

  • Elim

    They could see the flag flying, clearly. The pilots of the planes didn’t like it one bit. I don’t know what the torpedo boat sailors thought. But all were instructed to lie, and they did, like good little chosen people.

  • Anonymous

    Either that or the publisher has launched a sneaky marketing campaign.

  • http://www.amazon.com/Debating-Holocaust-Look-Both-Sides/dp/1591480051/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_2 Michael Santomauro

    “Don’t Take Two Trips to Auschwitz I’m Still Suing you in the Morning”

    Apparently the old ”cure ” for the disease of anti-Semitism was to send the offending sufferers to Auschwitz in much the same way that people with incurable diseases are sent to Lourdes. Now it is to sue for millions of dollars, even when the criticism of Jewish behavior is constructive! And for the insistent request for an apology from Jimmy Carter for writing the truth, is anyone keeping track of all the public people who have ”apologized” to the Jews in recent years? Let’s see, there was Brando, Billy Graham, Dolly Parton, Rep. Moran, Andrew Young, General Brown etc. ad nauseum. And while we are at it, can any one come up with the name of a single Jew who, as a Jew, has ever apologized to anyone for anything? –Michael Santomauro

  • Anonymous

    Centuries old stereotype. Do you feel better now? I got 18 likes on my “stupid” comment.

  • Schmice

    BFD.

  • Schmice

    hahahahahaha

  • Anonymous

    equally likely — Israel will completely turn on US and throw US under the bus.

    Remember, Israel and Iran were bff s all the way through the Shah’s regime and even while Khomeinin was in power and Israel was selling (defective) weapons by the cargo-plane-load to Iran, who paid cash. Israel also had an oil shipment deal going with Iran, that flowed $$$ into Israeli coffers. When the money stopped flowing to Israel, THAT is when Israel turned on Iran.

    Take a lesson US.

  • Anonymous

    are you aware that your US government has contributed $16 million toward “badly needed” renovations at Auschwitz, including preserving tattered leather shoes?

  • Anonymous

    So compelling.Well,you just acknowledge what you want and ignore that it’s a stereotype and not my point of view.

  • Anonymous

    because lawsuits or threats of lawsuits have worked very well for zionists for generations.

    Henry Ford’s “International Jew” was an important, extensively — and expensively — research book, but the same organization that is suing Carter hounded Henry Ford, destroyed almost all books in print, to the extent of sneaking into libraries & destroying library copies of International Jew. Google “International Jew;” look for it on Amazon. It’s a reasonable book and argument — but ZOA managed to suppress it.

    If, in 1920, Americans had been allowed to become aware of what Henry Ford learned and printed in “International Jew,” we might all be a lot better off today. My Dad might not have lost his life in WWII.

  • Anonymous

    For who?

  • Anonymous

    Well said.

  • Anonymous

    equally likely — Israel will completely turn on US and throw US under the bus.

    Remember, Israel and Iran were bff s all the way through the Shah’s regime and even while Khomeinin was in power and Israel was selling (defective) weapons by the cargo-plane-load to Iran, who paid cash. Israel also had an oil shipment deal going with Iran, that flowed $$$ into Israeli coffers. When the money stopped flowing to Israel, THAT is when Israel turned on Iran.

    and — Dennis Ross chaired a committee that, in 2004, said, Hey, US is going to go down, China’s on the rise; let’s start cozying up to China. (see JPPPI – Solomon Wald on China-Jewish relations)

    low and behold, with Egypt protest heating up, Jews in Israel are saying, “Obama stabbed Mubarak in the back, and he’s already turned against Israel once. If he makes us uncomfortable again, we can always ally with China or India.”

    Take a lesson US.

  • Anonymous

    do NOT DO NOT underestimate their power or their viciousness. This is not a lark, it will not go away, its intent is to chill any author or publishing house that would have the temerity to tell the truth about PIsrael.

    AND, the US State Department now has an office to monitor antisemitism. That’s right. It won’t be long until an American who defends American interest against the predations of Israel can be punished by the US State Department for doing so!!

  • Schmice

    Of course it’s your point of view. Don’t hide it. 18 likes? 18? That’s it? Out of thousands of RS readers you just got 18? Hahahahahahahaha.

  • Jaimie11

    First of all Jews are not responsible for the state of the geopolitical world – Zionists are. Maybe you should get your politics straightened up so that you can identify distinct groups and associate them with their actions more accurately. Your freedom of speech in the US has been vigorously defended by plenty of Jews because Jews have comprised large majorities in the activist community, fighting for constitutional rights, civil rights, and humane treatment of people all over the world. Jews have contributed enormously to all the sciences, the arts, thinking, invention, medicine, etc, etc.

    Zionists are not exclusively Jewish. Some are, but Jews comprise a minority of the world’s population, and Zionists are members of most other religions, races, nationalities and ethnic groups as well.

