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US government accidentally shuts down 84,000 websites during child porn raid

By Eric W. Dolan
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 16:45 EDT
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Approximately 84,000 websites were shut down and wrongfully accused of having links to child pornography as part of “Operation Protect Our Children,” a new joint operation between the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Department of Justice (DOJ).

The DHS Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) announced Tuesday that it had executed seizure warrants against ten domain names of websites engaged in the distribution of child pornography, but during the operation the domain name of a large DNS service provider was also mistakenly seized, TorrentFreak reported.

The domain name mooo.com, which belongs to the DNS provider FreeDNS, hosted 84,000 subdomains, all of which were seized and replaced with a Homeland Security Investigations banner.

“On Friday February 11th at around 9:30 PM PST mooo.com (the most popular shared domain at afraid.org) was suspended at the registrar level,” the FreeDNS owner said in a statement. “Freedns.afraid.org has never allowed this type of abuse of its DNS service. We are working to get the issue sorted as quickly as possible.”

“Due to the way propagation works it will take 3 days for a restoration to take effect,” the owner added. Most of the subdomains on mooo.com were for personal websites or small businesses, according to TorrentFreak.

“You can rest assured that I have not and would never be found to be trafficking in such distasteful and horrific content,” one owner of a subdomain affected by the seizure wrote. “Last I knew, accusing someone of trafficking in or producing child pornography was about the worst thing you could ever do them, especially if it stuck.”

The DHS banner stated: “Advertisement, distribution, transportation, receipt, and possession of child pornography constitute federal crimes that carry penalties for first time offenders of up to 30 years in federal prison, a $250,000 fine, forfeiture and restitution.”

“Each year, far too many children fall prey to sexual predators and all too often, these heinous acts are recorded in photos and on video and released on the Internet,” Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano said. “DHS is committed to working with our law enforcement partners to shut down websites that promote child pornography to protect these children from further victimization.”

ICE has seized a number of domain names in the past few months, mostly of websites involved in pirating music, television or movies.

In the first week of February, ICE announced the domain names of ten “linking” websites had been seized for providing access to illegal, pirated telecasts of the National Football League, the National Basketball Association, the National Hockey League, World Wrestling Entertainment, and the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

Visitors to these websites now only see a banner that informs them the domain name was seized by the New York office of ICE because of criminal copyright violations.

The websites did not themselves host any illegal content, but allowed users to easily browse for links to third party websites that were hosting pirated videos, according to ICE.

The domain names were seized as part of “Operation in Our Sites,” an ongoing investigation into websites that illegally offer copyrighted material.

In November 2010, the DHS closed down at least 76 domains. Many of the web domains were sites that trafficked in counterfeit brand name goods and some others linked to copyright-infringing file-sharing materials. At least one of the sites was a Google-like search engine: a revelation that caused alarm among web freedom advocates who worried the government’s move stepped over the line.

Eric W. Dolan
Eric W. Dolan
Eric W. Dolan has served as an editor for Raw Story since August 2010, and is based out of Sacramento, California. He grew up in the suburbs of Chicago and received a Bachelor of Science from Bradley University. Eric is also the publisher and editor of PsyPost. You can follow him on Twitter @ewdolan.
 
 
 
 
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  • Guest

    A dry run for the “internet cut-off switch” authoritarians have such a hard-on for? You tell me.

  • Anonymous

    WOW. That’s alot of power in the hands of people who should not have it. They should spend some time in China learning how a government has complete control over their population. Wait till we have a smart electrical grid, then we will have consumption rationing

  • Anonymous

    My thinking exactly, you don’t accidently shut down that many sites. They where beta testing the capability, the effect and the outcome of a large amount of websites being shutdown.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    It takes little time to form a posse and hang someone innocent or not, than to conduct a Trial or Inquiry. The ACLU faces the wrath of many ( sometimes I get irate at who they defend !! ) and yet continues to support our Constitution to the displeasure of both Left and Right . I myself would find it impossible to find fault with shutting down anything to do with pedophilia….but this is how Legislation that starts out with the publics blessings turn into irreversible boondoggles. Shut Downs, Book Burnings, and anger soon escalates and embraces those that promise security and a solution to every problem humanity faces .

  • Anonymous

    Looks like 84,000 strong class-action defamation cases will soon be pending against DHS/ICE and DOJ.

