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Friday, February 4, 2011 19:33 EDT
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A liberal congressman has demanded a chance to visit with accused secrets leaker Pfc. Bradley Manning, who is being held in US military custody.

“As you know, I am concerned about reports of his treatment while in custody that describe alarming abuses of his constitutional rights and his physical health,” Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) wrote in a letter to Defense Secretary Robert Gates Friday.

He continued, “His care while in the custody of the Department of Defense is the responsibility of the U.S. Government and as a member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform it is my duty to conduct effective oversight.”

Recent reports have suggested that Manning’s condition has declined visibly during six months in solitary confinement. Kucinich earlier in the week demanded that the Army publicly reveal Manning’s mental health.

“If true, the Army’s treatment would obviously constitute ‘cruel and unusual punishment’ in violation of the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution,” Rep. Kucinich wrote in a previous letter to Gates.

Kucinich urged that Manning be immediately provided with a mental health specialist should the accusations of unfair treatment before his deployment to Iraq prove correct.

“At the very least, the Army must explain the justification for confining someone with mental health problems under conditions that are virtually certain to exacerbate those problems and explain the danger he now presents that only these extreme conditions of confinement can avoid,” he added.

Kucinich’s letter came in response to The Washington Post‘s report on Pfc. Manning, an Army intelligence analyst accused of being a source of the WikiLeaks documents. The report indicated that the Army deployed Manning to Iraq in spite of a mental health screening that recommended he remain at home.

In Iraq, Manning’s mental health continued to deteriorate, the report indicated, to the point where he was demoted in rank for assaulting another soldier. Since his arrest in May 2010, Manning has been held in intensive solitary confinement at a prison in Quantico, Va.

Quoting from Glenn Greenwald’s December 2010 report on Manning’s condition, Kucinich wrote,”In sum, Manning has been subjected for many months without pause to inhumane, personality-erasing, soul-destroying, insanity-inducing conditions of isolation similar to those perfected at America’s Supermax prison in Florence, Colorado:  all without so much as having been convicted of anything.”

Kucinich also quoted from a recent “Open Letter” from the Psychologists for Social Responsibility, issued in protest of Manning’s incarceration. The letter said that the group determined Manning’s confinement fits the definition of “cruel, unusual and inhumane treatment” and thereby violates US law.

In January, two activist reporters who tried to deliver a petition protesting Manning’s treatment were detained against their will at Quantico. A few days earlier, Manning had been placed on suicide watch for two days against the wishes of the prison’s psychologist.

Many of Manning’s defenders say the US is trying to use its leverage against the Army private to pressure him into testifying against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, something the New York Times suggested last month.

Manning has been held in some form of solitary confinement for at least the past six months. He faces charges the Army says could result in up to 52 years in prison.

The United Nations’ special rapporteur for torture has reportedly launched an investigation into complaints that Manning’s treatment at Quantico amounts to torture.

This week, Amnesty International attempted to increase support to Manning by suggesting he may be a British citizen because his mother is reportedly Welsh by birth. However, Manning’s lawyer said that his client considered himself an American citizen.

With reporting by Daniel Tencer.

 
 
 
 
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  • hegesias

    I heart Dennis. He should have been president.

  • hourglass1

    agreed anon!

    thank gawd there is a patriot in the house!

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Why can’t they get the media in there to interview him?
    They can’t.
    Why isn’t he allowed to communicate to the outside world? Why did Bradley Manning do it?

  • Harry Tuttle

    Cruel and unusual punishment… why not? They don’t respect the Constitution anymore anyway. Go Dennis!

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Nobody is ever going to release Bradley Manning. He was exploited as an asset by Julian Assange who is going to leave him to die in 23 hour lockdown under torturous conditions in a secret prison.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Exposing “war criminals” accomplishes nothing. It only makes them declare war on the American citizens who now they can’t trust. Exposing the “war criminals” only makes them paranoid enough to start assassinating, torturing, and locking up American citizens.

    You think Bradley Manning is the first or the last? Anyone who becomes a subversive will be locked up, and if that doesn’t work then any subversive can be killed off. Cointelpro 2 http://www.cointelpro2.com/
    http://www.targetedindividuals.com/
    is what we can expect to happen. And if you fight against the government you can expect the stuff in the video to happen to you. And no it doesn’t matter which government you live under, they all have secret police.

    Where are all you “Bradley Manning is a hero” types when people are complaining about being targeted and harassed by the government? Thats right, you aren’t around and don’t care about that.

    Watch the videos below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJaDLhuNxi8
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2967542171184509301

    Is Bradley Manning really a hero? What did he really accomplish? I don’t think he accomplished much at all, but his life is officially destroyed. Along with a lot of other people associated with anonymous, and hacking, and a lot of random civilians not associated with any of that who just get targeted.
    http://www.targetedindividuals.com/

  • http://twitter.com/Howieisright Howieisright

    I wish he would change his mind and run in 2012. He has a good track record of standing up for whats right.

  • Guest

    There is a “Draft Dennis” thing online but I don’t have the link right now. I signed it a couple of months ago, but I don’t think he’ll run again.

    I read on here somewhere about the possibility of drafting Alan Grayson. If anyone knows a petition, PLEASE post it! Someone with heart needs to take on the current Liar-In-Chief.
    Check this out: http://www.draftgraysonforpresident.com/
    Or this: http://tinyurl.com/49fcwez

  • Anonymous

    Hello? Are you insane? How can Julian Assange exploit someone he has never met or had contact with? Manning allegedly sent Assange the files unprompted. And Assange is going to leave him to die in prison? Get a grip dude. Like the authorities are going to release him if only Assange would give the okay? While we’re at it, how is Quantico a “secret prison?”

  • Anonymous

    It ain’t just Manning that is being tortured by the US prison system.

    “Human Rights Watch condemns US prison system”
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/hrwr-j28.shtml

  • Anonymous

    Cool. Sounds like DK is back.

    Subpoena Manning for Congressional testimony. Lets hear what he has to say. Lets see how he looks. Lets put him in front of the media.

  • hourglass1

    i hear what you’re saying if you’re addressing your frustration at the lack of patriotism in this “greatest country in the world”, red, white and blue dildo.

    but i can’t tell if you’re waving with both arms to get our attention or that you want us see you are in total surrender mode …

  • Anonymous

    Standing up for whats right instantly disqualifies any candidate. Duhhh

  • Guest

    Sarcasm? (-:) But mainly true, I’m afraid.

  • Anonymous

    There’s Dennis again–fighting on the side of what used to be former American ideals.

  • ghostof911

    David House has been visiting Bradley Manning weekly and has been filing regular reports.

    http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/01/31/video-david-house-says-bradley-mannings-spirits-down-but-excited-about-egypt/

    Why did Bradley Manning do it? He did it for reasons that selfish people aren’t capable of wrapping their brains around.

  • Anonymous

    innocent until…guess not…there are hundreds of traitors who should be behind bars…this man is a hero for trying to expose them…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gregory-Martin/100000564476826 Gregory Martin

    That olive pit was planted on purpose…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WDCRZLG2KHQVYSWCN4POSUAKWU Michelle Beach

    Obama continues to be a Piece of Shit President for letting Outrage like this to Go On!!!!

  • Dravazed

    Once again, Mr. Kucinich shows not only that he is a true democrat and public servant, but also an exemplary human being.

  • ghostof911

    Wonder if the chef was the same one that prepared Assange’s rice and beans dish.

    Mr Assange lost a tooth after chewing on a metal object in plate of rice and beans during his incarceration.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340173/I-locked-paedophiles-child-killers-WikiLeaks-boss-Julian-Assange-tells-prison-hell.html#ixzz1D2ln9kqV

  • ghostof911

    After Manning’s brains have been turned to mush after months of solitary confinement? Not sure what that would prove except for ranking America’s Inquisitors with the most barbarous in history.

  • Anonymous

    If DK is denied access, then the United States HAS become the new Soviet Union, with Quantico, Gitmo and numerous other prison sites being no different from a Soviet gulag, with detainees maltreated and denied basic human rights, besides having their Constitutional protections violated, making a mockery of our democracy.

    This was bound to happen once conservative Republicans in the previous Bush/Cheney administration got away with committing so many crimes, with no one being held accountable. President Obama, unfortunately, along with certain conservative-leaning Democrats have continued some of the most heinous of Bush/Cheney policies. (Forget about the Republicans. They’re so mesmerized by lying propagandist talking points, along with faux displays of “patriotism,” that they can only be counted on to continue the insane right-wing policies that can only further erode freedoms and the strength of our nation, a process that began under Ronald Reagan but reached its peak under the run amok criminal Bush/Cheney administration).

