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Americans divided on second term for Obama, poll shows

By Stephen C. Webster
Tuesday, February 8, 2011 14:43 EDT
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Two years into his presidency, Americans remained largely split on whether President Barack Obama deserved a second term in office, according to a poll published Tuesday morning.

The survey, by CNN and the Opinion Research Corporation, found that 51 percent of Americans (PDF) believed Obama would not win a second term, while 47 percent said that he likely would.

The results were largely the same as a similar poll published nearly one year ago, where CNN found that 52 percent felt Obama did not deserve a second term.

Both figures seemed closely moored to the president’s approval ratings, which CNN gauged as 51 percent at the end of Jan. 2010 and Gallup placed at 46 percent at the start of Feb. 2011.

Among the list of likely Republican contenders, most of whom were working as paid contributors to the conservative-leaning Fox News Channel, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee came out on top with 21 percent of the respondents saying they would support him over the others.

Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin took second in the poll, at 19 percent, followed by other familiar names: former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney at 19 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 10 percent and Texas Congressman Ron Paul at 7 percent.

Paul, whose son won last year a seat in the US Senate, said recently that he was considering a run for the same chamber, now that Texas Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison has announced her retirement. More recently, however, Paul’s spokesman Jesse Benton told Fox News the popular Texas iconoclast may seek the presidency once again.

Palin, who for months was seen as the nation’s most popular Republican, has seen a decline in fortunes since a mass shooting in Tucson, Arizona targeted Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ). Giffords was one of 20 Democrats on Palin’s so-called “target list,” which depicted congressional districts with gun sights over them.

Amid heavy criticism for her frequent use of violent rhetoric and gun imagery in her public comments, Palin saw the worst poll numbers of her career, with an approval rating of just 38 percent.

And even though Palin, largely seen as the queen of tea party activists, may not be the most popular Republican anymore, she still poses a significant threat to the ticket if she isn’t picked as the nominee. A recent poll from the conservative-leaning Rasmussen Reports found that as many as half of Palin’s supporters may flee the GOP if she doesn’t take the nod.

Recent presidential race poll numbers have swung wildly for Palin. In a Washington Post poll taken earlier this month, Palin ranked in second place with 19 percent support among likely GOP primary voters, behind only Huckabee at 21 percent. But another poll released around the same time had Palin at 10 percent, with Romney in the lead at 28 percent and Huckabee in second at 15 percent.

In another recent poll by Gallup, respondents pinpointed President Obama as the most polarizing figure in US politics in decades. While he enjoyed an average of 81 percent approval from Democrats, only 13 percent of Republicans shared that view, leaving a 68 point approval gap between the two parties.

Overall, Obama’s first and second years in office both ranked in the top ten most polarizing years of any recent president. His second year was ranked fourth, while his first year was ranked sixth. No president in the last 50 years, since President Dwight Eisenhower, had a more polarizing second year than Obama.

With prior reporting by Daniel Tencer and David Edwards.

Stephen C. Webster
Stephen C. Webster
Stephen C. Webster is the senior editor of Raw Story, and is based out of Austin, Texas. He previously worked as the associate editor of The Lone Star Iconoclast in Crawford, Texas, where he covered state politics and the peace movement’s resurgence at the start of the Iraq war. Webster has also contributed to publications such as True/Slant, Austin Monthly, The Dallas Business Journal, The Dallas Morning News, Fort Worth Weekly, The News Connection and others. Follow him on Twitter at @StephenCWebster.
 
 
 
 
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  • hegesias

    “Poll: Most Americans Fucking Retarded”

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    I am not sure how anyone can say right now. The Establishment Right is quite obviously going to choose Romney and the Establishment Left may dump Biden and run on an Obama/Hillary ticket. The most unfair thing of all is that Ron Paul is being ignored again and he is the only one offering real change rather than lies.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like you’ve been accused of racism before. If you are not a racist then why does it bother you?

  • Anonymous

    … depends on who Mr. Diebold votes for .

  • Anonymous

    Lose? To whom? To WHOM? Sarah Palin? Mitt Romney? Newt?
    The Repugs got NUTHIN’ and NOBODY!

  • ThorsteinVeblen2012

    Perhaps if he were more like Che and less like George W. Bush.If Obama loses it is because George Bush should be in jail but isn’t. There is no change much less Che.America is overrepresented by the legacy of former slaveowners from Cuba who owed their comfortable former lifestyles to the institution of slavery which they retained longer than most any other country.

    The American Civil War cleansed this nation of much but not enough of the slave culture. Che let too many of them take the boat ride to Miami.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    well, that poll is clearly hosed.. Palin came in last in a few other polls.. and we just had an article a few weeks ago saying Obama’s favorability rating is rising.

    Though, if they get that meme out there loud enough, they can rig the elections easier.

  • Anonymous

    Oh I see you are a “libertarian”, so basically no laws allowed except the ones that keep all you white guys in power, right?

  • Anonymous

    And so the poll shows …most Americans haven’t got a clue!

  • Anonymous

    Obama wouldn’t have a chance against a republican that is a competent pragmatic problem solver with some charisma and leadership ability, and has the country’s interest as his/her first interest. That excludes and eliminates all the assholes currently in contention. Obama will win by a landslide.
    Bush was polarizing because of the lies he told. Obama is polarizing because of the lies told about him.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah right. Just wait and see who Obama’s running mates are. GOP doesn’t have anyone that can pass by the Israel lobby and Christian vote, and be trusted anywhere near the oval office.

  • Anonymous

    sorry …but no one will say anything about you at all.

  • Anonymous

    Why doesn’t Faux News just run? I mean, corporations are people too, right? It won’t be long before we see something along these lines…

    Seriously though, the GOP has nothing. The Tea baggers will screw them up anyway. I think Obama will be in for another term at this point. Unless the wheels totally fall off. Then, perhaps, a third party may be viable. AND NO, not Paul or Kucinich, or Nader… (seriously… move on, people!). They may have a part to play but they will never hold the office.

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    President Barack Obama would be happy to retire in 2012
    no more being controlled by extortion and blackmail

    polls continually sold as perception management

  • Anonymous

    Good riddance! And don’t let those heavy doors slam you on the ass on the way out. Time for Amerikans to “vote” themselves a good white Republican cowboy to complete the transition.

  • Ma’at

    Yeah, we know. People think the bigots might win in 2012. They won’t even come close.

  • Anonymous

    I do not buy this, though I do think, again, Americans believe what they are told on TV and in the conservative media. America is completely divided – its called a Culture War and people are divided over values and interpretations of reality. Like science: smart people grasp science, the other side holds it in contempt.

  • Anonymous

    Thank goodness there is no such thing as a “republican that is a competent pragmatic problem solver with some charisma and leadership ability”. The ENTIRE GOP presidential field (and lesser races as well) looks like a mental hospital filled with rich white people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KLF5SUA5RDYXG54WWF5SHMVRAI X

    Hopefully they’re right. Ron Paul would be a vast improvement. But the same could be said for a can of yams.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EHJJXSTSSOCXLTSQBUVIDYUF7M Dave

    What a total waste of effort on a poll like that. Doesn’t matter what people think today.

    It’s the economy stupid.

    If it recovers he’ll probably be reelected . If it doesn’t he probably won’t. If thats news to you then you are too stupid to live.

  • Anonymous

    Most Americans also believe WMD were found in Iraq.

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/238.php?nid=&1

    Why? Because Fox News insists on spreading the bull shit and lies from Republicans like Rick Santorium and others.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html

  • http://twitter.com/Rickstersays Rickster Rickster

    POTUS Obama will easily be re-elected. face it, the republicans are pretty much buffoons and they are grabbing rope daily to string themselves up.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    Yes, it was Rick Santorum and Fox news that convinced people that there were WMDs. It wasn’t any of these people ;)

    “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
    - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
    - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    “Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
    - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” S
    - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
    - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

    “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
    - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    “Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
    - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    “There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
    - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

    “We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”
    - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
    - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    “The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…”
    - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    “I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force– if necessary– to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
    - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    “He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do” Rep.
    - Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
    - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    “We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”
    - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    “Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …”
    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    Exactly! Just as we learned from the elections 3 months ago!

  • Anonymous

    He is Guaranteed a second Term…

  • Anonymous

    So exactly how many times did Clinton invade Iraq?

  • Anonymous

    The Republican nutters running for President are all coming out. Ron Paul has to compete with his Aqua Buddha son Randy Paul now. Queen Sarah is finished and now is just looking for money to support her family. Crazy Michele Bachmann is tired of living off of Federal Grants for her 23 kids. Huckabee is just looking for a free job with benefits while releasing career murders if they say they found Jesus. The polls were taken with a few but American voters are many. Obama will get re elected to clean up the mess and then Republicans will get their candidate in office and the Tea Party will be part of history. Now what we could be seeing is the first impeachment of a US Supreme Court Justice, as Clarence Thomas and his wife Ginni have violated taxes for over 13 years. The Republicans took control of the House/Congress on the promise of working on jobs, but lied an are now seen as the circus clowns for comedy entertainment while the US citizens suffer. Blaming Obama is getting old now when we see Law Makers waste time on bills to redefine rape to make it illega/stop heath care and repealing the Health care bill.

  • Anonymous

    Try not to pierce their bubbles of Delusion…

  • Anonymous

    Diebold is good at picking winners…

    Hence the name…

  • Anonymous

    We put up with these foolish push polls for the past year and now they are continuing with them. This is a bullsh*t poll conducted during the day on CNN. Who the hell are you getting to answer? Why does Raw Story play into this stupid horsesh*t? Ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    He will be re-elected. But the farther he tacks to the right, the harder he makes it on himself.

  • Melbo58

    Today, most polls pro or con are meaningless because the method is no longer is reliable. Many people , the young for sure do not have land lines. The polling orgs. have needed to update their method for years. Hardly no one is going to do a survey on their cellphone. Take it from a Att phone man.

  • Melbo58

    Unless RePunks get their act together, “Smooth B”, has no worries whatsoever. The smart money is on black.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    Way to change the subject when your first point is blown all to hell!