  • Anonymous

    “accident”….just trying out new buttons and switches……

  • Anonymous

    Accidentally on purpose, eh? The USG is practicing for D day. Mubarak will look like a saint by the time they’re done with us serfs.

  • Anonymous

    which will go nowhere…..”national security” will be the bleating……

  • Anonymous

    Yep. That’s exactly what it is. They’re becoming awful transparent on their underhanded shenanigans.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZQPQ7VGUQIMTNHZCUM472IPSJM Doug Jones

    I do NOT believe there is much if any child porn on American based sites. I’ve read some stories about accusations but I’ve never read a story where a reporter said that “it can be confirmed that child porn was found.” Also, I’ve never seen a story where the accused was allowed a rebuttal. I think CP is used the same way the government uses terrorists.

    And what is Homeland Security got to do with this? They can’t even protect our borders, nut political assassins, meth head users all over my town, drunks driving and killing people… The budget cuts should be CIA, NSA, DEA, and Homeland Security!

    When Bernie Ward of KGO was prosecuted, I saw reports that said his child porn were pictures of two children standing next to a woman with no top clothing. That instantly reminded me of pictures I personally saw in the Bishop Museum in Honolulu HI from 1970 to 1981. There were many pictures like that there on not only Hawaiian women but visiting European/American women. Bernie is serving a 7 year sentence.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YHUR5LALBGRBDQ5VAKAL3JDKNU JustinB

    Exactly the same thought I had as soon as I started reading this. Just like we had to shoot that weather satellite down a few years back. Funny how after China shot one down, we had to prove we could do it too. Ironic how Egypt pulled the switch and here we are experimenting with the same capabilities.

    Any idea on the estimated revenue lost as a result of this error? It said small business’s were amongst most of the sites effected. Could be delayed for 3 days? Are we also experimenting with how to kill small business? We the people are held accountable for all of our mistakes. Where is the accountability on ICE?

  • http://www.balmorheaprogressive.blogspot.com/ BaileyWuXiang

    If the FBI were observing the Due Process principles of the Bill of Rights this wouldn’t have happened. Instead, they’ve revealed how they really feel about the Constitution. The fascism of the Amerikan government is not so creeping anymore; they’ve pretty much gotten there.

  • Anonymous

    This is just mindblowing. This is just more proof that if America isn’t a third world dictatorship yet, it’s well on its way to being one.

  • Anonymous

    What does child porn have to do with homeland security anyway?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZQPQ7VGUQIMTNHZCUM472IPSJM Doug Jones

    I saw a report that said NARUS, a Sunnyvale CA company, is the one who actually shut down the Egyptian internet. http://www.narus.com/ GOD BLESS AMERICA!

  • Anonymous

    Call me nuts, but I think we’ve got waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy bigger fish to fry than who’s watching illegal broadcasts of the effin’ NFL, NBA, WWE, and UFC.

    This was an obvious Test out in front of the official sucker punch they have planned for us.

    Sorry Mr. Auctioneer… You can go sell that Horse to someone else, cause’ I ain’t buying it…

  • Anonymous

    You find it impossible to find fault with shutting down anything to do with pedophilia?

    My God, you do realize that the Feds consider certain *animations* which are main-stream culturally acceptable in Japan to be “pedophilia” don’t you? The government is looking for any excuse it can lay its dirty hands on to criminalize all Americans–after all, criminals have no civil rights and little power to effect peaceful change in the government. Accusations of “pedophilia”, like “terrorism”, are increasingly becoming just another tool for the government to remove civil rights from citizens who threaten the unlimited power of the Wall Street/Washington oligarchs.

  • Anonymous

    Hope they sue the MFs! 3 days of business for thousands of websites? I’m thinking $100.000.000.00 at least!

  • http://disintermedia8.wordpress.com/ FlatBaroque

    EVERYONE! Calm down!

    No bankers were harmed during this police action.

  • http://disintermedia8.wordpress.com/ FlatBaroque

    And they will look like Ceausesceau when it’s over.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1258739942

  • Anonymous

    Did they think they were war criminals. RIGHT!
    Holder you’re a joke!

  • Anonymous

    And you want to be my latex salesman….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QHCYYGYR2W7Y2DKWIUOBQVUQTY The Blackbird

    Change the name of that Mickey Mouse outfit to Homeland Insecurity. What a bunch of fools.

    There are some things I don’t like about Anonymous but I will cheer loudly the day they hack that department.

  • mjcc1987

    Government people are fairly stupid. I can imagine this.

