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Bachmann ignores slavery in African-American history again

By Nathan Diebenow
Friday, February 11, 2011 21:30 EDT
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Black History Month was made for people like Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN).

However, it increasingly looks as though the tea party heroine not only never paid attention to African-American history but seeks to re-write it in her own image.

“Other than Native Americans who were here, all of us have the same story,” Bachmann told the National Press Club at a “Tea Party Express Forum” Tuesday.

She went on to insist that all Americans are descendants of “a risk-taker from their home country, doesn’t matter what the country is, but they took a risk, and they came here.”

“And they knew when they came here they weren’t coming for a welfare state,” Bachmann continued. “They were coming here for the thrill of writing their own ticket. Who did we attract? People that wanted a better life and were willing to do what it took to get it.”

Bachmann’s remarks completely ignored the fact that the ancestors of today’s African-Americans were brought to the United States involuntarily as slaves. One of the framers, Thomas Jefferson, famously fathered children with Sally Hemmings, one of his slaves.

Her whitewash of US history is her second in as many months, following her statement in Iowa that race was not a factor in the creation of the US government.

The term “slave” appeared in the original draft of the US Constitution; the final version, however, the “Three-Fifths Compromise” stated that the population of slaves within states would be considered three-fifths of citizens for purposes of determining taxation and representation in Congress.

None of the Founding Fathers lived to see African-American slaves attain their freedom and rights of US citizenship or participated in the full abolition of slavery as an economic institution within the borders of the United States.

Bachmann has earned something of a cult following with her vicious attacks and occasionally conspiratorial claims about the Obama administration. She’s also no stranger to factual inaccuracies. Bill Adair, editor of the Pulitzer Prize-winning PolitiFact, said her claims tend to be false more often than just about any other politician.

This video is from C-SPAN, broadcast Feb. 8, 2011, as snipped by Mediaite.

With reporting by Sahil Kapur.

 
 
 
 
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  • Anonymous

    It’s like she’s talking to a class of pre-schoolers. Her lack of intellectual depth and awareness of the suffering in American history is frightening for any adult, let alone a US Congresswoman.

  • http://smugmug.com/other/anoceanapart Maheanuu

    I believe that Michele is a pious, Reich Wing Xtian Fundie puke, and you know that those buttwipes are all 10 – 15 bricks short of a full load.. Now in the crap department they all are 200% overloaded.

    Todays amerika is very deserving of what it is getting….. Imperialism and empire sure make the dog shit stink don’t they? You are in the abyss, you just don’t realize it as you are in free fall. That sudden stop at the bottom should wake you up, but by that time it will be too late and all the historical facts will point at your total disregard of proven facts and information that you had in advance but in your rush to become a Fascist/Religious State. It will take you the better part of the century to get back on track, and that is if the Reich Wingers will allow you to do so.

    For any of you who have even a glimmer of hope and need out, that door will slam shut in the very near future also….

  • Anonymous

    Other than the Native Americans who suffered a genocidal holocaust at the hands of Bachmann’s risk-taking ancestors, all of us here have the same story…except for teagaggers who live in a parallel universe where they just make shit up.

  • Anonymous

    No, there’s hope for pre-schoolers. Their minds are blank slates. The teagaggers are willfully ignorant and actively seek “leaders” who lie to them. They’re beyond redemption.

  • Anonymous

    “All Americans are equal – except for the N…”

    How exactly did this woman get reelected? I find it hard to believe that an entire electorate is that stupid!

  • Anonymous

    I am guessing she enjoys rock because it matches her intellectual capacity. I am not talking about music. I am talking about granite.

  • Anonymous

    Minnesota, taker a good long look at yourself.

  • Anonymous

    She is stupidity personified.

  • DesertWren

    I guess you do not need a welfare state if you have all the work being done by slaves, huh?

    The crazies talk about taking America back to the good old days, but that doesn’t sound too appealing if you mention all the bad things in the past like slavery, child labor, the elderly starving to death, 80+ hour work weeks and poor houses. All things that have been eliminated due to the welfare state. Their appeals for neofeudalism sound great if you are rich and are a sociopath, but they should scare the living crap out of everyone else.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C3GUDH4VDDIX3KO52FR3G23ONU STEVE

    big biz requires the dumbing down of america, so we don’t question their “god”-like will.

  • Anonymous

    Bachmann is truly the derivation of bitch. Proves it over, and over, and over again.

    Ugghhh.

    I don’t know what the hell is wrong with you people in Minnesota.

  • Anonymous

    $tupidest. American. Woman. Ever. What’s worse is, some Minnesotans thought she was qualified to represent them. My impression of Minnesota continues its plunge into the abyss.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NBXAR4WS4RTZBCTNYPU2FGWYEI matt

    Somebody introduce Michelle Bachman to a black person.

  • Anonymous

    “They weren’t coming for a welfare state,” Bachmann continued.”

    Is she still getting those farming subsidies on the land her family owns?

  • http://twitter.com/rexi44 Rexi44

    Cannot believe what comes out of this woman’s mouth. She’s giving ignorance a bad name!

  • http://twitter.com/rexi44 Rexi44

    Cannot believe what comes out of this woman’s mouth. She’s giving ignorance a bad name ;)

  • William Keiser

    “There is a quality in certain people which is above all advice, exposure, or correction. Only let a man or woman have Dullness sufficient, and they need bow to no extant authority.

    A dullard recognizes no betters; a dullard can’t see that he is in the wrong; a dullard has no scruples of conscience, no doubts of pleasing, or succeeding, or doing right, no qualms for other people’s feelings, no respect but for the fool himself. How can you make a fool perceive that he is a fool? Such a personage can no more see his own folly than he can see his own ears. And the great quality of dullness is to be unalterably contented with itself. What myriads of souls are there of this admirable sort — selfish, stingy, ignorant, passionate, brutal, bad sons, mothers, fathers, never known to do kind actions! William Makepeace Thackeray (1843).”

  • GunTotingLib

    Well not the entire electorate, but 52% of them. She also spent more on her reelection than any other House of Representative candidate. So basically the teaparty bought it for her.

  • GunTotingLib

    Or at least point to one in a picture for her…

  • Anonymous

    Wrong. Bachmann and her handlers know EXACTLY what she is saying. It is COVERT RACISM… or not-so-covert, depending on your own awareness of what their sick minds are capable of (ex. Nazi Germany).

  • Anonymous

    because it’s much easier and simpler to believe a lie… than to get your lazy fat fucking tea party ass off of the sofa and away from American Idol to go and read a book and actually learn something.

  • Anonymous

    make her stop my ears are bleeding!

  • http://twitter.com/Howieisright Howieisright

    She could claim ignorance like the rest of them.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8JtSXChP1A

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VKTCM2DCWPVUXEKN5G5QNTBJNQ Dustin A

    It seems Bachman seems to forget — intentionally or unintentionally — that many people who came here “willingly” were given FREE land just for showing up and claiming it… I’ve heard definitions of welfare eerily similar to such descriptions… quirky eh? Oh, her being a bigot of the most racist leaning is nothing if not old news. Her kind has no place on this earth; she’s a disgrace to the human race.

  • Anonymous

    I always liked George Carlin’s take on things–”Consider how stupid the average person is, and then consider that half the people are stupider than that!”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SD6UGMEOGQEGMC44ZCRV3PFOL4 Twist

    You think she’s stupid.. she’s just a reflection of the people who put her in office.

  • iRead

    Apparently not ALL Minnesotans have gone wrong, as evidenced by the presence of junior U.S. Senator Al Franken.

  • iRead

    She’s not just a disgrace, she’s a warning. Therein lies her only true value to society.

  • Anonymous

    The MN-6 is so gerrymandered, if the repuke candidate was a little bag of dog crap, it would be Representative Little Bag of Dog Crap come the following January 3rd.

  • Anonymous

    Very few blacks in her district now, but it’s changing.

    Will be interesting to see what happens when the state is re-apportioned. She actually gets about 10 percent less of the vote than another repuke would get in that gerrymandered district.

    That being said, the Minnesota repukes are the dumbest in the country. She might be back in 2013.

  • Anonymous

    It’s gerrymandering. Even the repukes want her redistricted out of existence.

  • Anonymous

    It was tight, about 365 votes. Dayton won MN-Gov by about 10,000 out of 3 million.

  • Anonymous

    These types really think that the African slaves had a good deal before the Civil War.

    Andy Rooney even said that the conditions on the ships that brought the Europeans over to the US weren’t much better than the slave ships.

    Seriously.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEXM3JIDW3B4NMBDQU4X5S4P44 Phil

    For some reason that photo makes me think of Alien. Perhaps it’s the compassionate expression.

  • Anonymous

    She’s not stupid, but she knows her fans are. Teagaggers are the equivalent of the Jerry Springer audience.

  • http://www.michaeledwardkelly.com Michael E. Kelly

    I disagree. I’ve seen nothing in her media presence that can signify any level of competence or intelligence. She’s not sly like a fox, she’s dumb as rock.

  • bumerry

    You are referring to 18th century capitalism, not feudalism, a form of socialism that generally worked better for the disadvantaged than what we have now. Under feudalism, the poor and disabled and otherwise disadvantaged were cared for because medieval people believed that misfortune just happened and wasn’t anyone’s fault. Under feudalism, the wealthy were legally obligated to care for the people who lived and worked on their land. The Catholic clergy were legally bound to provide a welfare state to supplement that of the landed wealthy, and they did a good job by and large. Read Thomas Aquinas’ _Summa Theologica_ for a good look into feudalism..

    The rise of capitalism and protestantism destroyed a good social order and created anarchy. Mutual obligation and interdependence – no man is an island – gave way to anarchy, with every man for himself. Under such conditions, the wealthy blossom and survive while the disadvantaged wither and die. As a disabled American in insurmountable debt for life saving care, I’d give anything for the morals and behaviors of the majority of feudal leaders to infiltrate Amenrican politics.

  • bumerry

    I’m fat. I’m often confined to a sofa or bed because I have a disease that paralyzes me evrey other day or so, enforced laziness of the most maddening kind. Sometimes, when my fingers can’t move to type, or I want to share a fun time with my aging dad who’s dyslexic, I watch television.

    How does hatefully stereotyping me for these traits make you a better person than Bachmann or any other teabagger, I wonder.

    Hatred and prejudice are never helpful.