    President Obama, as commander-in-chief, could stop this maltreatment of Manning…right now. And the Washington Post’s revelations about Manning’s mental condition before being deployed overseas in Bush’s war indicates one of the reasons he first copied and then released these secret cables…payback. At least he didn’t pull a stunt like the Fort Hood shooter.

  • Anonymous

    He’s one of the few things that make me proud to be from Ohio!

  • Anonymous

    It would let all of Congress see the effect of long-term solitary. They’re the ones with the power to end the practice.

  • Anonymous

    It doesn’t disqualify him for candidacy, just for president. The important thing is when he runs he forces candidates to talk about things they wouldn’t normally.

  • Anonymous

    Should have been president? He aint’ dead yet, he still can be. He’s always my first choice among democrats.

  • Anonymous

    Bravo to Mr. Kucinich. Manning is an American citizen who has not been convicted of any crime whatsoever. If he were a civilian, he would be out on bail. The conditions of pre-trial detention under which he is being held violate the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

    Lt. William Calley, after having been convicted of murdering 350+ civilians, served his entire sentence in his own bachelor quarters on a US military base. Apparently whistle-blowing is a more serious crime than mass murder.

  • Anonymous

    Indeed, The torturers . . . Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld . . . walk free and receive generous pensions of OUR fucking money. Is this a great country or what . . .?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FONW6K3ZWV4BU4ZTCDCSZHHH6E Mick Jagger

    We need an army of Kucinichs.

  • Guest

    Would be nice to see THEM in solitary and water-boarded for sport.

  • Guest

    It’s called Patriotism, I believe, for the greater good.

  • Anonymous

    some times i just love this guy…..

  • Anonymous

    Dennis and Bernie Sanders are the two shining bright lights in Congress. Most of the rest of them either don’t get what is going on in the U.S. or they just don’t care. Probably more the latter than the former. I hope he is successful in getting to see him and that he can effect some sort of release. This business of ignoring habeus corpus (sp?) has got to stop. The rule of law in the U.S. is applied selectively.

  • Anonymous

    Is the proper reaction to political repression to keep your mouth shut and not endanger yourself? Sounds like cowardice to me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QLSJWBUUHLJXURPYQFCUE63J2A stephen flint

    Total agreement. He was shut out of the debates; he would have spoken truth, which cannot be allowed. We should look at the Egyptians and follow suit. Our aristocracy is not so different from Mubarak.

  • Anonymous

    Dennis! Dennis! Dennis!

    Gawd, I wish there were one of him in the WH, 9 of him on the bench, and a Congress full of them.

  • Anonymous

    Of course it is. It’s much more career-ending.

  • Anonymous

    in front to the media – bingo, maybe that will do it.

    As the previous Nazi pres W used to say: “make no mistake”
    The US imprisons and tortures, without even a trial, political prisoners abroad and at home…

  • Anonymous

    And is my memory playing tricks or did Obama not once upon a time promise protections for whistle-blowers?

  • Anonymous

    Probably not the same cook – but perhaps the same ‘cooking school’?

  • Anonymous

    Progressive hero Dennis Kucinich, the voice of reason. The reason he won’t be president is because the media focuses on the UFOs and the olive pit, and his base (us) doesn’t fight back.

  • Anonymous

    If you liked what the Democratic ‘leadership’ did to him in the last primaries, you’d love what they would do to him if he went up against their precious Obama.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Finally…at least someone with a faint vague hint of clout has noticed what everyone outside the beltway has been muttering for months…a guy who hasn’t been formally charged under the UCMJ is being subjected to flat out mental torture and no one seems to give a shit. The treatment Manning has received has been illegal…even under the UCMJ. The pretense that he’s a ‘threat to himself’ is a joke, and no one…absolutely no one…even the people saying the words out loud…actually believes it. If he’s to be held…charge him and hold him like any other prisoner…or get the fuck over it and let him go. This indefinite detention for Americans bullsh*t needs to be clamped down on and done away with once and for all.

  • Anonymous

    Yayas: “The reason he won’t be president is because the media focuses on the UFOs and the olive pit, and his base (us) doesn’t fight back.”

    Half right: the msm obviously has an agenda, and we all know what it is and by whom. So you are correct: they attempt to frame him with the select coverage.

    However….I stopped “supporting” Dennis when he decided it was more important to stay in the Democratic party then to follow his values and run as an independent against Kerry. Like Ron Paul, he prefers the comfort of the Establishment when push comes to shove. I don’t forget his changing his tune on the bogus and flawed health care “reform” bill which he properly described as useless…until he took a ride on AF1 with Obama…then voted for it.

    We ‘don’t fight back” because he has shown he has no gravitas, no commitment other than political survival.

    However…stories like this resurrects his creds a tad, in my opinion.

    Manning must go FREE NOW.

  • Anonymous

    Kucinich is perhaps the only Congressman possessed of not only a heart but also true convictions. The only one who really believes in Truth, Justice, and the American Way. God bless the man.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    We are rapidly approaching totalitarian conditions when people can be imprisoned for extended periods of time without charges being brought forth. The Executive branch uses this as a tool to exert political control. They weren’t originally meant to have that tool but somehow the Judicial branch got thrown in the back seat during W. Bush. Giving up the newfound “unitary executive” power of indefinite detention would be too altruistic an act for the ever-pragmatic Obama to take on, so don’t expect him to stop using it any time soon. A convenient way to get rid of trouble makers, that.

    With Manning it’s very curious that he’s obviously broken espionage laws for which he could be charged, yet they charge him with no crime and continue a seemingly endless interrogation. Why? Does the US not have evidence against him?

    I agree the Republican’s are too self-serving so no justice can be found there. Most Democrats are too squeamish to touch this for risk of being seen as soft on terrorism and defense. So there you have it: It’s Justice in America. Just like Morning in America, but much more sinister and creepy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    Yes, that’s the Academe de Espionage Cuisine in Paris…

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    If you want to survive and live a long prosperous life thats basically all you can do. If you want to die for a revolution then you can take on the US government which just happens to be the most militarily mighty government in the world.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    It’s all just so odd. Maybe Bradley Manning knows too much and they’re trying to turn him into a human vegetable before he talks. Or perhaps they’re trying to use Manning to get to Assange. They don’t want to play their hand prematurely least Assange escape the trap. And so they wait….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    Yes, the problem is systemic. We’re not looking at an isolated incident with Manning. Rather we’re seeing a high profile case of something that happens to people every day.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    This is the BEST FUCKING News I’ve heard all day !

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    You have the option to try and survive, if you care about survival, or you can be treated like Bradley Manning or worse.

    You side with Bradley Manning and the government has made it clear that they intend to treat you like Bradley Manning. So are you willing to be locked up in Quantico somewhere for 23 hours a day? Are you willing to get people you care about killed or willing to risk your own life for these political agendas?

    Personally I’m not willing, but some people are. If you are then you should know the life typically isn’t very long for a revolutionary and that most revolutionaries end up in prison.

    Where were you when all the family members of the civil rights movement and black panthers were targeted and locked up in prison? The police called them gang members and locked millions up, and continues to target gang members. Gang members are revolutionaries, are subversives, but the government calls them criminals.

    And the Bush government says you only have the option to either be with them or be with the terrorists.The people who are pretending to support Bradley Manning and revolution will be the first ones to turn on the revolutionary movement, rat out or inform on each other, so no I don’t think that a revolution is possible in the USA.

    The USA is filled with cowards who would rather inform for the government than fight a revolution. The whole revolution talk is just agent provocateurs probably working for the FBI, just like those anonymous volunteers who told everyone to download that DDOS software and run it, and like predicted, a few months later, you hear about dozens of raids.

    You think any of this is by accident?

  • Anonymous

    I agree with what you say. To sum it up, the corporations that run this country would never let Kucinich become more influential than he is. They will allow some guy on the outter fringes shout into the wind, but that’s about it. For us to regain our democracy, we would have to take inspiration from the Egyptians in the street.Are we willing to put out lives on the live like they are?

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    How is the greater good determined and who determines it?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    I do agree to some extent that Assange may have exploited others in his mission to expose the world’s corruption. But I don’t think we can say for sure with the information available today that he personally exploited Manning. It’s likely Manning saw the release of the information as a duty of social responsibility, he had the capacity to carry out the act and a window of opportunity to do so and that, in a sense, he exploited Assange to get the secrets published.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks! I couldn’t for the life of me recall the name.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    The goal of enhanced interrogation is to break a person psychologically, physically, totally and completely.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    When you go against the government you risk everything. People like Julian Assange and Bradley Manning seem to us to be reckless and irrational because they risk it all to expose corruption. Others in our history have done so too and many have paid the ultimate price. People are giving their lives all over the globe today for causes they deeply believe in. Like you I question their judgment when they take such personal risk and make such sacrifices for the release of information. But I’m also thankful for those whose convictions and conscience speak to the higher order of social justice over personal safety. Because of them we now know a lot more about what world governments and mega-corporations have been doing behind our backs.

