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Egypt VP favored by Israel to succeed Mubarak, cables show

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Tuesday, February 8, 2011 9:51 EDT
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Israel has long seen Omar Suleiman, Egypt’s recently appointed vice president, as the successor to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, US State Department cables released by secrets outlet WikiLeaks show.

One document detailed Israel Defense Minister Ehud Barak’s 2008 meeting with Suleiman, the then-Egyptian spy chief, as recalled by Israel’s Arab Affairs Adviser David Hacham.

“In terms of atmospherics, Hacham said the Israeli delegation was ‘shocked’ by Mubarak’s aged appearance and slurred speech,” the cable noted.

“Hacham was full of praise for Soliman, however, and noted that a ‘hot line’ set up between the MOD [Ministry of Defense] and Egyptian General Intelligence Service is now in daily use. Hacham said he sometimes speaks to Soliman’s deputy Mohammed Ibrahim several times a day. Hacham noted that the Israelis believe Soliman is likely to serve as at least an interim President if Mubarak dies or is incapacitated.”

The cable added: “We defer to Embassy Cairo for analysis of Egyptian succession scenarios, but there is no question that Israel is most comfortable with the prospect of Omar Soliman.”

Another document described how Suleiman expressed his desire for a peaceful resolution of the Israel-Palestine crisis.

“The Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains the core issue; Soliman contended a peaceful resolution would be a ‘big blow’ to terrorist organizations that use the conflict as a pretext,” US Deputy Chief of Mission Stuart Jones wrote in the cable.

A third cable said that Suleiman believed Iran was a “significant threat” to Egypt.

The New Yorker‘s Jane Mayer also noted that Suleiman “was the CIA’s point man in Egypt for rendition.”

As Egypt’s spy chief, Suleiman reportedly embraced the CIA’s controversial “extraordinary rendition” program, in which terror suspects snatched by the Americans were taken to Egypt and other countries without legal proceedings and subjected to interrogations.

US officials told The New York Times a US plan to replace Mubarak with Suleiman was one of several under consideration, and there was no evidence yet that the Egyptian leadership would accept it.

On Sunday, Suleiman made limited concessions during a meeting with government opposition, but he stopped short of agreeing to Mubarak’s immediate exit. The vice president promised to allow freedom of the press, to release detained protesters and eventually lift the country’s emergency laws.

 
 
 
 
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  • Taleisin

    Suleiman sounds perfect. The USA wants him, Israel wants him and he’s partial to a bit of torture.
    Everyone’s happy.

  • Anonymous

    Between this and Mr. Wisner, President Barack Obama’s envoy to Cairo who urged Hosni Mubarak to remain President of Egypt, we can see that the powers-that-be prefer stability and control more than freedom and democracy.

    Sad, but true.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Birds of a feather….

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Sulieman is the Arabic word for “I am not squeamish”.

  • Anonymous

    See DemocracyNow program from Monday, February 7, 2011:

    http://www.democracynow.org/shows/2011/2/7

    Egyptian human rights activist Hossam Bahgat explains how Suleiman would be seen as merely a continuation of the Mubarak regime.

    One of his primary roles in the past has been supression of individual freedoms. Including implementation of the Gaza blockade. No wonder why Israel would approve of him.

  • Anonymous

    The US and Israel are not democracies as their support for dictatorships show them to be nothing but shadow governments. The Declaration of Independence and Constitution are irrelevant to the current American regime. Israel has neither. Their MIC, Intelligence agencies and oligarchs run the show and the people are nothing but sheeple that follow what the are told. The sheeple have been whipped into a high degree of nationalism not seen since pre-WWII Germany and could care less about human rights, constitutions, democracy, et. al. The entire world can now see how these two governments operate as well as their own. Eisenhower predicted this kind of groundswell for peace. Hopefully this is the time.

  • Anonymous

    Who does Israel think they are?? Why is Egypt any of their business?? Same for the US.
    What a bunch of hypocrites.

  • Anonymous

    of course it is their business! Israel gets 50 percent of their gas from Egypt and has peace treaty with them. It must also be the US biz since the US gives Egypt over a billion a year in aid.

  • Anonymous

    That is not at all what Ike predicted. You vote? that is not democracy? what is then, when you can help decide who will run in order for elections to be held. All are sheeple but you stand apart, a lone guy in a world deceived. Golly, are you lonely?