  • Anonymous

    Thats the kind of question a child molester would ask..

    Could you just stay right where you are for a couple minutes please…….

    Eagles Nest…Come in… This is Agent 1043… I have another pido… over..

  • hourglass1

    the prospect of 84,000 – eighty-four thousand – child porno websites – didn’t ring any bells? i mean how many million perverts would that require?

    that’s as logical as cheney ordering a stand-down of norad on 9.11 after the twin towers were hit and two more highjacked planes were still airborne.

    flatbaroque! good one!

  • Tom

    Maybe because the TSA agents want to keep the best kiddie porn all for themselves?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PSKROFVS7E4PVTI2CEPLFWEJII John

    I totally get it that they want us to be afraid that AL Qaeda wants to blow kids up……

    but now we’re supposed to believe that what they REALLY want to do is blow them?

    I smell a rat!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve just read through twenty-six somnolent posts and only one poster has shown a slight amount of irritation.

    I’m wondering what the US Government, CIA, FBI, Homeland Security, Pentagon, etc., etc., needs to do to get American people really angry.

  • Anonymous

    Down with “Homeland Security”

    Great talk my Naomi Wolf outlining parallels between US response to 9/11 and Nazi Germany:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j1J6Rf7SPo

  • Anonymous

    step 1: Civil unrest in u.s
    step 2: third reich security “accidentally” shuts down entire internet
    step 3: Obama says, “ooops, i pressed the wrong button”.

  • DesertSun59

    I’ve worked in IT, doing networking, for over 20 years.

    There is no possible way Homeland Security has any sort of Internet kill switch, physically or virtually. They’d have to take down ALL DNS servers to do so. Government, and business would come to a standstill as would a huge amount of communication channels that they all rely on. No one would ever let that happen. EVER. So, you all can stop this blather about a kill switch.

    Even if they could do this (which is physically impossible) all you have to do is to enter the IP address of a site that’s still up to get where you need to go. You don’t HAVE to use a DNS server to get somewhere, it just makes it a hell of a lot easier.

  • http://www.RockyFlatsGear.com Jeff Buske

    DHS shuts down 84,000 “child porn” sites while operating hundreds of naked body scanners? One way to wipe out competition! To protect the public from x-rays we made our radiation blocking undergarments. Our products also obscure private areas and help prevent child porn generated by the AIT/WBS equipment. Unfortunately many disturbing reports of TSA workers involved with child porn have appeared over the years.
    www . thebostonchannel.com/r/26165594/detail.html

    We are hoping the dangerous AIT equipment in the airports will be abandoned for public heath reasons.
    Jeff Buske

  • Anonymous

    Why is FAUX NEWS still up?

  • Anonymous

    In the voice of Chief Wiggum… “Good work, boys”.

  • Anonymous

    They label innocent people as child-pornographers.
    They will fight against copyright infringement.
    They will lock you up for smoking weed.

    But they’ll do fuck all when faced with the US Chamber of Commerce conspiring to engage in fraud/defamation/etc or government officials that knowingly use false information as the basis for engaging in war.

  • Anonymous

    Sure it was an accident!!! This was a practice run for when they wish to use it Big time.
    Face it,, these elected officials no longer give a d… about you or me.
    It is about their employers or boss which funds their political programs and decides just who wins and lose in the elections.
    Notice how republicans and Obama made sure the elections were over and they passed the extension of the Bush Tax cuts.
    Now that they have that little problem behind them they are really to slash All programs for the middle class , seniors and poor.
    I do not see any of these elected officials , elite , Global Monopolies or top two percent giving a d… thing up.
    If fact they are enjoying their best profits , wealth and power in our history.
    Why have the controlling democrats not selected a real candidate to run against Obama in the democratic primary election.
    Because they wish to keep things the way it is now. “NO CHANGE” and a complete “CLOSED DOOR” policy , with NO transparency to keep happy their employers these Global Empires.
    The only fight the republicans and democrats seem to have now is to see just who received the money from the Global Empires local and foreign.
    They will be kissing the U.S. Chamber of Commerce ….. for their money..

  • Anonymous

    What a complete screw-up!! How many customers did those small businesses lose when they saw that Homeland Security Investigations banner instead of a business web site? There’s no way DHS can make those businesses whole but they should at least try!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    agreed, and you put it well.

  • David R Velasquez

    They’re just flailing away in the dark, aren’t they?

