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Air Force legal office: All of our members’ families can be prosecuted for reading WikiLeaks

By Stephen C. Webster
Monday, February 7, 2011 13:53 EDT
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Almost anyone in the United States, and especially soldiers or the families of US Air Force members, could be under the threat of prosecution by the military, according to a recent “guidance” document issued by the Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC) public affairs office.

The advisory took on new significance Monday as Julian Assange, founder of the secrets peddling website, was in a British court to argue against his extradition to Sweden, where he was wanted for questioning in relation to allegations of sexual assault and impropriety.

“Classified information does not automatically become declassified as a result of unauthorized disclosure, and accessing the WikiLeaks site would introduce potentially classified information on unclassified networks,” the Air Force Material Command explained, noting policy well-documented since the start of WikiLeaks’ release of US diplomatic cables.

“Guidance issued by the Office of the Secretary of the Air Force on Aug. 9, 2010, makes clear that Air Force personnel should not access the WikiLeaks website to view or download the publicized classified information.”

But, they add:

Within AFMC, and across the Air Force, the WikiLeaks site has been blocked to protect the network. Other sites discovered to be posting the leaked information have also been blocked.

According to AFMC’s legal office, Air Force members — military or civilian — may not legally access WikiLeaks at home on their personal, non-governmental computers, either.

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Also according to the legal office, “if a family member of an Air Force employee accesses WikiLeaks on a home computer, the family member may be subject to prosecution for espionage under U.S. Code Title 18 Section 793. The Air Force member would have an obligation to safeguard the information under the general guidance to safeguard classified information.”

It was unclear whether RawStory.com, or other websites which have carried information related to WikiLeaks’ US State Dept. documents, were currently being blocked on military networks.

The Air Force legal office decision could pave the way for prosecutors in the US to file espionage charges against Assange. The WikiLeaks founder’s attorney has argued that if he is extradited to Sweden he’ll be sent to the US where he may end up in Guantanamo Bay or even dead by assassination or capital punishment.

It remained unclear whether the US could prosecute WikiLeaks for doing essentially what other mainstream news publications do on a regular basis. In fact, newspapers like The Guardian and The New York Times published almost as many of the US diplomatic documents as WikiLeaks, so an argument could be made that if one is prosecuted others may be too.

That argument was not lost on New York Times Executive Editor Bill Keller, who said during a recent Colombia University panel that he didn’t believe Assange deserved to be prosecuted.

“It’s very hard to conceive of a prosecution of Julian Assange that wouldn’t stretch the law in a way that would be applicable to us,” he said. “Whatever one thinks of Julian Assange, certainly American journalists, and other journalists, should feel a sense of alarm at any legal action that tends to punish Assange for doing essentially what journalists do. That is to say, any use of the law to criminalize the publication of secrets.”

No charges have been filed against any members of the military of their families, with the exception of Pvt. Bradley Manning, who was charged with delivering massive caches of documents to WikiLeaks. There was some speculation weeks ago that the US may try to accuse Assange of coaxing Manning into the intelligence leak, but he has denied even hearing Manning’s name until after it became a news item.

Stephen C. Webster
Stephen C. Webster
Stephen C. Webster is the senior editor of Raw Story, and is based out of Austin, Texas. He previously worked as the associate editor of The Lone Star Iconoclast in Crawford, Texas, where he covered state politics and the peace movement’s resurgence at the start of the Iraq war. Webster has also contributed to publications such as True/Slant, Austin Monthly, The Dallas Business Journal, The Dallas Morning News, Fort Worth Weekly, The News Connection and others. Follow him on Twitter at @StephenCWebster.
 
 
 
 
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  • Anonymous

    Still in their basements they sit.

    Scared and typing.

  • Bry Willis

    Big Brother, LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anton-Onszers/100001699883195 Anton Onszers

    Interesting thought: what if this “US Service Personnel” would just “find” printouts of these leaks? Let’s say, in the bus, the subway, or – god beware – in their letter boxes.

    Now, that would be pose serious challenge to those MPs, wouldn’t it? Harharhar (dirtiest laugh I could come up with… :-)

  • Anonymous Bosch

    That’s the stupidest f*cking thing I’ve heard all month.

    Is “who smelt it dealt it” really going to become official government policy?

    Morans.

  • Anonymous

    How scared they seem to be, They will go to any lengths to hide their crimes against humanity. But the truth will always find a way to get out. Stop one leak and another will erupt. So then make it a crime to read the truth, what a innovative idea.

  • Guest

    “…and the land of theeeee freeeee….”

  • Anonymous

    Yeah,yeah. You’re under arrest for malicious reading.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure glad I don’t live in one of those countries that has repression an oppression and people can’t access the internet! I don’t know what I would do if I lived in one of those dictatorships. I’m so glad I live in America where we have freedom of speech and assembly and where the Supreme Court has even rule that there is no such thing as prior restraint so that George “W” Bush, for example can’t stop the New York Times from printing a story about government surveillance of millions of telephone calls a week before an election. I would hate to live in a country like that!

  • Anonymous

    What happened to freedom of the press and free speech? Now our reading material is being censored? These young computer geeks are merely trying to take the governments of the world, out of the hands of the ruling elite. The wealthy have flaunted their money and power and dared the peons to challenge them. They took the dare and ran with it! The kids of today are merely trying to take back their future from the rich and greedy ruling elite!

  • Anonymous

    Is it time to start gearing up our private arsenals and stocking up on ammo?

    What fucking country is this US Air Force in by the way?

  • Anonymous

    So much for the “Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave” Don’t forget this is the same Air Force in which Air Force Academy Staff Found Promoting Religion. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/23/politics/23academy.html

  • Anonymous

    Further more, these same people want you to cover your ears if you are within earshot of anyone reading any leaked information.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    LOL, so now they cannot even read newspapers. Pathetic.