    Your racism is possibly a little indulgence you allow yourself. Racism is easy. Hatred of any group because of their religion, their race, or any characteristic they share as a group, is so much easier than doing the homework that not being racist requires.

    You, my friend, should apologize to all the Jews who are not Zionists, and to those Israeli Jews who have been active for years in an Israeli peace and justice movement that is disregarded by their government just as such movements in the US are ignored by ours.

  • Anonymous

    WHY are you bible-punching us?
    Do you think we don’t have bibles or that we can’t read?

  • Anonymous

    Do you know why your keyboard has a “Caps Lock” key — on the far left?

  • Anonymous

    Bible thumping does not pass for intelligent debate.

  • http://ray032.com/ Ray Joseph Cormier

    Bible punching? What are you talking about? No matter what anyone writes here, no one can be forced to read the comment, reply or click on like.

    Many people have not read the Bible, do not own one, and have no clue what’s written between the covers. If you have one, read the rest of Isaiah 1 and Matthew 23. It just might open your eyes and heart. Peace

  • Anonymous

    Are you under the impression that 1855 is before the 1800′s ??
    Just curious.

  • http://ray032.com/ Ray Joseph Cormier

    To bad you don’t have the intelligence to debate as you thump your exasperation over printed words and ideas.

  • Anonymous

    Well then.
    On behalf of all those readers who don’t have a bible and are curious to know what’s in it and haven’t thought to Google it!… Thank you – I suppose.

  • Anonymous

    But those aren’t your ideas and words I’m thumping – they’re some other ancient old dead phart’s. Perhaps – if you tried smaller, shorter (lots of smaller shorter) pearls of wisdom I’d actually read them ….

  • Anonymous

    Interesting defense technique.Regressing into a two year old.Well played.

  • http://www.amazon.com/Debating-Holocaust-Look-Both-Sides/dp/1591480051/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_2 Michael Santomauro

    Wall Street—the pinnacle of American-Zionist financial power. Hedge fund managers making literally $5 billion per year, while 43 million Americans are on food stamps. Half of all workers earn less than $500 per week. One in six Americans are in a federal anti-poverty program. Nearly 85% of people hate their jobs, and want to change, but can’t. The richest 1% take home 24% of all income. The 30,000 employees of Goldman-Sachs earned a total of $11.4 billion last year—an average of $770,000 per person.

    Washington—where every major action and every major decision centers on the concerns of the Jewish community. Washington, where the Jewish Lobby reigns supreme, thanks to their omnipresence and ability to give millions of dollars to campaign funds. Literally 90% of Congress yields without question to AIPAC, the Jewish Council of Presidents, and Zionist money (evidence: during the Gaza massacre two years ago, 390 of 435 Congressmen [89.7%] voted to support Israel). Democrats and Republicans, Republicans and Democrats, guilty alike.

    President Obama—friend of the Jews, the man who said “my closeness to the Jewish American community was probably what propelled me to the Senate,” the man who chose the self-named “Zionist” Joe Biden as his second-in-command. Obama, who said, “If you are waiting for America to distance itself from Israel, you are delusional”—God forbid that we should “distance” ourselves from a criminal, apartheid, illegitimate state. Obama, the “true friend of Israel,” a nation who’s security is “sacrosanct” in his mind. Obama—the Judenknecht, the Jew-slave.

    Congress—535 millionaires, 90% of whom take Jewish-PAC money: 35% for the Republican party and 60% for the Democratic party get their total funding from one ethnie-Jewish Americans. Congress—Democrats and Republicans, Republicans and Democrats alike—who support an eternal ‘war on terror’ which is nothing less than a war on the enemies of Israel: a war that costs Americans over $1 trillion per year, and a military/security machine that consumes more than 40% of actual income.

    Six million Jewish-Americans should not exercise overwhelming and decisive influence on a nation of 310 million; this is an elementary fact of democracy that any 4th-grader could understand. And have no doubt: the vast majority of American Jews exercise their privilege in ways small and large. Directly so in institutions where Jews predominate: government, media, entertainment, finance, medicine, law, academia. Indirectly so in many other areas, due to leverage from advertisers, financial backers, and favorable legislation. Even your ‘average Jew’ will call in the ADL, file complaints against neighbors and colleagues, and surreptitiously act to defend Jewish interests. And nearly every American Jew is an explicit or implicit Zionist.

  • http://www.amazon.com/Debating-Holocaust-Look-Both-Sides/dp/1591480051/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_2 Michael Santomauro

    POST SCRIPT FOR Jaimie11:

    PS: An anti-semite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an anti-semite.–Michael Santomauro

    Jaimie11 says: “Jews have contributed enormously to all the sciences, the arts, thinking, invention, medicine, etc, etc.”

    The implication here is that anti-Semitism is the result of Jewish intellect. Historically it has been as a result of resource competition, belief in a moral and intellectual superiority and a fierce policy of non assimilation with the host countries which initially offered them admittance with friendliness. Anti-Semitism is not in any way a mental illness.