  • Taleisin

    If this is how they treat him before a trial, I wonder how they will treat him if they find him guilty.
    And why is it taking so long to put him on trial?
    If this were happening in a foreign country we would call it barbaric.

  • Anonymous

    The only one who really believes in Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

    Isn’t that from really old Superman?

  • Anonymous

    Kucinich/Paul 2012!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Um, we ARE in “totalitarian conditions.” Don’t be in denial or try to soften the blow. This is a police state and a fascist oligarchy.

  • Anonymous

    And let’s thank the people of Cleveland OH and Vermont for electing these brave men to Congress year after year. I wish my districts voted in such progressives!

  • Anonymous

    If everyone held your political philosophy we would all be living under feudalism. Try being a peasant farmer and see how long and prosperous your life would be.

  • spike91nz

    The little guy’s got his heart in the right place and some serious evidence he’s got some brass ones to get the job done. Well done Kucinich.

    Manning in jail for providing transparency, which a democratic government should do on principle, while the corporate boys who scammed the country get a pass. The USA is a poor example for the world, and all the jingoist right-wing political rhetoric sounds more and more self delusional.

  • Anonymous

    There is a big difference when both sides clashing in the streets are throwing lead instead of rocks and bottles. I love the idea of hitting the streets but the powers that be have done such an extraordinary job of polarizing its citizens that when those who support the thugs in charge and those who oppose them clash, it will make Gettysburg look like a quail hunt. And which side do you think the military will be protecting if it happens here?

  • Anonymous

    It’s way past “if” and “then” comrade. We HAVE become the country we were taught to fear not so many years ago. And just like that other country, our conquering of Afghanistan will hasten our demise.

  • Anonymous

    Kucinich exemplifies everything that a leader should be.

    Obama and Biden, a couple of billion
    Romney and Palin, maybe a billion or so more
    Kucinich and Sanders, priceless

  • PeterGrfx

    or Clark Kent

  • Anonymous

    That’s who I voted for last election.
    He use to live in a car with his familly, so I think he knows the plite were in, a self made true american hero.
    Kucinich / Greyson 2012

  • DriveBy

    This is why we should always have liberal governments… liberals will always question authority, hold it accountable, and thus keep it on the straight and narrow. “Conservatives” worship their leaders, treat them as Gods, and believe their leaders can do no wrong. All “conservatives” ever do is rubber stamp whatever their leader puts before them. You cannot run a government like that…. a religion maybe, but not a functioning government.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    how do you know we aren’t? I do consider myself a peasant, thanks for reminding me of the obvious.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    Didn’t you just describe the teabaggers who questioned their leaders (the RNC)?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    A) It’s spelled “plight” (You can thank the teachers union for that one)
    B) I don’t know many “self made true Americans” who are among the most powerful, famous people in the world who would sue his own government for $150,000 over biting an olive pit in his salad. Just sayin.
    BTW, are you aware that he has been a politician sucking off the teat of the taxpayers since he was 23 years old? I’d like to see this “courageous, self made man” do one honest days work in the real world.
    What a total waste of organic matter this douchebag is.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    YESSSSSSS! Then we could ALL be starving in the streets! AWESOME!

  • DriveBy

    Don’t get fooled by labels. Teabaggers are just Republicans pretending they are not Republicans… not that I blame them – BushCo soiled the Republican brand so they had to do some re-branding and pay lip service to “questioning” Republicans, but all they ever did was oppose the Democrats (so what else is new?) and oppose the RINOs who were not being insane enough. Teabaggers are the racist hardcore of the Republican Party and nothing else.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    You sound like an 8 year old having a temper tantrum and saying your life is over because the store doesn’t have your favorite flavor of ice cream. Go live in Somolia for a few years and then come back and kiss the hand that has been feeding you since you plopped out of the womb.

  • Anonymous

    No, we’d all be starving a little less, and the supra-national corporations who now virtually control every decision-making process in this country just might have a little less power. Care to explain the logic behind your idiotic comment?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Monkeys flinging dung are not “questioning their leaders.” We are discussing human beings.

  • Anonymous

    Please let Dennis see him so we can be assured Manning is being treated like any other accused American spy with Constitutional rights. The myth that he is is being treated unjustly like any person accused of treason must end. His day in court can not come soon enough. Can’t wait for that trial in the bright open public- it will be a media frenzy when it happens. He will have the best legal representation and lets see justice, one way or the other.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    I’d call you an imbecile, but imbeciles are human and have a right to live.

    A) What does the Teachers’ Union have to do with the fact that Corporatelover spells like a Teabagger? C. at least thinks intelligently, which is impossible for the likes of you.

    B) He isn’t suing his government; he’s suing a contractor. Your kind never get anything right.

    Since when have your masters, the Koch brothers, ever done an honest day’s work? They are parasites who belong at the end of a rope.

    C) George Soros (anticipating your inevitable next lie) has nothing to do with this discussion. You’ve swallowed a tape recorder. In any case, Soros, unlike the Kochs, is self-made. (Here insert more of your idiot lies).

    D) Kucinich has been successful since he was 23, never having enjoyed a penny of the inherited wealth that funds the “self-made” right wing. And this makes him inferior to an ass-licking little toady like you? How ridiculous.

    The phrase “sucking off” does not refer to a “teat,” but to a different organ that emits a different kind of fluid–no doubt one you ingest with some frequency. I think a Koch brother is waiting for you now.

    What a waste of shit you are, you talking turd.

  • Anonymous

    The world is concerned.

    While we can understand the imprisonment of Manning and moderation of his communications, his solitary confinement is not a strategical necessity, instead, it is a cruel punishment tantamount to torture.

    He can be securely detained without needing to resort to this.

    Although he may have pissed off half of America, being unnecessarily uncivilized and inhumane, treating him as only savages and sadists would – is an unethical and immoral way to handle this.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    You optimist. We’d just say, “HOO_WA. KILL!!” then whine about our dear Lord Jesus Christ.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    We can assume that Kucinich will be arrested and sent to Guantanamo. And that America will accept it meekly.

  • Anonymous

    If you follow the money, you soon learn that both the Teabaggers and the RNC are Koch-aid drinkers. =)

  • Anonymous

    Yes, it is. It is amazing to hear a Congressman who isn’t feeding his or her constituency and the American public a constant diet of lies and bovine feces.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Manning is a hero because we need a revolution and he has provided evidence to prove that.

    There is no law in the United States, nor is there any legitimate authority. The so-called Constitution has been subverted by the Republicans and Democrats and is no longer in force, if it ever was. It’s merely a piece of paper.

    Free Manning now!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    I think the Republican standard is to hang the prisoner from a meat hook with piano wire.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    No politician can operate legitimately within the illegitimate government of the United States.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    The deployment of U.S. troops and Xe mercenaries against peaceful citizens is very possible.

    This is greatly to be feared. But the problem may well have a political solution.

    Successful resistance to our many unsuccessful wars shows that in the ultimate case, our military can be resisted indefinitely by a determined and resourceful people. This can’t by itself lead to victory, but it can advance the political solution by other means while preparing the ground for open rebellion.

    At some point the masked anarchy that funds the military may no longer be able to pay them. The economy will be in ruins. The troops, in effect will be boarded upon the population. The more the population are plundered to feed and fuel their murderers, the greater the resentment will become. At the right time, the people will be in a position to assert their rights again and may succeed.

    Remember, the population of the United States, if Scalia and the Koch brothers have their way, will be subjected to the illegal murder and torture regime that has hitherto been reserved for foreigners whom we consider our racial inferiors. This will come as a great surprise to many.

    There is also an excellent chance that regular troops, ordered as they certainly will be to murder peaceful demonstrators by the hundreds of thousands, will refuse their orders and turn on their commanders. This is their duty under international law, whatever the Roland Frieslers (Scalia, Vinson, Thomas) of our illegitimate judciary decree.

    So the situation, while terrible, is not hopeless.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Your kind will be in the streets for sure. But since when does shit need to eat?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Well, for certain the people need an army.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    What a surprise!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Of course he did. Therefore ….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Bob, we’ve been there for decades. This country is an anarchy run by genocidal maniacs.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Take your long-winded shite somewhere else. By the way, Mr. Spelling Bee, there is no such place as “Somolia.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Does that mean anything?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Right. No remedy is available under the present anarchy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    The problem is that we continue to consent to a power that cannot be used on behalf of the people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Your rage is justified. This is possible.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    This cannot be resolved within the current social and political system.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Yes. The U.S. military, and the obscene federal police agencies, and most local so-called “authorities” are almost without exception psychotic killers and torturers who have no right to exist. The private SS forces, such as Xe, are–unbelievable as it sounds–even worse.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Most of us would be lucky to have that to look forward to, given the inevitable tendency of the capitalist tyranny under which we live.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    It’s true that revolution does not inevitably succeed. What Egypt teaches us is 1) that revolution is possible, and 2) that true revolution is led by the workers first, then the intelligentsia, and last by politicians, and not the other way around.