  • http://mexfiles.net Richard Grabman

    Ms. Bachmann also forgets those Mexican Americans who didn’t come here as “risk takers” but woke up on morning in 1848 and found the border had changed. Or the Puerto Ricans, and the Texans and Hawai’ians … or those transported to Georgia as criminals and vagabonds… or…

  • iRead

    Close or not Mr. Franken, professional commedian, beat professional politician and asshat Norm Coleman. That speaks pretty well of way more than the 356 +/- people that constitute the margin of Franken’s victory.

    I’m giving all those mavs they props.

  • Guest

    She is a lying ignoramus, but one the powers-that-be adore, since she both distracts from their thievery and criminality when she’s not abetting it with her ideological fantasies that translate into votes for their agenda.

    A stupid, dangerous woman. She should not be anywhere near the halls of Congress, except in her mind.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget about the indentured servants, either.

  • Anonymous

    “The Catholic clergy were legally bound to provide a welfare state to supplement that of the landed wealthy, and they did a good job by and large.”

    You can’t honestly believe that, can you?
    I mean, really – By what standards?
    Burning them at the stake, raping & torturing them, letting them live in unimaginable poverty & ignorance, crushing them under rocks, drilling holes in their head to let demons escape?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UXFAFJIXXSRMQRTGDUF7XZJDTI Traci

    I’m thinking she’s purposely leaving them out and is fully aware of it this time. To people like her, only whites count.

  • Anonymous

    CORRECTION: slaves were not considered 3/5ths of a citizen, they were legally considered 3/5ths of a human being. Their sub-human status was codified in order to justify their being slaves. Presumable it was too cruel a thing to do to fully human people.
    After the Civil War Lincoln’s vice president became president and allowed the Southern politicians to largely go unpunished. In turn they developed the “jim crow” legal system which maintained the 2nd class citizen status for African Americans which perpetuated much of the misery slaves had lived in, except after the war they were considered “free” in name only. The great fear of many Southern Whites, and whites in general, was that blacks would seek revenge on whites. In a general sense that did not happen. Yet that fear perpetuated one of the most sadistic policies against individuals anywhere. The jim crow laws prevented things like mixed race marriages, equal access to free education, discrimination in in every aspect of what is considered a normal life – home loans, bank loans, legal rights, etc, etc. Blacks were also lynched by the thousands to intimidate local populations. Needless to say, people today have to either accept the tragic discrimination against blacks and other minorities in this country or completely ignore it, as Bachman does. To put it in perspective, how would Americans feel about modern Germans that pretend that Jews and minorities and political opponents were never killed or enslaved in Nazi Germany?

  • Knot

    Edited because I failed to understand sarcasm.

  • Anonymous

    She only appeals to a bunch of ignorant drones that admire her and will believe whatever she says, and who probably don’t get beyond the Pavlov’s Dog knee jerk reaction to her demagogic slogans that seemingly puts them into a mesmerized trance.
    For the rest of us she’s a source of entertainment, an ongoing reality show that leaves us always wondering what blatant bullshit will she spout next.

  • Wombat Weatheraxe

    Why does she look like a deer with its lights caught in vehicle headlights? That said, it is still hard for African Americans to have equal chance to the positive aspects of American society. The same is true for any minority that the GOP and Tea Party want to keep from having equal rights, rights that the Constitution should guarantee to all American citizens. Bachmann is typical of this breed of politician who either lacks intelligence and or education about the history of this country and who chooses to focus on an idealized history that was, in fact, never actually true. I suppose she believes George Washington actually chopped down that cherry tree. It is fruitless to attempt to get these individuals to acknowledge any reality that conflicts with their deluded notions.

  • Anonymous

    my generalization offended you and i sincerely apologize, but you were not who i was referring to. please allow me to better clarify my comment. i was referring to those americans who don’t have a disease but who are instead overweight because of their “non-enforced” chosen sofa lifestyle combined with an excess of fast food. it’s my opinion that consistent exposure to garbage television along with a laziness of the mind instills ignorance to facts. american idol was at the top of my head, but it could just as well be substituted with fox “news”. bachmann and her kind deviously target and exploit these type of people with revisionist propaganda. the united states does have a sub-standard education system, but that is absolutely no excuse for not wanting or even trying to learn facts for yourself. america has the most obese number of people on the planet, and i would guess that a great majority of them do not suffer from a paralyzing disease which is the cause of it. although my apology probably will not placate your anger, please know there was no hatred or prejudice intended. i still stand by the context of my original comment, foul as it is.

  • https://plus.google.com/114893401725193022038 Chris

    This is why lead in paint is a bad idea.

  • Anonymous

    Quite obviously she feels Black people aren’t real people.
    So their – inconvenient – history doesn’t feature in herstory.

  • http://twitter.com/VaginaHedgeFund Lloyd Blankfein

    I know how she can apologize to african americans. Next time she’s on Fox News show up in black face in honor of MLK.

    I wouldn’t put this idea past her heh

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MGHZ3JJVGMWY4QZGA6R73KFI7E Specialist

    She cares only about the white, ignorant and white, rich classes who give her and the Republicans their votes.

    She and her ilk are willing to ruin the country as they concentrate power in a tiny elite. Poor, sick, struggling people will work for low wages and will take a long time to realize what is happening to them and who is responsible.

    And then comes the Egyptian moment.

  • Anonymous

    ‘Too much money in it’…That statement speaks volumns about the mentality of those in power. How would Mrs Clinton know this to be true, is my question? This statement shows that quiet as it has been kept those in the Government know this as fact. What would happen if people stopped using drugs, as we stop using things that are too expensive to buy? What would happen to their ‘thing’ that has kept people held hostage and filling their prisons? The supply would deminish if the stupid demand was not there.

  • 7rob7

    Hey, you know something people? I’m not black, but there’s a whole lots a times I wish I could say I’m not white.

  • 7rob7

    “… the robust participation of blacks themselves were how most of them were acquired.”

    Absolute horsedung. Spoken by someone so ignorant as to consider tobacco, rice and indigo to be “sugar,” and that the Christian merchants and shipbuilders in New England were “Portuguese” and/or “Jewish.”

    You’re as pathetically oblivious to history as Bachmann is, and I can’t think of a worse insult.

  • Anonymous

    Really Minnesota? You’re still keeping this freak in office…there has got to be something in the water in her district.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t think a couple of hundred years of slavery and another couple of hundred treating a population like dirt has a long term affect on a group of people?

    Regardless the participation of some Africans who sold their countrymen out…they were still brought here against their will to be slaves and MILLIONS died on the journey over…stacked on top of each other like cargo in the holds.

    You act as if whites in this country, INCLUDING many immigrants who came over well after slavery was abolished, were ‘just a little bit mean’ to African Americans after slavery was abolished.

    Got news for ya, there’s a very good chance that one of yours or the tens of millions of whites in this country had relatives that participated in the lynching of a black person or turned a blind eye to justice when they were lynched, or turned away away one for service at a place of business or sat on a jury that conviced one just because of the color of their skin or refused to hire one because of the color of their skin or refused to allow their children to go to school with black kids and so on and so on.

    I have no patience for YOUR BS. Whites not only put Africans in chains here but they oppressed, attacked and discriminated against them well into the 20th century honey. And believe you me, most whites in this country do have relatives who participated in those actions.

    One thing you DO owe them and EVERYONE in this country the TRUTH.

  • Anonymous

    So-which is it? Was Thomas Jefferson a Jewish sugar plantation owner or a Portuguese merchant? I recall reading somewhere that the cash crops in the south were tobacco and cotton-which state in old dixie was known for sugar? You and all the people you know are to be commeneded for not owning any slaves in this day and age-LOL

  • Anonymous

    You’re the one without a clue. You act as if after the slaves were freed that everyone treated them and their families as equal citizens and made up for the heinous crime immediately after; when in reality it took another 200 years after slavery was abolished for this nation to actually pass legislation that declared African Americans have equal rights (i.e. Civl Rights Act).

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    It’s not the in water It’s tha FUCKIN Air as in RADIO WAVES Polluted Poison Radio Frequency (RF)

    Over 99% of political talk in the US is right wing POISON = Watts x Hours !

    Do da math …. and that’s A Fucking MONOPOLY ~ Bring Back the Fairness Doctrine !

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    There is so much, So much TRUTH … that can be learned from BLACK HISTORY !

    Hmmm… no wondda it’s so down played ………………..

  • Anonymous

    this wench is a corporate shill, lobbying for Oil and Health insurance industry, nothing more. Her followers are totally blind.

  • Anonymous

    You might want to stop and consider that Black History Month deals with a period of American history. If you have no interest in the past history of your own country that’s fine-there is no blame game here.The post from this Bachmann clearly states she is also unaware of certain facts dealing with American history-what’s with all this “It wasn’t me” crap all about? WTF is wrong with YOU??

  • Anonymous

    Bachmann is screwed up.

    The grand ideas you hear from the founding fathers had a meaning that was different from what you think they said.

    When the elite of those days spoke of all those noble ideas they meant for the ideas to apply only to the aristocracy not to the lower classes. So when you hear words such as, “protecting individual liberty” it was meant for the aristocracy, the lower classess were to be trained servants.

    The lower classsess knew the talk of the aristocrat was all bullshit and it was for this reason the aristocrats had a problem. In order for there to be a true independence the aristocrats were aware the lower classess had to used to take the bullet. The problem then became, “How do you get the lower class to take the bullet?”

    The answer to the above question brought shock and horror to the aristocrats. The answer was to give the lower class the same rights, liberty and all those goodies the aristocrats reserved for themselves. “All men are created equal” gave the Aristocrats nightmares, but what to do?

    The other problem was language. The lower class never trusted the smooth talking aristocrats. Whenever the aristocrats have something to say you can be sure it was said in forked toungue.

    Thomas Paine was discovered. He can articulate and his language wasn’t forked tongue like the aristocrats. He wrote two powerful pamphlets that shot through the whole world. “Common Sense” Yes Glenn Beck ripped off that title and Beck is scum for trying to rewrite history just like Bachmann is scum trying to rewrite history. The othe pamphlet was even more powerful is “The Rights of Man” that one was more popular than “Common Sense”. The “Rights of Man” to the Conservatives is the same as Sunlight to the Vampire.

    The “Rights of Man” was a response to the Conservatives and you can see why Conservatives melt like the wicked witch when they get near that pamphlet. The Conservatives smeared Paine to death, The Conservatives back then were the first swift boat liars, the first Fox Fraud News, the first O’keefe and the first Breitbart. They hated Paine and would have gladly killed him if they could.