    It’s just an excuse for exerting control. The goal is wresting control over the entire internet.

  • Anonymous

    If only the feds efforts to investigate Wall Street were so vigorous.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve been fairly transparent for a long time now. They are so in our face with it and with a mostly corrupt supreme court they are free do whatever they want with impunity. They are flipping us the bird.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    There is no galvanizing force anymore, because everything has fragmented there is no common juncture anymore. Before the 1980s people were questioning everything, after the Reagan years the Culture contracted and people bought into the myths, lies, and obfuscations of not only government..but business itself and became more obsessed with gaming the system than reforming it. The only thing that will get a rise out of America would be Military Draft, a catastrophe ala 9/11, or the cancellation of America’s Top Idol !!!

  • Ignatzfattis

    1,2,3 TESTING! -how much you wanna bet?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/FPBFO6RC5R2HHIP3VXSFU2RZQA mjj

    I thought we weren’t able to do that yet?

  • Anonymous

    Somehow I am getting the feeling it wasn’t an accident. More of a bloated and useless department flexing its new found illegal authority.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    This was a test. This was only a test of the Government’s new kill switch.
    Had this been an actual event, then we wouldn’t have turned the sites back on.
    Thank you for your cooperation.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q7G2NHLD62L3CDU7VHFZ4QPVQM Unknown

    Let me get this straight. The DHS just accused 84,000 +/- people of being child pornographers. Wait does anyone else hear that? It sounds like a stampede of class action litigators running to file suit all at once.

  • ghostof911

    You don’t seem to convincing anyone with your argument. If Narus from California could shut down all of Egypt and 84,000 sites here get dropped because of an “accident,” shutting down at least a substantial portion of the internet here does not appear to be so impossible if key members of the elite felt threatened.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KLF5SUA5RDYXG54WWF5SHMVRAI X

    Give ‘em a break.

    They got 9 out of 84,000 seizures right.

    That’s a 0.0107% success rate. Over one hundredth of one percent!

    What’s the big deal?

  • Hassan i Sabbah

    President Hussein is starting to make Eisenhower look good.

  • Hassan i Sabbah

    Or Bush and Cheney and Operation Twin Towers.

  • Helen Wheels

    Looks like the first test to me. There are no accidents.

  • http://disintermedia8.wordpress.com/ FlatBaroque

    The stuxnet hit on Iran by Israel.
    The shut down of the internet in Egypt.
    The Wikileaks phenomenon
    The Feds working with banks to attack reporters
    An0nym0us (our lord and master)
    and these Iranian ships making waves

    I am gonna go ahead and surmise that the battle has begun. Try not to be a casualty.

  • Hassan i Sabbah

    Our only hope is that the revolutions sweeping the Arab World will eventually get to President Hussein.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe this was a pretest.

  • Anonymous

    You’re not funny.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    This is why government Censorship Sucks.

    They will always screw it up, whether intentionally or not.
    Free speech on the internet or we are bringing the global revolution home!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Two of them did just get arrested for stealing a buttload (like 40 grand) of money from suitcases.
    Keeping “The Homeland” safe, obviously.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Are you aware that to sue the Federal government you first have to beg it’s permission in court?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Better to die than live as their slave.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QHCYYGYR2W7Y2DKWIUOBQVUQTY The Blackbird

    Smooth move, US government. Maybe you were better off with HBGary Federal at your side.

  • Nickelthrower

    Greetings,

    This has nothing what-so-ever to do with child pornography and everything to do about letting people know that they can shut it all down if they are so inclined.

    Given that more than 1/2 of the children in this country live in poverty, I find it hard to believe that these people care whether or not photos of naked children are shared on the internet. Also, if we cared about young people, we wouldn’t send them off to fight useless foreign wars (when I was in Basic Training, we had guys as young as 16 in our platoon). Frankly, I do not see any evidence that they care about children at all.

    Next, it is a well known fact that close to 20,000 children die each day (worldwide) due to hunger or lack of clean drinking water. If these “officials” cared so much about children then why don’t they put their vast resources towards helping those kids out. Oh wait, it isn’t profitable to help those kids out.

  • Anonymous

    Is it OK that “the US” can “shut down websites”?

  • Anonymous

    Its time to get the DHS out of the internet business. Most of the time they are shilling for Sony

  • Anonymous

    The first thing that came to my mind as well. They picked the perfect cover story too.