    Anyone suggesting those two ideas would have been laughed off the Internet by “liberals” two weeks ago.

    Many still haven’t received the message.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Of course not. Obviously it’s all a conspiracy aimed at you,

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    I love it when the propeller on your head starts to overheat.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    The people determine it. The term “people” doesn’t include social parasites and conservaturds.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    He deserves better than that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    As a refugee from Ohio myself, I couldn’t agree more. Ohio is one of the few places in America where Republican whores commit murder openly in broad daylight. (Kent, Ohio, 1968. “Big Jim” Rhodes personally orders the commander of the Ohio National Guard to shoot to kill.)

    The depth of fascism in the Buckeye State makes the Blue Hole look like a puddle. I doubt that even the Deep South can compete.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    No election under the present system can be anything but a tactical exercise on the path to revolution.

  • Taleisin

    The brutality America exhibits is not good PR. What must happen in the back rooms that we never hear about, must be even worst. This treatment of human beings that is becoming America’s trademark, will come back to bite America on the bum one day.

    The Germans were brutal to the Russians in WWII. The people knew their soldiers had broken all the rules of warfare. When the tide changed and the Russians advanced, the Germans sincerely believed the Russians would kill every single German. They shit their pants.

    The tide always changes. That is the nature of tides.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Comment withdrawn.

  • Taleisin

    A gun and a bible. That’s what makes us whiteman ‘king of the world’.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    You don’t deserve such an honorable title.

  • Anonymous

    The Mental Health Professionals that Rep. Kucinich is requesting are the ones prescribing his current “treatment”

  • Rob

    Less than 5% actually participated in the american revolution. Everyone else just waited it out.

  • Guest

    “…so we can be assured Manning is being treated like any other accused American spy with Constitutional rights. The myth that he is is being treated unjustly…..”

    You say “so we can be assured”, but you don’t speak for yourself. Your second statement makes it clear you believe he is being treated just fine.

    For those who aren’t so sure. We see the obvious huge tactical advantage gained by our government in their witch hunt against Assange if Manning is mentally broken down.

  • Anonymous

    Dennis Kucinich proving once again that he’s one of only a very few American politicians who actually possesses a conscience and true concern for his fellow citizens.

  • http://twitter.com/Abonifield Alexandra Bonifield

    Thank you, Dennis! Don’t let these military goons get away with torture.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    The fact that other nations have worse civil rights records doesn’t excuse our government from their human rights abuses and war crimes.

  • http://twitter.com/Abonifield Alexandra Bonifield

    Oh, dear! You don’t know the facts about Rep. Kucinich. He’s a hard-working, honest Rep, lives in the same modest home for years and years, no entitled “pol”. Takes no “slush money” from lobby concerns. He did not “sue” the cafeteria contractor. They settled over the huge debt he incurred after the olive pit they left in his wrap caused extensive dental damage necessitating surgery. Any citizen would do the same if they found glass or any other foreign substance in their food that broke a tooth and caused extensive dental problems.He has held other jobs over the years but has dedicated his life to representing the people fairly. Not ALL politicians are total jerks. Many, but not Dennis.

  • Anonymous

    Dennis has zero chance of having a meeting with PFC Bradley Manning! The military industrial complex runs the show and not Congress!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    And the same ones who put up that padding in your bedroom.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    There is no law in the United States. And our imperial power is waning.

  • Anonymous

    absolutely, that’s why it’s better to have him running cuz it shows what people know. Not sure if stupid is the right word. I think they’re smart, just corporate wh0res.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Does this mean they’re no longer “former”–i.e, current?

  • Anonymous

    What are you doing in my bedroom? ya freak

  • Jaimie11

    He wants ‘us’ to surrender. I think he makes money on us if we obey and consume.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    In all fairness, if that’s appropriate, I suspect our overheated friend was referring to solitary confinement without human contact when he referred to a “secret” prison. It’s not a secret that Bradley is being held there, but he is nevertheless secreted.

    All right, it was worth a try.

  • Anonymous

    This was the guy the US media tried to make look like a fool in the last election and people voted for the MSM candidate instead and look what you got.

    Maybe people will smarten up this time??

  • Anonymous

    you said, “but you don’t speak for yourself”. but I do.. always. It is one of my gifts. Are we still talking about Julie? His 15 minutes are over. tough for him to get a headline these days.

  • http://www.taylordobbs.com/ Taylor Dobbs

    If this wasn’t as high-profile as it is, Kucinich wouldn’t give a damn. Nobody went down to Guantanamo to hang out with people who got the definitive “cruel and unusual punishment.”

  • Anonymous

    Dennis has been vocal and outspoken against the detainee abuse at Guantanamo for years.

    “On Feb. 17, 2002, Representative Dennis J. Kucinich, Democrat of Ohio, was a featured speaker at a conference sponsored by the Southern California Americans for Democratic Action. As co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, Mr. Kucinich had made a name for himself as an outspoken foe of what he sees as the Bush administration’s bellicose foreign policy.

    One thousand people packed a hall at the University of Southern California to hear him attack the war in Afghanistan and the buildup to war in Iraq, the primary antiterrorism legislation and the treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay.”

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0102-04.htm

    To argue that he’s somehow a hypocrite and to imply that he’s only now interested in detainee abuse is factually wrong.

  • Anonymous

    We’ll see. He’s a congressman.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.freerepublic.com

    There you go buddy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7CMDD3OA7PQXP5F4WN6AWN4IY Chance Morgan

    Yeah, we should not let people tell the truth. We should hide from it and kill anyone who causes our military bad PR(Public-Relations). We should kill’em like our troops were shown doing to innocent civillians when this private released those tapes of what the helicoptor crew did to those journalists. Hell, Kill all who don’t vote Republican, own a gun, or don’t sleep with cousins, and kill those who tell the truth about what our government REALLY does with your tax dollars.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7CMDD3OA7PQXP5F4WN6AWN4IY Chance Morgan

    Yeah, we should not let people tell the truth. We should hide from it and kill anyone who causes our military bad PR(Public-Relations). We should kill’em like our troops were shown doing to innocent civillians when this private released those tapes of what the helicoptor crew did to those journalists. Hell, Kill all who don’t vote Republican, own a gun, or don’t sleep with cousins, and kill those who tell the truth about what our government REALLY does with your tax dollars.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    America is not Egypt. The American government is not the Egyptian government. The American military is not the Egyptian military.

    The US government has much better weapons, more effective secret police, and unlimited money and technology.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    What were the death totals of the US civil war?

    Anyway during the US revolution it was a time where the gun was the most sophisticated weapon and everybody and anybody could have a gun.

    Now we have secret weapons, chemical, biological, or even worse, personally designed weapons to target a specific individuals medical condition. This means the government could kill you with an asthma attack if they know you have asthma. A heart attack if they know you have heart disease. Etc.

    If there is a new American revolution it will be fought by illegal immigrant mercenaries who have no identity who come to the USA on missions to assassinate and kill. It wont have anything to do with Americans like you and me.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Which people?

  • Anonymous

    God bless Kucinich. The only one in congress who has stepped up to the plate to find out if the allegations are true.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    I can’t even pay my bills, can’t even pay my rent, so no I’m not making any money.

    The point I’m making and that I made to you in previous discussions is that no American peasant is going to revolutionize shit. We aren’t Egypt. Our government has been collecting information and compiling dossiers on us since the birth certificate. Our government knows all our physical, psychological, financial and other weaknesses and has trained operatives prepared to exploit each and every weakness after years of collecting them.

    You have a medical condition? They can easily exploit any disease you have, as they have access to all your records and they have doctors.

    You can’t hide anywhere on earth from them because their satellites can track you from space, down to your heart beat and brain waves.

    And once again the government knows every possible fact about you in some database somewhere. You can’t be a revolutionary if you have a name, an address, and all your communications are tapped. Sure if you are in Egypt where they don’t have the ability to store everyone in a computer or check Facebook it might be possible, but in the USA it’s just not possible for Americans to be revolutionaries.

    It might be possible for Mexicans, or illegal immigrants to be revolutionaries. The government might not know their names. These people might be trained by the Mexican or other governments on how to launch revolutions. But you and I have no training, you and I have no privacy, and we have no possible advantage or element of surprise from which to wage a revolutionary battle.