    Glenn Beck as we all know is a tory lying daily on behalf of the aristocrats.

    Conservatives today are just the continuation of the old tories of that long gone era of man called the fuedal system.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    Who’s shitin who … most Black Folk in Amerika are still treated like slaves !

  • Anonymous

    I agree that the ex-slavemaster frustrated whites living in America today don’t own slaves, never did and are sick of having slavery shoved down their throats… But does denying it happened or pretending it isn’t part of history really the way to go?

    Once upon a time some people in the world owned some other people as slaves.
    In decent civilized countries this has been outlawed.
    What’s the big deal?

    And if any black-skinned Americans are here whining “You did this to me!” then I’ll ask you:-
    “Do you want to come back to live in original Africa – now? Why not?”

    Perhaps, just perhaps, you should be grateful to your great great grandparents who underwent the hard part and now you can live in America, as a free American, today – instead of dying of starvation and disease and without even the wit or means to complain about it on some forgotten spot of the Dark Continent.

  • sobiggy

    Ralphie44, now you know the old saying. if we don’t know history, then we will repeat it. From the times of slavery, the whites benefited from slavery, by being educated in the best schools. were given inheritance from free slave workers. the best jobs. so when you say you did not own slaves remember that you are now where you are at because of it. have a nice day. Ralphie.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty face, ugly mind.

  • enorceht

    my head hurts after reading your comment … i was surprised i didn’t read that the “black-skinned americans” owes the u$ money because they didn’t have to pay for their passage to get here and all they did the whole trip was to sit around and not do anything

    i usually try to look at a “different point of view” with an open mind and try to look at it from the point of person that has that view … but i can’t even imagine where you are to have that view, i can only hope that it’s not held by the majority of people with brains

  • enorceht

    hey look here’s ralphie44 replying to ralphie44 … because it’s the only person that believes his crap

  • piltdown

    No, but it shows what you find acceptable and excusable.

    I’m with 7rob7.

  • piltdown

    Ralphie isn’t smart enough to understand that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KQGHJXLUOWMCPUMVDH3646KAWU Dan

    Some perspective please: Slaves were first introduced into British North America about 180 years before the USA was up and running as a country. Prior to the introduction of black slaves, the aristocracy used poor white Europeans as indentured servants.

    To think that the USA abolished slavery in only 60 years after getting up and running as a country is a commendable feat considering there were no cars, email, internet, telephone, national news, international news, and other types of rapid media to help persuade public opinion.

    Slavery was horrible, no doubt, but the US system of government, the constitution, and Bill of Rights planted the seed to abolish slavery in a relatively short period of time after becoming a country…but, it did abolish slavery.

    Remember, slavery was not brought to the USA as a government program but rather it was introduced by the tobacco corporations of the time (1618) to save money over the indentured servant program, which was costly to private businesses.

    Sound familiar? zip forward to the 21st century. Many American manufacturing jobs have disappeared to countries (like China) that have few if any labor laws and workers are treated like slaves…. and Michelle Bachman is leading the way. It’s not in her best interest to acknowledge slavery.

  • piltdown

    Go take your racist propaganda over to Stormfront where you worthless racists can pat yourself on the backs and congratulate each other on how much more superior you are to other people because your parents were the approved skin color.

  • Anonymous

    Hope their plan succeeds so the nation can be spared this dunderhead. Thanks for giving me hope.

  • piltdown

    And idiots like Ralphie44 will eat it up.

  • piltdown

    “Why does she look like a deer with its lights caught in vehicle headlights?”

    Botox and prescription meds.

  • piltdown

    Nobody really wants to hear it.

  • DesertSun59

    She will still be exploring a presidential campaign.

    Because the Teatards are equally as ignorant as she is.

  • Anonymous

    In her defense, I think she just doesn’t know about the whole slave thing.

  • Anonymous

    Slavery is part of our history. Ignoring it does not make it all go away. Slavery was not abolished while forming the new U.S. government because of concerns the constitution would not be ratified. Much of our nation was built on the backs of slaves, and later, by immigrants who were paid slave wages. This country has depended on cheap labour for economic growth from its inception. Anyone who understands American history knows this.

  • Anonymous

    You are the most ignorant and self absorbed person I have ever read here. For the sake of humanity, Do Not Breed!!!

  • Anonymous

    Bullshit.
    Slavery in the colonies generally had much assistance from the colonial authorities, who were often the same people who benefited from it.
    US independence was declared in 1776; if they’d wanted to, the founders could have abolished slavery right then. The last slaves were officially freed when Kentucky ratified the 13th amendment in Dec. 1865. That’s about 90 years. The Brits abolished slavery more than 30 years before the US.
    And de facto slavery continued long into the 20th century, with Jim Crow and a legal system that denied fundamental rights to African-Americans. But it was generous of you to admit that slavery was horrible.

  • 7rob7

    Yep: one that not only is diverse and ongoing, but includes the ability to quote Frank Zappa when called upon to do so.

    Eat your heart out.

  • Anonymous

    I can never decide which of the two teaparty darlings disgust me more Bachmann or Palin. It seems to me that they are in some kind of competition for the stupidest celebrity in America award. This statement not only shows that Bachmann is stupid and completely dissociated from her experiences to the point that she is completely unable to learn from her past mistakes but she has no sense of the plight of others except the wealthy members of the district that keeps electing her to Congress no matter how stupid she appears to the rest of us.

    Make no mistake about it, slavery and the conditions of the middle passage were a long running criminal enterprise that may have killed as many as 12-16 million people, and that includes slavery in North and South America and the islands of the West Indies, including Santo Domingo and Haiti. That Bachmann has no idea of this history or the people who survived this trauma or those who survived what Rayford W. Logan in his book, “The Betrayal of The Negro: From Rutherford B.Hayes to Woodrow Wilson (1954) called “the nadir” of the history of Black people in America, that period between the election of 1876, and 1920 when over 6,000 Black people were lynched all over the South sometimes as often as one a day, and that she serves in the House of Representatives is a stain on her state, her community and herself.

    Unfortunately, she is too stupid to even grasp how stupid she is and how stupid she looks to the rest of the country, but since she is on the public dole through her farm subsidies as well as the public payroll and has the gall from this position of double dipping to seven suggest that Vets give up their measly benefits, it is clear she has no soul and no conscience–this latest stunt shows she also has no brain.

    I hope she runs for president and her rich supporters dump a few million on her it would serve them all right as well.

  • Anonymous

    Now, now. The Bachmann family must have taken huge risks. Afterall it’s so risky to waddle your way up to the public trough.

    “Bachmann’s family farm received $251,973 in federal subsidies between 1995 and 2006. The farm had been managed by Bachmann’s recently deceased father-in-law and took in roughly $20,000 in 2006 and $28,000 in 2005, with the bulk of the subsidies going to dairy and corn. Both dairy and corn are heavily subsidized — or “socialized” — businesses in America (in 2005 alone, Washington spent $4.8 billion propping up corn prices) and are subject to strict government price controls.”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1209/Antisocialist_Bachmann_got_250k_in_federal_farm_subsidies.html

  • http://www.facebook.com/raymond.strand Raymond Strand

    That’s not an oversight she just doesn’t consider people not of European descent to be Americans.

  • http://twitter.com/janibowe Jani Bowe

    You can’t look at Africa today and assume this is what the continent would have looked like had the Portugeuse not started this whole nasty business.

    If you took the time to actually study history, instead of making erroneous conclusions, you would have learned how advanced some civilizations were over there, and come to the conclusion that maybe (just maybe!) they would have continued to advance and prosper had they not been disrupted and torn apart by the slave trade. And maybe Africa wouldn’t be the “Dark Continent” but one that housed some of the greatest nations on earth.

    In either case, no one – white, black, or any other color – is ever going to say: “Gee thanks for this whole slavery thing – it may have started out rough, but gosh, it sure has turned out fine and dandy!”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KQGHJXLUOWMCPUMVDH3646KAWU Dan

    Declaring independence and being “up and running” as a country as I stated are two entirely different entities. Bush declared “mission accomplished” 8 years ago but Iraq is not “up and running” as a country and won’t be for a long time.

    Had the founders abolished slavery in 1776 as you suggested the union would have died in its infancy as a result of the birth defect of slavery rather than thriving in spite of its birth defect of slavery — eventually overcoming slavery – regardless of the timeframe you quibble about.

    I said slavery was abolished. Discrimination still exists to this day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmorganhazard Bob Hazard

    To hell with you Ralphie. You and your whitetrash sister/wife.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmorganhazard Bob Hazard

    “Can we have a Congressional White Caucus?”
    It’s called the Republican Party.

    “Can we have a White History month? Its a much more eventful history, covers all of civilization as we know it. No one seems to know anything but the overview.”

    “Can we have White Entertainment Television?”

    Go for it.BET is a capitalist corporation run by a man who started his own business.You have a problem with that, you commie socialist?

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmorganhazard Bob Hazard

    We have 11 white history months, idiot. We also have WAACP: It’s called the KKK, you should know about it, given the eye holes in all your sheets. It’s people like you that are destroying our country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmorganhazard Bob Hazard

    Liar.

  • Anonymous

    You haven’t been here, in Africa, have you. Take a walk thru’ one day.
    Start at the Sahel and work your way thru’ Somalia to the DRC and Zimbabwe.
    Don’t miss the sewage system of Mali or the “oil fields” of the Niger delta.

    Meet the child soldiers, the men whose both hands have been chopped off, the women and little girls who survived being raped with AK47s and broken bottles, the multitudes starving and dying of malaria, TB and AIDS without a hospital, a drug or a doctor in sight – in THIS – the 21st Century.

    Meet and talk with the folk whose lives the descendants of those dragged off into slavery were spared. Hell. I know the grass is always greener on the other side – but some sides don’t even have grass.

    Their ANCESTORS were slaves.
    They are not.
    And they’re all better off than the vast majority of the people living in Africa just because they’re not living in Africa.

  • Anonymous

    The implication is, of course, that slaves were not people. She is apparently a strict constitutionalist in this regard. The US Constitution as drafted considered slaves property rather than people. BTW, women and children were treated as chattel, too, so Rep. Bachmann is on thin ice here.