    Threats such as this will alienate the military further and lead to bigger leaks of key info. Bank on it. When you prance around telling lies that you support and defend the Constitution and then enact anti-Constitutional practices and procedures, you are a hypocrite. This guidance document is the lowest level of anti-Freedom screed produced to date regarding WikiLeaks.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Yep, thought crimes.

  • http://twitter.com/PeterNoTail Peter No Tail

    “Classified information does not automatically become declassified as a result of unauthorized disclosure. and ***accessing the WikiLeaks site WOULD introduce potentially classified information on unclassified networks***”Consider this a friendly warning from the USAF to all web users and please remember: the US government wants greater control over the internet merely to combat piracy and to thwart the superscary muslimofascists, nothing more. Have a nice day :)

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure they will try and make an example of someone so that everyone will be afraid to come out of their homes and read the truth about anything.

  • Anonymous

    “We will begin with prosecutions of those who read them and move on to those who think about wikileaks. Independent thought shall NOT be tolerated and any decision made to defend the Constitution instead of your commanders will be considered a violation to the Fourth Reich”

  • Anonymous

    I am really completely disgusted with America right now! How FOUL must it get to the People before something is done. Any army officer who believes he is above the Constitution should be found guilty at trial and shot for treason. You FKN military heathens disgust me!

  • Javaman

    They can’t scrub the documents, so they are now trying to scrub minds.

    very nice. Pass the victory gin.

  • Anonymous

    If they prosecute Assange then it means america has now become just as bad as any communist or muslim country they are against. They’ve systematically dumbed down the citizens (especially in certain areas) to a point that they know nothing about the rest of the world and what the truth really is. It is very sad.

  • Anonymous

    See this is when you know we are in a police state.

    Something that is readily accessible to everyone, that is very likely already accessed is now illegal, yet with no way of proving if you actually committed the crime.

    The MILITARY says they can arrest you. But this is not a civilian offense? So the military can arrest and enforce laws on people WHO ARE NOT PART OF THE MILITARY that civilian police can not? Sounds like Egypt to me.

    Secondly how do they know if you read something. Maybe you accidentally clicked on the link and never read a word. What if you read it and dont know what you are reading? What if you didnt click on the link at all but someone slipped it into your newspaper and you read every single one accidentally?

    What about classified material that was made public but is made secret again after it is released like the Bush administration did. What if they decided to arrest everyone who read catcher in the rye? Or had no war for oil bumper stickers….oh wait, right….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lon-Warneke/1409625620 Lon Warneke

    Hitler himself would have ordered his Luftwaffe to do the same thing.
    We all know how that one turned out.

  • Anonymous

    Oh there is lots to criticize America for, for sure… though I’m curious what country you are from… change is not easy… ask the Egyptians… what would you suggest I do?

  • Anonymous

    Everybody is a “criminal” except the rotten unrelenting evil criminal bastards who committed the frickin crimes. Give us a break already. Arrest the real criminals for God’s sake.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lon-Warneke/1409625620 Lon Warneke

    You just gave me an idea for a new type of no-leak earplugs that I’m sure would sell well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lon-Warneke/1409625620 Lon Warneke

    Might work if you could stock up on a few F-16 fighter jets, some B-2 Bombers, guided missiles, Predator Drones, etc….
    Otherwise, the physics of it isn’t on your side.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    “and accessing the WikiLeaks site would introduce potentially classified information on unclassified networks,” ”

    Most bastardized logic I’ve ever seen. Hey, MORONS.. that “potentially classified” information is ALREADY on unclassified networks. how the fuck do you think “families” would see it from their home computers?!

    More gaming and fucking around at trying to find a way to twist logic and law to abuse people they don’t like.

    We need to dump this corrupt government before it puts us all in prison.

  • Anonymous

    If you read my posts you’ll see all my suggestions to fix the US and our economy but it would be illegal for me to suggest what we really need to do to fix things – just like it was in Nazi Germany.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    It smells like they are planning on taking Julian out, or illegally locking him up (hey, they illegally invaded two entire countries).. Once he gets pinched, the “big file” gets opened, and it seems the Government (who’s been saying “meh, harmless stuff”) knows they will be fucked. As a hedge, they threaten all their goons to “never find out” about the CRIMES the government engaged in..

    I can see it now.. “Airman, do blah blah”.. “Sir, no sir. It has come to my attention that the Government acted illegally and immorally and I refuse your unlawful order”.. “Fine Airman. You’re going off to prison now for espionage. That’s the only way you could have known we committed those crimes.. uh.. because we made it that way!. Buh bye”.

  • Anonymous

    I’m thinking of a crime right now…

  • Anonymous

    When one of the three branches of government run amok it’s up to the public and other two branches to fix the broken bits. It’s clear the Air Force no longer represents America’s best interests.

    I recall when the Air Force sent nukes on joy rides across the nation that after a review generals were removed and the situation monitored for a return to compliance. Threatening the public and the many patriotic members serving this nation no less a crisis. This is your chance to shine Congress and the courts if Obama can’t address this issue in a timely manner.

  • Anonymous

    This is too big, … their is no putting the Genie back in the bottle now. Even if they silence any and all voices, along with putting blinders on it’s citizens eye’s in the US, … the rest of the world will tell us.

    I just wish that the US could police itself, instead of other country’s doing it.

    US spreads democracy around the globe, … HA! We only spread Bullshit with the force of a GUN!

  • Anonymous

    Calm down. The Air Force isn’t saying anything that all other federal organizations with any smattering of legal knowledge are not already saying.

    I don’t care one way or the other about the leaked documents. I just wanted to point out that the air force legal people aren’t being idiots about this and their advice is not limited to the families of service members. The espionage laws apply to all people in the country and all US citizens.

    Personally, I was already of the opinion that there are no elected officials that I’d trust to look after my lunchbox, let alone the government.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6OSYTHKLFNG5CIA7NYRB7E7KRA Spy

    Total bullshit! The U.S. government will never admit that the Wikileaks documents are classified thus no one can be prosecuted!

    Additionally, none of the documents have proper classification markings and without them, they are not classified. The rule is nothing is classified until it’s classified properly.