    It’s literally a mission impossible, and the people who talk like revolutionaries usually are the peasants who have no power and no training.

    I admit I’m a peasant, if I can’t pay my bills, and can’t pay my rent, and have never been to a shooting range, revolution is not something I’ll ever have the option of considering.

    Revolutionary activity will just give the government the excuse to torture me, put me in prison, or kill me. So no I don’t ask any American to obey and consume, I’m saying any American with a high IQ will know better than to think they can be revolutionaries.

  • Anonymous

    Ditto.

    Thank the gods we still have several real dems left in the House who will fight against this Torture Nation; too bad there are none left in the US Senate since Dorgan retired and Russ Feingold was insanely voted out.

  • Anonymous

    “The myth that he is is being treated unjustly like any person accused of treason must end.”

    Sonny, or more properly I should say, candy butt, I know you’re not a real American, for a Real American is familiar with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and therefore realizes, as those of us who actually served, that Bradley Manning has gone, far, far, far beyond the legal judicial incarceration prior to receive a court-martial — the Obama administration stands criminally charged as such — and Pfc. Manning has been continuously sleep-deprived in his unlawfully long incarceration at Quantico, in violation of all US international treaties, and the UN human rights treaty.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Robert you are all talk. An amateur revolutionary. You’ve never been involved in a revolution in your life. Have you left America in your life?

    American peasants with pitchforks can’t go up against chemical, biological and stealth weaponry. Especially when the government can access every detail about their lives.

    The government could take me out, take you out, take anybody out. The government could arrest me, you, or anybody. And there is no where you’ll be able to hide because of biometric surveillance.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Peasants dont make good revolutionaries, they make good cannon fodder.

  • Anonymous

    Aren’t we all proud of what our country has become? The very actions [or in-actions] by the Army and our Government , shows we need whistle blowers to tell us what is really happening behind closed doors. Enough is enough. I hope the unrest and discontent that has erupted in the Mid East continues across the globe. Let the Youth take their future back and stomp out the ruling elite [ the greedy rich]!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GDCCF32H7IJAAQTUPFRUY4FI34 connie

    He’ll change his tune after another flight on Air Force One. It worked in getting Kucinich to go along with Obama’s insurance giveaway bill.

  • Anonymous

    I sure wish Mr. K would run for president for the debate that he would provide about what is best for America. There is no better man with a better heart than Kucinich in politics.

  • Anonymous

    the people in guantanamo are seen are pure terrorists and of course, aren’t white and american, for the most part. despicable.

  • http://twitter.com/bellaluna155 bellaluna

    Obama needs2get in front of this

  • http://twitter.com/DKSchu David Schumacher

    For all your bravado it is obvious you haven’t taken a strong stand against what you think is an unjust government. Pecking away at your keyboard only makes you feel brave, go shoot one of them and really get in the game.

  • Anonymous

    O-M-G why are calling someone those names? what kind of hate is that? that’s not good for your life my friend. and 11 stupid people LIKED this?
    stop trying to hurt each other then we can talk as humans.

  • Anonymous

    yeah, but since it’s the mighty USA who’s gonna call its BS? Switzerland? they are too small.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-W-Roads/629696293 Chris W Roads

    FREE BRADLEY MANNING, WE LET WAR CRIMINALS RUN FREE AND PUT TRUTH TELLERS IN PRISON. FTG !!

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. A gun to shoot anyone who doesn’t agree with their beliefs and the bible as a shield to protect those stupid beliefs.

  • Anonymous

    It’s funny how anyone who believes in UFOs is called a nut, but a person who believed in the bible and goes to church every Sunday with his little family is normal. The bible was written by barbaric PEOPLE in a barbaric time. That’s the reality of our little cozy planet Earth. Full of self-righteous pricks, who think they are better than anyone and know everything. Good luck

  • Anonymous

    when he was considering a run for president in 2008, the DNC refused to allow him (or nader, paul, barre, gravel), into their disney-debates. wouldn’t want americans to hear opposition to the single-party system, eh?

  • Anonymous

    People say he is unelectable. If that were true, they wouldn’t try so hard
    from having his message reach the American people.

  • Anonymous

    Candy butt? I see it is amateur hour on RS today. You don’t know what is going on with Manning unless you are there. Where should an accused spy be? The Four Seasons Scottsdale?

  • Anonymous

    This is a travesty of Justice! The real criminals are the politicians and Corporate investors that have continued these wars.Obamas’ Middle of the road politics are the same as tyranny! The injustice done to Manning is an injustice done to us all. Guantanamo Bay should be closed. A country without an equal rule of law is no Democracy!

  • Anonymous

    This is a travesty of Justice! The real criminals are the politicians and Corporate investors that have continued these wars.Obamas’ Middle of the road politics are the same as tyranny! The injustice done to Manning is an injustice done to us all. Guantanamo Bay should be closed. A country without an equal rule of law is no Democracy!

  • Anonymous

    Good that Rep. Dennis Kucinich is following up on this. I’ve been following Kucinich for some time and I believe he is a good man. If any thing can be done for Bradley I believe Kucinich is the man for the job,.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe Manning couldn’t help himself given the stressful situation he put himself in ie. joining the military and being deployed in Iraq. I would probably lose my shit if I were in such a situation especially if I was witness to all the criminality that goes on there. If he had suppressed himself through fear and intimidation, perhaps he would have committed suicide. Perhaps that could be part of the high rate of suicide in the military? Freedom of expression is an important thing. Maybe it would have been irrational and reckless not to speak out. BostonMan seems to be validating the muteness of concentration camp guards during WW2. Fear, intimidation… to succumb to it might help you out externally but as your insides rot from the moral outrage you endure by shutting it up, you die a slow death or perhaps turn into a Living Dead. Manning probably didn’t do what he did to be a “hero”, his conscious was probably just too great to do nothing and go along with the utter bullshit. He’s got way more moral conscious than King Obama in my opinion. Otherwise Obama would free him or at least verify a decent safe incarceration for him. Actually, if he had any moral compass he would let Manning speak out and out the true war criminals that take a paycheck every week from us while murdering civilians and increasing the problems while the Lobbying defense contractors watch their stocks rise.
    Why the fuck does anyone join the U.S. military these days? You gotta be a little suicidal and mentally unstable- in my opinion. People need to do some research before signing their life away. Martyrdumb is really not all that great. And for what cause? The Koch brothers etc.? The U.S. gov’t commits war crimes and suppresses the evidence.
    The commitment of Dennis K is inspiring.

  • Anonymous

    A peasant farmer might have a longer and more prosperous life than a G.I. in the current U.S. military, especially if Hemp were legal. Look at the homeless G.I.s. To me the peasant farmer is the better career move. We need more local farming. Those returning G.I.s should consider it. Jefferson envisioned a democracy full of farmers. I’d rather farm (organically mind you) than be part of war crime. Fuck war. (although I understand the point of your reply, I’m just standing up for the small farmers out there – ie. “peasant” farming isn’t necessarily feudalism)
    If you grow your own food you aren’t paying taxes on it and not contributing your hard earned money toward illegal war crime. Well, you might pay tax on the seed etc. but it’s less tax than store bought. Less transport also and your tractor could run on wood or veg oil if you are that into it… hint hint

  • Jaimie11

    I know all of this. And it is even more reason why we should resist and use every legal tool under the Constitution we can to confront the corruption and subversion of our rights, rights innate, inherent in us from the time of our births.

    I’m glad you know of all the ways the criminals can use their evil, sadistic weapons on us, and I am glad you are telling people about them. But your choice to sit down and shut up, to obey and consume, is your choice. You are not more intelligent than others for having made that choice, and you are acting subversively to freedom by suggesting to others that following their ethical consciences is the act of fools.

    What the government calls gang members does not change what they are. Those who are politically aware are freedom fighters. Others are youth with no options, degraded by an institutionalized attitude that because they are poor, school drop-outs, they are regarded as waste material, jadedly used as tools to provide evidence of the criminality of the “inferior”. The oligarchs find class warfare an effective means of reenforcing the status quo.

    Survival is not everything. Survival without dignity is living death.

    I remember one holiday season years ago in a town in Montana, or was it Idaho, a Jewish family placed a menorah in their front window in celebration of Hanukah. Shortly afterwards, they found their window broken by rocks they found on the floor with nasty notes attached.

    Their crime of being Jewish in a place where the majority was not had made them vulnerable. But you know what happened? This is the coolest thing – a day or two later, all of their neighbors had placed menorahs in their windows too, deflating the puffed up egos of hatred.

    Let them come and arrest everyone who supports Bradley Manning. He did the honorable thing – yes honor – a real human virtue. Let them come and find hundreds of thousands of people who support him, criminals all praising the criminal act of whistle-blowing, of pointing out that the Emperor who loves freedom and liberty for all, has no clothes, is naked except for the shameful cover of his transparent lies.