  • Anonymous

    I find the most interesting thing about this article the line about, “her conspiritorial claims against Obama” . What exactly does that mean? … Oh I get it, cuzz it has the word ‘conspiracy’ in it, it MUST BE BAD.
    Who writes this stuff, that Cass Sustein?

  • Anonymous

    What does THAT have to do with the discussion at hand? Keep it to yourself.

  • Anonymous

    And if wishes were horses beggars would ride.

    I’m African. I was born in Africa. I live in Africa. I will die in Africa.
    And I assure you that slavery thing turned out really fine and dandy for a whole bunch of those descendants.

  • Anonymous

    Man, you are one PIG HEADED bastard, aren’t you? What a selfish, arrogant attitude. Nothing much else to say. Your selfishness and stupidity outweigh anything I could say in response. I really can’t stand idiots who insist that staying as stupid and uninformed as possible is a positive thing. So I guess that means I can’t stand YOU. Have a nice day, bigot.

  • Anonymous

    She also has some interesting opinions on the risk-takers who come to the US today, the undocumented workers desparate enough to leave the only home they’ve ever known to make a new life.

  • Anonymous

    Ralphie isn’t smart enough to understand ANYTHING. And he’s not interested in learning anything, either. So he’s to a double shot against him. Oh, and he’s arrogant as hell, too. I suspect he’s about 13, or at least his maturity level is. His intellectual level is FAR below that.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    Good demonstration of how a tea-voter’s mind works. The historic revisionism is expected, along with the blame the victim tack. I’d give the effort a b plus.

  • Anonymous

    Either Ms. Bachmann is a frustrated imbecile or she feels the need to confirm past statements. A typical example of her previous statements.

    Quote from Google: “I am convinced in my heart and in my mind that if the United States fails to stand with Israel, that is the end of the United States . . . We have to show that we are inextricably entwined, that as a nation we have been blessed because of our relationship with Israel, and if we reject Israel, then there is a curse that comes into play.”

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “No, I act as if I didnt do it, no one I know or am related to did it, and my race shouldnt be held responsible.”

    So we should hold the Chinese responsible? Or the Dutch? The Italians? Who, if not the folks who actually enslaved blacks?

    Silly, on a stick

  • Anonymous

    I’m saying… “Some are lucky, some are not but be thankful for what you’ve got.”
    Regardless of what your ancestors went through – you get get to live with the present day result of it. What you make of your present day is up to you and up to fate.

    Like American slavery –
    If you’re lucky, your name’s Will Smith and you made a great movie called Independence Day. If you’re unlucky you live as an outcast in a mud hut after being raped by an army of men and their AK’s.

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    And thus is one of the many weakness of Tea Party philosophy (if it can be called such) revealed: It is based upon an America that only exists in their own minds, not upon the lives of the people that actually live here.

    And this differs from a variety of mentally disabling illnesses how?

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “This is ameriKa, so I post in short sentences.”

    Your mom should have done a better homeschool job. There are observable gaps in your understanding of issues.

  • http://twitter.com/Republic4all RepublicForAll

    what most ppl failf to understand bachman and palin are ME TOO tea partiers. I ‘left” the republican party to be a “tea partier” in hopes of returning the republican party after it has returned to its root.

    To me the tea party is closer to Dr Ron Paul. It is about ALL are equal and ALL are equally free. I would prefer to live in a cardboard box and be really free rather than live believing I am free while bankers are being bailed out with funny money printed on paper costing a few pennies and then LOANED to us at face value.

    You want to get a better understanding of what a tea parties really is I suggest losthorizons.com , givemeliberty.org, ronpaul.com and the greatest source.. The US Constitution.

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    Generally ‘conspiracies’ aren’t good. This is because they tend to be either plots against a particular person or theories about how a particular situation came to be.

    For example: If you’re ‘plotting’ against someone, it’s generally not a good thing you’re doing in reference to that person.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “It wasn’t me or anyone I know.”

    Translation: his family was in it up to their rednecks.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “Gee, simply put, will it be OK for me to lok out for MY OWN interests without having to listen to your whining ass?”

    The lament of the privileged. This guy thinks he’s a self-made man, regardless of how much government assistance he received.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “And they’re all better off than the vast majority of the people living in Africa just because they’re not living in Africa. ”

    And the Native Americans shouldn’t get angry or sad remembering the deprivations and White savagery on the Trail of Tears, because look at all the Casinos they now own!

    Sad little revisionist.

  • http://twitter.com/janibowe Jani Bowe

    And for the rest of them? It hasn’t turned out very well for them at all. In fact, here in America, most of them are stuck in impossible situations because the myth that is “freedom” in America pretty much only exists if you’re rich, and for the most part even today, white. I doubt that dying of starvation and disease in a ghetto over here instead of over there is worth one second of feeling “grateful.”

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “Prior to the introduction of black slaves, the aristocracy used poor white Europeans as indentured servants.”

    Were those indentured servants’ families sold, and broken up? Could they be whipped to death, with no legal ramifications?

    False comparison.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “Had the founders abolished slavery in 1776 as you suggested the union would have died in its infancy as a result of the birth defect of slavery rather than thriving in spite of its birth defect of slavery — eventually overcoming slavery – regardless of the timeframe you quibble about.”

    You can’t prove this. It’s your opinion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJJ4KEVT2Z5RDHTIRGJOUWL2EA Paul M

    This “rant” of yours is shared by many obviously like yourself. And I know most “so-called” whites would rather not talk about this “hideous” american experience. You say…”I hate Black history month”..the “Cop-out” which means really…..Why do I have to face that reality again, this month…every year, it only makes be have to “THINK” of my countries atrocities toward these people and knowing that it STILL continues and I have not found a way to FACE what was done to these people. You say, “I didn´t own any slaves”, no you probably did not, but as it is said, “YOU” have benefited from the experience (though the government rarely adheres to any attritional sentiments), set in motion by the gains of slave labor. Did you know that most all black men during “Reconstruction” were TRADESMEN! They were professional at their craft of building and construction, Who do you think “Built” most of Washington D.C. Oh yes, “white privilege” is the revered “just right” for having been on the side of the prospering white ruling majority. Umm. You would be better off saying little or nothing if it is not in an empathetic demeanor, the negative is present always, why add YOURS to it?. Did you also know that 50 to 100 million of the “Dark Continent” residents perished during the whole experience!? Now if that ain´t a “human Holocaust”, then you tell me differently. Listen, the reason why this is such a “sore subject”, is really understandable and I understand your point of view, if whites continue to evade the subject if will never go away. Getting defensive does not solve anything either. Government must teach the people first…(doubt if THAT will every happen), then the people must FACE their preconceive, pre-conditioning and their arrogant (illusion)superiority and understand that the black holocaust did happen and in many ways continues to be a History pill very difficult to swallow. Peace.

  • Anonymous

    Blast!
    Blast damn and hell!
    I’m begging for good argument and the best you can do is Red Indians, casinos and ‘Sad little revisionist?’

    BTW
    I’m irritated not sad, I am little and I nain’t revsionin’ naynything.

  • Anonymous

    They get free food?

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “Oh I get it, cuzz it has the word ‘conspiracy’ in it, it MUST BE BAD.
    Who writes this stuff, that Cass Sustein? ”

    She’s always talking about him being a secret muslim. That means he’s in some conspiracy that involves muslims.

    Thinking ain’t your strong suit.

  • Anonymous

    Even if that were true, what would that have to do with those of us who are alive today and happen to disagree with the world being a risk board.

  • http://twitter.com/Republic4all RepublicForAll

    Raymond, I care a lot that Americans understand the purpose of the tea party. The constitution was NOT followed even when it was written. If it were followed, the both of us would be really free.. free from bernanke funny money.. no income taxes and no illegal wars. We would be able to live out of a plot of land tax free if chose to do so. Now we can’t.. we can go to jail for using gold or silver as currency or even for collecting rain water on our property.

    People are bias racists and bigots that is true.. the Constitution is color blind. It simply lacks enough support from it citizens. Never forget.. you rights as a human being cannot defend itself.. ONLY YOU can and have the duty to defend your rights.

    It’s not about who considers who an american.. its about what the law says who is an American. I invite you to hear Dr Ron Paul of ronpaul.com and even ae911truth.org .. if you find that this information is beneficial to your way of thinking.. share the knowledge.

    peace.

  • Anonymous

    Umm, Dr. Ron Paul doesn’t believe all of us are equally free. Stop perpetuating the world according to Ron Paul at RawStory. We don’t agree with you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmorganhazard Bob Hazard

    You aint African. You aint Black. You are “sad” as in “pathetic”

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t that sort of like me saying that had the South won the Civil War we would still have slavery (at least in certain states), yes?

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I applaud you for at least honestly standing up for some of the most vile, ignorant tripe I’ve heard in a long, long time. Oh, I also love the infamous and ubiquitous republican trick of a false choice: it’s not an all or nothing thing. Don’t pretend that either one has to suck up your nonsense about not reliving the past or they have to go back to Africa, as if the Africa they were taken from even exists today (thanks Jani for making me add what I originally left out). What if I said how about we tread the middle ground, like America admitting its crimes and then repenting for them by ceasing to continue to do the same stuff today.

  • Anonymous

    I guess if you’re starving in America or starving in Somalia – you’re still starving.
    One advantage to starving in America — they don’t cut your hand off if they catch you stealing a loaf of bread.

  • Anonymous

    :-)
    I am. I am and FU2.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know if it’s true, but did you see the reports that Egyptians were proclaiming, “Give me liberty or give me death” in Tahrir Square either yesterday or the day before. I just hope that made Glenn Beck’s, Rush Limpbag’s or Grifty McQuitter’s heads explode. I guess George Bush’s head exploding would also be nice, especially when people are telling him how he’s responsible for liberty spreading into Tunisia and Egypt.

  • Anonymous

    Then why would not the author say that? Which is my point, there is/has been a more concentrated effort (which was the stated goal of that Sustein guy especially in blogs) to discredit any conspriracies (well other than those governmently sanctioned). Since he said that I have noticed the term always used in a marginalizaing or even patronizing sense here at Raw. It just kind of makes me wonder.
    Also, ‘kind of curious; why, because I perhaps have a differing opinion from you, does that make me weak thinker? I mean that maybe true, but I think too often if someone is in slight disagreement with someone else, people feel it obligatory to close with some sort of reproach. That too engages my rather, I guess, inconsequential cognitive capacity.