    Western Civilization is a European-white accomplishment and Judaism has always been an appendage. Not the other way around.

    We are a better world today because Western Civilization took the road to Athens over the road to Jerusalem.

    Peace.
    Michael Santomauro
    ReporterNotebook@gmail.com

  • Anonymous

    The Goldstone Reported concluded that both Israel and the insurgents committed war crimes and crimes against humanity. In 19th century USA, the American Indian endured a genocidal Apartheid; did the US teach the Israeli people to behave in a similar manner? Hitler was inspired to his evil plan because of those 19th century US actions. Long ago, many Americans thought Israel was a nation of honor and laws, but Israeli actions over decades have proven otherwise. Israeli courts continue to fail to prosecute the crimes committed by their soldiers. An Israeli Captain at a checkpoint once emptied his machine gun into the body of a lost young Palestinian girl. He said he was the commander and he meant it when he said if even a baby was there, they were to be killed. This is genocide. Why don’t people see this? Israel has a long history of Apartheid behaviors. Yet, Israel continues to fight will full conviction that they are not that way. Why do they lie to the world? If you are a Palestinian and forced to endure those Apartheid injustices, then it will be only a matter of time before one develops an intense hatred of one’s oppressors.

  • Anonymous

    The Goldstone Reported concluded that both Israel and the insurgents committed war crimes and crimes against humanity. In 19th century USA, the American Indian endured a genocidal Apartheid; did the US teach the Israeli people to behave in a similar manner? Hitler was inspired to his evil plan because of those 19th century US actions. Long ago, many Americans thought Israel was a nation of honor and laws, but Israeli actions over decades have proven otherwise. Israeli courts continue to fail to prosecute the crimes committed by their soldiers. An Israeli Captain at a checkpoint once emptied his machine gun into the body of a lost young Palestinian girl. He said he was the commander and he meant it when he said if even a baby was there, they were to be killed. This is genocide. Why don’t people see this? Israel has a long history of Apartheid behaviors. Yet, Israel continues to fight will full conviction that they are not that way. Why do they lie to the world? If you are a Palestinian and forced to endure those Apartheid injustices, then it will be only a matter of time before one develops an intense hatred of one’s oppressors.

  • Jaimie11

    The road to Jerusalem was never the goal of the majority of Jews worldwide, let alone in Europe. That was a primarily Christian idea promoted since before William the Conqueror to effect the expulsion of Jews from Britain.

    “Historically it has been as a result of resource competition, belief in a moral and intellectual superiority and a fierce policy of non assimilation with the host countries”

    This is a fabrication repeated so as to incite hatred of Jews. It complements a stereotype of Jews as being higher IQ than other people, their high IQ makes them crafty and shrewd and therefore dishonest.

    Of course, Jews are not higher IQ than other groups. That is an appearance due to their higher success rates in general. That success comes out of their very strong family structure and their NON-literal interpretations of their scriptures. Their family culture emphasizes critical thinking and doing good in the world. “You” are of that group who regards them as “superior”. That is not their position at all. Like members of all other cultures on the globe, exactly like you Michael, they often do not live up to their potential. People who value peaceful coexistence of the world’s population do not advocate hate against any group at all including Jews.

    As for Zionists. If you cared about the corruption Zionism has engendered in today’s world, then expose ALL the Zionists, Protestant, Catholic, etc., not just the Jewish ones.

    When you blame Jews only you are asserting that YOUR kind is above corruption, has never been involved in perfidy, is superior. You are blaming all of human fallibility on one of the smallest minority groups in the world. Convenient scapegoat – those dirty Jews!

  • Jaimie11

    For the sake of argument, let me agree with all your premises. Now, what is your plan to ameliorate the problem or to solve it altogether?

  • http://www.amazon.com/Debating-Holocaust-Look-Both-Sides/dp/1591480051/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_2 Michael Santomauro

    Dear Jaimie11:

    Why re-invent the wheel his answer is my answer to your question:

    Liberating America From Israel

    About the author
    Paul Findley, a U.S. Congressional Representative from Illinois 1961-83, is the author of three books related to the Middle East, including They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel’s Lobby (1985) and, most recently, Silent No More: Confronting America’s False Images of Islam. He resides in Jacksonville, Illinois. This essay was issued on Sept. 12, 2002.

    By Paul Findley

    Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused to help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this conclusion publicly, but many believe it is the truth. I believe the catastrophe could have been prevented if any U.S. president during the past 35 years had had the courage and wisdom to suspend all U.S. aid until Israel withdrew from the Arab land seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

    The U.S. lobby for Israel is powerful and intimidating, but any determined president — even President Bush this very day — could prevail and win overwhelming public support for the suspension of aid by laying these facts before the American people:

    Israel’s present government, like its predecessors, is determined to annex the West Bank — biblical Judea and Sumaria — so Israel will become Greater Israel. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, who maintain a powerful role in Israeli politics, believe the Jewish Messiah will not come until Greater Israel is a reality. Although a minority in Israel, they are committed, aggressive, and influential. Because of deep religious conviction, they are determined to prevent Palestinians from gaining statehood on any part of the West Bank.