  • Anonymous

    It is totally false to claim that if I, a person, come across any written material in the world that I may not read it. This person should lose his job and perhaps face prosecution for his terrorizing remarks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bailey/1083393808 Peter Bailey

    There seems to be a certain Air Force attitude (my dad was one) that they are superior angels or something. When you really can fly and deliver thunderbolts from the sky with the flick of a finger you start to feel kind of god-like. And I suppose the attitude carries over into Bird level and up management, meaning Colonels and above, the old guard who make decisions.
    So if some loyal, skilled 25 year crew chief’s visiting nephew curiously links to WL on a weekend while said crew chief is risking his life on an important job, that guy loses his career, the kid goes to jail, and everyone is disgraced as traitors? WTF?

  • Anonymous

    When are we going to begin the war crimes prosecutions for Chair Force leaders who authorised the use of depleted uranium on or near civilian populace centers, which has caused innumerable deaths, cancers, birt defects etc. That is what the Chair Force legal team should be concentrating on instead of this nonsense. The Chair Force is the worst branch in the services, without a doubt.

  • Ron1127

    This is quite the opposite of: “The truth will set you free.”

  • Anonymous

    How about a Wikileaks audiobook. Would that fall under the guidelines? It’s not like they are actually reading” the documents if they are listening to it. It would also help the blind and illiterate….aka GOP base.

  • Anonymous

    AIR FORCE HEADS SHOULD GET THROWN IN JAIL FOR THEIR AGGRESSIVE, AT TIMES VIOLENT, ..CHRISTIAN DOMINIONIST PROSELYTIZING CRUSADE INSIDE THE
    U S A MILITARY…………….GO TO …… militaryreligiousfreedom.org
    find out what they are really up to………………

  • Anonymous

    BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

  • shinyorbs

    wow. Con’s can out a CIA agent, a sitting POTUS can lie us into invading a sovereign Nation, yet US Citizens are being threatened for merely reading something? Please, bite me.

  • Anonymous

    So you ARE an American (or at least consider yourself one)? Because if it is “illegal for you to suggest what we really need to do to fix things” that simply means you wish to assassinate people using murder and fear to achieve politcal ends that you cant through a legal and democratic process. SO YOU ARE A TERRORIST! And a traitor!

  • Anonymous

    Mothers of River City!
    Heed the warning before it’s too late!
    Watch for the tell-tale sign of corruption!
    The moment your son leaves the air strip,
    Does he rebuckle his parachute below the knee?
    Is there a nicotine stain on his index finger?
    A WikiLeaks cable hidden in the salt mine?
    Is he starting to memorize jokes from Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO?
    Are certain words creeping into his conversation?
    Words like ‘swell?”
    And ‘so’s your old man?”
    Well, if so my friends,
    Ya got trouble,
    Right here in River city!
    With a capital “T”
    And that rhymes with “P”
    And that stands for Pool.
    We’ve surely got trouble!
    Right here in River City!
    Remember the Maine, Plymouth Rock and the Golden Rule!
    Oh, we’ve got trouble.
    We’re in terrible, terrible trouble.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WE3JWKWUY2R62UY5JMETECQBHE Dimitri Sokolov

    Wow. That’s bullshit.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    I hope y’all reading this can see the cascading effect already happening and think of Martin Niemöller.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SR76HE7EH7QEKLYFPZ6OIJ3U3E a darwinian

    Uh, what Wikileaks? Never heard of it. Never read it. No need to investigate me further.

  • Anonymous

    So I’m guessing the Air Force will go after the NY Times for printing some of those classified memos, and then they will go after all the people who subscribe to that paper too? Hmmm, I”m calling BS.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah air force members who subscribe to the NY Times can now be prosecuted under espionage charges.

  • http://voxxrocks.com/blog/ HIStory Indeed

    Apparently, when you are trying to keep the back door shenanigans of world domination a secret, you have to go to absurd lengths…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZDBCUTOR7XW24NTIF7XEHLJ34Q Oz

    The Error Farce = number one drone program. Time for the worker bees to shove them out of the hive.

    Okay, that was a mixed metaphor.

  • Anonymous

    While I agree with the general sentiment, I must point out that you are misreading the story:

    “(..) Air Force members — military or civilian — may not legally access WikiLeaks at home on their personal, non-governmental computers, either.”

    “If a family member of an Air Force employee accesses WikiLeaks on a home computer, the family member may be subject to prosecution for espionage under U.S. Code Title 18 Section 793..”

    So for now they’re saying it only applies to members of the air force and their families.

  • Anonymous

    The Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC) public affairs office, must be where the military sends their brainless morons. Okay, I confess, I have read wikileaks; come get me.

  • Anonymous

    LOL! What kind of backwards hillbilly logic is that. Are you aware that speaking out against the US could get you killed under dictators that are supprted by the US administration.

    If you had an actual brain you could find where I live just by googling me. And, so far in this country, it still isn’t illegal to think things as long as you don’t act on them. And, in fact, saying that the current and past administration should be tried for treason and shot for treason if they’re found guilty of a treasonous act that warrants it is not illegal.

    Good lord dude! did you get your law degree out of a 2nd grade reader. I’d call you a moron if it wasn’t so degrading to morons everywhere.

    Why don’t you come get me and turn me in you piece of sh!t slopped headed poor excuse for guano?

  • Anonymous

    of course you could be being facetious in which case forget everything I just said. :)

  • Anonymous

    According to our Constitution, we are not supposed to even have a standing military.

    If this is a democracy, we should have access to all information.

    How can the people run our country without access to information?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U4CB4JMBKUBO6NL2RNREZDZUEA Freeky_Fried_Chicken

    “Classified information” = Truth, and there is nothing fascists hate more than the Truth of their nefarious ways being disseminated amongst The People.

  • PrissyPatriot®

    These JAGS have a bad case of God syndrome, since military families never signed their rights away (excluding retaliation by violating their civil rights). Who knew the evangelicals had even infiltrated military law? I’ve heard that rumor about the AF, guess its true.