    To answer your question (which is irrelevant to your original post) Clinton never “invaded” Iraq because he was a big pussy after his embarassment in Somalia. Instead, he made the situation worse by poking at the lion in the cage:
    On June 26, 1993, Clinton ordered an attack on the Iraqi Intelligence Service’s (IIS) principal command and control complex in Baghdad, publicly announced as retaliation for the alleged assassination attempt by the IIS on ex-president George Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in April of that year. Fourteen cruise missiles were launched from the USS Peterson, nine were launched from the USS Chancellorsville. 16 of the missiles hit the target, three struck a residential area, killing nine civilians and wounding 12. Four of the missiles were unaccounted for.[19] This strike was in violation of international law, although that point is contentious.[20]

    The UNSCOM team faced resistance from Iraq, which blocked inspections and hid deadly germ agents and warheads.[21] Clinton threatened military action several times when Iraqi president Saddam Hussein attempted to stall the UNSCOM inspections.[22] In December 1998 Clinton ordered four days of concentrated air attacks against military installations in Iraq. After the bombing, Hussein blocked any further UN inspections. For several years afterward, U.S. air assaults continued to target defense installations in Iraq, in response to what the Clinton administration claimed were “provocations” by the Iraqi military,[23] including antiaircraft fire and radar locks on American planes and missiles.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TYRSGPGUV7G6KLATV2LYVE7344 Marc

    FUCK NO. the man is a placating, mesmerizing BIG FAT LIAR

  • Anonymous

    Not surprising, Obama governs as a Republican but thinks he’s going to win as a Democrat.

  • Anonymous

    Even if there were such a person, why would he ‘automatically’ win against Obama: because of his race?

    Republicans are the minority in voter registration; Obama has great approval ratings among Democrats. Republicans have a distinctively corporate bias (look at Issa’s flood of ‘suggestions on what to deregulate’ almost all from lobbyists)… Shouldn’t the next election be about more than phony fears of black and brown people? Should it not be at last about issues and which party is on the side of investing in people once again, rather than in worthless piles of concrete?

  • Monkei

    The guy may not be what we totally wanted, but the alternative of McCain and Palin … well we made the right decision.

  • Mr. Neutron

    Oooh, the GOP won just the House after the longest and deepest downturn for the U.S. economy since the Great Depression – what an historical accomplishment…
    Yawn.

    http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/20/news/economy/recession_over/index.htm
    Perhaps by Nov 2012 they’ll figure out it was Bush’s policies that cause the Recession starting in December 2007, after almost four years of Obama’s repair work has almost fixed Bush’s eight years of damage.

  • Anonymous

    and did these polar bears call on hard wire phones that are TOTALLY FOR GOP
    ADVANTAGE…………… YOUNG AND HOMELESS????

  • Anonymous

    Still smarting about that WMD thing, huh?

    Talking about fighting yesterday’s battles.

    You keep up the good work there, though, Captain Oppo.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Vote in 2012 or else you get what you deserve:

    Choose only one:
    [ ] Punched in the gut
    [ ] Kicked in the balls

    Choose wisely, “democracy” depends upon you!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZIIRJENPZTIPRDKHQLZWPQIXZA virgo47tp

    Lets play Spot the Fallacy:

    Two years into his presidency, Americans remained largely split on whether President Barack Obama “deserved a second term in office”, according to a poll published Tuesday morning.

    The survey, by CNN and the Opinion Research Corporation, found that 51 percent of Americans (PDF) believed Obama “would not win a second term”, while 47 percent said that he likely would.

    This is American Journalism.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Mr abject failure and his empty suit are going back to Chicago…..

  • Scuby

    “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
    - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
    ——————–
    Exactly…and then he launched Operation Desert Fox and pretty destroyed any and all WMD stockpiles that Iraq had. Thus, they didn’t exist in 2003 when Bush invaded.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZIIRJENPZTIPRDKHQLZWPQIXZA virgo47tp

    “Clinton never “invaded” Iraq because he was a big pussy after his embarassment in Somalia…”

    Paul must be blogging from Iraq as we speak, for surely he is not a “pussy” for not invading as well.

  • Anonymous

    WORTHLESS poll, it’s going to be based on the 2012 economy, also what republican is beating him at the polls, 0

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3XK5UXMXKTOUT55NMTCYI32SQU Pye Wack

    Still smarting about that WMD thing, huh?

    Nothing like fighting yesterday’s battles.

    But you keep up the good work there Captain Oppo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Bush I lied to get us to attack Iraq in ’91.. Clinton (the pro-corporate centrist) didn’t do much to right the ship (thanks NAFTA), and Bush II was chomping at the bit to get back in.. And, yes, a lot of Dems were spewing the lies Bush II was selling, too. Many MSM outlets (not just FOX) were busy repeating the propaganda.

    Pretending like the illegal invasion of Iraq can sit on any “one” person’s shoulders is folly. However, the RAW INTEL did not support the public statements BUSH was making, and BUSH was the one with final say-so about invading. And he did so against the general global consensus..

    So, you’re both right.. the “general public” believed the lies.. and the lies were coming from all sides. Ultimately, though, the ones that had the truth in their hands and still lied to justify the illegal invasion should be prosecuted (including Pelosi and every other Dem that was briefed with the truth but authorized aggression anyway).

  • Guest

    Damn were we duped! The intellectual opposite of “W” turns out to be the corporate clone of “W”. At this stage, the 2012 election is going to be one for “None of The Above”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3XK5UXMXKTOUT55NMTCYI32SQU Pye Wack

    Paul, cutting and pasting is not really debating.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3XK5UXMXKTOUT55NMTCYI32SQU Pye Wack

    Paul is probably cutting and pasting from the day room, thinking about how tonight is burrito night.

  • Anonymous

    Obstruction, scare tactics and lies work on morons. JFC! Look at the HOR schedule–nothing! Not a GD thing about anything of substance. Do the stupid people in this country realize that their stupidity is the root cause of the problem–repukes in power?

  • Anonymous

    Bush is not from Chicago. I hope he does go to Switzerland.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t be so sure. Intelligence is not required to vote. Look at the repuke voter base.

  • Melbo58

    LJ, I dig your passion, but the last cycle..11/12.. was the usual blip because we didn’t come out like we do in the general. My crystal ball says that “Smooth B” (and the demos) are playing it cool. They are on track, and the V.C.(Repugs) or slowly headed for “TET”. Looked good on paper… but that was the last gasp against the good guys. In St.luois we fly the F-4 Phantom!

  • Anonymous

    If Republicans or Democrats win… the rest of us lose.

    Time to end the 2 party strangle hold on this country. There is no longer any difference between the 2.

  • Anonymous

    Yes. With Obama’s poll numbers rising, the corporations who threw millions to billions to elect only one House of the Congress might want to reconsider how much they are wasting.

    Obama is right; how about going out and hiring some Americans with the money you are hoarding or else throwing at tea partiers?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UAYWWQ6PIS523OZNUGILXEGOPU Patty

    Oh PLEEZE….. And the polls showed that McCain and Obama’s race in 2008 would be a nail-biter! THEN Obama was declared by mid-night. It all depends who runs in the Republican Party. If it a ‘Bagger’ lunatic (ie. Palin, Bachmann) he is a shoo in.

  • Anonymous

    Clinton’s policies weakened Hussein to the point where he felt he had to bluff about being heavily armed to hold off Iran and others. Most of the quotes you have there from Democrats date from years before the Bushies invaded.

  • Anonymous

    And if he pulls 47% of the vote in the election his chances are ….. what?

  • Melbo58

    VeeGee, are you taking offense at the term “largely”?

    *4% split?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    What a stupid poll. First, this question has to do with people’s OPINION of whether or not Obama can win. Given that every blowhard, overpaid pundit in Talking Head Land likes to pontificate about how “tough” it’s going to be for Obama to win again OF COURSE people think he may not be able to win. But look at the breakdown and cross-tabs of the survey and what you see is that some 47% of the respondents are already just about committed to voting for Obama. Moreover, the survey was a telephone survey and everyone knows this undercounts people who tend to live by the cell phone – the young and minorities. Contrast this to the respondents’ feelings about who might win against Obama and the BEST they’re able to do is Huckabee? Laughable.

    It’s a crappy and unreliable piece of nonsense.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EZ4W5CDCIVXKIIKESYBN2EP6VE brian

    I would love to see Obama replaced, but by a 3rd party, NOT anything from the republican party (not like there is much difference…). BUT Romney and Huckabee scare the ever living shit out of me. They are more murderous and torturous than even Bush was, and they are smarter than Bush. Imagine an even more vile Bush who could actually use their brain for their evil agenda.

    For the first time in my life, I am thinking about voting the lesser of two evils… However, my conscience will not allow me to vote for a war mongering neocon (Obama) just because he is a lesser war mongering neocon..

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    But Black Bush is from Chicago.

  • Anonymous

    Yesterday’s battles–”The War on Terror?” 9/11 with Bush on duty and still fighting that battle.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Decisions decisions. Which one is a punch in the gut again?

  • Anonymous

    But he can still go to Switzerland.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KXMM5MVAYZHUSPNY3W7Y57F2QI Laszlo

    Yeah, they think Obama will lose … until they consider who might actually run against him.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    When they were believing the lies instigated by Bush/Cheney.. But there are still plenty of examples of the fear mongering/Justifying by Clinton’s WH.

    We’ve been after control of Iraq for a while, that’s why we helped get Saddam in in the first place.. he was a good little puppet for a while. When he decided to go rogue, that’s when “we” got pissed. Clinton continued the fucked up foreign policies of the Plutes.. make no mistake about that. Clinton is no more your friend than Bush was. The only thing Clinton did was prove you can feed the MIC while balancing the budget, that’s what pissed off the right-wing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    If they had anyone of substance I’d be with you, but I’ve never seen such a collection of stupid as the potential front runners in all my life. It seems to be a requirement now for Republicans to be tax cuttin’, science questionin’, gubmint hatin’ rootin’ tootin’ “Real” Americans from the heartland who love them their guns, God, and gutted regulations and environmental protections. When you see an insider like Dick Wadhams quitting in disgust because it’s just gotten TOO stupid for the guy who ran George Allen’s campaign, you’ve seen the Republicans hit rock bottom.