    In its violent assaults on Palestinians, Israel uses the pretext of eradicating terrorism, but its forces are actually engaged advancing the territorial expansion just cited. Under the guise of anti-terrorism, Israeli forces treat Palestinians worse than cattle. With due process nowhere to be found, hundreds are detained for long periods and most are tortured. Some are assassinated. Homes, orchards, and business places are destroyed. Entire cities are kept under intermittent curfew, some confinements lasting for weeks. Injured or ill Palestinians needing emergency medical care are routinely held at checkpoints for an hour or more. Many children are undernourished. The West Bank and Gaza have become giant concentration camps. None of this could have occurred without U.S. support. Perhaps Israeli officials believe life will become so unbearable that most Palestinians will eventually leave their ancestral homes.

    Once beloved worldwide, the U.S. government finds itself reviled in most countries because it provides unconditional support of Israeli violations of the United Nations Charter, international law, and the precepts of all major religious faiths.

    How did the American people get into this fix?

    Nine-eleven had its principal origin 35 years ago when Israel’s U.S. lobby began its unbroken success in stifling debate about the proper U.S. role in the Arab-Israeli conflict and effectively concealed from public awareness the fact that the U.S. government gives massive uncritical support to Israel.

    Thanks to the suffocating influence of Israel’s U.S. lobby, open discussion of the Arab-Israeli conflict has been non-existent in our government all these years. I have firsthand knowledge, because I was a member of the House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee in June 1967 when Israeli military forces took control of the Golan Heights, a part of Syria, as well as the Palestinian West Bank and Gaza. I continued as a member for 16 years, and to this day maintain a close watch on Congress.

    For 35 years, not a word has been expressed in that committee or in either chamber of Congress that deserves to be called debate on Middle East policy. No restrictive or limiting amendments on aid to Israel have been offered for 20 years, and none of the few offered in previous years received more than a handful of votes. On Capitol Hill, criticism of Israel, even in private conversation, is all but forbidden, treated as downright unpatriotic, if not anti-Semitic. The continued absence of free speech was assured when those few who spoke out — Senators Adlai Stevenson and Charles Percy, and Reps. Paul “Pete” McCloskey, Cynthia McKinney, Earl Hilliard, and myself — were defeated at the polls by candidates heavily financed by pro-Israel forces.

    As a result, legislation dealing with the Middle East has been heavily biased in favor of Israel and against Palestinians and other Arabs year after year. Home constituencies, misled by news coverage equally lop-sided in Israel’s favor, remain largely unaware that Congress behaves as if it were a subcommittee of the Israeli parliament.

    However, the bias is widely noted beyond America, where most news media candidly cover Israel’s conquest and generally excoriate America’s complicity and complacency. When President Bush welcomed Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, sometimes called the Butcher of Beirut, as “my dear friend” and “a man of peace” after Israeli forces, using U.S.-donated arms, completed their devastation of the West Bank last spring, worldwide anger against American policy reached the boiling point.

    The fury should surprise no one who reads foreign newspapers or listens to BBC. In several televised statements long before 9/11, Osama bin Laden, believed by U.S. authorities to have masterminded 9/11, cited U.S. complicity in Israel’s destruction of Palestinian society as a principal complaint. Prominent foreigners, in and out of government, express their opposition to U.S. policies with unprecedented frequency and severity, especially since Bush announced his determination to make war against Iraq.

    The lobby’s intimidation remains pervasive. It seems to reach every government center, and even houses of worship and revered institutions of higher learning. It is highly effective in silencing the many U.S. Jews who object to the lobby’s tactics and Israel’s brutality.

    Nothing can justify 9/11. Those guilty deserve maximum punishment, but it makes sense for America to examine motivations promptly and as carefully as possible. Terrorism almost always arises from deeply-felt grievances. If they can be eradicated or eased, terrorist passions are certain to subside.

    Today, a year after 9/11, President Bush has made no attempt to redress grievances, or even to identify them. In fact, he has made the scene far worse by supporting Israel’s religious war against Palestinians, an alliance that has intensified anti-American anger. He seems oblivious to the fact that nearly two billion people worldwide regard the plight of Palestinians as today’s most important foreign-policy challenge.

    No one in authority will admit a calamitous reality that is skillfully shielded from the American people but clearly recognized by most of the world: America suffered 9/11 and its aftermath and may soon be at war with Iraq, mainly because U.S. policy in the Middle East is made in Israel, not in Washington.

    Israel is a scofflaw nation and should be treated as such. Instead of helping Sharon intensify Palestinian misery, our president should suspend all aid until Israel ends its occupation of Arab land Israel seized in 1967. The suspension would force Sharon’s compliance or lead to his removal from office, as the Israeli electorate will not tolerate a prime minister who is at odds with the White House.