  • Anonymous

    Of course he will be the same…but if all ruling the nation left at 5 today, who would be in charge?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    Israel is virtually surrounded by countries that want to exterminate them. I’d say that it would be insane if they DIDN’T have some pretty strong opinions about who is in charge of a very well armed country that has already attacked them in the past!

  • Anonymous

    Israel brings it on themselves.

  • Anonymous

    Always about money.

  • Anonymous

    In the US we vote, but that is all. It doesn’t mean that our votes count. Usually, they do not.
    Elections are big business, and that is the only reason we have them in the US. Otherwise, the Rethugs do not want you to vote, and the Dems want you to think you are voting.

  • Greg Eckhart

    2008?
    At the outer edge of Wikileaks’ time line….?
    So the Israeli Arab Affairs guy sat in a meeting with Israeli Defense Minister and then they informed the US Ambassador that Sulieman would be a good mensch? Since all involved would simply be discussing Post-Mubarak Egypt because of the man’s age, they seemingly are unaware that Mubarak was publicly grooming his son for transition and not the head of the Intelligence Agency? Was Suliemen one of the CIA ‘guys’ running the Arab world as alluded to by earlier Wikileaks teasers courtesy of Assange?

    A little too timely…a little too pat…it feels invented.

    I’m thinking the reason Wikileaks hasn’t been released in total, is because they are still writing them….

  • Anonymous

    1) Put the military in charge for a very short period – perhaps a week.
    2) Set up a caretaker government tasked with holding elections within a year.
    3) Allow alternative political parties do develope and campaign.
    4) Hold an election.

  • ThorsteinVeblen2012

    I recommend Henry Kissinger’s “A World Restored” about Metternich and the subversion of democracy in the name of order. Metternich was a master of Machiavellian deceit, therefore Kissinger’s hero and the model of modern diplomacy.”Conservatism” or the Conservative Order was devised after the defeat of Napoleon as a the means of maintaining monarchy in Europe and throughout the world. The American Revolution and the resurgence of its spirit after the defeat of Napoleon posed a threat to their tidy ordered world and needed to crushed. Kissinger dismisses the democratic wave the American Revolution created as a “revolutionary period” like a bad weather cycle. Its important to understand how these bastards think.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Valentine/1277133078 Michael Valentine

    Well of America and Israel want him …..

  • Anonymous

    The candidates are screened and then picked for the people by the RNC and DNC. Then we vote for the lesser of two evils or a third party candidate. Both Republicans and Democrats are militaristic empire oriented. America has many independents but no third party organization.

    Populists, progressives and libertarians have no one to choose from

  • Anonymous

    The other day a T.A.D. (Typical American Douchebag) said — and we’ve heard this dozens of times — that Wikileaks hadn’t accomplished anything?

    Excepting, everything it has instigated, long in the making, from Scandinavia to Spain, from the UK to Greece and throughout North Africa and the Mideast.

    When a radio announcer in Tunis read the Wikileaked documents explaining the the thievery and extraordinary wealth of the Tunisian dictator, the people already knew the generalities, but it served as a catalyzing event.

    When Wikileaked documents fully explained the consistent collusion between Mubarak and the Israelis against the Palenstinians (their economic warefare, etc.) along with Mubarak’s billions of theft from the Egyptian people, people knew this in general, but it served as a catalyzing event.

    In Spain, the compromising of the Spanish judicial system by the Obama Administration, in support of the previous Bush Administration, rised the people’s hackles considerably.

    Whether in Greece, Russia, Sweden or elsewhere, again and again Wikileaked cables from the US State Department has served as catalyzing events.

    In Sweden, scandals have been brought to light regarding present and past political figures, and their Foreign Affairs Minister***, Carl Bildt (former president of that country), is adamant that Assange of Wikileaks be extradited to Gothenburg, home to Jeppesen Systems AB (subsidiary of Boeing and an affiliate of extreme rendition airlines, Jeppesen Dataplan, another Boeing sub).

    And what do we know of Carl Bildt? That he was a director at Lundin Petroleum during their years of mayhem in Sudan.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lundin_Petroleum

    http://www.ecosonline.org/reports/2010/UNPAID_DEBT_fullreportweb.pdf

    Always interesting, and always predictable, the way it always ties together.

    ***Evidently Sweden, like the USA, likes to recycle their corrupt politicians with Bildt now their equivalent of the US Secretary of State, which we now have the recycled First Lady in charge of. Bildt, interestingly, was also a director at the British MI6 cutout, Hakluyt & Company, which boasts another well known director, one Frank Wisner, Jr.

    Yup, it always connects together…..