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ Stumptownhero

    Hey Captain I think I saw a horse running around loose!

    Private I told you that if you saw a horse running lose that you were NOT to look at it! Now I’ll have to throw you in the Brigg!

    If your family asks why you are in the Brigg remind them that unlike the balance of Americans neither you nor they have the right to look at lose horses running around! If they look at those horses too they will join you in the Brigg!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CS4S4JMWM64MC7IPSDDBF7OIJU Barbara

    Toothpaste, go back in the tube!

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ Stumptownhero

    And that parents of River City is why your kids need to play in the band!

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ Stumptownhero

    Oh but they ARE doddering dolts because it is a losing legal position that will cost millions of dollars to prosecute and take years and years to reach an enforceable decision.

    What this is REALLY all about is intimidation. Intimidation of the grunts and intimidation of the press!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

    If I recall correctly…in Nazi Germany people were forbidden to listen to Allied radio broadcasts. Striking similarity.

  • Anonymous

    To any military and police personnel reading this, know that when the time comes you have a DUTY to disobey unlawful orders. While I am somewhat skeptical about the fact that this organizing popped up only after Obama was nominated for president I think the core values of the oathkeepers organization are ones that should be followed by all no matter what political party is in power.

    Orders We Will Not Obey

    1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.

    2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects — such as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons.

    3. We will NOT obey any order to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to trial by military tribunal.

    4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state, or to enter with force into a state, without the express consent and invitation of that state’s legislature and governor.

    5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which that state entered the Union.

    7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

    8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control” during any emergency, or under any other pretext. We will consider such use of foreign troops against our people to be an invasion and an act of war.

    9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies, under any emergency pretext whatsoever.

    10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

    We all need to be ready – the moment when we may have to fight back is closer than some might think. When you remove the ability of men to resolve their issues peacefully they will resort to violence. How can I peacefully make the government stop giving trillions to the banks? Bush started it and I voted for Obama, for change but Obama continued it. How do I get my civil liberties back when both republicans and democrats keep taking more. The answer is becoming clearer and clearer by the day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-W-Roads/629696293 Chris W Roads

    How did airforce officials decide that wikileaks was not suitable to view ???
    wouldnt they have to view them to make that decision ????

  • Anonymous

    They will never be able to take down the thousands of mirror sites around the world. These fascists know they cannot stop WikiLeaks and it’s driving them insane.

  • http://www.bobcatarts.com/ Robert Gandy

    1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.

    2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects — such as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons.

    …Does this include airports, travel hubs or other check points where citizens are disarmed, sexually groped and strip-searched without warrant?

    10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

    …Does this include “Free Speech Zones” set up to keep protesters away from large meetings by government and corporate officials?

    If so, you’re a tad late.

  • Anonymous

    Where are the damn Thought Police when you need them?

    In the USAF.

  • Anonymous

    Well there you have it. Our Military protecting our rights to not have rights

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Zentrails/100001475536421 Bob Zentrails

    Yep they can’t make it any more clear than that. Plus they will threaten to take away security clearances. Good Ol’ Barry McCaffery who launched the Iraqi Retreat Massacre four days after the Iraqi cease fire actually made family members of his “Drug Czar” officer staff get top secret clearances along with their husbands.

    It’s an old military power play by Generals: Do what I say or I’ll take away you and your spouse’s security clearance, that way your spouse will lose her civilian job too just to make the pot sweeter. You really needed those security clearances to fight the “drug war” didn’t you Good Ol’ Barry as you tried to build your own private army there in “Fort Bilss. Fortunately, the only piece of advice that Daddy Bush gave W was, for the love of God, get rid of that scumbag McCaffery. So he quit even before W. was sworn in.

    Good ol Barry has opinions about the revolt in Egypt as well. I turn the TV off when I see his ugly mug.

  • Anonymous

    I am not late with anything – I do not work for and will not work for the TSA and I would never constrain First amendment rights to any “free speech zones”. This is about PERSONAL responsibility not what others do..

  • mjcc1987

    If this is not the dumbest shit I have ever heard of. Does the Air Force suggest it has seized the U.S., shut down the Constitution and is now running the show. These fucks are so stupid.

  • mjcc1987

    The internal DoD news aggregator (the EarlyBird) quotes from Wikileaks – I think Air Force officials should submit themselves to GITMO and get water boarded ASAP along with their family and pets. Lead by example

  • mjcc1987

    That’s Treason.

  • Anonymous

    What is treason? You can only commit treason against your country not your government, you should never confuse the two. It was treason for Stalin to send intellectuals to gulags, it was treason for Hitler to disarm his populace and outlaw free expression. It was an act of treason for every thug who has ever helped his government subjugate, repress, imprison, and murder his countrymen. It was NEVER an act of treason for those brave souls who refused to do as those governments ordered. The government can call it treason, they can convict and throw you in jail or murder you for treason but it will NEVER BE TREASON. And if you are willing to sit here and say that refusing to do these things is treason then you can go ahead and get your brown shirt on right now. It does not matter who is in charge, republican, democrat, or other following these orders is an act of treason against your neighbor. No government can ever give a man freedom, they can only take it away.

  • Guest

    Meanwhile, Bradley Manning is being tortured by Obama.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to the New US of A. We have turned into a society that is allowing fascism to bloom. One day we will see how bad it has become and by then it may be to late.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Likewise…all service persons are expected to carry about their person one set of earplugs and one blindfold…as well as thick gloves. These shall be deployed accordingly in the event that anyone nearby mentions Wikileaks aloud, has a television or magazine present , or attempts to forcibly communicate via deafsign Helen Keller style any information which may or may not be classified. If an individual fails to take proper precautions to avoid accidental exposure to unauthorized information, that person can be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

  • Anonymous

    It can’t be… but, but, we were told, “they hate us for our freedom” oh no! “Operation noble turkey” and mission accomplished, and made in China USA flag lapel pins and all. How can this be hapening, out god is bigger than your god, and the muslim brotherhood and the monkey man from the 8th demension are going to take over the galaxy, Faux news told me so! Lets all sing God bless America in the third inning now.