    And that’s why your ‘survival’ sans dignity, sans autonomy, sans self-respect is an empty, lifeless sham!

  • Anonymous

    Revolution doesn’t have to involve a gun, revolution can just be a different way of doing things. In a sense, since you aren’t consuming as much as others out there you are actually contributing less to the war machine than others. You could consider that to be sort of revolutionary. Doing the little day to day things in certain ways can be more revolutionary than calling for violence. Organic farming can have its rewards and I’m sure there are plenty of urban farmers in Boston. If you get good at it you can make decent money and at least have food. To me that’s where the real revolution is.

  • hourglass1

    thank you, dennis.

    manning was in the military. manning took an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the united states of america. unlike several generations of military brass, house and senate and white house occupants, manning took that oath seriously. no matter what the corporate media does or the unlawful government of the united states does, in the eyes of the people of the world, private manning is a real american hero.

    no matter how many state dinners rumsfeld, cheney, bush, and all the war cheerleaders, financiers and profiteers are given, no matter how many airports or avenues or federal buildings are posthumously named in their dishonor by other dishonorers – private bradley manning is a true american hero, a man of little power who took the responsibility of his oath seriously and who did (if he did) what he did because the chain of command right up to the very oval office wouldn’t act to force the military to honor its own mythical rules of engagement.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    Great, Dennis. Shine a spotlight.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    But he doesn’t like to move or get in front of anything.

  • Anonymous

    Good for him.

  • Guest

    All he needs to do is release the incriminating documents he claims to have on Bank of America and he’ll reach new heights of worldwide fame..and gratitude.

  • Anonymous

    I hate B of A. They screwed me multiple times. If Julie can send them up the river, I will be the first to applaud. But we will see if he can do it. His light seems to be dimming.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    If most of them are facing certain death, and will be locked in prison and killed, and if most of them are genuinely good people, shouldn’t you try and talk them out of a death trap?

    I have a suspicion that the government has agent provocateurs, people they train and pay to talk people into doing violent retarded things, like buying guns and using damaging rhetoric such as the case of Alex Jones or Glenn Beck where the solutions always involve buying as many guns as possible, and following the bible, and the belief that the “rich” or the “government” are evil. It’s never entire groups that are good or evil, it’s only individuals.

    The agent provocateurs keep us divided so that the governments and corporations can rule over us. Divided by race, religion, politics, class, basically divided by everything except conscience, ethics, and common humanity. Nationalism further divides people up forcing people to fight against other honorable people from other nations, and the sad part about this is it’s not currently possible to get beyond these divisions because we don’t have the global infrastructure, institutions or organizations to do it.

    “Survival is not everything. Survival without dignity is living death. ”

    I’m not willing to die. Sure if I were being tortured continuously then I could understand why someone might think survival is not everything, but I don’t have it in me to do anything other than to survive. And I don’t have a cause worth dying for, I live for myself and I die for myself.

    As far as freedom goes, there is no guarantee that freedom exists anywhere on this earth in any country.

    “The elephant in the room: our constitution doesn’t cover employee conduct; while we have rights as citizens, most of them are taken away when we cross the threshold of the workplace. And day after day they even start to extend into our home life. There isn’t a need for the government ‘big brother’; our employers are it…sometimes to the government’s benefit. …welcome to fifedom 2.0″

    As far as I know Freedom just does not exist for anybody in the complete form. However the people who appear to have the most of it are also the ones who are the most obedient towards government and corporations. This shows that obedience leads to freedom in the current structure, not any form of fighting. Fighting such as that which organized crime gangs, mafias, and revolutionaries do, typically leads to crackdowns such was the war on drugs, war on terror, war on the mafia, which results in hundreds of people raided in sweeps and locked in prison.

    The end result is a net loss of freedom as the laws become more strict. So I don’t really see how as a community or as a group freedom can be had. It seems it can only be had on an individual basis, doled out to individuals by the establishment.

    And I don’t agree with what Bradley Manning did. In specific I think leaks endanger more than government officials, but many innocent people. Intelligence sources may get revealed, or methods, or other details which could put peoples lives in danger. Bradley Manning released years worth of cables, put lives at risk, and should be punished.

    And he has to be punished to send a message for the reason that as government collects more information about regular people using sneaky and nefarious means, their computers will have much more private, secret, life threatening information about us stored. It’s not just government people who commit crimes and whose crimes end up in a database somewhere, your naked picture from walking through a scanner, any crime you’ve ever committed that got captured by some surveillance robot, anything you’ve ever done, your dossier with all your vulnerabilities, weaknesses, your FBI file with all the material to blackmail you with or hurt you with, the government has those kinds of secrets as well.

    Martin Luther King for example was blackmailed with a sex tape by the FBI according to the story. You can be sure the government has “dirt” on each and every activist or Bradley Manning supporter and if they don’t have it, they will find some way to get it. Once they have that dirt then you’ll understand why the government has to keep secrets. It has to keep your secrets too, not just the secrets of the corrupt top level government officials, but whatever you did wrong that you regret that they know about. And it’s not always the case that you have to do anything wrong to be set up to look like you did. Just look at Julian Assange with the rape accusations.

    So when you understand that everybody on earth has secrets, and everybody on earth wants their secrets kept, then you understand it’s better to be a secret keeper than a leaker. It’s more ethical to be a secret keeper because the innocent people whose lives would get destroyed by leaks of someone like Bradley Manning, just makes it not worth it in the end due to the collateral damage to the innocent people. Sure you’d take down some high level officials who might be corrupt but you’d also take down hundreds of thousands of completely innocent people around them who aren’t corrupt and who are honorable.

    Bradley Manning did not care about collateral damage. He was supposed to care about that being that he’s an American but apparently he didn’t. Julian Assange does not care because he’s not American, but he too has secrets of his which are now being leaked, the rape accusations and all the details are being leaked about him, along with stories about bribes he took from China and Israel.

    And this is why leaking is wrong. When large amounts of data get leaked it destroys lives and in some cases it can get people killed. Some of the people whose lives would be destroyed or who would be killed would be the “good guys” or “activists” who also have secrets, as nobody lives a perfect life and the governments basically has dossiers and secrets on everybody.

    Look at how our society is, if it found out tomorrow that every celebrity, every great person in society, everybody respected, every athlete and every role model in society, all the way up to Obama, is secretly a lying, cheating scumbag, how exactly does this do anything good for America? It would only further divide America in my opinion and this is why secrets must be kept at all costs, and why Manning whether he knew better or not, was hurting America.

  • Anonymous

    Having been a political activist all of my adult life I have learned that violence is never the way to fight political battles. If you think the only way to take a “strong stand” against political oppression is to start shooting, then I really feel sorry for you.

  • Anonymous

    I have a feeling we are on the same page regarding farmers, food production and the honorable tradition of the “gentleman farmer.” I was referring to a peasant farmer under feudalism as someone who does not own the land they farm and has no political rights whatsoever.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    To have an effective multi-party system, we would need a parliamentary government. But for any form of democracy to be effective, we must have social equality.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PS3ZJ2DB5BBCUXTGVCIECDZT64 One Species

    Bradley is a domestically held prisoner of war.
    The war upon us.

  • Anonymous

    He’s being tortured into some sort of confession no doubt.

  • Anonymous

    Isolation is a punishment. He hasn’t been convicted.

  • Anonymous

    I think we are way past the point where he should have released the BOA documents. Of course if you say that these docs are for insurance that means we may never see them.If the government believed they existed would they be trying so hard to bag him knowing the things are still out there.

  • Anonymous

    The Tea Party movement was the Republican Party’s attempt to reclaim their “fiscal integrity” bonfidies after the mess they made under Bush. Problem is it all worked too well and now they’re stuck with going against their own Vice Presidents advice that you don’t try to reduce the deficit during a recession.

  • http://twitter.com/D_Cassandra_D Denica De Foy

    Free Bradley! His treatment is simply un-American – or is that what we are now? Should we destroy the foundation of our Nation out of retribution? The freedom to know how our government operates is part of America – and torture is NOT part of MY AMERICA! The prison industrial complex / treatment of soldiers / and the Detainee status is against everything the USA is supposed to stand for. If we are indeed an idea, I don’t think we have lived up to that idea yet.

  • Anonymous

    I used to not like you but now I think you balance out the provocateurs that stop by here. Some people are passionate and others just want to start something up. Fortunately we haven’t seen any RS posters running around shooting people or blowing things up – yet. Revolution is a last resort and occurs when people believe they have nothing left to lose except their lives and they want that to count for something. If the contingencies were right, this could be you.