  • Anonymous

    From Sulieman the Magnificent to Sulieman the Mensch….my how the Arab World has fallen.

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    Omar Suleiman has all the dirt on the US Israeli 9/11 operation

    President Muḥammad Ḥusnī Sayyid Mubārak
    has all the dirt on the US Israeli 9/11 operation

  • Anonymous

    Paraphrasing Kissinger, he has said that nations don’t have principles or morals, just interests.

    PS I like your handle. Is that Veblen’s image, too?

  • Anonymous

    Okay..the arrest him along with Bush for war crimes…torturing

    I read recently that Israel “bought” (explains Mubaraks, 70 billion dollar bank accounts) all of Egypt’s natural gas..(Egypt has no other natural resource) and is now selling it back to them, to use in their homes. at an exorbitant price (add that insult to the “commodities bubble”, that Wall Street is implementing)…on to the backs of those who make around two dollars a day, and yes..you get a peasant uprising…….if this is true…..puts a little different “spin” on Israel and the protectors of Israel (the U.S.) story doesn’t it…? and why so many of the middle east hate the U.S….we always seem to coddle Israel (and Saudi Arabia) at the expense of the rest of the people of the Middle-East………

  • Anonymous

    If this Israeli most favored candidate gets the nod for President in Egypt then the road to peace is guaranteed. Mr. Nethanyahu and his foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman would have “their man” in Cairo as an ally to their man Eric Cantor in DC. What a coup that would be?

  • Guest

    You mean the hush money we pay to Egypt? If it weren’t for Israel’s brutal policies, there’d be no need for it.

  • Anonymous

    Shocking, eh?

    And, yes, those people out there in the Middle East do hate us for our freedoms. Our freedoms to enslave them. Our freedoms to hand-pick the dictators that will repress them. Our freedoms to help ourselves to anything they have and we want. Our freedoms to invade them. Our freedoms to occupy them. Our freedoms to bomb them. Our freedoms to fuck them. Our freedoms. It’s all about our freedoms.

  • Anonymous

    ‘Terror attack on Egypt-Israel gas pipeline in El-Arish’

    http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=206881

  • Anonymous

    What a crock of shit! If anybody wants to exterminate anybody else – and is doing a bang up job of it too – that would be Israel. It’s funny how your Zionist history only begins when others defend themselves and never when Israel attacks.

    Stop spreading lies!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KLF5SUA5RDYXG54WWF5SHMVRAI X

    Obama supports whoever has the least respect for human rights. He’s a member of the Dictators Club.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    You truly live in a world of paranoid delusion. I would cite facts, history, and well-known events, but, like a psychiatrist friend told me once “you can’t reason with crazy”.

    Good luck with that.

  • ThorsteinVeblen2012

    The question is how does Kissinger define a nation?

    Not as a people but as the political and economic apparatus.

    What are that nation’s objectives?

    Perpetuating itself.

    Metternich instituted the conference system after the defeat of Napoleon to ward against the spread of democracy in Europe. Democratic movements were crushed as was the effort towards constitutional government. These were threats to the elite who have controlled society since recorded history.

    Today we have that legacy, the G-20, whose objective is to perpetuate the established order. Democracy is the enemy as Kissinger noted. That was what drew conservatives to him.

    They rig the system they put into power corrupt puppets like Mubarak and his anointed successor Suleiman.

    We are the fodder for their wars. We exist for their amusement.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    You should never ask your 12 yr old brother to write on your behalf :)

  • TheDevilCanDance

    The problem is, Egyptian gas is sold under market value to Israel, but this must be an antisemitic conspiracy ?. :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers

    Perhaps you SHOULD ask a 12 year old to write on your behalf ;)

  • Anonymous

    sorry but you are wrong. Israel buys gas (50%) of what they need from Egypt.Called fair trade. Soon Israel will have its own gas and enough to sell elsewhere. Or do you object to that too?

  • Anonymous

    ass

  • Anonymous

    who began how many wars AGAINST Israel? start there.

  • Anonymous

    Ohk, I see. no brutal policies in Egypt. and that is why all is so peaceful downtown. And In Lebanon and in Jordan …brutal? tell us abut your nation in Iraq …waterboarding, Cuba prisons. etc etc

  • TheDevilCanDance

    If only you could afford my ass…Hahaha

  • TheDevilCanDance

    I apologize Buck Rogers, you deserve the Ass Clown award of the day, feel better now? :)

  • Roberthe

    That we amuse them is secondary to our true role as slaves and cannon fodder. We exist as long as we have utility.