    Obama will take it in a walk.

  • Mr. Neutron

    You obviously didn’t look at the link provided:

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/238.php?nid=&1
    The Harris Interactive Poll, taken July 5-11 (2006), shows that half of Americans (50 percent) believe that “Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the U.S. invaded.” That represents a rise of 14 points from February 2005 when only 36 percent thought Iraq had WMD.

    This poll was after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and after the Iraq Survey Group found no WMD in Iraq. The final report of the Iraq Survey Group was released on Sept 30, 2004:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Survey_Group

    All your quotes are from before the invasion.
    That’s like quoting sports writers who thought the Pittsburgh Steelers were going to win Superbowl XLV before the Superbowl. Yes, an argument could be made that the Steelers would win – but after they lost, only lunatics would claim that they actually won.

    Which of those people you quoted above were saying (in 2006) that Iraq had had WMD when the US invaded in 2003 ?

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Execute George Bush. Over and out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Until we get some fundamentalists/despots in the WH (worse than the Shrub), we’ll not have our Egypt moment. The U.S. is too far from the edge for a real disruption by the public. We’re pissed, but not desperate (and the Plutes want to keep it that way, which is why they put Obummer in in the first place, to give us the illusion of having some power still).

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Especially when it is uncited plagiarism.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Execute Bush

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Deserving a second term has nothing to do with “think he might win”. So which question was asked? what do the numbers really mean, a “feeling” of if he CAN win, or if he DESERVES to win? Apples and oranges..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    Heh, heh. And they’re SO convinced they have a “mandate” from TAP (aka The American People ™), that they have devoted the first month and a half of their tenure to repealing health care (over the CBO’s objections it will cost over $230 bn), rewriting the definition of “rape” to require that anyone claiming rape show that she tried really, really hard NOT to be raped, and screwing with abortion rules that even people who consider themselves pro-life never had a problem with (abortion in cases of rape, incest, or harm to mother).

    They have a nice, relaxed schedule of considering very little legislation so they can work in all their fund-raisers and trips to Koch brother hosted planning meetings to take power back from the Democrats. What will TAP be asking these guys in two years? “Where are the jobs?”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    I thought Black Bush was a Brunette’s south of the waistline…

  • Mr. Neutron

    “provocations” by the Iraqi military, including antiaircraft fire and radar locks on American planes and missiles.

    Yes, it’s quite “provocative” for a country to fire at planes illegally flying over and attacking it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_no-fly_zones
    While the enforcing powers had cited United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 as authorizing the operations, the resolution contains no explicit authorization. The Secretary-General of the UN at the time the resolution was passed, Boutros Boutros-Ghali called the no-fly zones “illegal” in a later interview with John Pilger.

    Something is not legal just because you have the military might to get away with it for awhile – see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Trials

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    I was going to say you left out “god-fearin’”, but it would have been redundant.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    “Why doesn’t Faux News just run?”
    Of course we would want to see their long form birth certificate.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    given the demographic of polls (land lines, people dumb enough to answer the phone when they don’t know who’s calling, etc).. if he pulls 47% of those polled, his chances are “damn good”..

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    “Bush was polarizing because of the lies he told. Obama is polarizing because of the lies told about him.”

    *And* the lies he told.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    only people who answer the phone for unknown callers are polled. Most people I know have caller ID and don’t answer the phone if they don’t know who’s calling.

  • Gnat K. Coal

    If we were able to put a black man in the White House, we can put a Green woman in there next time!

    We could even put Dennis Kucinich there. It could happen!

  • Gnat K. Coal

    THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO PARTIES RUNNING.

  • Mr. Neutron

    Clinton won in 1992 with 43.0% of the vote.

    His chances of winning in 1992 were 100%.

  • Anonymous

    I know. I am still kicking myself for ever have been a repuke. Grew up on the CH-46. F-14-nice ride. F-18-great ride, but A4s forever.

  • Melbo58

    Alright JS, I feel he deserves to win. Now do you feel the same way, or if not why? I await.

    *Lets get ready to rumbleeeee….!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    Oh yeah, “real change”. I’ve listened to Ron Paul a few times. He’s actually a lot of fun to listen to. I especially love his speeches where he takes it to the mat with Woodrow Wilson and blasts Teddy Roosevelt for starting down the hellish road of federal regulation of food and water. Oh, the horror! Paul’s a Randian disciple (hence his son’s name), and when you boil his philosophy down to its essentials it’s that you should just get and take care of your own and screw everyone else. He’s a throwback and an anachronism and the only reason he’s popular with young people is his opposition to the drug war and suggestion that we legalize drugs. Heck, I’ve got no problem with that. But Ron Paul would also totally gut the entitlements system in this country and return us to the days when old people in America were living in the direst poverty, dependent upon their relatives and the kindness of strangers for help, and (since he’s a follower of Ayn Rand) being despised for their weakness just as their helpers would be despised for their mercy. Paul looks and sounds like a good guy, but he embraces a philosophy of heartless selfishness. Just look at that nitwit he raised.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    It would take one simple act to awaken his flagging liberal base; you know, the one that worked so hard to get him elected? Open an thorough investigation into the war crimes and the political crimes of GW Bush and his criminal administration.

    And then I woke up….

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama–true to form–compromised by nominating a Repug vice president to seal a victory in 2012.

  • Mr. Neutron

    More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly.
        — Woody Allen

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    That’s just because they haven’t charged the peace prize war criminal. Is there any reason that he shouldn’t be charged… that you can think of????

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    What a stupid comment. Seriously, dude, what did you THINK the POTUS would be able to do without having to get the cooperation of Congress? You think what he undertook is easy and all he has to do is stand around telling the Republicans they suck and the businesses to get it together and start hiring people? What did he lie about, exactly? He never promised you he’d be Harry Potter.

  • Anonymous

    Go Go Tea Party ? Or Nader that gave 2000 to bush ?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes it would be great to “reelect” a known war criminal. How about, “you guys” elect someone not guilty of war crimes? Wouldn’t that be refreshing, kinda different… and logical?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    Oh yes, in a crappy, tottering economy with rapidly increasing homelessness and destitution the VERY FIRST thing Obama should have been worried about was going after Bush and Cheney and driving a deeper wedge in an already polarized country. How very productive that would have been.

  • Mr. Neutron

    I think the standards for blog Comments are pretty low :-) Plagiarism might be frowned upon in journalism, but in a Comment…

    It would be nice to include a link to an interesting “copy/paste” but few people include links. Leaving in the wikipedia reference numbers is a nice, sloppy way to give “links” to someone who wants to see the source material:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t vote for him in 08, and would never vote for him in 2012.
    He didn’t fool me! All he had to do was claim Afghanistan was “the good fight” , and that is clearly all it took for me to never vote for him. He kept that promise, and broke loads of others.
    Obama is a chump, a liar, and a huge fraud. He’s as far from a liberal as Ronald Reagan was.

  • Mr. Neutron

    Lots of stupid people find the condition fatal:
    http://www.darwinawards.com/

    But don’t forget, in America, the vast majority of these afflicted people can go on to live long lives, full of eating, shopping, doing some kind of job, watching Fox News, and voting for the candidate who loves Baby Jesus the most.

  • Anonymous

    Because he isn’t guitly. They should try the population of the entire USA. In a sense, they have.

  • Anonymous

    Good point, yes it could happen. If it doesn’t we’re doomed to another even further right wingnut lunatic.
    It is the New Dark Ages now, and it could be much worse after the sure to be debacle called the 2012 election cycle.

  • Melbo58

    GKC, being a former Hillary guy I see your point. However the demos (we) can’t fall into the same trap the repugs are in betting on a dream. (palin..ect). D.K. is a good man, but a 21st century Carter stands about as much of a chance as a reborn Regan. The fool Regan, and the not fool Carter would be rejected as too soft. Sad to say because Jimmy was and is a real man of people principles, which maybe why he’s still alive.

  • Anonymous

    In 2008, the choice was between Tweedledee and Tweedledumb.

  • Anonymous

    Tweedledee vs. Tweedledumb … just like in 2008 ?

  • Anonymous

    “Shouldn’t the next election be about more than phony fears of black and brown people? Should it not be at last about issues and which party is on the side of investing in people once again, rather than in worthless piles of concrete?”

    It would be nice but it won’t happen. Facts and truths don’t sell newspapers, magazines or TV airtime. Contrary to popular belief the media does not have a liberal bias, it has a green bias – money.

  • Anonymous

    So you voted for McSame as Bush? Get a freaking clue.

  • Anonymous

    THANKS

  • Anonymous

    From what I see on the right, Tweedledumb has become Tweeledumber.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    I was clarifying what virgo47tp was eluding to (logical fallacy and bad Journalism).

    Personally, I didn’t want Obummer in in the first place. Kucinich is my guy.. I don’t adhere to the lessor of two evils because you still end up going to a dark place.

    Obama is better than the alternative, for the short term.. but nothing of structural significance is changing (and that’s not just Obama’s fault, he’s got a broken Congress to contend with). I mean, he COULD shut down government with veto’s until his party got in line and passed Single Payer, for example.

    Not to mention some of the blatant lies he’s proffered.. I don’t think he “deserves” to be the most powerful man in the world if he’s going to be a liar and enabler of the Plutes. But that’s just me..

    However, I think he will win because 1) the DNC won’t let anyone else move against him, and 2) the right-wing is still coming apart and the public is watching (for now).

    2014/2016, no way to know what will happen that far out… so I see nothing good coming for the next 4 years, regardless.

  • Anonymous

    Did I say that I voted for Palin and McDrooler?
    Very clearly I did not say that, so piss off, chump.