  • Anonymous

    The Police State is here. The United States is a criminal enterprise run by a corporate oligarchy. That’s called Fascism. The greatest genocide in all of recorded history is commencing. Conservatism is an evil, vile, pestilence on the human race.

  • Anonymous

    It was a test for the kill switch. I wrote a thesis on this, authoritarian leaders always use the excise of decency and child pornography when they block and restrict the internet. Expect big things in the future. Why is Egypt freer than we are?

  • Anonymous

    Well said, and true.

  • http://disintermedia8.wordpress.com/ FlatBaroque

    LMAO at your name.

    Yes, it’s OK, we’re protecting you against old men jakkin off in their basement. Are you ready for the Packers to repeat the Stanley cup during March madness?

  • cannotvote

    Well they really do fear us – but the internet is only a distraction, either way the seeds of their own destruction have already been sown – switch or no switch, their end is approaching. Any new dawn cannot fade – we may, the laws of unforeseen consequence, will always conquer the best laid plans of men.

  • Anonymous

    I’m well aware… and guess what? I’m also well aware that to do this one it would even be harder than that cuz it would be a class action.

  • gremlin

    The DHS was for brown bearded hate mongers in caves,…. since when is child porn a threat to national security?

  • Anonymous

    Operation “If They Believe This They’ll Believe Anything and Deserve to Have Their Internet Service Disconnected” was a smashing success!

    FREE AMERICA

    REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

  • Anonymous

    aaaaand the judge rules…State Secrets. Something about revealing how they selected the sites or some such BS.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Armstrong/138701434 Matt Armstrong

    It’s not as though there were 84,000 individual mistakes, there was one and it took out everything it hosted. And for the record, Narus didn’t shut down Egypt, Narus sold tech to Egypt before the uprising that is used to spy on internet traffic. DesertSun is 100% correct when he says killing the internet is impossible in the US, as our internet delivery in contingent upon thousands of providers, as opposed to the handful in Egypt.

  • Anonymous

    No judges signature, no court ruling, no paper trail…no nothing. Property seized by the government just for the hell of it, with no recourse. This is not the America I thought I knew and loved. Remember the good old days when the government would at least seize property “for the greater good” like potentially higher taxes?

    Our government now seizes the property of Human Citizens on the behalf of the Corporate Citizens.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    OMG, what f**cking idiots!

  • Greg Eckhart

    With a flick of a switch, they screwed up a bunch of people, their jobs and a lot of businesses.

    A little beyond belief….even if you concede the State might need provisions like a kill switch in case of ‘bad stuff’, exactly where does shutting down individuals sites and giving them a choice between being publicly accused of theft or child porn, is a bizarre reach?
    Even the cheap excuse that ‘theft’ is a national security concern that justifies some ‘seizures’ is weak, but the child porn thing is bizarre and chilling.

  • Anonymous

    The Internet needs to be censored. It is a tool of the democratic forces and cannot be allowed. When the “Global Warming” scam came several months ago the Internet destroyed their science. Now is the TSA humiliation of citizens including the old and disable, women and children. Pictures of TSA taking advantage of these vulnerable citizens are displayed all over going viral. So it needs to disappear and fast.

    The Internet is creating too many headaches to the NAZI elite. They want you to have your news from ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, etc. Then you will see news like this: “In a recent CBS News poll, 4 out of 5 Americans supported the use of full-body scans.” —– LIES, LIES and LIES.

    The way we are going we are not going to have another election and if we have one it will be totally controlled.

    Oh I forgot!! And …. If you behave and follow their instructions they will give you a nice brown shirt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1046573071 Matt Mosley

    At least they’re doing something good online for a change.

  • http://www.BaltimoreGreenCurrency.org Shrapnel

    I know it’s a bit off topic, but I was wondering if Mitt Romney’s magic underwear was protection against TSA population control radiation.

  • Anonymous

    Boeing has the program to do this, and it is unlawful to own in the US. It was reported at one point that it has been provided to some middle eastern countries. It is a deep packet inspection program. I am not entirely clear how it works, but it disrupts routing instructions so your packets don’t know where to go. It may have been over the heads of the Mubarak crew, since the latest reports seem to indicate they just unplugged the wire.