    If Bush needs an additional reason for doing the right thing, he can justify the suspension as a matter of military necessity, an essential step in winning international support for his war on terrorism. He can cite a worthy precedent. When President Abraham Lincoln issued the proclamation that freed only the slaves in states that were then in rebellion, he made the restriction because of “military necessity.” If Bush suspends U.S. aid, he will liberate all Americans from long years of bondage to Israel’s misdeeds.

  • http://www.amazon.com/Debating-Holocaust-Look-Both-Sides/dp/1591480051/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_2 Michael Santomauro

    Dear Jaimie11:

    When I said:

    “Historically it has been as a result of resource competition, belief in a moral and intellectual superiority and a fierce policy of non assimilation with the host countries”

    I was not saying anything about IQ or that I was believing such a claim that Jews make about themselves. SEE LINK:

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/01/are-jews-smarter/

    KMD SAYS: There’s an article on Jewish intelligence from 2005 in New York, “Are Jews Smarter,” by Jennifer Senior. It’s a story of the good, the bad, and the ugly. Senior identifies herself as Jewish with the result that, as always, there is a tension between pride in Jewish intelligence and accomplishment and fear that there might be negative consequences if people buy into the idea that Jewish intelligence results in Jews being better able to pursue their interests and, in particular, being better able to influence culture and the political process in a way that conflicts with the interests of non-Jews.

    The general tone of the article can be seen from her statement that “Ascribing an ethnic or racial explanation to any trait more ambiguous than skin color is by definition a dangerous idea, the kind of notion that can seep into the political arena with disastrous consequences.”

    The focus of the article is Harpending and Cochran’s study of Ashkenazi IQ. Senior is amazingly dismissive of the article: “The paper contained references, but no footnotes. It was not written in the genteel, dispassionate voice common to scientific inquiries but as a polemic. Its science was mainly conjecture.” Now I have problems with C&H’s approach too, but it’s ridiculous to describe their paper as conjecture or as polemic. And standard procedure in the hard sciences is to use references, not footnotes. The article does mention the main point that several Jewish genetic diseases are associated with IQ and brain metabolism and that they are exceedingly unlikely to have come together in the Ashkenazi population by chance. But Senior doesn’t mention the overwhelming evidence that in general IQ is highly heritable and that a great many other genes contribute to IQ–probably hundreds. The genetic basis of IQ goes far beyond the few genes for genetic diseases found at unusually high levels among the Ashkenazim.

    In fact, she doesn’t even take the idea of intelligence seriously, making the idiotic comment that “intelligence isn’t even possible to define, except maybe in the sense that Justice Potter Stewart famously said of porn: He knew it when he saw it.”

    In other words, let’s just throw out a century of research on the validity and reliability of IQ testing as well as research on the biological basis of IQ. And never mind the long history of behavior genetic studies showing a very substantial heritability for IQ–whether Jewish or not.

    On the other hand, the article does cite genetic data indicating that race is more than simply a social construction. Now race realists have always known this, but it’s nice to see it in a popular magazine. Ironically, she makes it sound like the biological basis of race is a recent discovery made possible by the work of Jewish scientists.

    During the past year, the taboos surrounding the genetics of race and ethnicity have been significantly eroded, in no small part because of the efforts of Risch. A population geneticist at the University of California at San Francisco, a fiercely independent thinker, a fun gossip, and a liberal Jew, he published a paper in the American Journal of Human Genetics in February that rather boldly claimed that the races we claimed to be almost always corresponded with our continents of ancestry. It seemed to represent the consensus view that’s slowly emerging among geneticists. Many have now stopped quarreling with the same vigor about whether race is or is not a genetic fact.

    The science of race is presented as a conversation among Jewish scientists. (Incidentally, she cites IQ data showing that Jews are almost 6 times more likely to have an IQ over 140 than northern Europeans, but even if true, it would imply that there are a great many more northern Europeans than Jews in that range.)

    Then another Jewish scientist is quoted:

    “I am not sure that most geneticists have agreed to ‘races’ per se,” says Ostrer. “But continental groups or clusters, yes.” To deny these clusters, he says, would be folly; it tells us to willfully ignore what all of us can see—that people look different all over the world. He quotes me a line from Jews: A Study in Race and Environment, written by his NYU predecessor, Maurice Fishberg: “One can pick out a Jew from among a thousand non-Jews without difficulty.” Ostrer is now writing a book himself, about genetics and Jewish history. He has decided to call the first chapter “Looking Jewish.”

    Not races but clusters?? Now there’s a new discovery! I rather doubt that anyone who has believed in the reality of race ever thought anything else. But it’s nice to see Fishberg’s work on looking Jewish taken seriously.