    You’re stuck in the gop – dem rut dumbass, many more political parties to choose from, don’t be that big a moron!
    Get a feraking clue.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/FZTCSW3ROOZH6M567RKPDFVRAY Donald

    The dumbed down Americans who voted Obama into office finally have come to realize that “the change we can believe in man” is just a very gifted flimflam man, in the hire of Wall Street et al corporate oligarchy.
    Even the “once a Liberal always-a Liberal bunch for lunch group” have abandoned him and are looking for ? Well, hell they don’t even know.

    Yes, the Great Reneger that False Flag President is not held in high esteem by those who sent him there. But, kudos for Wall Street who wagered $27,942,613 on their bet that he would shine for them http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/money-and-votes-aligned-in-con.html

    For Obama the best thing he can do is lose in 2012; for whoever is in office when the economy croaks for real will be reviled worse than Herbert Hoover.

  • Anonymous

    If Obama actually won, how would you tell?

  • otherjerseyguy

    Let’s hope that the DNC realizes that Obama is a loser and quickly shifts to a more electable candidate without Obama’s negatives.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, Rahm.

    BTW, I hope you get your skinny ass kicked in the mayoral race.

  • Melbo58

    Are you referring to Mcain’s A-4, or “B’s” F-4? Btw, todays gop is not the same as back in the day. Then they were worthy opponents, good in the field of battle. Now, besting a fool is no real victory.(sigh)

    * CH-46 Jolly greennnn!

  • Anonymous

    No big news here. Over half the country is racist.

  • http://twitter.com/Rickstersays Rickster Rickster

    my mother told me not to say anything if you didn’t have anything nice to say. i have nothing nice to say to you in reply.

  • Anonymous

    Turns out if you voted for a dem or gop in 2008 it was tweedledee or tweedledumb.
    I surely didn’t vote for one of the big plutocrat parties in 08 and haven’t for over a decade.

    Funny how kasinca got all butt hurt because of that fact.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3XK5UXMXKTOUT55NMTCYI32SQU Pye Wack

    When it comes down to a choice between the party of Sharron Angle, Christine O’Donnell, Beck and Palin and the party of incremental economic recovery, Americans will play it safe. If the GOP is unfortunate enough to nominate Palin, Obama will win 45 states.

  • Anonymous

    ‘Let’s hope that the DNC realizes that Obama is a loser and quickly shifts to a more electable candidate without Obama’s negatives. ‘

    i wonder what those ‘negatives’ are… certainly not because he’s too ‘liberal’ – certainly not after tax break after tax break to corporations and the wealthy…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3XK5UXMXKTOUT55NMTCYI32SQU Pye Wack

    Teaching evolution would still be legal.

  • Anonymous

    You’re comment is racist because it suggests that the only reason people would have a problem with Obama is because of his race. This is the perspective of someone who regards race as the governing factor. There are many people who dislike Obama b/c of his policies, political affiliation, voting record, even his use of teleprompters at every occasion and the various hypnosis techniques used throughout all of his speeches. If you see racists in people who dislike Obama, you need to take a good hard look in the mirror at your own racist thought patterns.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    I’m pretty sure you voted for Nader or some yahoo no one ever heard of, but since it makes you feel so very pure to bail on the two party system go ahead and comfort yourself with the idea that your vote actually meant anything.

  • http://voxxrocks.com/blog/ HIStory Indeed

    What does it matter when the point of no return has passed?

    At what point will the grownups of this world realize they were duped into playing a game that was rigged and choose to starve the beast rather than feed it?

    This charlatan was placed here in this position to show you how fake the whole thing is. He has pulled a complete 180 since taking office and you folks are only “divided” as to whether or not you can take another 4 years?

    Simply pathetic…

  • David R Velasquez

    Pointless rubbishy conjecture.
    Public perception changes every month. Imagine his advisors scrambling in a panic over this. lol.
    It’s utterly laughable. These polls are just meant to help buoy the careers of political consultants who would otherwise be irrelevant.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    Not even close. He’s going to offer it to Biden again, and if Joe bails, then he’s going to approach Hilary. If Hilary bails he’ll find someone else from the Democratic ranks because he actually understands that there really is a difference between Dems and Republicans, much as the tantrum-throwing purists we find here would beg to differ. It’s a fundamental philosophical difference of opinion and Obama is not going to chuck the vice presidency to someone with whom he has essential philosophical differences.

  • Anonymous

    How’s that ending the FED thing coming?

  • Anonymous

    So explain how your vote meant more?
    And it is not a two party system, there are many parties to choose from and I made my choice. You’re an ass for giving me a hard time about freely choosing who I vote for!!

    Guess what, I didn’t vote for Nader but he’d be loads better than the chump we have as president right now!!

    Two party system? Take a civics class and get back to me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    Could’ve fooled me. You’ll have to catch us up on the news from them. It’s not like they actually carry any weight or have any influence. Even the poor, deluded Tea Partiers are now finding themselves in charge of the coat closets at Congressional receptions. Third parties don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning on a national level. That’s just the way it is.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3XK5UXMXKTOUT55NMTCYI32SQU Pye Wack

    If the choice is between tweedledee and an old man with late-onset dementia and his trusty sidekick who believes she will reign over end-times Alaskan because it’s shaped like a crown, I’ll go with tweedledee.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    Two years out, and only a few weeks after a historic loss of the House to the GOP, Obama’s got 47% of the vote pretty much locked up from people who have landlines and answer the phone. He’s on track to win in a landslide.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3XK5UXMXKTOUT55NMTCYI32SQU Pye Wack

    You had me right up to the teleprompter and jedi-hypnosis techniques.

  • Anonymous

    After Arne Duncan gets through with the public schools, it won’t matter.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6AMTJV7IP3OMKIFNZWBBRMAGA CW Virginia

    Ha, ha, ha … a guy who features Nihilism as his avatar is talking about empty suits and failure. I’ll take you seriously when you learn what nihilism means.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WDCRZLG2KHQVYSWCN4POSUAKWU Michelle Beach

    The Fake Polls tell us we all want to Vote for an Idiot, then they use the Voting Machines to make it so.

  • Melbo58

    Very well, JS. Although you don’t know me to ascribe a dark or light place in my response. I will consider yours. Stay pumped. However at the risk of appearing dark, Who would be your king?

    * time for answers, not hype! What world do you live in that their are no liars?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    I thought that had been legal since the mid 1920s. Am I wrong?

  • Anonymous

    You’re the one trowing a tantrum about a two party system that doesn’t exist.
    And one thing is exactly the same with dems and gop candidates, they’re both HUGE corporate whores. I choose not to vote for them and you say I’m throwing a tantrum?
    Nope, I vote for the candidate of my choice just like you. Why you’re troubled by that is your problem.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TYRSGPGUV7G6KLATV2LYVE7344 Marc

    Try not to be a complete Dolt. Obummer has gone back on well more than 50% of his campaign promises http://obamalies.net/obama-lies-directory. And before you go there — toss any crap about me being Republican, racist or Tea Party. I started and directed grassroots ObamaLA until it was 2,500 volunteers strong. What a joke. Waste of time and THEE Biggest regret of my LIFE. Change? Change MY ASS.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WDCRZLG2KHQVYSWCN4POSUAKWU Michelle Beach

    Obama has philosophical similarities with War Mongering Republicans.

  • Anonymous

    He never won in the first place.

    He was hand-picked by the Corporatocracy and there was a sham fake popular voting.

    Nobody counted that shit.

    The Bilderberg Group danced around a Golden Calf and chose Obama as their Slave/Puppet.

    Had there been a real popular vote, Dennis Kucinich would have won.

  • Anonymous

    People can vote on principles, but I’m pretty sure you’ve never heard of those.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    evidence ?

    I would have preferred Dennis Kucinich

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CS4S4JMWM64MC7IPSDDBF7OIJU Barbara

    Actually, that is the only reason some people (tea bags) have a problem with him. As a leftie, I have many problems with him, the least of which is his color.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CS4S4JMWM64MC7IPSDDBF7OIJU Barbara

    Yes, what is it with this hard on for the teleprompter? Every president has used one since they came into use. Duh?

  • Anonymous

    “…would not win,” is quite different from “doesn’t deserve to win.” You can think he deserves to win and not believe he is going to win, and you can think he doesn’t deserve to win, but will win.
    I don’t see how the two polls are “similar” as claimed in the article.

  • Anonymous

    Evidence?

    Are you insane?

    Who needs evidence?

    Howza bout this evidence:

    ChAMbeR of ComMerCE!!!

    There’s your evidence!!!

    Michelle Beach has it.

    V V V V V V V V V V V V V

  • TheDevilCanDance

    I`ll take your snotty behavior as relevant when you`ll get about a 1000 posts, nOOb…..

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, I voted for Dennis, too. But wishing doesn’t make it so. The majority of Americans will not vote for a man of the people and for the people. They’ve been brain-washed, a worse crime than voting machine shennanigans.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Aka the transparent President :)

  • Anonymous

    Brainwashed eh?

    Wow.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Since they don’t have a suitable candidate,I suggest the Republicans to vote for the best man they ever had, Barak Obama…..

  • Anonymous

    Lincoln wrote down the Gettysburg Address and read it.

    Teleprompter Whacks are some of the Whackiest.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lon-Warneke/1409625620 Lon Warneke

    I’m not voting for him again. As though my vote would matter anyway.
    Whatever the outcome of the election it will be a pre-paid conclusion. The Corporado$ are already buying their choice$…
    Nothing is going to change as long as the voters keep exchanging one inept political party for another inept political party while expecting different results.

  • http://disintermedia8.wordpress.com/ FlatBaroque

    Sanders/Feingold ’12 – Able, willing and ready to give all my sweat

  • Jaimie11

    With such a lackluster field of candidates to choose from the oligarchs might have to run a Muppet in 2012 – at least that would be more honest.

  • RichWa

    I was one of Obama’s base. In 2012, my vote goes to a Stewart/Colbert ticket regardless of who the Republicans run.

    Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me again, shame on me!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dorothy-Banks/100001470098554 Dorothy Banks

    Teabagger Republicans don’t have to spend their money to campaign against President Obama in 2012. The media, polls and pundits have already began an ongoing campaign. All polls will show that the president doesn’t have a chance in hell to win re-election, no matter who the teabagger candidate is. Look for Palin’s popularity numbers to start climbing again.

  • Anonymous

    I know how you feel BUT, you display the attitude that is the bane of this country: apathy. The thinking people have given up on the system and the non-thinkers go to the polls and vote for idiots like Bush and Palin. Get you head out of it and keep on voting and trying to change things for the good. Help get the rethugs out and keep people in government who want to better this country FOR EVERYBODY! That includes you and me!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    Gimme some dots to connect there, Pokey ?

  • Anonymous

    Neoconhater, I used to be as naive as people like CW Virginia. Perhaps they’ll get that Dems and repubs are versions of the same rethug party, the right and the far right. Basically a one party state is what we have now.
    Even some of the dems like kucinich who we think are on our team are suspect. Notice despite all his talk he voted for Obama’s corporate health plan!
    Go Green!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    Fuckin Repukebaggers koch suck !

  • Anonymous

    Obama has done a great job in spite of fierce opposition by the republicans. NOBODY will win a campaign based on fear and hate. Voting against Obama no matter what? Really? The polls – skid row dwellers. Media – Glenn Beck. PUNDITS: Sarah (I don’t need no edjaKayshun) Palin? Yikes!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    “The survey, by CNN and the Opinion Research Corporation,”

    The Clueless “News” Network !

  • Anonymous

    I don’t have much hope. Too many people vote for the stench of dems and gop.
    The plutocracy stinks, why some have lost their sense of smell is a huge problem.

  • bob915

    Landlines people, Landlines. When was the last time you had to cross the room to answer a call?

  • Anonymous

    There are people that knew there were no WMDs. Scott Ritter, Mel Goodman, and Ray McGovern were touring the country and speaking out. No one listened.

  • lilyannerose

    Humph, isn’t Obama’s approval rating well above 50%?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know. Exactly who will trumpet Obama’s message? What I am hearing is that large corporations do not feel they have enough of the pie and they want more. That includes the media who feel they want further deregulation. Will they sing Obama’s praises? And even worse is that the only real hope for Democrats and Progressives was to have a fair and open internet to combat the right wing media, but crazy Obama screwed up the internet even further. The guy has no common sense.

  • Anonymous

    The smart money is not to put money on either republican candidates right now.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, just a fact you seem very happy to deny. There is a choice other than dem or gop.

    I guess you’re a fool as you’ve explained?

    You’ve been brainwashed into the lie a third party can never win a national election. So sad for you.

  • Anonymous

    Many people dislike Obama because he is a fraud and corporate puppet. I couldn’t care less what color of skin the President of the United States has. But I will not give him a pass because he’s the first half-black U.S. President. I will judge the man by his actions. And his actions show that he has continued George Bush’s policies, that he does not support progressive causes, and that he has done nothing to earn my vote in 2012.

  • Anonymous

    How is the polarization in any way blamed on Obama? This isn’t the first time I’ve seen that characterization, and it’s incredibly misleading. The problem is we have these fringe right-wingers who think that somebody like Sarah Palin is qualified to be President, and when they’re treated as “mainstream thinkers” by much of the press, their attempts to portray every Democrat as a polarizing socialist become much more successful and catch on in more of the general public.

    It’s not that Barack Obama has necessarily done anything to be so polarizing. It’s that we have a sizable proportion of the American public that doesn’t understand what’s going on in the country or the world, and they’re just hating who they’re told to hate, including our first black President. How many of them could even tell you who George Soros is, what ACORN’s mission or supposed foibles were, or any bills that Nancy Pelosi has brought to the House floor?

  • Anonymous

    I really don’t know if he will win or not, but when the unemployment rate is above 7% it is very difficult to get re-elected. Even if the Republicans run Donald Duck he might win if he promised jobs. I heard there will be over one million foreclosures this year. They can try to create phony statistics, but I don’t know how many they will fool. There really is no excuse for it either because he had an unlimited amount of information available to him.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has often been a disappointment. But voting for a Talibaptist Rushthuglicon would be a DISASTER!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_USTC5E6P4FBMQRHXC2DBD2TOJE Jim C

    Don’t worry Dorothy , Palins not going anywhere , Huckabillys the one to watch . What Obamas biggest problem may be is his base , which he seems to be doing everything he can to alienate . When given the choice between a republican and a democrat who acts like a republican they just might sit this one out .

  • Anonymous

    For all out there who despise Obama’s use of a teleprompter, here is what happens when you try to quote Abraham Lincoln, without one.

    http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=bush+but+fool+me+can%27t+get+fooled+again

  • Anonymous

    That Obama’s presidency is the most polarizing in the last 50 years says nothing about him or his administration, and everything about the racists and political extremists who oppose him.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. The problem is that if Obama wins he will think he did a great job and the country loves him. Then if the Dems get lucky down the road and win the presidency again the new guy will pick for his advisors all the loser asses that Obama has chosen. Ad-infinitum.

    Think back in history when people compromised with evil and ask yourself if history would be any different if they had not compromised.

  • http://disintermedia8.wordpress.com/ FlatBaroque

    Right there with you.

  • http://disintermedia8.wordpress.com/ FlatBaroque

    I’m sure there is some relevance to the question of whether one banker’s servant or another will be elected. I sure don’t know what it is. But I do know that this man, Barack Obama, has absolutely no business holding any position of leadership whatsoever. He is an extremely well animated husk of a man who lacks any guiding principle besides religiously serving his owners.

  • Anonymous

    TA-4J. I was fortunate enough to be on the last sortie with the agressor squadron in SC. The Ch-46 Frogs here are going to be phased out starting in April. :(

  • Anonymous

    As if he has a choice. Ending up like JFK or RFK is no way to go.

  • Phil E. Drifter

    The only votes that are wasted are the ones cast by people onto the D/R tickets, thinking no other party has a chance.

    Imagine if EVERYONE in the country wanted to vote for Ron Paul, but figured they’d be throwing their vote away if they voted for him, so they voted for Obama’s ‘hopey changey’ campaign instead.

  • Phil E. Drifter

    Bush stole both of his elections, do a little elementary research.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ESQMZ34URJNXQ4XGKHZMOMIW5E Crow

    That is a bit harsh, but I have to say that his kowtowing to corporations has worn thin with me as well.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3CO7EDEIVXRO47OAWUBUUBJXA Textynn Textynn

    I swear if one more bs source tells me that this country is completely divided with only 1% being the deciding factor, I’m gonna puke. How many times are we going to fall for this easily manipulated “supposed” belief that we are always exactly divided.

    The same bs with the phony Bush election. Over and over again we are told that Americans are exactly divided 50 50 and then the worst candidate for the people just happens to get that deciding 1%. Double Duh!

    Obama will win his second term. Simple prediction because Wall Street put him in as a pretend Dem when he really is completely on board with serving corporate America. One of the biggest and most underhanded coups for the Elite I can remember. Talk about having your cake and eat it too. Obama and the rightwing Dems put in Rightwing legislation and then when it continues to tank the economy the Dems will take the blame and we will get a REpub and he will put in more rightwing legislation. Either way it’s a win win for the Corpratocracy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3CO7EDEIVXRO47OAWUBUUBJXA Textynn Textynn

    Or saying everything about is Administration that is really Rightwing and made up of Banking Elite. The same banking elite perpetuating fraud all over the country

  • hourglass1

    trust me … obama will win even with a record setting low voter turn out … why? simple; the owners of everything need a democrat to deal a death blow to the last vestiges of the new deal …

    obama is a silver-tongued politician who sold only himself on the idea that “bipartisanship” was a mechanism for change. his legacy will be the president who finalized the 40+year, think-tank strategized, inheritance-class sponsored coup d’état against “we the people” …

    at the empire’s collapse, a new enlightenment will speak of the first american president of color who stole hope itself and ensured no other candidate of color would ever be considered again.

  • hourglass1

    i think you mean, “suck koch”

  • Anonymous

    These polls are useless. Its about if Americans think he will be reelected, its not who they will vote for in 2012. I expect Obama to win in 2012. Hard to find a Republican to look more appealing than him. And itll be probably 52 or 51% in Obama’s favor.

  • Anonymous

    I was thinking, “This poll is useless,” then scrolled down to see you wrote about the same thing. This poll would be more legitimate if the poll had questioned “likely voters,” not just Americans who have thoughts about who might win. That is completely absurd. I thought the Steelers might win the Super Bowl and we saw how that turned out! The important thing is who actually votes and the candidate they say they will probably vote for if the election were tomorrow. Asking any other question is absolutely ridiculous and renders the poll meaningless.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed except for the “inept” part, Lon. Both parties have become highly ept at serving the monied interests.

  • Anonymous

    Worst. Poll. Question. Ever.

  • Anonymous

    polls polls polls? No jobs no home no food and a bunch of lies you don’t need polls! Fired!

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure if Obama will win or lose in 12, but after reading many of the posts on this thread, I know what I’m going to do; sign off and call a broker to buy ALCOA. There has been a run on tinfoil no one has heard about…..

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure that half of the posts here whacking Obama are false flag ops by paid trolls trying to fan discontent. The other half…..let’s just say that I’m glad my broker put me long into ALCOA.

  • Anonymous

    Obama just keeps giving these corporations , republicans and elite anything they demand behind close doors.
    You will mostly see a candidate run which is none of the a… h…. they are talking about NOW.
    I believe Obama will not get the votes which they are telling us he will receive.
    Where has Obama broken from the same destructive policies that the Bush / Cheney criminal and corporate administration forced down our throats for 8 years.
    Obama is now just as guilty as Bush & Cheney for the war in the middle east , the tax cuts for the top 2 percent (and you can believe that the tax cuts for the top 2 percent will be made permanent if 2012), treason , torture , illegal spying on Americans and the lose of jobs overseas.
    He has backed the same policies which the Bush / Cheney / republicans had which caused it.
    Not only has he pushed the same d… policies but he has even protected Bush and the criminals from the prior administration for their war crimes..
    Obama says one thing but does as his corporate republicans demand him to do.
    Obama words have lost their value..
    If we do not get a real candidate which has real concern and policies for the middle class to run against Obama, then you might as well hand it up for 2012.
    Obama looks more and more like a republican Trojan Horse each and everyday..