  • Roberthe

    Israel fired first in 1956 and 1967, the Arabs in 1948 and 1973. Both sides would claim insufferable provocation in all instances. Currently the Israelis appear to be in the middle of an ongoing process to Balkanize the entire West Bank, whereas they are content to allow Gaza to function as the southern equivalent of the Warsaw Ghetto. Regardless, who leads Egypt ought to be the sole province of the Egyptian people, free of interference from us or from the Israelis. At the same time, the West Bank is Palestinian and Israel has no legal right to establish settlement therein; all they have is blind force and the backing for 40 years of successive American administrations.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Israel,
    Thanks for letting me know that Suleiman is your bitch. Now I don’t have to assume.
    Regards,
    johnnybbad

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Israel also favors “cleansing” certain Palestinian neighborhoods.
    When can we stop their lobbyists from controlling American politics?
    Something tells me the Egyptian people will be pissed about this. (too bad the American people will go back to buying post superbowl memorabilia and eating ho-hos)

  • Anonymous

    Interesting is the contradiction between the wrong-wingers who exclaim “America’s Exceptionalism” while promoting actions and policies typical of any other country and tin-pot dictator.

  • Roberthe

    What makes it exceptionalism is that we, America, do it. In that we are Anointed and most loved of God (etc, etc) whatever we do will by necessity be exceptional. Any other country acting in the same way would be guilty of mass murder and/or the subversion of the democratic process. Since we’re holy we can’t be hypocrites.

  • Anonymous

    Zionists’ disrespect of partition boundaries

    “Before the end of the mandate and, therefore before any possible intervention by Arab states, the Jews, taking advantage of their superior military preparation and organization, had occupied…most of the Arab cities in Palestine before May 15, 1948. Tiberias was occupied on April 19, 1948, Haifa on April 22, Jaffa on April 28, the Arab quarters in the New City of Jerusalem on April 30, Beisan on May 8, Safad on May 10 and Acre on May 14, 1948…In contrast, the Palestine Arabs did not seize any of the territories reserved for the Jewish state under the partition resolution.” British author, Henry Cattan, “Palestine, The Arabs and Israel.”

    The Israelis now allege that the Palestine war began with the entry of the Arab armies into Palestine after 15 May 1948. But that was the second phase of the war; they overlook the massacres, expulsions and dispossessions which took place prior to that date and which necessitated Arab states’ intervention.” Sami Hadawi, “Bitter Harvest.”

  • Anonymous

    The Deir Yassin Massacre of Palestinians by Jewish soldiers

    “For the entire day of April 9, 1948, Irgun and LEHI soldiers carried out the slaughter in a cold and premeditated fashion…The attackers ‘lined men, women and children up against the walls and shot them,’…The ruthlessness of the attack on Deir Yassin shocked Jewish and world opinion alike, drove fear and panic into the Arab population, and led to the flight of unarmed civilians from their homes all over the country.” Israeli author, Simha Flapan, “The Birth of Israel.”

  • Anonymous

    Was Deir Yassin the only act of its kind?

    “By 1948, the Jew was not only able to ‘defend himself’ but to commit massive atrocities as well. Indeed, according to the former director of the Israeli army archives, ‘in almost every village occupied by us during the War of Independence, acts were committed which are defined as war crimes, such as murders, massacres, and rapes’…Uri Milstein, the authoritative Israeli military historian of the 1948 war, goes one step further, maintaining that ‘every skirmish ended in a massacre of Arabs.’” Norman Finkelstein, “Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict.”

  • Anonymous

    The following should give you a very good and clear idea of who and how it all began. If you wish, I can do the same thing with each and every other conflict. Just because your Zionist revisionist history starts when the other side reacts, it doesn’t mean that it’s either true nor that other people are blind to facts and the real events.

  • Anonymous

    This has got to be one of the most priceless pieces I’ve ever seen from ZIonist and/or Fundie. ROFL!

    You can cite but why bother. Priceless! For everything else, there’s Zionist denial. And the best part is the projection. And so transparent too. I hope that psychiatrist “friend” of yours is giving you more than advice, if you know what I mean.

  • Anonymous

    WTF?

  • Anonymous

    Oh, boo fucking hoo. Too bad they didn’t think about that before they stole the land from the Palestinians. Oops!

    You know, what’s good for the goose is also good for the gander.

  • Anonymous

    Not unlike Richard Nixon telling David Frost that when the president does ‘it’, ‘it’ is not illegal.
    Got it.
    Thanks.

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