  • Anonymous

    “You are referring to 18th century capitalism, not feudalism, a form of socialism that generally worked better for the disadvantaged than what we have now… under feudalism, the wealthy were legally obligated to care for the people who lived and worked on their land.”

    Uh-huh. Tell that to all the Irish immigrants who had to flee to this country because their landlords graciously allowed them to starve to death in their own country.

  • Anonymous

    Somehow I bet Ralphie is a teabagger or Ron Paul fan and he thinks the problem in America is that everyone should just be left alone and on their own, but they don’t realize that some in America have benefited from the past and are sitting pretty right now because of it–who is the person who said every fortune is the result of a past crime?–while the rest of us don’t have anything because everything was already acquired either years ago, decades ago or centuries ago and even when they die, they still don’t let go. To the contrary, these amassed fortunes allow their descendants to live quite nicely.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry perhaps I did not explain myself fully, what I was saying was not about the content of a conspiracy but about; that there has been an effort here at RAW to equate conspriacy with something that is, prima facie, ridiculous. Please also see my respone above, I do not want to be redundant here. Ok thanks, I’m out.

  • Anonymous

    Wow
    Well at least one person saw it for a false choice and called it.
    [I blame Oprah... I first heard that point of view from her. :-)]
    But did you have to spoil a good slating with that patronising “ceasing to continue…” stuff? Or… do you still practise slavery in America?

  • Anonymous

    I’m convinced that ralphie is paid by either the Koch brothers, Bachman or some republican/teabag organization. Seriously, only someone on the job would come here simply to harass and stir the pot. There was no way this guy was simply intellectually curious or interested in, ahem, a debate on the facts. Yet, I would have to guess that Ralphie doesn’t much believe in facts or that humans can possibly know anything for certain. I’ve met other teabagger types who truly refuse to listen to facts and who refuse to except anything that they have not personally experienced, which is odd given that I bet a lot of them would call themselves Christian.

  • Anonymous

    Take for example, I had a teabagger tell me that he did not have to pay into Social Security. He said that he worked for himself so as long as he invested in some retirement plan he did not have to pay into Social Security. I asked him for a source, and of course he didn’t have one. I suggested that I found it hard to believe that the US government would let people opt out of Social Security and I tried to find any link (credible or not) that corroborated the claim that Social Security for sole proprietors was optional. I found nothing and I remain skeptical of such an allegation, but I seriously think that’s what we are dealing with when we speak about 50% of Americans. They have been completely brainwashed to not question certain beliefs while taking others as the gospel regardless of the veracity (an homage to My Cousin Vinny) of such beliefs

  • MNUSA

    Michelle Bachmann has done quite well off the welfare state, unlike like most Americans who’ve never received a penny from a government salary, welfare, unemployment or farm subsidies. By the way, truth is not relevant to her; she says things for effect.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KQGHJXLUOWMCPUMVDH3646KAWU Dan

    Regardless of who won the civil war, the north or south, the end result would have been the United States of America. The south either had to conquer the north or the north had to conquer the south. There would be no in-between, no cease fire, no truce, no settlement for succession by the north – only surrender. Jefferson Davis and the government of the Confederate States of America used the exact same constitution as the founders of the 13 original colonies.

    Imagine if you will, 600,000 people bludgeoning each other to death for the same end result – the United States of America, under the exact same constitution, regardless of who won.

  • MNUSA

    Rep. Ron Paul has some good ideas. But he also has some totally crazy ideas. There’s that wild-eyed streak of insanity that periodically comes out. We have to think critically about all politicians and not just swallow what any of them say hook, line and sinker.

  • Anonymous

    While it is a possibility that the slaves brought to America saw it as an opportunity to improve their lives and fortunes, I do wonder: why the chains?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    If the citizenry had listened to the anti-Federalists during that time, slavery would have been outlawed as a condition to ratify the Constitution but the Federalists (Big Government lovers) insisted they accept South Carolina and Georgia’s slavery…thus today we have a Big, Big Government and had to fight a war to end slavery. It would have been much better to listen to the anti-Federalist arguments and IMMEDIATELY ban slavery. Go pick up a copy of the anti-Federalist papers and read their views.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmorganhazard Bob Hazard

    For someone “begging” for an argument, you really don’t have much to say…

  • Anonymous

    Let me just say (as an aside) that there are a number of diabetics, especially type 1, who are at times forced to eat to maintain a balance with their insulin. Having worked with those who have to inject multiple times daily and try to keep the balance between insulin and food vs exercise, I can tell you it is an hour by hour struggle.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, just look at her crazy lamps! you know there ain’t nothing going on back there except spirochetes chewing through circuits & shorted out wiring. surprised smoke don’t come out her ears

  • Anonymous

    She creates her own reality….
    in another words she’s bats*** crazy, a loon, a nutcase.
    What does that say about the U.S. when we elect crazies to Congress?
    How does that make the rest of the world view us?
    Can’t be good.

  • Anonymous

    Ms batshit crazy is just another racist who thinks that by downplaying or ignoring the truth of slavery is part of her institutional bigotry in the republican kkk party. I bet she is the type who crosses the street whenever she sees a black person coming in the opposite direction. She is a member of the teakkkparty who became unhinged when a black man was elected president. She never complained when bush ran up the deficit. Ms. batshit crazy would be better served putting that white hood better under her jacket

  • Anonymous

    These fu****s are crazy.
    They only accept people that look them and think like them.
    They are completely nuts.

  • Anonymous

    Michele Bachmann’s district — Minnesota’s 6th Congressional District — is only 1% black and there are very, very few blacks in the Republican Party. She’s playing to racist Tea Party idiots who are devout Beckerheads.

    We need to do everything we can to promote Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin so that they can split the Republican Party between the crazy and the not-quite crazy wings. My ideal ticket would be Newt Gingrich with Bachmann or Palin as his running mate. It won’t happen but it would be great because the laughs would never stop.

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    The Constitution is ‘colorblind?’ Really? Have you read it? If you have, you would know how nonsensical that statement is.

  • Anonymous

    While it is possible that those brought over from Africa (and elsewhere) did so looking for an opportunity for themselves and their families, but………..why the chains?

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    You’re not making any sense. Representative Bachmann is a power-hungry loon, and that’s based upon her actions and (from my perspective) support for the Tea Parties, which are little more than tools for rich, greedy men like the Koch brothers.

    What conspiracies have to do with anything, only you would know.

    Btw, if you want people to understand what you write, try to be clear.

  • Anonymous

    “You’re pathetic” was argument?
    Then you’re right – I don’t have much to say.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZURVEQCQ2Y3Z4FXOKVGZXEBUUU Clarence Laliberte

    The woman’s worst enemy is herself. The really funny thing is that this is the same person who rants and raves about illegal aliens. How many of these people she is praising now would have been deterred by a law that said they could not go where they needed?

  • Anonymous

    Dan, what was your point because I certainly missed it, and by the way, I for one do not agree that Lincoln was a great president and I say he should have let the south go. The US of A would be a much better place today had the South been allowed to leave the union. The almighty Union is not special. To the contrary, the Union is so despicable that it needs to be destroyed through peaceful revolution. Unfortunately for too many Americans they would rather live in bondage than confess they emulate the Egyptians. That is if they’ve even heard that Egypt is in the midst of a revolution with no help from the US of A.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, America still practices slavery. Haven’t you been watching the news that most Americans have gotten poorer the past 30 years while the vaunted few have gotten ever more rich, which is funny because the majority of Americans are no freer than the majority of Egyptians were under Mubarak.

  • Anonymous

    Bachmann has no idea what reality is. She is a severe embarrassment to Minnesotans, but unfortunately is a reflection of her constituents. Insane! The people who voted for her deserve what they get, but why should the rest of us have to suffer for their mistakes? It doesn’t seem that the gop will restrain her as she is a good money maker. I just hope the gop can control her and not give her much authority or freedom to make real decisions. They seem to be having a few issues with controlling the tea partiers in general. I don’t believe boner is up to the task.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dorothy-Banks/100001470098554 Dorothy Banks

    Michele Bachmann continues to insist on writing the history of African Americans in her own image. She does not believe that they came to the Americas on slave ships, cramped like sardines in the bowels of the ships. They loved the “risk” of being enslaved by their “equals”, and getting killed if they attempted to run away.

    Why they even loved the “risk” of seeing and hearing their daughters and mothers getting raped by white masters who had no regard for them as humans. Families loved the “risk” getting torn from each other and sold like cattle on an auction block. They loved the “risk” of death if they disobeyed their white masters, mistresses, including their children. Anyone white was a master whether they owned the “risk” taking slave or not.

    When Martin Luther King, Jr. led civil rights marches and demonstrations beginning in the 1950s, he was merely leading a walking marathon to keep “risk’ taking African Americans in good health. They were getting too fat living the good life. Once in a while African Americans liked pretending they didn’t have equal footing as white Americans. The “risk” pretending kept them grounded. All of those Jim Crow laws and lynchings carried out in a carnival atmosphere are historical exaggerations.

    If Bachmann knows nothing else, she knows history! And according to her, if slaves didn’t succeed it’s their fault for not taking advantage of the opportunities awaiting them in their new homeland. Apparently they were too lazy, or too scared to take a “risk.”

  • Anonymous

    **You’re kidding, right? Do you think either of these twats would take the number 2 spot? Nuh uh!

  • RottenJohnny

    It was a welfare state . . . for all the slave owners.

  • Anonymous

    Good show Minnesota! I will say it again, those of you that voted for her should be utterly ashamed of yourselves. Sometimes we make bad choices, but this choice has to be one of the worst. Who didn’t do their homework up there? I think a recall vote is necessary. Get with it! We are all sick of her continuous crap!

  • Anonymous

    Would that be the Constitution that declared blacks to be 3/5th’s of a person?

    The Constitution isn’t a holy book given from god, it’s a flawed and imperfect document written by men and revised when it no longer suited it’s purpose.

    You’re rather be “free” and living in a cardboard box? The Republicans and Randians would be perfectly happy to accommodate you.

    In fact, you’re *exactly* the sort of sheep they’re looking for.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmorganhazard Bob Hazard

    Then make your case. What time is it?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KQGHJXLUOWMCPUMVDH3646KAWU Dan

    My original point Jim was in regard to Michele Bachman’s ignorance or refusal to acknowledge slavery for what it is. The analogy was the corporate greed of the 1600′s is still alive and well today. Millions of American jobs have been exported overseas to countries with few or no labor laws — essentially slave labor. While, at the same time the giant corporations have been lining their pockets with gold — on the backs of the underpaid slave laborers. In the meantime the US economy is collapsing. Then, people like Michelle Bachman support these companies.