  • Anonymous

    You have two choices in 2012 Obama or the Republican nominee. You can vote for a third party, vote for the Republican, or not vote at all.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

    You are so correct. All this hype about ’12 is just the media engine filling air time, and selling commercials to make more MONEY. The media is every bit as corrupt as Wall Street. Just the same money grubbing whores wearing a different outfit on the streets.

  • hourglass1

    they never, ever give up, do they? now the obama bashers are trolls .. these libruls … tsk, tsk, but let’s not concern ourselves with them … thank gawd the market and our favorite ‘street’ is doing so well. praise jeebus we don’t need anything main street has to offer, (except the occasional piece of flesh) eh, sir twinnings? our creator in his divine wisdom provided us with all we need to outlast the working class … it’s just that smell of poverty and dispair that gets to me … any tips on air freshener?

  • dk504

    >>>>Overall, Obama’s first and second years in office both ranked in the top ten most polarizing years of any recent president. His second year was ranked fourth, while his first year was ranked sixth. No president in the last 50 years, since President Dwight Eisenhower, had a more polarizing second year than Obama.<<<<

    Just say what you mean, people are racist pigs and they hate the President because he's black. I didn't vote for a black man or a white man I voted for the person I thought could do the best job. That happens to be colorless. The GOPers haven't gotten that memo.
    The GOPers are going to make Obama into the most evil man in the world, considering the shit storm they caused and have done nothing to help rectify the situation by reigning the fucking bastards we are going to get hit again.
    Even as Obama tries to carry the country out of the depression on his back, to damn bad. He's black, so they gotta hate him. Granted he's done things that have made my blood boil, like on Monday. But he's doing more than anyone else and for all these racist pieces of shit to say he isn't fit to be President, they can kiss my Southern white ass at high noon.

  • Anonymous

    As she did in 2008, Palin will ensure that Obama remains in the White House. She simply poses to much of a threat to any sane person, no matter what their personal views, to risk letting such a dangerously ignorant individual so close to the levers of power. Even people who hate Obama—and there are millions—will vote for him simply to keep her out. And if she doesn’t get the nomination, the departure of her supporters from the ranks of the voters will create a black hole in the GOP voter base that they simply have no time to fill.

    The GOP has behaved like a little kid that gorged on junk food and now cannot stomach a good dinner. They raked in the heat, light and dough that Palin threw their way, never considering what the true cost to the party would be. They will pay in 2012, just as they paid in 2008. They never learn!

  • Anonymous

    We give too much attention to the presidential race. The president today has 2 year terms cause by year 3 we are already talking about the next election.

  • Anonymous

    I’m hoping a Kucinich, Grayson or Dean step up to the plate and primary Obama, as a liberal I would definitely support any one of the three. I only hope that a lot of other liberals feel the same as me. Unfortunately if Obama does retain the nomination I would then be forced to vote 3rd party knowing full well it would be a wasted vote.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if people will come back for another shit sandwich? It will remain the same as long as you support the corporate Candidates, you just have to see where the money comes from and if they are talked about in a normal way by MSM. If they treat a candidate badly or ban him from debates, thats the guy you vote for.

  • Anonymous

    Amen. Most people do not know what a good president he has been. Yes, I wanted him to be more “top down” but in the long run, he has done more in 2 years than most in 8 years. Bush’s 8 is a minus 21. New math.

  • Melbo58

    Sir Walton LIpton, you just explained what happened to two of my posts. (gone and censored) But I say “B’ of course is no where near perfect, but I will debate the demo record to all takers.
    In St. Louis, as Tina Turner said…. we like it hard, not soft. SO, my reply line is open. Lets rock.

  • Melbo58

    True that DK, so lets work your room and I’ll work mine. As a half-breed, I loved my white grandmothers*, lets just work together to try to lift this beloved country UP! Where others would take it down for the love of money.

    * both where from MS. Took their lives in their hands loving who they loved. They taught me to be a proud lib Democrate

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Its February 8, 2011. Obama took office Jan. 20, 2008. At what opoint in my post did I say “the VERY FIRST thing Obama should have been worried about was going after Bush”.

    Since Obama is a Constitutional expert, do you think he is observant of Amendment VI, cl.2 of the United States Constitution that he swore under oath to uphold and defend?

  • Melbo58

    Really HG, that’s a heavy tangled web you weave. I have a question?…… What and , where and, how were you doing when the president of white put us in the shit hole that we find ourselves in now?…..Exactly, what are your solutions, and who can do it better? Name A Name!!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

    The average citizen is not worried about the next election…just the people who make money from their BS are.

  • Anonymous

    Well, to put this in perspective.. I voted for him and supported him and I never thought he’d win the primary.
    I could go either way if you asked me.. anything can happen, particularly with a willfully ignorant electorate and an opposition party that has no shame.

    I can’t say I’m too worried right now though. This is a BS poll. Why do we are whether people think he’ll get reelected. What we should care about is polling about who people will actually vote for.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t had a good thing to say about a republican since Eisenhower.

    But if you don’t see that Obama has played you mentally and financially, then you have the opportunity to be played again.

    Obama is looking out for one person–HIMSELF!

    He will do or say anything that will keep in the luxuries of the White House and enjoying the power of the ego paradise he thrives on. He always was a manipulator and always will be.

    Do you not pay attention? Have you not noticed his dedication to sabotage and thwart every effort to investigate and prosecute Bush? Even to the point of undermining other countries efforts to do so?

    Have you not noticed that he is cozying up with the republicans, giving them what they want and doing interviews on O’Reilley? He is going for the republican votes. He doesn’t care where they come from, as long they come.

    What the hell is wrong with you people who haven’t seen through him yet?

  • Anonymous

    Right. I left out the nuts.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly.

  • Anonymous

    There you go, pulling the race card again.

    Only racists are forever insisting that everyone else view the world through their own distorted racial lense. Get over it.

  • Anonymous

    More crazy conspiracy theories from the Obama crowd.

  • Anonymous

    Racist.

  • Anonymous

    They used to call that “the house ni**er.”

  • shinyorbs

    “In another recent poll by Gallup, respondents pinpointed President Obama as the most polarizing figure in US politics in decade” gee, could it have anything to do with the color of his skin?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t trust this President to stand strong on issues I care about. I don’t trust that he would veto GOP legislation that would set back progressive causes. That said… I DO TRUST the GOP candidate (whomever it may be) to do the wrong thing for the wrong reasons, all to benefit the their corporate masters every damn time. Looks like I’ll be voting Obama and avoiding dropping a big rock on my own foot. I choose disappointment over assured mutual self destruction.

  • Anonymous

    He’s certainly not what I had hoped but to say… “He will do or say anything that will keep [him] in the luxuries of the White House and enjoying the power of the ego paradise he thrives on.” That’s just total bullshit.

  • Anonymous

    Racists pull the race card on people that call them up for being racist.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know there were any left after all the teabagger meetings

  • Anonymous

    That’s true. If only everyone on the other side weren’t 10 times worse.

  • Anonymous

    “The majority” are a bunch of ignorant dumbasses who still believe bu$h was elected twice, and that Saddam had WMDs. More proof people should have to pass a civics test before being allowed to vote.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah. How about the idiot that talked about “emptying the clip” against illegal immigrants! What kind of a hopeless moron makes a remark like that, just a few short weeks after a horrific shooting that took out a Congresswoman and killed several others—including a CHILD?! This is the kind of pathetic waste of protoplasm we have running for elective office.

  • Anonymous

    It is way too early for this.

  • Anonymous

    OK and who would he lose to? LOL!

    People never thought Mr. Obama would win the Presidency but he did!!!

  • Anonymous

    You’re the biggest idiot to post so far!

  • http://twitter.com/Howieisright Howieisright

    He is better than Bush but I am still not satisfied with Obama. We really need a president with balls to put an end to the wrongs that are continuing. I would like to see a real Liberal run instead of a fake. LOL watch this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1UTuYyACSA&feature=related

  • hourglass1

    nothing heavy or tangled about it, melbo … it’s been right out for anyone to piece together since before iran/contra but they haven’t even worried about masking intentions since “we the people” let george the lesser and his base of haves and have mores stage a coup d’etat in 2000 and were silent – as i recall only the congressional black caucus stood and said “no”, but even gore realized it was a lost cause and asked them to stand down –

    this was the final piece of evidence that the real owners had already made their move with clinton’s 1) nod to rips and tears in welfare and letting the food-stamp moms and cadillacs myth win … 2) then his nafta ok (perot was right about the swooshing sound – except it didn’t stop in mexico where it might have benefited the usa somewhat, 3) perhaps most permanently crippling, allowing the chicago school of economic braintrust of the smartest thieves in the boardrooms and thinktanks begin their dismantling of the new deal’s safeguards for america’s common man or working class and i’ll stop at 4) clinton and congresses willingness to attack the very idea of pension funds over the survival of a corporation and relentless attacks on all unions after decades of union support for democrats.

    solutions? for one, you can stop thinking that getting a red, white and blue lubricated buggering by a democrat isn’t a buggering just the same – force the democratic party to renounce corporate donations and live off the funding of the people and get all third parties to agree and unify. if not, the usa is toast – plain and simple … the usa is already the worst at, or denies, it’s working class citizens everything that matters for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

  • Anonymous

    I want to trade him in on a President like Chavez.
    Unless he does a major about face on his policies, which so far are corporate favorable at all costs, I will not vote for him again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PS3ZJ2DB5BBCUXTGVCIECDZT64 One Species

    Muppet Steele fro prez.