  • Anonymous

    but also, as even the indian-killer george washington said, “a
    democratic society cannot long exist in the presence of a standing
    army.” considering the indian wars only ended in 1900… been just 40
    years ‘peace’ here ever; if you can call that peace. praetorian guard
    just allows caesar and senate to pose.

    franklin wrote that the two parties must be almost diametrically opposed.

  • Anonymous

    They will torture him until he says what they want him to say, that Assange conspired with him. His detention is such conditions is an act of terrorism, attempting to get compliance through fear. We are torturers today. It is no longer unlawful. We seek to install a torturer as our front in Egypt as well, when we should be prosecuting him.
    I think it is impossible that Manning did this job alone, and that at the very least exceptionally bed security was being provided. Who colluded in this? Our government’s focus on this man means the others are getting away. Who stood to gain from the release of documents? There is another unidentified player in this. Let us hear what manning says.

  • http://twitter.com/vanderroos Judith van der Roos

    Well said Denica, but your words “His treatment is simply un-American” are inaccurate, in fact his treatment is very American (American government that is). Since WW2 America has trained most of the world’s torturers, just look at the School of the Americas (SOA) or come and speak with some of the ladies in our women’s group who survived torture at the hands of american advisors in Chile and Honduras. If you choose not to hear their words then look at the dreadful wounds they carry. Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, CIA black prisons in Yemen, Egypt, Lithuania, Mihail Kogalniceanu, ordan, Morocco, Syria, Libya, Tunisia, India, Pakistan, Russia, Uzbekistan, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Ethopia, Djibouti, Kenya, Poland, Romania, Bosnia, Kosovo, Thailand, Diego Garcia – 66 prison worldwide, no lawyers, no oversight, no human rights, indefinate detention, no trials.

  • Anonymous

    a) Julian never met Manning, has never had contact with Manning.

    b) Julian has said his information did not come from Manning

    c) Julian has sent at least $15,000 to Manning’s defense _despite_ a) and b).

    d) Julian has no power or authority to protect Manning from the corrupt U.S. Government.

  • Anonymous

    So much for the Home of the Brave.

    It’s cowards and mental midgets like you that keeps people like me from sticking my head up too far. When the time comes to act, you’ll shit yourself and turn people like me in to the SS. You’re the kind of person that turned Jews over to Hitler.

  • http://www.myspace.com/dermezel Megaprole

    http://www.counterpunch.org/goff11142003.html

    “What they didn’t tell me was that before I got there in 1970, the American armed forces had been burning villages, killing livestock, poisoning farmlands and forests, killing civilians for sport, bombing whole villages, and commiting rapes and massacres, and the people who were grieving and raging over that weren’t in a position to figure out the difference between me–just in country–and the people who had done those things to them.

    What they didn’t tell you is that over a million and a half Iraqis died between 1991 and 2003 from malnutrition, medical neglect, and bad sanitation. Over half a million of those who died were the weakest: the children, especially very young children.”

    ‘But there we were, ordered into someone else’s country, playing the role of occupier when we didn’t know the people, their language, or their culture, with our head full of bullshit our so-called leaders had told us during training and in preparation for deployment, and even when we got there. There we were, facing people we were ordered to dominate, but any one of whom might be pumping mortars at us or firing AKs at us later that night. The question we stated to ask is who put us in this position?

    In our process of fighting to stay alive, and in their process of trying to expel an invader that violated their dignity, destroyed their property, and killed their innocents, we were faced off against each other by people who made these decisions in $5,000 suits, who laughed and slapped each other on the back in Washington DC with their fat fucking asses stuffed full of cordon blue and caviar.

    They chumped us. Anyone can be chumped.

    That’s you now. Just fewer trees and less water.”

    This information has to be known so the public can strengthen its call to End the War immediately. It is an ILLEGAL WAR. And Soldiers DO NOT have to obey their commanders in an ILLEGAL WAR because the basis of authority has already been undermined. We are supposed to control the military by our laws- that’s the Chain of Command.

    By ignoring the Chain of Command from Civilian to Military Leadership they have cut their feet out from under them. Why should a soldier have to obey a commander, if the commander is not obeying the laws by which he is granted authority? That’s like the local Lord invoking Feudal Rights after he just shot the King.

  • Anonymous

    When governments do that, their leaders are declared international criminals by the international powers, and their crimes against humanity keep them from ever stepping foot in any civilized nation ever again.

    And from the ashes of the American Genocide you seem to think would happen (it won’t because the power mongers need to keep this nation afloat lest all their wealth evaporate), other nations would facilitate revolutionaries.. and you’re also presuming that our military would wage a wide scale war against it’s own citizens. You’re wrong. … although, if you keep your head in the sand long enough, the corrupt leadership might be able to amass enough soulless zombies to do it (you know, like Blackwater).

    Keep voting party ticket. The Two Party Lie is just on track to destroy everyone and everything, with your help.. no big deal.

  • Anonymous

    In other words, your life is complete shit.. and instead of fight for a better life for you and everyone, you would rather snivel and crawl in the dirt for the rest of your miserable existence.

    For some reason, you seem to think simply existing is more important than living. Are you religious by chance? Because you sure sound like the people the ruling elite use religion to control.

  • Anonymous

    So, in one post you say you can’t pay your bills, but then here suggest living a “prosperous life”? You’re NOT living a prosperous life, you’re being ABUSED.. and you’re suggesting (overall) that simply existing is enough, even if you have to eat animal feces for nutrients, because at least you’re “alive”.

    Stop and think for a minute. If everyone acted like you do, we’d never have formed this country in the first place. We’d all be “peasants” living under the yolk of cruel tyrants. You are the quintessential “sheep”, beast of burden to be used and abused and tossed aside to die once your usefulness is deemed complete.

    If all you want to do is spew negativity and tell those willing to die for their freedoms and rights that they shouldn’t because you won’t, you should find something better to do with your time than post here and spread your weakness and ignorance. You’re a disease, and it’s starting to look more and more like you’re a PsyOp plant working for the likes of Cheney and Koch Bros.

    You’re a sniveling little pissant, and your weakness and cowardice is not productive. Go away.

  • Anonymous

    Those aren’t farmers, they are free range slaves.

  • Anonymous

    Putting a mentally deficient Manning in front of the public is a win-win for us. Either he was nuts before he went into the military and they need to clean up their recruitment system, or he was made nuts by the military (or confinement) and that system needs to get cleaned up. Either way, it’s progress that can’t happen until the public can see what’s going on.

    Out of sight, out of mind. That’s how they are keeping control. Why do you think they banned images of returning caskets from Iraq? That imagery is what helped shut down Vietnam.

  • Anonymous

    Looking at the TeaTards as where “current” ideals are, Kucinich and the Constitution are regressive.. imagine that, wanting to regress to peace and prosperity and rights for all.

  • Anonymous

    Well, if they can get him under anesthesia to remove a foreign object from his intestines..

    I’m just saying, every surgery has risks.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, because everyone in Sweden, Switzerland, Denmark, Britain, New Zealand, … the list goes on and on.. they are all “starving in the streets”.

    I nominate you for the biggest douche bag in the thread.. and that’s quite the achievement given that TBM is posting here.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, we fight back.. but we don’t have Media Outlets so our fighting is marginalized, if not completely ignored.

  • Anonymous

    There are 10s, if not 100s of thousands of reservists and national guard types. If the shit hits the fan, not only will the bulk of them fight for their families and neighborhoods, but you’ll also see 1/3 of the military walk away from the power structure (most of them carrying their guns and grenades).

    Yes, if we descend into civil war it will get very messy. But I’d rather die fighting for change than be muzzled into servitude by the deafening screeching of the corporate media controlled narrative.

    And never forget, there are a lot of people out there with military training that walked away from the military for a plethora of reasons, including not supporting the MIC and the Oligarchs as was expected of them. Some ex-military signed up to defend the Constitution and Human Rights, not profits of the top 2% through global meddling.

  • Anonymous

    Reagen believed in UFOs, even claiming to have seen them on two occasions, and he was vaunted as a demigod.

  • Anonymous

    You really are that stupid, aren’t you. He wasn’t suing the government, he was suing a private company that has government contracts and caused injury to a citizen.

    I find it more amusing that you consider “public service” to be something dirty and disdainful when the Founding Fathers considered it one of the most Patriotic things you could do.

    You’re the poster child for the rot that has consumed this once great nation.

  • Richard

    Are we no longer innocent until “proven” guilty in this country? Where has our country’s morals gone when we practice torture of an accused and ignore the out crys against it? Where has our country’s morals gone when we confine and torture a lowly enlisted man for ,as yet, unproven crimes, yet we allow real (admitted) war criminals, bush, cheney, et al., to walk around freely?? Our country has become an oligarchy.