    Egypt? I think it’s way too early to be declaring a victory for democracy. Personally, I thinks it’s going to unravel – on a large scale – throughout the middle east. The potential to end up with an authoritative end repressive theocracy like Iran, throughout the entire middle-east, possibly aligned with Iran and nuclear armed is very possible and very frightening.

  • Anonymous

    You can’t look at Africa today and assume this is what the continent would have looked like had the Portuguese not started this whole nasty business.

    No continent or country would be what it is today if we were to apply that ubiquitous “IF.”

    The Portuguese started the white man’s or European slave trade in Africa … but the Arabs were trading and enslaving Africa/ns while the white man was still running around in blue paint. It was the time of great ancient African civilizations, from Tunis to Egypt to the Sudan, Ethiopia, The Horn, Zimbabwe … But they were exactly that:- Ancient. They were long gone by the time the white man arrived on the scene.

    Climate change, increasing desertification, resources drying up and changing trade routes and times destroyed the great African civilizations not the coming of the white man. Had they still been in place the continent might not have been quite so ripe for European/American plucking…

    For a good understanding of the history of “black” Africa – you could try reading Mutwa’s book, “Indaba, My Children.” Well written, fascinating and also easy to read.

  • http://twitter.com/LoryAndAnEaglet julia hart

    argggg…. she drives me nuts. did she just skip history class altogether??? even if she did just by living you would have to attain some sort of history knowledge unless you live in your own world. i guess that sums it up. she creates her own reality.

  • Anonymous

    What time is it?
    It’s a few minutes after 9 at night on the 12th February in the year of the hare…. Why?

    My case is a question.
    Is she a racist, an optimist or an idiot? And also this:-
    I tire of people claiming credit for their ancestors’ enslavement. “It’s because some white man sold great great granddaddy Buck and great great grandmommy Pearl as slaves that I’m a loser today. It’s not my fault. It’s all the white man’s fault” is a sad and useless song. It’s not a good reason for not bothering to work or learn, and it’s not a substitute for plain bad luck. Or stupidity.

  • Anonymous

    No, we all don’t have the same story or the same journey or whatever your confused little head tells you.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.curtterry.com/politics/fantastic_fourfathers.jpg

    Our Founding Fantastic FourFathers (Reagan, Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson) ended slavery, defeated Hitler, and crushed communism with their secret weapon… Sputnik… now they must face the most evil villain ever…. the Communist-Muslim Obama-Nation and his super-weapon Obama-care!

  • Anonymous

    What’s scarier? Willful ignorance or the other kind? I guess it doesn’t really matter, Bachman appears to have them both covered.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KSIB2PGTAXFCPCMQ74NRZ4UUJM Beerman

    Do they build them any dumber? oh ya “I can see Russia from my house!”

  • Anonymous

    all came of their own free will? most of us know the africans were brought her as slaves, there were also indentured servants that were no better than slaves, or perhaps they were the early american version of welfare recipients. of course they were forced to work but hay the got a free ride over to live in a free country. well it really wasn’t free at that point. bachman loves the constitution and thinks the founding fathers were faultless. most owned slaves and enjoyed their dalliances with their property. but my favorite is that the founding fathers did not give women the vote. is this nitwit and the rest of the tea bag women aware of that? if they are true constitutionalists perhaps we should repeal that amendment along with the ones they don’t like. (please lefty ladies i don’t mean you)

  • Anonymous

    In all fairness to one of Ralphie’s points; I have noticed a dichotomy in American sociology. Quite frequently one is lauded for speaking out for a minority but when one puts the white race forward in anything they are branded a “racist”. It’s an unfortunate rush to judgment in an emotionally laden subject, for sure. But at what point does one stop condemning one race or another and just learn from the historical facts that grave mistakes were made; and strive to not fall into whatever economic traps made slavery acceptable

  • http://twitter.com/honorablelordk Karim Walker

    I actually feel sorry for Bachmann. People who dwell and thrive on their own ignorance do not realize how pathetic they are (case in point, Glenn Beck and Mike Huckabee).

  • Anonymous

    The “not-quite crazy wings” of the republican party is a null set.

  • RottenJohnny

    My guess is if you asked her about the Holocaust, she’d reply, “Is it on HBO?”

  • Anonymous

    Actually it’s not funny.
    And I get over the laughing when I remember that human trafficking is set to overtake drug trafficking as the largest criminal industry.

  • dk504

    Don’t think for one second they won’t jump at feudalism. They just can’t move THAT quickly, they are trying to completely break the middle and lower classes before they start down that path, but believe me, it will happen.

  • Anonymous

    I like the pic.
    Is it a bengal?

  • dk504

    Michelle Bachmann, besides being one of the most willfully ignorant women in the world, she and the Teabaggers are a big part of the reason America have become a laughing stock around the world. Our foreign policy is an embarrassment and our elected officials are for the most part completely corrupt and Corporate whores, we have become a sad shadow of what and who we were.
    I do hope the Naacp is going to kick her ass over this.

  • http://twitter.com/janibowe Jani Bowe

    Yeah, he’s one of millions. The others aren’t so lucky.

  • http://twitter.com/janibowe Jani Bowe

    Depends on who catches you. It’s still utter BS to think that African-Americans are better off today because of what happened.

  • http://twitter.com/janibowe Jani Bowe

    There’s a world of difference between the slavery the Portuguese started – also known as Chattel slavery – and the type of slavery the Arabs were inflicting. That’s why this ended up being so devastating. And while climate change, I’m sure had an impact, no one educated would actually infer that slavery wasn’t a major impact in the devastation of Africa. Again, a lesson is history is due here.

  • http://twitter.com/janibowe Jani Bowe

    What, there’s no human trafficking here? You’re sorely mistaken.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    OK. The Africa you now reference has been the target of centuries of European colonialism, which has resulted in the corrupt situation we see today. Do you deny that history? You sure didn’t mention it, in your strawman argument.

  • Anonymous

    Bachmann is nothing more than a racist,opportunistic,mentally ill political whore.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “If you’re unlucky you live as an outcast in a mud hut after being raped by an army of men and their AK’s. ”

    Or you drown, because you lived in a part of New Orleans that was too poor to be able to evacuate before the storm hit. There is still slavery in the US, for those unafraid to look. Like the sweatshops in Los Angeles, where asian women were kept prisoner behind barbed wire fences, forced to work 16 hour days to pay for their passage to the US.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “they don’t cut your hand off if they catch you stealing a loaf of bread.”

    You can get a life sentence for doing that in a three strikes state. At least they won’t have to worry about bread, eh?

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/ixscEZV9nIkyzW2F6Zz3uNY4qAAdcj8-#92739 heubler

    “her conspiritorial claims against Obama” . What exactly does that mean?

    ———————————————————————-

    Unless you’ve been living without any media access, it would be hard to believe you haven’t heard her claims, so to profess ignorance of already documented conspiratorial claims she has made against Obama, means you’re either ignorant or incapable of processing those already documented claims. I’ll give you the benefit of choosing which best describes your situation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/raymond.strand Raymond Strand

    Dr. Paul can talk to me when he adequately takes responsibility for the Racist news letters and his other ties to Neo-Confederates and other separatists. A Son who thinks the Civil Rights act was a bad thing. Sorry but Michelle Bachmann has less to answer for on race than Paul.

    The Constitution was designed to empower the land owning White Male elites of Early Colonial America. The Founders had no intent to empower the poor, the non-white, or women. The idea that this country was founded on maximum freedom for the individual is a joke. We’re more free today than the founders ever intended. Free because generations of people not enfranchised by the Founders fought to make this country as free as it is. While we’re not exactly in a state of Utopia we’re getting there because the people keep fighting.

    You can pretend this country has gotten worse but if you look at the long arc of history in this country we’re on our way. The financial industry is screwed up yes, but there was a time when people were forced to work on another man’s farm or go to jail to die.

    The key is people understand where our power is and that’s working for our collective well being. When you have the bottom 99% competing amongst each other for less than half the pie we’re losing before we start.

  • Jaimie11

    And I thought Minnesota was a liberal state. Oh her district excludes almost all of the Twin Cities.

    http://bachmann.house.gov/District/06districtmap.htm

  • Anonymous

    Tea Baggers? You get a hard on every time you say that?

    Democrats, Republicans, The Tea Party, etc. is all part of divide and conquer. They are all fucking us regardless of their political affiliation.

    But you keep talking shit about one party versus another and I am sure the world will change into a peaceful place overnight and all our problems will be solved.

    Wake up, they are all fucking us.

  • Jaimie11

    And Einstein’s take –

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/raymond.strand Raymond Strand

    History cries tears of blood at this comment. The A-historical bull crap being pushed is just so sad. I mean to think anyone really thinks like that is mind boggling.

    There is a reason the Feudal era is referred to as the Dark Ages. What it sounds like is you’re wanting someone to take care of you. But as a disabled American living in the Feudal ages you’re much more likely to have been left to die at birth or killed for not being Catholic enough.

    There is a reason for the Protestant Reformation. It’s because the Catholic Church was Anti-Science and Anti-Reason. The Church let millions die to the bubonic plague by refusing to introduce the life saving techniques developed in Constantinople and the Middle East. The Catholic Church was corrupt to it’s very core. The reformation saved lives and advanced civilization.

  • Jaimie11

    In the words of Leonard Cohen:

    “And everybody knows that you live forever
    Ah when you’ve done a line or two
    Everybody knows the deal is rotten
    Old Black Joe’s still pickin’ cotton
    For your ribbons and bows
    And everybody knows”

  • Ma’at

    Stupid bigoted bitch. The only people worse? The fucking morons that elected her.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/Hostile177 hostile177

    “Every third person is a moron”
    -Judge Judy

  • Anonymous

    Ignorant racist bytch!!

  • Guest

    I just love Michelle Bachman! She is my favorite circus clown.

  • Anonymous

    You are nothing but a ranting idiot-peddle your slime somewhere else.You stupid bastard-the original past was about a certain idiot politician forgetting a part of American history. She is a Rhodes Scholar compared to the likes of you.

  • Anonymous

    Edited because of comment mistake.