  • Anonymous

    who needs a republican if you have this trojan horse cocksuker obama as president? it astounds me how people will get played like motherfukkerz and just smile and cheer for more. Amazing.

  • Anonymous

    Right, I’m the idiot. Do you keep up?

    Obama:

    “I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like with all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s and government had grown and grown but there wasn’t much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think people, he just tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing.”

    I wouldn’t trust Obama 30 feet away if I was watching him with binoculars. He’s a prick. And you (if you have Democratic middle class values) are the idiot if you want him screwing you for four more years..

  • Anonymous

    Obama represents the fine art of Chicago and Illinois politics. That’s what got him elected in the first place and that’s what will keep him there a second time. After all how DOES a never before heard of junior senator get elected.

  • Anonymous

    Its been said before but needs to be said again. If we wanted a Rapeuglican we’d elect a Rapeuglican.

    Obummer I almost think can’t even get my vote to save my live because time after time he has ruled as Rapeuglican. He is the Constitutional Scholar from hell. It started before he even was inaugurated with the shielding the telecoms vote. That’s when it was obvious thing. All the Rapeuglicans have to do is find somebody less odious than Tundra Barbie. If Bloomburg runs I’ll vote for that nazi with a yamaka before Obummer. The Demoncrats have proved to be a waste of time.

  • Elim

    Good riddance.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ODHDTSN5TFE24TZS22LJWXHO6I Rash Lameballs

    Although I do not agree with everything President Obama has done,I can not, for the life of me,see anyone(on the D side) that would be better,if they ran,that could win.So he gets my vote for a second term.And on the R side,I can’t even give a second of my time to consider any of those clowns.

  • Anonymous

    again we have the choice of bad or worse, I truly wish we could vote none of the above! we are fucked no matter who we vote for, thats how our corporatocracy works to keep our tax dollars flowing to all the wrong places. what a fucking joke this country has become!

  • Anonymous

    GREAT POST!

  • Anonymous

    i completly agree, using a black democrat as their trojan horse was pretty ingenius, let everyone have their feel good moment about americas first black president as he continues the job bush started of completly destroying (whats left) of this country.

  • Anonymous

    Who are you asking, Frank Luntz’s “control” group? His sampling shows 40% of Americans think our President’s a muslim. Worthless “study”! BS. Yeah let’s all vote for Sarah Palin, yeah, she’s presidential alright. Smart, articulate, fair, wise, savvy about foreign policy yadayadayada.

  • DesertSun59

    The 2012 election isn’t about Obama.

    It’s about the makeup of the SCOTUS.

    If you can’t undertand that, and you’re liberal, and you’ve decided that you won’t be voting for Obama, then you don’t need to vote. You will be asking for a corporate takeover of the US once the SCOTUS becomes fully fascist.

  • Anonymous

    2008: Tweedledee vs. Tweedledumb

    2012: See “2008″ (above)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4R2P2BMMM5JTCYWGEU4YW6UWQ Dago T

    52% one year … 51% the next year — give him, 8, 10 years and he could get re-elected no problem!

  • BrainRagYell

    Clearly, wise words from yet another Constitutional Scholar trained on paranoia and petulance.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WZCRCELF2YUAWT5MZHSTMRQICE peter

    Sounds like they spoke to a lot of senior citizens on land lines.

  • Anonymous

    I have a feeling that a majority of white people say Obama won’t get a second term. (I am white)

    Well, it’s up to the majority diverse voters who will decide which direction we go. Remember Grant Park when Obama won? Remember the make up of the crowd? If those folks vote, we all win.

    Are we going to let the angry white tea bagging folks win and take us all down with them?

  • Anonymous

    You left out WHITE senior citizens on land lines. I am white.

  • Anonymous

    Are you talking about yourself?

  • BrainRagYell

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    Man, that’s great. I thought I’d read it all around here. That’s terrific.

    Okay, and just so’s were clear, a GOOGLE search for “obama uses hypnosis techniques” reveals nothing but nut-bar websites on the first page. You want to rely on Inforwars or The Free Republic, you go on right ahead, but please know your thinking is being softened by those sites.

  • paddles57

    And flatulence.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care what the poll says the President will be elected to a second term.

  • cannotvote

    Polls are all crap, might as well use astrology, or throw a bunch of bones, even prod at animal intestines! Elections are rigged in the US, that is quite obvious – polls, if anything are just a means of pre-conditioning the angry sheep!

  • Anonymous

    Let me explain something to you: With your attitude, I get the impression you don’t know how our government works. and who makes up the country you live in. I would love for things to go the way you say, but it doesn’t work that way. In case you missed it, we are fighting the huge money interests and take over by some very powerful folks. Go back and read about the Gilded Age. We are living through that now. What we are fighting today, didn’t just happen with Obama (you are pretty disrespectful about our duly elected president too). We are fighting against corporations who now have “people” rights thanks to the supremes and Citizens United. So go ahead and boo hoo all you want. If you think letting the repubs run it all will be good for our country, I truely feel very very very sorry for you. Please study how your country works and what you need to do to help it instead of complaining. Think about it.

  • Anonymous

    And hate. His comment reeks of hate.

  • Anonymous

    Then don’t vote at all. I will hold you responsible for our downfall and I’m sure that will make you happy.

  • Anonymous

    What you fail to get is that it’s all about those with money against the rest of us. Why do folks insist on making it look all so simple? ” If Obama doesn’t do what I want, I’m not going to vote for him”. How childish! Like the repubs who are against every thing I believe and stand for are going to win my vote? No way. No how. I can’t believe how easily folks give up. You views are exacly what the repubs dream about. Why would you ever give them that satisfaction?

  • Anonymous

    I am white and the majority you speak of are ignorant dumbasses who are also WHITE!!!!!!! Racism has more to do with this than folks will admit. We are not a color blind society. I hear and see the hate for those not white everyday. We are a sick country that doesn’t get it. I will be so glad when whites are in the minority. Our country will be better off because we will be forced to work together.

  • Anonymous

    Is your world view really that simple?

  • Anonymous

    Are you serious? I view the 1980s as much more excessive. Reagan started our downfall of good jobs with good pay. I really wonder if you were just a child then.

  • Anonymous

    Either way? Palin, Newt, Hucklebee, Romney ?????????? Give me a break.

  • Anonymous

    That guy won’t even be on the ballot. Please study your history. Our lack of US history is our downfall.

  • Anonymous

    Again, please study your country’s history. We are not set up for a third party.

  • Anonymous

    Won’t happen and shouldn’t. History shows it just weakens us and we will lose. Wake up.

  • Anonymous

    he deserves to lose. kick the lying hypocrite warmongering corporate stooge out of office and take back his “peace” prize!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_33ANPIXUHQA5RM3RTAKAIRFWHE T

    How come the “poll” included NO 18-34 y/o in their survey?

    Choosing demographics this way, you can make a “poll” say anything you want it to say.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EKTMZWPUVVU4CBKH4HWPKPVNCY cal5000

    LOL, you cant say hes going to lose against an imaginary opponent.

    Huckabee released a rapist who just happened to have attacked Bill Clinton’s cousin and then that same mad dog rape and murdered a girl after that.

  • Anonymous

    Here we are again letting the media tell us with their ridiculous polls what we think. Will we be left without a president then? Who the hell is even running against Obama? With the state of the nation who the hell even wants the job? Republicans won’t even step up until the Democrats have fixed this mess that they created, and then they can come in and fuck it up again.

  • Anonymous

    Palin is a very useful tool for the repubs fundraiser wise. I also believe she is all about the money. She is raking in huge sums and will not let that go. If she runs, there goes all the money to be made by herself for herself.

    What’s more interesting is how the repubs must answer to the tea baggers. They made them their own and must answer to them. Many of them don’t appear to be lock step repubs either. (Patriot Act vote just taken).

  • Anonymous

    As long as Sarah Palin, M.Bachman and that ilk stay in the limelight, I think most sane Americans will re-elect Obama. I can see Boehner weeping…

  • Anonymous

    They mean he will lose the primary.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZF7YJAO4XTY6HPLDCVK7L5KGUY JT

    Corporate News Network playing their spin game again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AFULHQYIXBD5BG7RI6AVX4L2DU Michael

    it doesn’t work because people like you keep choosing the lesser of 2 evils. which is still EVIL. it dosen’t work because people like you vote for these corporate bastards. The corporations are the forces we should be fighting not voting for their b.s. politicians. We need to unite, but not under any political parties or factions. the world is one country and we are all it’s citizens.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AFULHQYIXBD5BG7RI6AVX4L2DU Michael

    Hey bozo that’s a quote from OBAMA

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    How do you figure he is not guilty? Obomber is guilty and the military is guilty and the CIA is guilty. That much we KNOW. What we don’t know is who gave the orders. In a representative government what the government ( illegally ) does in our name… we are guilty of as well. How do you feel about that? Do you WANT a government that commits war crimes and you have no say in it? I don’t….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AFULHQYIXBD5BG7RI6AVX4L2DU Michael

    The corporations are the forces we should be fighting not voting for their b.s. politicians. We need to unite, but not under any political parties or factions. the world is one country and we are all it’s citizens.

  • Anonymous

    “The survey, by CNN and the Opinion Research Corporation, found that 51 percent of Americans (PDF) believed Obama would not win a second term, while 47 percent said that he likely would.”

    OK, so Obama will lose next year. To whom? Dwight Eisenhower? Ronald Reagan?

    Ask the same question, but next time pick an opponent from the current crop of potential Republican candidates. Think that you’ll get the same result?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AFULHQYIXBD5BG7RI6AVX4L2DU Michael

    the corporations already won. “peoples united” ring a bell?

  • Sandi

    You really think this is about race? Let’s see. . . Obama extended the war into Pakistan and just sent troops to Egypt. He has extended the Patriot Act once already. He used billions of our money to bail out those who caused the economic crisis through fraud. He passed a health care “law” that hands billions more to the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. In his most recent speech he apologized for not kissing up to the corporations enough so he went to India (at the behest of GE) and repealed a trade treaty that forbade the U.S. selling them items that can be used for military purposes (even Bush didn’t do that). No, this isn’t about race. It’s about Obama being a corporate schill.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he was using the fine art of Little rock, AK politics.