    Population geneticist David Goldstein has a nice comment on self-censorship by geneticists on the topic of race–without noting the role of Jewish social scientists, particularly Franz Boas and his followers, in disestablishing scientific study of race and race differences in the West:

    “Until recently, most human geneticists almost . . . disallowed discussion about genetic differences among racial and ethnic groups. Really. So many awful things had been done with genetic research in this last century that they developed a policy of ‘Just say no.’ But there’s actually a lot of difference between groups, when you consider there are 10 million polymorphic sites on the genome. So it’s not scientifically sound to rule out the possibility of differences corresponding to our geographic and ethnic heritages. It overlooks the basic point: The genome is just a huge place.”

    Senior provides a cultural alternative to the genetic theory:

    Yet there are many who’d find a very different way of explaining the intelligence of these patients. They wouldn’t invoke their extra dendrites. They’d invoke their mothers.

    To say that the Jews have a history of emphasizing scholarship is not just the fantasy of ethnic chauvinists and Woody Allen fans. To look at a single page of the Talmud is to understand this, with its main text at the center, its generations of rabbis arguing around the rim. The dialectic and critical reasoning are at its core.

    But the cultural explanation is not really an alternative explanation to the genetic explanation. Eugenic explanations of Jewish intelligence emphasize that Jews who were good at scholarship had a variety of advantages, including good business and marriage prospects (see here). Moreover, behavior geneticists have long known that the environments provided by bright parents are quite different from environments provided by dull parents, and the natural children of these bright parents benefit more from the stimulating environments provided by their natural parents than dull children would.

    Perhaps most revealing about the article is that the entire subtext is not whether there is truth to be had on Jewish intelligence but whether it’s good for the Jews. Sadly, that about sums up the approach of the Jewish intellectual movements reviewed in The Culture of Critique.

    In any case, the topic continues to excite. I just received John Glad’s new book, Jewish Eugenics, and Richard Lynn’s book on Jewish intelligence should be out soon. Best to ignore Senior’s article and use the time on better things.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Yes, I do know that Germany (and Japan) are both flooded with US bases. Is the new way to exert their hegemony upon the world and know all that implies.

    I read der Spiegel often and that’s a good barometer of how things are. In addition to being more economically stable than the rest of their Euro neighbors, they also seem to be more politically stable as well which, these days, is a big plus. If you come across any other good potential ‘new host’ countries, keep me posted, I’m interested. I’ve already done the research on nearly half the world (and then some) and nothing is striking me as a safe bet. Besides, immigration laws are nearly impossible everywhere.

    I feel your the pain of your arguments. I too engage in plenty of those, unfortunately and I don’t even know why. It’s not as if you resolve or accomplish anything. I’m so glad you feel that way about Russia or, rather, that you can see thru the bubble of bullshit being pushed by a faction of thoroughly deluded and mentally deficient on the left who see Communism as the salvation. If you think that was bad, I’ll top it: I was born & raised in Cuba and nearly escaped there with my life. I now have those morons trying to tell me that Cuba is paradise lost and that everything I lived thru (which was the worst the regime had to offer, during the days when we had our own ‘iron curtain’ and nobody could enter or leave the island and it was open season on the citizens) is a lie. They actually thing that, somehow, if they deny my experiences, they are not true. I have been attacked, insulted & even threatened for it. Can you imagine the audacity of these characters? The dishonesty of these types is unbearable and they will go to any extent – except move to Cuba of course – to protect their bubble of idiocy and mental masturbation. I was actually told the other day that even if thing had been bad at one point (something the person firmly disbelieved), I had nothing to worry about anymore because “Castro wasn’t in charge anymore.” Can you believe that? The best part is that I had that conversation with a person at a pro-Egyptian rally. Ha ha ha! Do you get that disconnect? Mubarak is a dictator because he’s in power 30 years because he’s backed by the US but Fidel is in power 52 years, then passes power to his brother (although he’s very much in charge, trust me) and he is not a dictator simply because he’s not backed by the US. Apparently, in their complete delusion, there are only US-backed dictators in this world. Ha ha ha!

    All I have to say, my friend, is that your country is as screwed up as can be and your people are bar none the most self-righteous, delusional, misguided the world has ever known. Once you get out of this madhouse, you will know what I mean.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    I started by looking in Latin America. Always thought that it would be easier for me to make the transition back to a culture and language that are close to mine but quickly realized the political instability of each and every single one of the Latin countries because of US meddling. Many of those countries ( i.e. Costa Rica, Panama), allow retirees in. For as long as you can prove that you are receiving SS or can maintain a bank account in the country (they usually start at about $50,000), they allow in no questions asked. Many others, only require that you purchase property. Again, not sure that’s what you’re looking for. You sound like me and, surely, the insecurity would always be hanging over your heard like a sharp sword.