  • Anonymous

    We’re seeing the effect of drugs and how they effect the brain. Bachmann first came to office and idiot and liar and continues today. On her Federal Funded baby foster farm where she profits more then one million dollars while holding up a Christian bander. Using kids for profit is what Bachmann calls Republican Christian Values. Let’s hope no one every learns that Bachmann might have that one drop rule as she might learn something. Many Republicans are changing history. Barbour who was born/raised and lived during the Civil Rights says he never saw it and didn’t know the Mayor of his town was a KKK leaders, who he’s known all his life. Ron/Rand Paul just want slavery back. Now don’t worry some give lip service as we learned former Congressman Chris Lee was trying to tap a pretty black lady on Craig’s list and Weeper Speaker Boehner get’s the ladies by crying and looking black. Yes these people are one way for their supporters but low down dirty in real life. The RNC spent most of the donations raised on child support payments for memers and you can bet a lot of racially mixed babies were born. Rememer Storm Thurmond lead the way for the Confederate movement but secretly love/supported his black daughter all his life.

  • Anonymous

    Republicans act like the Bush years never happened. How do you expect them to remember anything longer than a month ago.

  • Anonymous

    So her point is that centuries ago we didn’t have a modern society with safety nets for the needy, so why should we have one now? Let’s just forget about all the improvements over our history and go back to the seventeenth century. Fine, at least Bachmann wouldn’t be a Congresswoman nor could she even vote. So there would be some positives.

  • Anonymous

    Look fuck this Bachmann twat we all already know what she is going to say before they report it.
    I think what I’m saying is perfectly clear … that there is an agenda at work here, to frame certain things (such as ‘conspiracy theories’) wholesale in ways that make them unacceptable a prioi to the public at large. To me that is the real story here not some wacked out zoloft laden bitch who, as my uncle used to say, doesn’t know her ass from a cheerio.
    Look forget I brought it up.

  • Anonymous

    Bat Boy’s mother. She cannot be real.

  • http://www.balmorheaprogressive.blogspot.com/ BaileyWuXiang

    Rod Sterling could look into those eyes and come away with more spooky stories for his Twilight Zone series than Disney has Loony Tunes. If nothing else, the woman is entertaining.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe she’s a badly programmed Stepford wive? i Wonder what meds she takes. The uppers overpower the downers obviously.

  • Anonymous

    Not just thin ice–banished to the kitchen!

  • Anonymous

    I’m denying Africa’s colonial history because I didn’t mention it?!?
    Well. Let’s see. The subject’s an American politician who misuses American history to suit her own political agenda and I didn’t mention that a number of countries on another continent once colonized Africa.

    Hell. I missed that connection. Thanx for setting me straight.

    Seriously?
    Africa was colonised. Note the tense. Was.
    Africa’s problems today are not a direct result of historical white man colonial occupation.
    (That was the civil wars and the genocides.)

    They are a direct result of current “white man/ex-colonial” govts and intelligence organisations propping up evil dictators and regimes with guns and money for their own national, security, economic, strategic, whatever, interests.

    They are a direct result of “white man/ex-colonial” banks that allow people like Amin, Taylor, Mugabe, Mubarak etc, to offload their nations’ wealth – that should be used to build and better their countries – into private bank accounts.

    They are the direct result of donations to salve conscience that provide bags of grain to feed the poor to keep them poor.

    Africa might take, but she doesn’t need, your bags of food; she’d be better served by fishing rods.
    But Africans are ‘ordinary people’ and we won’t make ourselves a fishing rod until you stop pretending it’s all the fault of the common white man walking the streets of his own white country and you stop giving us handouts.

    Once Africa was great – perhaps she’ll be great again.
    But not before all the continent realizes “If you want it done right then do it yourself” and “Yes, you can do it!”

    You want to help? Really?
    Then stop giving Africans just their next meal.
    Give aid that is substance, not mere sustenance.

    Stop propping up bad men in bad regimes.
    Find and freeze ALL their foreign bank accounts.
    Stop giving them money and guns, helicopters, armoured cars and (expired) teargas.
    Stop ‘buying’ African diamonds, emeralds, platinum, uranium and gold. They’re nice, they’re pretty, they’re cheap and they’re swimming in blood.
    Stop dumping your polluting garbage in and off Africa.
    Don’t give bags of maize to eat, give bags of seed to grow. If we only eat today instead of eat today and plant for tomorrow we’ll die tomorrow. But we would learn more from harsh reality than pernicious false hope.

    And if you think I’m harsh, cruel, unthinking, immoral, unjust and just plain wrong, then think on this.
    Iran is giving Zimbabwe a helluva lot of money for its uranium. Where is that money going?
    Because it sure as hell isn’t feeding, medicating, educating or improving the lives of ordinary Zimbabweans.
    Why did the Somali fishermen turn to piracy?
    Because they rather belatedly realised “Hey! Someone might pay to get that big boat back…”?
    Or because the fish disappeared? Where did the fish go?

    The world’s population, me included, donated billions of dollars to “fix Haiti” after the Jan 2010 earthquake. Billions and billions. So why are the Haitians still living in tents, carting water in buckets and defecating in the bushes? Where did the money go?

    First? First we need to stop thinking that because we throw our hard-earned cash at some part of the problem it’s the fault of the people who didn’t get it that it wasn’t used properly.

    =
    Yes I know I’ve generalized horribly and there are bright spots all over the dark continent.
    And it’s certainly a more long-winded way of saying “You’re pathetic!” but does it give you something to argue?

  • Anonymous

    If you drowned you’re dead and the dead have no problems.

    But as we’re arguing that the white man’s prior colonizing of and slave trade in Africa is or isn’t the sole cause of all of Africa’s problems today – are you suggesting that those Asian women in LA sweatshops were enslaved by “white men” or are you just pointing out that the current global human trafficking crime industry has come to modern America too?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I am saying they are the same.

    Racism and ignorance knows no political party, and anti knowledge? All three (and more) have their heads buried in the sand.

    If you want to talk dangerous wasn’t it the republicans and democrats that lied and supported those who lied who took us to war? over 1,000,000 civilians killed? Who knows how many American service men have been killed AND permanently injured. I guess you don’t think that is dangerous.

  • Anonymous

    Michele Bachmann is as ignorant as the back of my balls,and that is pretty damned ignorant!!

  • RodentKing

    She speaks the truth..

  • http://newyorkbrits.blogspot.com/ Sewollef

    It’s been said before, but we elect the government we deserve. And Minnesotans have gotten their just desserts with Bachmann. The repercussions for other, thinking Americans can be a lot worse however.

    Let’s be clear…. she knows only too well the history of the United States, but she’s playing to the peanut gallery and her ‘adoring fans’… most of whom simply don’t want to know about the less than humanitarian beginnings of this country, from the dark stain of a genocide against native Americans, to the whole slavery issue.

    It’s that fact alone that I find distasteful and reprehensible in this woman and other politicians like her. I hold her in utter contempt and disgust that she can be so duplicitous.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Zentrails/100001475536421 Bob Zentrails

    Don’t forget women.
    Women had no rights at all before the 20th century and were literally considered “chattel.”

    Children, too.

  • Anonymous

    Michelle Bachmann thinks that all African Americas should be just line Allen West….who is simply an IGNORANT ASS!

  • Anonymous

    “And they knew when they came here they weren’t coming for a welfare state,” Bachmann continued. “They were coming here for the thrill of writing their own ticket. Who did we attract? People that wanted a better life and were willing to do what it took to get it.”
    _____________________________________________________

    Slaves on the Pomfret CONNECTICUT plantation in 1764 including “”Prince, Harry, Pero, Dick, Tom, Adam and Christopher, all Negro men, and Dinah, Venus, Rose, Miriam, Jenny and [a second] Rose, all Negro women…” Their children were “Primus, Christopher, Sias [sic], Sharper and Little Pero.”……..

    http://www.courant.com/news/special-reports/hc-plantation.artsep29,0,1109964.story

    …would I reckon have disagreed with the above.

    Having no history, she must never be allowed through any election ballot box to have us suffer either from her ignorance nor repeat history she cannot (nor will not) understand.

  • ladygeek

    They also get paid, brought in luxury to so-called “tea party” events and get attention from the media. I keep wondering why the media hasn’t brought this to the attention of the masses – oh, I forgot – it’s the Corporate media. My mistake.

  • ladygeek

    You do know that she was a graduate of the Oral Roberts School of Law – now part of Regent University – a wholly owned subsidiary of Pat Robertson’s broadcasting and mindwashing media empire.

  • ladygeek

    NO, it does not. Her district does not include any portion of the Twin Cities. District 6 includes the suburban and farming areas starting in Stillwater, MN in the east and skirting the Twin Cities northwest areas including St. Cloud. These areas are where the wealthiest Minnesotans live.

    She is the least popular politician in Minnesota. She is only rivaled by our former idiot governor Pawlenty who mentioned the well-known and honorable government representatives from Minnesota: Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, Paul Wellstone (who would have won the election against Norm Coleman if he hadn’t been murdered) to Al Franken at CPAC. And, we all know how much the CPAC people love Al – they loved Paul that much too.

  • ladygeek

    You’re a little late on that one. Tell all those people who lost their jobs, their homes and everything else in the past 10 years due to the tax policies of the Reagan republicans. I believe it actually started during the robber baron years in the late 1800′s and continued on – all the way with Goldman Sachs getting all that cash. Each and every recession/depression since that time is one where Goldman Sachs had a major hand in bringing these financial peaks and valleys forth.

  • LeftCoastLeftie

    Why, because she wasn’t there? It is as indefensible as her proposal to cut benefits to veterans. She probably hasn’t ever talked to a veteran who didn’t grease her palm with cash. Let her give up her subsidies and government-paid socialized medicine and see how long it takes her to start whining. I’d say about three days.

  • ladygeek

    That’s not exactly correct. There were 2 major forms of Christianity since the time of the Emporer Constantine in 300 AD: the Byzantine (the Orthodox christianity) and the Roman one. It was the Roman Catholic Church that brought about the reformation because the church controlled everything in the European countries and all wealth and titles (royalty) were controlled by Rome. For example, (a great one at that) see Henry VIII and how he brought about the reformation in England. He also raided all the churches and monasteries for the gold and other precious items after which torching the buildings. The real reason for that was he himself spent way too much money on his pleasure and fun and games. Being a protestant in England prior to that, meant burning at the stake as a heretic. The real revolution was that the printing press allowed the publication of the bible in other languages than Latin and that threatened the Catholic Churches’ control of those documents which were written in Latin and therefore unreadable by anyone except the clergy and royalty. Even the bible being printed in English and smuggled into England meant burning as a heretic. In one case, the Tinsdale bible, was quite popular and his body was taken out of his grave and burned at the stake for the english version of the bible. I’m a history addict. I could go on but I think that was enough for now. ;-)

  • Jaimie11

    This is what I said – “her district excludes almost all of the Twin Cities”. I assume you simply misread it.