  • Anonymous

    Of course the 80s were more excessive. We had a SURPLUS. We had a MIDDLE CLASS.
    We didnt have 18% unemployment or a 16% poverty rate.

  • Anonymous

    Obama replacements: Dennis Kucinich, Alan Grayson, or Anthony Weiner. I’d actually go with the latter as my first choice.

    Obama the Corporation Pimp needs to go!

  • Schmice

    “Dewey Defeats Truman”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Schmice

    Plessy v Ferguson said that separate but equal was okay. It took a long time, but eventually Brown v Topeka Board of Education overturned it. Let’s hope for the same thing only much much sooner.

  • Schmice

    Thank you. Cogent and well-argued point.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AFULHQYIXBD5BG7RI6AVX4L2DU Michael

    your not that important. get a grip

  • Anonymous

    I’m puzzled by the question. It doesn’t seem to be asking whether people will vote for him, but whether people think others will vote for him. And against whom? Whichever crazy the Republicans come up with? Pretty stupid poll.

  • Anonymous

    Can we all assume you were fast asleep during the eight Bush years or the six GOP majority years?

    You actually think Obama, in the last two years, created the economic mess we’re in right now?

    The recession began in December of 2007…do the math. (That is, if you can.)

  • Anonymous

    Any poll that shows Huckabee and Palin, neck in neck as the GOP favorites is difficult to comprehend.

    Then again, we are fast becoming the dumbest country on the planet, so…who knows.

    And we did elect G.W. twice.

  • Anonymous

    Ronald Reagan’s approval rating during his second year in office ran at about 45%

  • Anonymous

    Asleep or on crack during the Bush years?

  • Anonymous

    How in Gawd’s name could there possibly be 38% in support of that fucking publicity whore bitch-
    unless they’re talking about support her as garbage collector..I don’t get it..she’s a fucking babbling idiot & cold blooded murderer…not to mention totally hideous inside and out.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry for the bad grammar earlier.

    Yes, I think it really could go either way. On a visceral level I never really liked Gore or Kerry. I liked, for the most part, what they did and I respected their service but they weren’t too likable. However, on paper, who would have thought a half-wit like Bush should have won? We elected a self-confessed drunk who failed in almost everything he had ever done. It still blows my mind.
    Could you imagine a Democrat running for the Presidency with the following resume?

    - C average student, didn’t meet minimum qualifications to enter grad school.. enrolled because his father and grandfather went there.
    - Silver-spoon east-coast born and raised elitist who pretended to be a cowboy.
    - Bypassed the waiting line to get into the ‘champaign unit’ of the national guard to stay out of a war.. then didn’t bother to show up anymore when they wanted to drug test him
    - Admitted alcoholic
    - Never traveled outside of the US
    - Ran an oil company in the ground.. in Texas. Abject failure in every business adventure ever undertaken except the baseball team (only because the tax payers bought him a new stadium and he resold for a profit)
    … and on and on.

    This is America, the best candidate doesn’t always win.

  • Anonymous

    Weiner/Grayson is my ideal ticket. At the very, very least I want someone who knows how to speak in complete sentences using real words. Sarah has joined the teeny bopper set and is speaking in acronyms.

  • Anonymous

    Look at his track asshole, and then come back with something intelligent. And where did I say he created the economic mess we’re in?
    Tell me where I said that ASSHOLE!

    DaltonII, like Dalton from Roadhouse? Give us all a break. There was only one Patrick Swayze, and you’ll never be him!

  • Anonymous

    I’m with you on that ticket!

  • Anonymous

    I’m an Obama supporter, for the most part. My gripes are that he isn’t far enough left and that he hasn’t gone after the abuses of the previous administration.

    However, if you read that quote carefully you might see what I see. I don’t read that as an endorsement of Reagan’s economic policies. I read it as an endorsement of Reagan’s ability to connect with the American people and I think the statement is valid.

    The American people were told they needed to do the hard work required to put this nation on a solid footing by Carter and they resoundingly rejected it. If we’d have followed Carter’s vision, we’d be in a radically different place right now. We’d be significantly more independent of middle east oil and we wouldn’t be meddling in their affairs to nearly the same extent. We probably wouldn’t have gone down decades of policy that lead us into two middle eastern wars. I think we’d have also done a much better job at living within our collective means.

    The problem with Carter was that he spoke the truth and we didn’t want to hear it.
    Reagan’s genius was that he (his handlers) figured out that we just want to hear what we want to hear. Reality is irrelevant. We’re a fundamentally stupid nation in the aggregate because it’s easy to tamp down the brilliant bits with the cudgel of the mob (or your own news network).

    I didn’t like that Obama praised Reagan. I think his quote is right though.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    Sure! The answer in two simple words: Ronald Reagan. Nuff said.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is a DINO with absolutely no backbone. His administration has not conducted one investigation concerning crimes committed before he took office. The only change he has brought to America is his change is party affiliations. He let the republicans rewrite all of the bills he promised to pass so that when they were passed they were all republican written bills. The ideas he brings with him are admittedly thought up by republicans. I thought I was voting for a democrat who would bring about real change, I cannot and will not vote that him again. Obama is nothing more than a wolf in a jackass suit.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    It’s simple. A TIE between two religious nuts. THAT takes care of about 99 percent of the GOPTEAdiot demographic right there. But, just like in physics, two bodies of matter cannot occupy the same space, so there has to be one “first” and one “second”.

  • Anonymous

    The downfall of the Democratic Party will not be brought about by someone who respects the President of another country for keeping his word to his people, but by those in the Democratic Party who cannot or will not keep their word to the people who elected them.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly, a man who cannot and will not stand by his word has no honor and will not get my vote, I would rather not vote than to vote for a liar.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OGIQH2E3GAHEC2CQXLWGQDQVOY Jay S

    Here’s one more registered Democrat that WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA AGAIN! Now, that is change you can believe in!!!

  • Jaimie11

    There’s plenty of time between then and now for Obama to perform a miracle to two, or get to respond to a terror attack of some sort. Either sort of event will probably give Democrat voters very short memories, especially if the Republicans run anybody with Palin or someone like her on their ticket.

  • Melbo58

    TS< can you tell me how you know these people are leftist? Can I send you some video of Palin supporters? In the mean time,KISS my ass, and show some respect for your POTUS who can at least travel abroad without the fear of arrest!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AFULHQYIXBD5BG7RI6AVX4L2DU Michael

    there’s another article on Raw Story about Obama’s support for the extension of the Patriot Act. How are his apologists going to explain away his position on this one? what about the fourth and fifth amendments to The Constitution. this guy is a constitutional scholar. what a joke. i thought he was elected to clean up Bush’s mess?

  • Melbo58

    This leftist prays that the debased T-gNOp runs this skank and
    let’s say……Bachman,Ryan,ect. Obama is in no way perfect, but I can’t help but wonder what could have been if he had more support from the “blue dogs” slash dixiecrats.

  • Melbo58

    That’s a good dream, but again until the demos show the same party loyalty the RePunks do, they won’t be able to do squat either! No man or woman can do it alone.

  • Melbo58

    Well, at least he can travel to other countries without the fear of arrest for war crimes.*Or were you proud of our last commander-in-fool?

    *T-baggers are so gay!

  • Melbo58

    And that’s the point, Pettey. From my earlier post,the methods that the polling orgs are using have been out of date by at least 10yrs. The youth mostly are on cell. Pay no attn. to polls other than a 50,000 ft snap shot.

  • Melbo58

    True that UsaBs! ( as I take a deep drag on my cuban cigar)

  • Melbo58

    This is the type of circus clown who ran Ralph Nader in 2000 and gave us Shrub Jr. You’re wasting your time trying to reason with these trolls. They will be by-passed in ’12

  • Melbo58

    TS, one grown up american to another……Your current POTUS is black! It’s tough getting over the white superman thing after 300yrs. Most americans have shown they can make the change without busting a sweat. DO you really want to fight the civil war again? How did that turn out for your ilk the last time? Ever heard of the buffalo soldiers?

  • Melbo58

    Point taken RT, I however will bet on America and us to recover like we always until now have. The Repunks are betting against the house, I love a good fight.

  • Anonymous

    Obama will get re-elected if the economy improves and is perceived as being on an upward trend. The guy is a pragmatist. He knows what he wants and focuses on what he can get. His goal is clearly to raise the middle class and reduce the trend towards concentration of wealth.

    What do you prefer – that he make no compromises, or that he gets the best bargain he can?

  • Anonymous

    Do your own & see the two states Like PA.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TTCYMSQW7E5EVBYYMS2YSNCSAM Anonymous

    I don’t feel divided at all. No, just no. If the Democratic Party wants my vote in 2012, they’ll have to do a lot better than that man. If they can’t, I’ll be voting third party, thank you.

  • Taleisin

    If a Democratic president is elected you will still have republican dominated the house for another two years. That means 3 years of this kind of politics.
    You will have to wait until you can get both the house and the president as democrats to get effective government. But you will most probably get Republican before that happens.
    And after that it won’t matter what the democrats do. You’ll be well and properly……!

  • Anonymous

    He has not interest in raising the middle class. He cares only for his own outcome.

  • Anonymous

    So what was the battle for health-care all about? No it’s not a great bill, but it is a foot in the door and as long as it exists it will be improved upon. Why did he take on that politically costly cause? Because it’s a major element to reversing the trend toward concentration of wealth. Krugman’s “Conscience of a Liberal” highlights it’s importance and I wouldn’t be surprised if the Obama camp was motivated by that argument. He can’t dictate everything he wants, but through strategic compromise he’ll move things in the right direction.

  • Anonymous

    My thanks, not that you need it, for the rationale for Rons naming his son Rand. Stupid I must be, because I never got the connection!! Good piece. Heartless and Selfish runs the Paul colony. Get the whole story, people, before raising the Paul banner. Please!!!

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