  • Anonymous

    Makes me ashamed to have served in the Air Force.

    It used to be that we sought out the truth. Now we make every effort to cover it up.

  • Anonymous

    We the Corporate Government will tell you how to think , act or read.
    Is this one reason that the government is privatizing everything including the military?
    Talk about censorship, mind control and propaganda that Germany used in the 1920′s & 1930′s…
    Our government is reaching No.1 except for… Democracy , freedom and concern for their citizens

  • Anonymous

    3. We will NOT obey any order to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to trial by military tribunal.

    Civilian trials for military offenses? Is that what you are saying?

    5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which that state entered the Union.

    WTF are you talking about. This violates about half of the Constitution. States contain much federal property and the feds must be allowed to get to that property. HOLY FUCK! Are you saying that a state can keep the army from moving troops through it? How bizarre! How insane!

    9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies, under any emergency pretext whatsoever.

    Again WTF? Beyond bizarre.

    10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

    Again it’s all a matter of opinion: one man’s “free speech” is another’s “inciting violence”. There is no arbiter of right and wrong, just do what you think! Screw the laws, screw everyone else! Just do what you think!

    Oh and also, you are advocating tossing out all of our copyright laws? Free speech above all, after all? No place for copyright when free speech rules all.

    This is mindless nihilism at its best.

    You have made up all this crazy crap about people acting unilaterally when THEY think that THEY are right. It is stupid and childish and it runs against the balance of power that keeps this country from headed off a cliff.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LEUDUVF5EGJZRZETF3KV53P7BQ Thomas

    Note to everyone in the Air Force. Have all your families read wikileaks. When the gestapo military police show up at the door, you can say that you are an American who has freedom of the press and you will be glad to join the thousands of other persecuted Americans who are nor under the rule of a dictator. If everyone in the military families do this, what are they going to do? The answer is “nothing”. There is strength in numbers.

  • Anonymous

    “Classified information does not automatically become declassified as a result of unauthorized disclosure, and accessing the WikiLeaks site would introduce potentially classified information on unclassified networks,” If that’s indicative of the logic they’re using, no one will ever be convicted.

  • Anonymous

    Ooh snap!
    What about all those lowlifes who watched teevee ? Were there not teevee programs that discussed this ? Like the local friggin news ?
    I thought the Air Force had the MOST experience with genies and the stuffing of same back into their bottles. At leas that’s what I saw on teevee ! It don’t work too good, general.

  • Anonymous

    I recall one part of the oath I took when I entered the service “to obey the orders of the President, and of the officers appointed above me”. Something close to that.
    Did the Oathkeepers forget that part, about loyalty to the chain of command?

    5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which that state entered the Union

    So the Oathkeepers are stating upfront that they support secession and treason.
    Not on my watch, motherfuckers !

  • Anonymous

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.”
    -John Fitzgerald Kennedy

  • Anonymous

    But none of the “christian” male upperclassmen at the theofascist AF “Academy” can be prosecuted for raping underclass female cadets.

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ Stumptownhero

    I suggest you get a copy of the current version of the Un-patriot Act. If two people talk about taking any action that disrupts or those words inspire anyone else to disrupt civil society those persons “words” ARE violations and they are subject to prosecution.

    If a blogger or bloggers were to inspire an Egyptian style revolt here in this country kiss their ass good bye. It’s NOT right but just the way the law is written.

  • Anonymous

    Try telling that to the Taliban. They seem to be quite effective with high power rifles and homemade explosives. Urban guerrilla warfare is not fought with F-16′s. F-16′s, B-2 bombers and predator drones are produced for the purpose of making money.

  • Anonymous

    That argument makes perfectly logical sense….in a Corporate Fascist State.

    Now, Sweden wishes to extradite Assange of Wikileaks to Gothenburg.

    Sweden is also home to Carl Bildt, Foreign Affairs Minister, who was a director at the MI6 cutout, Hakluyt and Company.

    Even more interesting, Carl Bildt was with Lundin Petroleum during its time in Sudan.

    From a Wikipedia article,

    “Leading Swedish lawyer Percy Bratt believes that members of Lundin Petroleum’s senior management and Board of Directors are among the identified suspects, including Ian Lundin and Carl Bildt, now the Swedish minister of foreign affairs.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lundin_Petroleum

    And the report on murder, mayhem and Sudan and Lundin Petroleum:

    http://www.ecosonline.org/reports/2010/UNPAID_DEBT_fullreportweb.pdf

    More stuff on Hakluyt & Company:

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hakluyt_%26_Company_Limited

    http://royaldutchshellplc.com/tag/hakluyt-company-limited/

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    1. yes i took that oath also but I also said i would defend the country against all threats foreign and domestic and i would protect the constitution (which the government has been wiping its ass with since 9/11.

    2. If the government starts imprisoning families and disarming the population you can bet your ass that I will support a “secession” if not a revolution.

  • Anonymous

    And I would never enforce those orders and I don’t believe anybody should. I agree with you it is not right.

  • Anonymous

    Civilian trials for military offenses? Is that what you are saying?
    No – military tribunals for civilians you had it the other way around – declaring Americans enemy combatants and locking them up without a civilian trial by jury.

    As far as #5 see my reply to Blacktom

    9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies, under any emergency pretext whatsoever.

    You are god damn right if you come to my or my neighbor’s house and say you are taking my food or fuel or ammo you had best come prepared to fight for it.

    10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

    I never said you should be able to incite violence, and I never brought up copy right laws. This rules are NOT meant to guide police around the finer points on constitutional law. It is intended to prevent this democracy “or what is left of it” from falling further down the path to police state. It is a guide for those with authority to keep in mind when receiving orders instead of following them blindly. Don’t try to read more into this than what is there, this is NOT a 10 step guide to replacing all laws like some are apparently suggesting.