  • ladygeek

    He’s a satirist. That’s what Al claims as his profession.

  • ladygeek

    You are exactly correct. It is the most republican district in the state. The last democrat that held that position was in 1986. Since then, it’s been all republican.

  • ladygeek

    No one has mentioned that there were other reasons people came here. Some were indentured servants and condemned criminals (Georgia was a penal colony).

  • ladygeek

    Now you’re insulting Jerry Springer’s audience. :-)

  • ladygeek

    Now, what could you possibly expect by a person who attended and graduated from the Oral Roberts School of Law?

  • ladygeek

    Seeing as how the white race is in actuality a minority in the entire world’s population, I’d consider that a bit ironic and stupid at the same time.

  • ladygeek

    White history month is only recognized in the western civilization which is western Europe and North America. Pretty much a minority race world-wide.

  • ladygeek

    Ok, I have to ask: Can we hold an Albanian-American history day?

  • Anonymous

    I’m surprised this comment has received to date 17 recommends.

    Believing Rethuglican big and small lies has nothing to do with laziness (or sofas or weight) but everything to do with fear, lack of education and the vain hope the Confederacy might rise again or Tory America will ever yet again appear.

    We killed, stake in the heart, those Fascists in 1865 and 1789 respectively. Perhaps a third lesson in Democracy will be required so that our present day Rethuglicans well understand the Constitution and the Union.

    I do hope the last two violent instructions in Democracy were sufficient. We shall indeed see.

  • Anonymous

    Nope:

    I reckon Bachmann (save perhaps her husband) has no effective “handlers”. Her supplicant staffers nod and carry on (or are quickly dismissed), hopeful they have a job tomorrow. The Rethuglican leadership is quite wary of her, (read fear).

    A loose canon, bat-shit crazy but tolerated by those who think they can use her to greater future advantage, who really now voices the bat shit crazy tea party legions the Rethuglican back door money men gave first voice?

    As the Rethuglican establishment looses control of the tea party, she is either an anchor for them or her chain has but fouled their propeller and must be cut loose.

  • ladygeek

    I apologize – I did misread it. I get irritated every time I hear her name. My sister used to have a farm in that district on the western edge (Delano) and it was a dairy farm. The dairy farm programs were so gutted by the repukes that many of those farmers ended up going bankrupt using a Reagan bankruptcy program so they could keep their land and buildings but none of their dairy cows. That was the last time there was a democratic representative for that district.

  • Jaimie11

    Yes, but both sides I believe work towards gutting the small farmer – Big Agra wants them all out of business and their farmland either absorbed by Con Agra or turned into WalMarts, and both sides are tools of the corporatocracy.

    I don’t know much about Bachman’s political views but I’ve never heard her say anything of real interest, while she often says things that are completely ignorant and beyond believing anyone could say them. I am surprised she is on the House Committee on Financial Services and wonder what, if anything, she knows about financial services.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RSIEBWQAPHLNJILBHJTGS3EGII krist121212

    Best thing that can happen to a black person: be born in America instead of an African slum, as a descendant of a slave who incurred the entire unjust cost, while you incurred absolutely none of it. LOL : ) Fact. Source: every HDI statistic ever published, every quality of life index ever published, and of course, reality. Non-news. Peace.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2NPRPRYZC3RF424Y4G4NKPY3FM Anya O

    I’m not worried about Bachman’s complete disregard for factual history. I’m worried about the retards that believer her and vote based on the retarded things she says

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2NPRPRYZC3RF424Y4G4NKPY3FM Anya O

    nevermind

  • Anonymous

    Are we becoming a nation of boorish ignorants? Why in the WORLD do people even listen to the utter garbage and nonsense that this woman spews forth from her pie hole? The reason the Rethuglicans want to cut education spending is so that they can influence a less educated society. I guess Chinese children who are often abducted and forced into labor by their “parents” experience the same “free will” that brought the first African slaves to this country. Ask them how “free” they are Michele!! You are a miserable excuse for an American and a human being. P.S. I am NOT and African American so don’t play the race card B.S. with my *&^%.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1161254290 Erich Hicks

    How do you keep a people down? ‘Never’ let them ‘know’ their history.

    “If a race has no history, it has no worthwhile tradition, it becomes a negligible factor in the thought of the world, and it stands in danger of being exterminated.”

    Dr. Carter G. Woodson 1875 – 1950

    “A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree without roots.”

    Marcus Garvey 1887-1940

    “A tree without roots can bare no fruit, it will die.”

    Erich Martin Hicks 1952 – Present

    Keep telling that history, our history:

    Read the novel; Rescue at Pine Ridge, “RaPR”, a great story of Black military history…the first generation of Buffalo Soldiers.

    The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after the Little Big Horn Massacre, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn’t for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry.

    Read the novel, “Rescue at Pine Ridge”, 5 stars Amazon, Barnes & Noble and the youtube trailer commercial…and visit the website http://www.rescueatpineridge.com

    I know you’ll enjoy the novel. I wrote the story that embodied the Native Americans, Outlaws and African-American/Black Soldiers, from the south to the north, in the days of the Native American Wars with the approaching United States of America. This story is about, brutality, compassion, reprisal, bravery, heroism and gallantry. Read the novel, Rescue at Pine Ridge, the story of the rescue of the famed 7th Cavalry by the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers.

    The novel was taken from my mini-series movie of the same title, “RaPR” to keep my story alive. Hollywood has had a lot of strikes and doesn’t like telling our stories…its been “his-story” of history all along…until now. The movie so far has attached, Bill Duke directing, Hill Harper, Glynn Turman, James Whitmore Jr. and a host of other major actors in which we are in talks with.

    When you get a chance, also please visit our Alpha Wolf Production website at; http://www.alphawolfprods.com and see our other productions, like Stagecoach Mary, the first Black Woman to deliver mail for the United States Postal System in Montana, in the 1890′s, “spread the word”.

    Peace.

  • nycplayboy78

    Dumb ass HOOKER!!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/carlocaraluzzo ithinkrevolution

    I have to wonder why there is no “Native American” history month? Why there is no National Association for the Advancement of Native Americans? Why we NEVER remember the BUTCHERING of millions of inhabitants of this land so we could steal what they had been taking care of for tens of thousands of years.
    Or how about Latino History Month? How about ANY race being honored and remembered EXCEPT the blacks?
    Yet they are SO discriminated against.
    IMAO!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JHY4ENK7MASK6XSMIUJG3MREXE Ricochet

    I’m not sure where you’re from, but Delano is west of Minneapolis. Bachmann’s district is east of St.Paul. Your sister’s farm, if it is in the Delano, area is well over 70 miles from Bachmann’s district.
    Minor detail. Bachmann is a scourge upon humanity, and regardless of what she spent, the idiots in her district still re-elected her, knowing she consistently spews falsehoods.
    And to those who don’t think she has handlers, you better believe she does, some of the best (or worst depending on your viewpoint) in the Minnesota Republican party as well as National advisers. This is a cynically run congressional office that relies on the laziness and lack of short term memory of Americans. That’s how they get away with all these distortions. Just like Palin. Only Bachmann ramped it up a notch.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JHY4ENK7MASK6XSMIUJG3MREXE Ricochet

    Okay, now that’s just crazy talk. Have you been reading a Catholic History of the World? As a father of two disabled daughters, under feudalism they would be dead shortly after birth. Because under REAL feudalism, if you couldn’t pull your own weight, you died. Aquinas view of feudalism has long been viewed by historians as a whitewash, created by religion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JHY4ENK7MASK6XSMIUJG3MREXE Ricochet

    And don’t forget junior Senator Amy Klobuchar. Daughter of a much loved columnist here in the Twin Cities, she keeps a low profile but actually gets a lot done. Also an excellent progressive. And no, progressive is NOT a dirty word.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JHY4ENK7MASK6XSMIUJG3MREXE Ricochet

    Oh yeah, you know it. But she doesn’t like to talk about the family business. Total hypocrite.

  • http://twitter.com/joaoroque joao roque

    you are right.

    good luck america. for what i can see on the internets, there are some thinking people there too, but the majority seems to be non-thinking (at least don’t use the same part of the brain as an reasonable person). and worst, the non-thinking people belive they are so right on their opinions that they often add to their pool non-thinking low iq people.

    obv it is not only in america, it is also in the rest of the world

    had it always been like this trough out history? prob yes.
    is it getting better or worst? it had been getting better, but now, for a few years, we may be going back again.

    alezzz dumb people, cause u rule the world!

  • bumerry

    Using fatness, laziness and TV watching as classist insults doesn’t make
    you look smarter, or indeed any less hateful, than the Teabaggers you
    criticize. If you stereotype me as an insult toward others, your
    comment IS about the traits you use. Then in your reply you assume I
    gorge myself on fattening foods. And imply I’m emo. And just as
    ignorant of history as Tea Partiers. Nice going, you’r ewritng at least
    is compact and efficient.

    You do redeem yourself a little. At least you’re enlightened enough to
    know not all disease in fat people is caused by their weight. Good on
    you! Part of my disease involves 3-6 week bouts of almost unrelenting
    nausea. Between 12/26 and 2/2 I ate exactly this: 1 apple, 5 eggs and
    one slice of deli ham. Still overweight, in fact OBESE – boogah boogah
    boogah! So overeating, not so much a problem. Never has been
    problematic either, fat is a phenotype more highly heritable than
    height, and fat people don’t eat differently than thin people as
    populations. Believe me, my fellow biomedical and psychological
    researchers have tried desperately for a century to prove that all fat
    people are gluttons and there’s a magic diet, to no avail.

    Hope you had a happy Valentine’s day. I spent it in the hospital having
    seizures affecting all my skeletal muscles and esophagus. I was hoarse
    and couldn’t swallow with bad pain for days. So you can see how I might
    be a little pissy when people use my size as an insult then call me a
    glutton.

    Peace be with you.


    Mary Heil
    bumerry@cluemail.com

    —– Original message —–

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