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ hounddogg

    you are not alone in your feelings about TBM…he constantly contradicts himself and his posts are designed to confuse and promote a feeling of hopelessness…if people would quit feeding him he would go away…

  • Anonymous

    You’re failing to accept facts and evidence right in front of you. You can’t talk with the likes of PR because he’s inhumane, sub-human, someone that condones abusing others for profit and entertainment.

    At what point do you stop trying to talk to abusers and just rid the world of them?

  • Anonymous

    Then why weren’t they making noise while BushCo was destroying the country, why did they only show up in force once the black liberal (sic) was elected?

  • Anonymous

    This shows the core rot of right-wingers. You want special classes of citizens that you can suspend rights for, so long as you don’t have to be one of the abused.

    It doesn’t MATTER what he’s ACCUSED of, nor does it matter what he’s found GUILTY of.. The Constitution guarantees “no cruel or unusual punishment”, period. Since you clearly don’t care about that, you’re clearly unAmerican and should be deported immediately.

  • Anonymous

    The President could intervene at this very moment, but he chooses not to. To become President, you must sell your soul to your major donors and their aggendas. Once in office, you are forced to be deliberately blind to human decency and truth if the truth is an embarrassment or politically difficult. There is no longer leadership, only management dodging crisis.

  • Anonymous

    A big part of the reason that DK’s Presidential Campaign was not treated seriously by the media and DC was because he has always valued truth over what is politically acceptable. That kind of integrity is never tolerated by the monied interests that have so much to loose from an honest government. The military has incredible power and the President is probably the one that can challenge this travesty. The fact that he chooses not to indicates the level of culpability of our government. Wiki has embarrassed us, and that is only what we know to date, which is miniscule considering what we are told hasn’t been published. We have much to be ashamed of. Imagine if we knew more.

  • Rob

    I don’t know the total, but your ancestors weren’t among them.

  • Anonymous

    Because as you know, there is only a deficit when a Democrat is in the White House.

  • Anonymous

    I am very curious what it would take for the American public to come together in a collective force like the people of Egypt. If Manning was put against the wall and shot would that do it? I honestly don’t think it would because the majority of American people would not be personally effected in an immediate way. The average US citizen is for the most part unconcerned about issues outside of their own personal walls.

  • Anonymous

    I am afraid the American citizens have become weak and dependant of others to do the work for them.
    They are too wounded up in their own personal world to do a d… thing.

    These Global empires and elected officials know this and is why they are even arrogant in their actions and the BS they feed up.

    Can you just imagine what would have happened 40 years ago if the elected officials would have done the illegal/criminal actions or passed the illegal/criminal policies they have. Especially in the passed ten years.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Let me ask you, have you stopped paying your taxes?

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    I bet you pay your taxes like a good boy.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    You are an obvious agent provocateur. This is exactly the attitude I’m talking about.

    I bet you don’t have a problem paying taxes for the government that you hate, but then you are critical of people who don’t want to fight the government that you are paying taxes to make unbeatable?

    Let me ask you something else, since you pay your taxes and obviously follow the law, why are you trying to provoke violence and terrorism out of people?

    This isn’t the 1800s. This isn’t the 1700s. This isn’t the 1900s. It’s the 2000s. Revolution just isn’t going to happen, and even if it were to happen it wouldn’t be a bunch of pitch fork carrying peasants who make it happen.

    And look at you, trying to make people do dumb suicidal acts. You are exactly the sort of person who would be paid to say to a kid “Lets form a terrorist group and take on the government”, and supply the training, the bomb, and everything, and then turn FBI informant because you don’t really intend to die for the revolution, you just want to set people up.

    So you want to fight the government? Why are you still paying taxes? Answer that one buddy.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Why are you paying taxes for a government you hate?

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Thats exactly what you want isn’t it? You want a civil war? You sure talk like you do.

    Don’t you realize a civil war wont be fought with guns? We have nuclear physicists in this country, we have biologists in this country, we aren’t like Egypt where we’d be forced to toss rocks. We’d be tossing dirty bombs, biological weapons, and fighting on a level your impetuous mind cannot conceive of.

    No, it would be bad for the entire world and entire global economy if the USA has a civil war. It would possibly destroy the USA. In fact there is no guarantee that any of us would survive.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    First you’d have to identify all the informants. Since you can’t do that, you have no one you can trust.

    Second you don’t have any useful weapons to go against the military. Do you have biological and chemical weapons? They could unleash the goddamn flu on us.

    Or they could design the flu only to go after specific individuals and then those individuals would get sick and die. Once again it wouldn’t look anything like Egypt because Americans are the most rich and technologically advanced population on the earth. We have no shortage of individuals with Phds in physics, chemistry, biology, etc.

    It’s simple. Americans aren’t revolutionaries. The revolutionaries are all in prison, and the rest aren’t treated as real Americans by the government which will do anything to stop them including assassinate them. It calls them “terrorists”.

    You want to be a terrorist?

    Or you can just stop paying taxes if you want non violent protest. It worked well for Wesley Snipes.

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ hounddogg

    the Mid-Continental shelf is being devoured by angry rabbits…

  • ghostof911

    You have a point. Fortunately he only lost a tooth. He would have been at great risk had he swallowed the metal object that broke his tooth.

  • ghostof911

    What you say is true about putting Manning in front of the public exposing the shortcomings of the military. Unfortunately, exposing Manning to ridicule it is not a situation that will only have negative consequences for him.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Not at all. I wont even hang around people like you. I’m not a revolutionary, and when the time comes I’ll stay as far away from people like you as I can because I think people like you are all talk.

    Usually the people who talk the most about revolution are the ones who turn people in.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    See for yourself chad… http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/07/assassinations
    I bet you still pay your taxes like a good boy.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. I’m just pushing the local food production. Here are interesting cheap gasifier plans for cheap hot water and heat etc. The less fossil fuel we consume the lower the demand and the lower prices for others (if the prices weren’t so fixed) and the less taxes to the King who puts that money into the war machine for those Oil Lobbyists etc etc, plus fire is just plain fun (just be careful, playing with CO is dangerous! -Keep it outside!) But with a heat exchanger this gizmo can provide cheap fossil fuel heat and hot water.
    Instructables on how to stop (or be less a part of…) Tyranny!
    http://www.instructables.com/id/Large-portable-wood-gasifier-Campfire-in-a-can/

  • Anonymous

    We could cut down on con-sumption and figure out how to pay less taxes, at least aim towards being more out of the war monger loop. No need to be a martyr. Be vocal and push truth. Most people don’t know and don’t care what is going on elsewhere. It’s still important to support Manning and DK, at least vocally. More anti-war protest is necessary. Obama needs to be identified as a Trojan Horse. His Kingship is more continuation of the Bush NeoCon Illuminati Corporate world takeover. Cheap wide screens from China’s slave labor force will keep most people docile though. But being able to switch off the Grid can save cash for us Plebeians and at least not contribute to the war machine. Perhaps more emphasis is needed on teaching about the VietNam conflict in High School? We might as well prepare for the greater disasters of Global Warming has to offer us… it can be amusing and thought provoking. Science is fun. Push your watercar ’til it goes!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G33oNV1QQFQ&feature=feedu

  • Anonymous

    I agree that the military/corporate/political beast is more capable, more equipped, more devious and determined to completely control the world than ever before. And maybe they have already achieved their goal. At any rate, they are and always be enabled in this effort by an apathetic public that will close down to the realities of climate change, unsustainable consumption of resources and an out of control pentagon and focus fully on sports, reality programs and the mind numbing, regurgitated crap that is our national news media. We are very near the point where everyone is on their own.

  • Anonymous

    What I believe it will take to cause the American public to come together in a collective force is seeing the blood. When the sheeple see the blood of their own being shed in the streets, the mob will arise…(see Steinbeck’s “In Dubious Battle”). The real problem there is that the anti-christ rabble rousers will have already been placed amongst the crowd in order to direct the mob mind. Constant obfuscation and misdirection will redirect the mob’s energy and focus from their true zionist controlled enemies upon a “controlled opposition”. Revolution will occur just as the taskmasters have planned. Violence will ensue. Arms and munitions sales will enrich our enemies, all because the mass of people are too stupid and self-deceived to come to rational conclusions. Rational conclusions like maybe I should accept a little responsibility for my own life…..

  • Anonymous

    all government except for the government which shall one day rest upon the shoulders of King Jesus is illegitimate. All governments today were established upon military conquest and since the last to leave the battlefield is the victor, we are actually the victors right now. Collective belief in a lie is their only power, but it is all they need. Nil carborundum illegitimus

  • http://twitter.com/akaSassinak A. David

    As if your “President” really had any real power anymore!

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