    “But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing. It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in your States as well as in the Federal Government.” — Andrew Jackson, Farewell Address, March 4, 1837

  • Anonymous

    It’s time to go Egyption folks. They’ve bought congress and the courts. And now the military is threatening civilians. It won’t be long before the neo SS Gestapo Blackwater is marching us off to detention centers.

  • Anonymous

    Being that it will be the AFOSI’s job to enforce this rule. Here again is a AFOSI Typical Fed Psych Profile:

    1 Very suspicious and distrustful of anyone not of their own culture.
    2 Too self-assured and self confident, to need, or ask for help is perceived as a sign of weakness, value self-reliance seeking help for any issue.
    3 May possess above-average intelligence.
    4 Perfectionist?; overly judgmental of self &others, takes great pride in profession not wanting to bring any shame on it or themselves
    5 Over identify with job resulting in isolating with others in culture which leads to alienation; great deal of personal identify tied up in professional identity; it’s much more that just a job, it’s a way of life.
    6 Crisis oriented; seek & thrive on excitement & stress; always want to be “in the thick of things”
    7 Defensive & trend to overreact when challenged; take charge personality
    8 Difficulty dealing with feelings valuing cognitive abilities; repression of feelings is a self-protecting mechanism; projection & rationalization used to cope with distress which tends to encourages maladaptive behaviors often resulting in maladies such as depression, despair, loneliness, & cynicism.
    9 Resistant to surrendering self-control; “powerlessness” is considered a sign of weakness
    10 Tendency to equate physical health with mental health; physical and mental illness are perceived, sometimes rightly so, as career damaging or ending; treatment for any affliction, especially perceived “mental illnesses” is viewed unsafe and career damaging; very stigma oriented.
    11 Being deceptive and manipulative is a valuable trait; Feds are trained in techniques of dealing with deceptive persons and in interviewing skills
    12 Resistant to change; tend to view things in black or white, right or wrong.
    Information taken from articles by
    Travis K. Sorrows and J. Edgar Hoover

  • Anonymous

    AF Legal Office, Children can see underage Girls forced to expose their chests in the DOD Abu Grahib PICs but can’t read the Times on line? FOK you AHs, were Americans and do not tolerate this BS from some Pencil Pushing Pussies like you. To Quote W. “Bring on it Bitchs”

  • Anonymous

    If you know your world history you know where the US currently is. It has followed the path of Old Rome as the republic morphed into the Empire. It kept the outward form, the Senate, SPVR, and all the symbols; but the spirit of the Republic was dead. In both cases, the government became an oligarchy to a dictatorship. Eventually the Roman system became so pusillanimous that the only thing the Senate could do was refuse to enshrine a dead emperor as a god in the Pantheon. As if it really mattered at that point.

  • Anonymous

    There’s more talk lately about putting Ronnie on Rushmore! But, will the Senate stop it?

  • BuzzCoastin

    There’s an easy work-around to this:
    family members simply need to think they are gay, hence they are automatically protected by the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell Amendment to the Constitution.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t if this story is real or not. But let me say this: American citizens are free to read anything they wish, and they are free to listen to any broadcast they wish. We don’t allow our politicians to control our access to information. This isn’t Nazi Germany yet.

    So, if this story is true, these people can go to hell.

  • Anonymous

    Same in the USSR. Listen to western broadcasts, go to jail. If you voted for anyone but Joe Stalin, you were sent to a psych prison, cause you had to be crazy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VGQPF4SAS4BGFLDBZYCATHIVFY Chris Herz

    Venezuela has successfully kicked out the USA. Egypt is in the process of doing so. That means the empire has to come home: Bring its dirty tricks into the Homeland, where they belong.

  • http://twitter.com/oldivory OLD IVORY

    You are not alone. My aunt was a captain in the Army during the Nam war. She is ashamed and livid. It drove her crazy; sometimes I cannot understand how she did not end up in the nut house. What you need to do now is know you are not alone and that your intentions were and now are good. Hang in with us. We need numbers.

  • http://twitter.com/oldivory OLD IVORY

    Now, doggone, I KNOW you downloaded those “insurance file”.

  • Anonymous

    They are working non-stop to upload new firmware to over half the population (and we know which half) but the Stuxnet worm keeps getting in the way.

  • Anonymous

    From what I remember being told by military brass at Camp LeJeune, NC, it cost the US Government approximately $3200 to kill each Vietnamese soldier, while the Vietnamese spent about $.14 to kill each American soldier, marine, and other military personnel.

    Need more proof you don’t need big guns to kill our military? Just look at what the rag tag Afghanis are accomplishing with their nickle and dime weapons. When the Afghanis take out people they’re not in bridal parties or unarmed journalists.

    Don’t believe they’re effective, just Google “Faces Of The Fallen” to get some idea of the continuing human cost we’re paying.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6Y4JTKZBJ2YUSIBBQSJOSDYAI R. Dennis

    Supression of information is key to an authortairan society.

  • Anonymous

    Imagine if ‘Anonymous’ were to start scattering pages from the cables *everywhere*. A page here, a page there. Sometimes wedged in as a paragraph of a legitimate story, sometimes as a banner ad, sometimes as a weather map link…

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/XZOZFUWR3YKJ25ZUAQQZWO7R6I SR

    Land of the “free”, home of the “brave”, lol.

  • Anonymous

    What you haven’ grasped here, is that the information was obtained illegally and should not have been publicly disseminated. You can argue that the contents make it alright, but that is not going to change the fact that the law was broken.

    For any legal entity in the US to do so would be tantamount to giving the “OK” for lynch mobs to roam the streets. You cannot have it both ways. The law forbidding one to make classified documents available is just as valid as the one that says you are forbidden to horsewhip some idiot kid with baggy pants. You aren’t allowed to pick and choose which laws to follow. Doing so is at risk of your own prosecution.