    I looked into NZ and that was a ‘no cigar’ – they wouldn’t even give me the time of day. I also have to take other things into consideration such as the fact that my teenage is is in his sophomore year in college. Wherever I go, I have to ensure his education. Again, Latin America not a good place for that. However, I may (or may not) have one advantage in my favor which is that I am a Cuban citizen. I came to the US as a political refugee and was granted asylum so I’m not sure how that would play with other countries. You do give me a little bit of hope that there may be other countries willing to consider my political (or rather non-political, political) views. :)

    Your friend’s story…guess how I got out of Cuba? he he he…

    I know public forums are very dangerous. Particularly, when I have my share of “admirers” who are hell-bent on doing away with me. There is one suspect that even takes it upon himself to re-post my comments ad nauseum. So, yeah, I know what you mean all too well. I’ve been there more than once.

  • Anonymous

    Well, from what I have heard and read – (and I don’t pretend to be a student of Latin America bu any stretch of the imagination) – Cuba is a bit short of either Eden or hell.

    It sounds great, the way some ‘lefties’ describe it, but I also recall the wide support the USSR got from lefties here. My response: if you have to build a wall – literally or figuratively – to keep your own people in, then you can’t have a great country. The opposite isn’t as neat: If you have to build a wall to keep others out, two possibilities present themselves: either you’ve got a really good country OR your country simply isn’t as bad as its neighbors on at least one measure. [Take the US: we would have to build a wall to keep Mexicans (and others) out, but Mexico worries about illegal immigrants from their southern neighbors (some of whom are aiming for Mexico as their destination, while others see it only as a route farther north, to the US or, increasingly, Canada).]

    Well, I don’t know how accurate that statement is today, considering Mexico’s soon-to-be-all-out war with its drug cartels.

    I live in Chicago, so I have met a number of people from other lands. Some who have chosen to move here, some who came for university, some who came because of their jobs, and a few who were only on holiday. Needless to say, that gives one a wider – though still slanted – view. Most foreigners would rather not tell a native how lousy his nation is. So many of those visitors or temporary residents might very well feel that the US is no more than ‘a nice place to visit.’ But few would say it. On the other hand, most will talk about their own countries, and sometimes it is possible to tell when they think something there is better or worse than here.

    Bar none? Bar no peoples or bar no individual Americans?

  • Anonymous

    With a teenager, you must really be worried. I am well into my fifties and have no one dependent upon me.

    You on the other hand… Well, my advice is that you work quickly to narrow your search, so that you can get your teen started on a new language ASAP. With Cuban citizenship… have you considered looking at Spain? Even if you didn’t want that as your final destination, I think it would open up the entire EU to you – or at least to your child.

    Hmmn, my guess is that my friend is not alone…

    The problem I have with public comments boards in this case is that too many others would learn the best countries – and I don’t intend to give them the information to elbow me out of the line for my chosen destination(s). Did you not like the idea of going to the address I gave you? (I waited more than long enough for you to get Disqus’ email, then edited it out.) You can always get a hot mail (or other) account, if you want to remain anonymous.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    He is my primary concern right now and ensuring a good education for him. If were alone, I think I would have fled a long time ago. That is the reason why I started looking in the Nordic/Germanic/Scandinavian countries. They all have great universities, free education and are the center of his field of study. They also all allow students and their families on student visas. Norway looked really good until they asked for a $15,000 per year deposit while he was in school.

    I would love to go to either Spain, Italy or Argentina but they are all as broke as the US. Their economies are in shambles and unemployment is rampant. Also, the kid doesn’t speak Spanish. My grandparents were born in the Canary Islands a fact that’s reflected in my birth certificate. I thought that could be a way in but they wouldn’t. Besides, the CI is a desperate step indeed except that it would give us passage into the rest of the EU.

    My problem with forums is that there are public. There are a lot of elements on the prowl just to cause harm. As I explained to you there is one character here in particular that I don’t trust. The individual is up to no good for sure and has already given me ‘warning’ by
    regurgitating entire posts worth of comments that I have made.

    Sorry, I missed that completely but will go back thru e-mails. Have not deleted them. If I can’t find it, I will give you my e-mail.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    …Cuba is a bit short of either Eden or hell.

    The latter, my friend, the latter. The ones that describe it as Eden are the ones who have either never visited or visited for a weekend during which they got laid by gineteras (Cuban prostitutes) who will do the horizontal Mambo in exchange for a bar of soap. I haven’t been able to get to the bottom of the phenomenon but these whackjobs appear to be followers of Michael Moore. Coincidentally, “Sicko” is as sicko as it gets. Fidel punked Michael Moore big time by giving him passage to the “dollar” Cuban healthcare system (no, it’s not a dollar but, rather, it is when people with dollars go to when they need a doctor. Cubans have to go to dives where they even have to provide their own linens). They are rather venomous people too, every bit as delusional, fanatical and dangerous as the Teabaggers.

    My response: if you have to build a wall – literally or figuratively – to keep your own people in, then you can’t have a great country.

    Ah, ha! See, my friend, you are a smart man and you use your head for more than wearing a tinfoil hat (not that I’m accusing you of that…he he). These idiots don’t engage their brains, instead, when you try to point out those inconsistencies to them in an attempt to engage them into rationalizing, they shut you down by the nastiest of way. Such as the woman that told me that “everything should be okay now because Fidel is no longer in charge” – Ha ha!