    Yes, many laws are intended to intimidate. That’s how criminal law works. You are supposed to be intimidated by the fear of incarceration or extreme monetary loss through fines.

    Please don’t misunderstand my position. I am stating that organizations that are tasked with upholding the law, whether military or civilian, will do so.

    The only thing the Air Force legal dept did was state that they would do so. What has been generally misunderstood by many is that the Air Force cannot prosecute dependents. They can prosecute their own members, and (I’m hazy on this part), their own civilian employees.

    Prosecution of civilians would be performed by the justice department.

    As to the cost of prosecution, they don’t care. Why should they? They can print more money.

  • mjcc1987

    You are full of paranoid shit. You talk this way because people like me served and were wounded so that you could sit in your basement with your tinfoil hat on. But you don’t hint at nor suggest, you sir call for TREASON and that I will not abide by. Go and talk your trash and black helicopters and FEMA camps you fucking loon.

  • Anonymous

    First of all while I was lucky enough not to be wounded I served in the military as well. How exactly how does asking police/military to not just blindly obey any orders given amount to treason? If you were indeed in the military you would know that nobody has to obey an unlawful order. Furthermore nowhere in ANY of my posts do I say a damn thing about FEMA or Black Helicopters. If you have ever paid any attention to history you would know that horrible things can happen even in democratic countries, and they only happened because people blindly obeyed orders from above no matter how criminal they were. A police state only has power because they have thugs that will obey any order given to them, how different would history be if the German police and military said “No” when they were told to throw people into camps? Even today how different of a country would we be living in today if everybody refused the order to torture prisoners? But I am sure refusing to waterboard somebody would be treason too right?

    You like to throw around the word treason an awful lot, but in the context you are using it in it is an empty word. Colonel Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg of Nazi Germany was shot as a traitor because he attempted to put a stop to Hitler’s reign of terror. Now was he a traitor? Well maybe in the most literal sense of the word, but he is celebrated as a hero because he tried to do what was RIGHT, not what was legal.

    If you trust the government to not give orders that would result in the harm or deaths of Americans I think it is you that needs to go get your tin foil hat on. The Tuskegee experiments, MK Ultra, and Operation Northwoods are just a few examples of the government’s willingness to do harm to its own citizens to further its own ends. And those are just a few examples of things the government has ADMITTED to, there are undoubtedly many more examples of even more heinous crimes that will never see the light of day.

    So keep throwing the word treason around like you do, because it holds no meaning coming from you at this point. I would rather be convicted of treason than to just blindly obey any order given to me.

  • Anonymous

    It is the obligation of every citizen to be informed of criminal acts perpetrated by our government. How else can we make informed decisions?

  • Anonymous

    How else can a young American Taliban member prove his manhood?

  • Anonymous

    Loss of freedoms, even if it only extends to a certain set of the population (for now) is grave cause for concern and necessary call to action!

  • Anonymous

    Please explain further.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately most of the population is busy watching the teevee to go Egyptian…

  • Anonymous

    They’re everywhere, everywhere.

  • Anonymous

    LOL – you took the quote right out of my mouth!

  • Anonymous

    WAKE UP dude, seems you may have over-dosed on the kool-aid. If you don’t believe we’ve got “FEMA” (concentration) camps then try keeping up on the news. This is old news but you should take a look. They aren’t building camps for nothing:

    http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=eed74d9d44c30493706fe03f4c9b3a77

  • Anonymous

    Just because a law is written doesn’t make it right.

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t really a democracy.

  • Anonymous

    RIght here in River City!

  • Anonymous

    Fuck the Air Force!

  • Anonymous

    It’s no longer the Air Force – it’s the Luftwaffe…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OJ7X4WKOH54GOTXIEOKFE3RXT4 Winnie Gillis

    Any one have any doubts left? We are under a totalitarian regime.

  • Anonymous

    A democratic republic was referred to as democracy. We vote. We have the
    power to restore power to the people who run things better than the
    oligarchs.

  • Anonymous

    This is what Eisenhower warned us about in his military industrial complex speech.

  • http://www.21stcenturyhustle.com/profiles/blogs/last-drop-of-oil-last-gasp-of zaccai free

    what type of action? are americans ready to “occupy” the capital as have Tunisians and Egyptians?

  • Anonymous

    I’d sooner see the entire thing come crumbling down than to besmirch it with his face!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1046573071 Matt Mosley

    If you believe you can be prosecuted for reading something you’re an idiot.

  • Anonymous

    you used the E word when it don’t apply…. BIG TONY(sup court) SAW TO THAT IN
    2000 and ELECTRONIC VOTING IN 2004………… GO TO :
    blackboxvoting.org
    bradblog.com

  • Ignatzfattis

    They can’t get away with threatening the entire American Public with espionage to get them to stop reading Wikileaks, so they’ll settle for threatening all Service Members and everyone related to them.How will the limit to “family” be decided in an espionage case -and who isn’t related -in any way -to a Service Member?

  • Anonymous

    “WikiLeaks site has been blocked to protect the network”– What a complete crock of shit.

  • Anonymous

    What a bunch of baloney- Considering that The Uniform Code Of Military Justice applies to service members only and not their families. It would be interesting to see the Air Force legal office attempt to prosecute a civilian family member on charges of all things “espionage”. That’ll tie up our court system for years to come

  • http://dredeyedick.wordpress.com dredeyedick

    Jesus Christ. Are all military lawyers Bozo’s, or is it just the Marines, Army & Air Force? :- | @dredeyedick

  • Anonymous

    Leave innocent pets out of it! Put them in the pet protection relocation program.

  • http://twitter.com/joelteply joelteply

    They may want to consult the Constitution on that one. Good luck with that. I’d just love to see the first attempted prosecution.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Or valid.

    And in our current world with corrupted officials in all branches, the Judicial can’t even be trusted to strike down invalid laws. Corporate puppets have no authority, but we’re polluted with corporate puppets across all branches of government at present.

    The Corporatocrasy does NOT have the consent of the governed to have power. The power lies with the people, and our government has been coopted by private interests.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Just ignore the supporters of the Jack Boots. If we didn’t have any of them, you’d not have needed to post in the first place. Just keep your eyes open when the shit hits the fan, because the Brown Shirts will gleefully brutalize the populace, and that’s when we need folks like you the most.

    Although, I disagree slightly with your points 5 and 8.. If a State chooses to leave the Union, they are a foreign entity and may warrant occupation (just depends on what’s going on), and 8.. well, it ties to 5 in principle, you can’t know every reason (some legitimate) that might have us ask for foreign assistance.. we asked the French to help us form this country, for example.

    But generally speaking, your list defines Patriotism; those calling it treason probably fit in the 75% of the people surveyed that called a list of statements “subversive to government”.. they didn’t know they were being read the BILL OF RIGHTS.. we’re in this mess because too many people are simply ignorant.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    the “officials” have clearance.. silly.

  • mjcc1987

    Oh come on, you know miniature Schnauzers are pure evil………….

  • Anonymous

    That statement is hundreds of years old, the modern version is now: Land of the slaves, home of the pussies.

  • Anonymous

    Joe I agree with you 100%, #5 is too vague, and you are right about #8 in so much as if there was a horrible disaster I would be very pleased to see relief efforts from other countries.

    It truly is a crying shame how ignorant Americans are today, it upsets me to no end every time I hear somebody say, “I don’t care about politics but let’s talk about American Idol!”. I just truly hope enough people wake up and see what is happening before it is too late.

  • Jaimie11

    “It was unclear whether RawStory.com, or other websites which have carried information related to WikiLeaks’ US State Dept. documents, were currently being blocked on military networks.”

    Raw Story you are journalists and just because too many in the MSM use the term ‘journalist’ to describe their kowtowing to the corporatocracy to protect their salaries it is in no way implied they are on the honorable side of history – if we don’t exercise all of our rights we lose them, bit by bit, until they are faded from memory and lost entirely. Kudos to you for standing firm – please don’t stop.

    http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/wolf32/English

  • Anonymous

    love to see how the supreme court would rule on this totalitarianism. bet i know how scalia and thomas would rule…

  • Anonymous

    Bill Keller is such a tool. He obviously doesn’t care about Assange, the most important journalist in the world right now, but Keller doesn’t want Assange prosecuted because that might leave Keller in jeopardy. Keller: “Me first, then Uncle Sam; anything after that, including journalism, whatevs.”
    As for the Air Force–yeah, the Christian Dominionists in the Pentagon will be policing up your precious bodily fluids next. Must control minds!

  • Buford2k11

    So much for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

  • dula

    “According to the legal office, “if a family member of an Air Force employee accesses WikiLeaks on a home computer, the family member may be subject to prosecution for espionage under U.S. Code Title 18 Section 793. The Air Force member would have an obligation to safeguard the information under the general guidance to safeguard classified information.”
    You are quite possibly, the biggest tool/peasant on this site.

  • Anonymous

    And you’re an elitist shiteater smearing your excrement on the people.

    Jizzsac.

  • Hologram5

    Can their “over-reach” be anymore blatant? Oh, wait, It can and will be I’m sure.

  • Anonymous

    People can be prosecuted for reading materials from WikiLeaks! The JAG has gone to Hades. It is sad to see the honorable military going the way of the corrupt Obama administration. Of course, that’s the example the POTUS and his corrupt administration sets. This corruption has got to stop. The honorable military should not support a corrupt administration. This is Nazi Germany all over again.

  • Guest

    If they actually tried to bring a case like this to court the streets would be worse than Egypt’s by the very next day.

  • http://www.givejonadollar.com/ Give Jon a Dollar

    What a bunch of filthy rogues. They want to prosecute their own citizens? If they do so, they will have bigger things to worry about than terrorists. It will spread like wildfire and make Egypt look like child’s play.

  • http://twitter.com/jimineymoridin Jimmy Gipson

    i wrote about this months ago….

    http://moridinskeep.blogspot.com/2010/08/wikileaks-website-not-authorized.html

    i guess they are moving forward with it.

  • Anonymous

    Let us get clear in our minds who the terrorists really are. Terrorists are trying to scare Americans away from reading the news. Terrorists are brutalizing Bradley Manning without even having a trial for him, when the law says he is a protected whistleblower. Our supposedly private banks are attacking wikileaks on their own, with no legal action at all. This means that now you need to be scared where you transfer money to, and not be sure it got there. Who will be next? Greenpeace? Kucinich? Terrorists come at us from every direction, and they are not bringing car bombs. They are bringing the program that Mubarak used to shut down the internet. They are bringing control of your cash flow. They are bringing long sentences in solitary for anyone who opposes them. Know the terrorists, see them. They are in plain sight.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    I hope this gets taken to court because it’s obviously a very draconian violation of US first amendment rights. Since the information in question is freely public attempting to restrict the armed services’ access is absurd on it’s face. This rule is even more bizarrely ridiculous than DADT was.

  • Anonymous

    “Classified information does not automatically become declassified as a result of unauthorized disclosure” is a rule that has been in effect for as long as there has been classified information. Ordinarily, the unauthorized disclosure is small or very limited, so the rule serves an important purpose in those cases. Clearly, the writers of the rule did not anticipate such massive and widely disseminated cases of unauthorized disclosure as we have seen with the Wikileaks case, where strict adherence to the rule may be of little real value. Nonetheless, the rule is still in effect, and the security rules are a fundamental element of military discipline. So all good service members (and civilian defense workers) will follow the rule simply because it is the rule and they have given their word that they will follow it. It’s a matter of honor and loyalty to their country.

  • Anonymous

    Think. It’s not illegal yet.

  • Anonymous

    “Almost anyone in the United States, and especially soldiers or the families of US Air Force members, could be under the threat of prosecution by the military, according to a recent “guidance” document issued by the Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC) public affairs office.”

    “Almost anyone” being the key phrase here.

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