    I feel Mexico’s pain. I’ve been to Mexico. Beautiful country with beautiful people. They surely don’t deserve what the US has done to them (neither does any other country for that matter).

    It is interesting to talk to people from other lands. Something I enjoy a great deal myself. Good for you for doing that. Most Amerikans feel repulsed by that idea. I should know.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think it takes great intelligence to recognize that any nation that must force its citizens to stay must have real problems. What it does take is the willingness to risk being ostracized. I had a head start: I’ve been ostracized in one way or another – (not to mention ridiculed) – for as long as I can remember. (And that includes by my family.) The other thing it takes is to have your nose rubbed in hypocrisy, particularly that of organized groups.

    I got that from my government early on. And then from the Catholic Church: I was sent to a Catholic grammar school. I was highly suspicious of my government and organized religion before I’d reached my teens. (I had also become an atheist – just in time for preparation for confirmation! I think you can guess how well that worked out for me, at least in the short run.)

    I suppose I’m also just a born cynic. I preferred Bugs Bunny to the Easter Bunny, (while understanding that both were fantasy, of course): Bugs is much more like humans, while the Easter Bunny was utterly alien. Ditto for Santa. I threw him out well before any of my peers. I paid for it in lost Easter baskets and Christmas presents, but I was satisfied that I was being honest – (something the Christians around me couldn’t comprehend!).

  • Jaimie11

    Michael, you’ve me given a lot of reading to do and I have a busy few days ahead. I have skimmed the two genetic studies but need to read them properly, I have read the Senior article. I’m disappointed that McDonald regards her a serious intellectual.

    The original studies were done in 2001. Senior’s article in 2005, and McDonald’s in 2011. Scientific knowledge is updated and changes on a daily basis – the time lag makes the connections between these items seem forced.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    I don’t think it takes great intelligence to recognize that any nation that must force its citizens to stay must have real problems.

    Ha ha! You would think, wouldn’t you? But the power of the mind to deny that which is not convenient to us is unbelievable. It’s that cognitive dissonance we talked about before. In another thread I read someone praising Cuba. Their rationalization? When Fidel told people to go, only 1% of the population left. Ha ha ha! That one kills me. If only that individual knew. When the bastard said “all those who want to go can go, he had over 100,000 people (of a population of 11 million) on the ducks overnight. Then, he had to shut down otherwise the entire country would have left. WTF? How can people be so utterly ignorant, stupid and gullible? That, I will never understand. And having all the tools available to find out the truth also. It’s not like we were. We were completely shut out from the world with a couple of state radio stations in one state-run TV channel in only like 1 out of 50 or 100 households even had a TV set. The only thing we had available from the outside was Voice of the Americas out of Florida. If you were caught listening to that, they’d throw you in the clinker for 20 years.

    Oi, Catholics! Say no more. And consider yourself very, very lucky. You are one in millions. The average American doesn’t think like you. They are one closed-minded, judgmental, ignorant bunch who would rather die in denial than open their eyes and see the world for what it is. Pat yourself on the shoulder a couple times. One for you and one for me. :)

    Hey, if you’d like, you can email me at my personal addy.. I think I may be taking a vacation from here. One of my regular stalkers is back and being a royal pain in the ass too. I can’t spend my whole life fighting the impossible for absolutely no reason so maybe its time to put some distance between me and RS for a while.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve got it. I suggest you return at least long enough to delete it. (I never got notice of this comment from Disqus.)

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Good idea. Hope I can find it. My stalkers are back enforced. I may have to take a leave from here for a while just till they move on to someone else.

  • Anonymous

    Comment dated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nemuhammad Elgamal Nabiel

    This is a frivolous act and a “chilling attack on free speech that we intend to defend vigorously.”
    & that is the big lie which the Israelis use to use it against any Fair person whom try to expose them in front of the world & the they whom are misleading the world specially whom not aware with what kind of crimes the Israeli Government commit against the the Palestinians

  • Anonymous

    Disregard.

  • Anonymous

    Comment dated

  • Anonymous

    Jews seem to be the only ones able to sue anyone for having a point of view that differs from theirs. Stating the FACTS concerning Israel Piracy on the High Seas, trial by missiles,mass murder of unarmed Palestinian civilians bombed daily with wp and dm soley because Israel covet their land will surely land you in the Courts. Freedom of speech IF they have their way could soon become a thing of the past.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Oops! Sorry, I missed the show. :(

    But doesn’t surprise me. I’m a magnet for these shills, every time you see one of ‘em stalking me, you can bet they’re up to no good. He’s one of them. I just got rid of two. There’s one more I’m trying to catch.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, which show? You mean the one with the self-proclaimed tosser?

    Care to name names?

    You can try it via email, if you ever get my note

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