  • http://www.BaltimoreGreenCurrency.org Shrapnel

    The department of homeland stupidity is the biggest waste of money since the creation of the DEA. Only morons apply to work there, and then they select the most retarded from the pool of applicants. They get trained to remove the last vestiges of common sense and top up their islamophobia. They they give them guns and uniforms and send them out to protect people by trampling on their constitutional rights, and irradiating and/or groping them. All the time, the people they are actually defending are the fascist traitors who blew up those buildings in New York ten years ago.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    The Feds shut these sites down because they just wanted to be alone with all that kiddie porn.

  • http://voxxrocks.com/blog/ HIStory Indeed

    I know this is comment is supposed to be more about DHS funking up, but we seem to have come to expect and accept that, so no news here. I’d much rather use this story to point something else out.

    They mention in here that we put people away for 30 years for having or posting obscene pictures.

    Wow, they must really want to send a message….

    But what is the message when members of the church, or child protective service organizations violate a child directly and end up only in a different zip code?

    If we are so perturbed by such things why do we not impose justice equally?

    Because the system that pretends on one hand that such things are reprehensible, on the other has policies that foster such things…

    2000 Years of Pedophile Priests
    CPS Rape Ring Expose

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely wrong. True conservatives are just as much opposed to the destruction of our civil liberties as true liberals are. The problem is that Wall Street and multinational corporations control the “serious” and “mainstream” discourse at the heart of both political parties–Republicans and Democrats.

    If you love liberty, you will find more allies among the tea party crowd than you will among Obama’s inner circles of Wall Street insiders.

  • Anonymous

    I think this is called the ‘shotgun effect’.

  • Anonymous

    Not 100% relevant, but partially relevant…

    Anonymous just posted a “Call To Arms

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OGFG5OUKDJT63HEAYZCOZQ7B4Y al

    Why the hellis Homeland Security using the vast resources of the government to take out websites that simply provide a link to Justin.tv for example running a movie or MSNBC, etc? THIS is why we freely shredded the Bill of Rights after 9|11??

  • Anonymous

    No, they are TRYING to engage in a token gesture of something good to justify the authoritative nature of ICE and get public opinion supporting them so that they are allowed to continue to act as information-police of the Internet. (I guess working for the benefit of the MPAA/RIAA/Rolex/Gucci/etc alone isn’t enough to garner widespread public support!!!)

    However, what they ACTUALLY did was monumentally fuck things up by effectively slandering 84,000 individuals/groups/businesses/etc by labelling them as child pornographers.

    And the irony is that such widespread slander will go unpunished in America’s phoney system of “justice”.

  • Anonymous

    I am so thinking that Amsterdam is looking more like the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    We are starting to look more like communist China.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, this will happen here. I hope we get as pissed off as the Egyptians did too.

  • Anonymous

    This is what Lieberman proposed in the Seante “to protect the interests of the county” what ever THAT means.

    http://boingboing.net/2011/01/28/egypt-just-turned-of.html

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/5OQFBZ26C3VQ5ONGZGDBDY4BUU Mark A

    No, but I bet his fellow child molesters got a chuckle out of it.

  • Anonymous

    Oligarchy money is defining conservatism with culturally venemous activity that is religious based and has no place in government and serves only to suppress individual liberty. It uses religion to suppress scientific inquiry and thwart scientific investigation. That is not the same in both parties. It’s the CPAC crowd that meets in secret with judges and law makers to coordinate laws and activities that restrict due process. The Neocons brought us 911 and the Patriot Act. Their core belief, the ends jusitfy the means.

  • Anonymous

    I bet this had nothing to do with Child porn.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds to me like Homeland Security is practicing in case we go Egyptian.

  • Anonymous

    Why is Obama asking to the authority to shut down the internet if it is immpossible? I read that in HP about a week ago. .

  • http://www.RockyFlatsGear.com Jeff Buske

    Shrapnel, I can’t speak to Mitt’s “magic underwear”. The magic in our underwear is the use of different elements suspended in a proprietary polymer to form a x-ray filter if you will, the USA made shield is bonded to an American made garment. Protects tissue and dignity.

    Regarding TSA population control the AIT x-rays will create a statistically significant number of cancer cases. Due to the time delay the cancers will be difficult to attribute to the scanners, the various cancer societies are strangely quite on this topic. X-rays alter DNA the very young, expecting mothers and people that carry the BRCA1 and BRCA2 gene are susceptible to cancer. Nude images will not kill you the media TSA/DHS wants to ignore the health risks and make a big deal about porn and groping. The body scanner and “pat-downs” are so Orwellian. Never in my wildest dreams did I think we would be x-ray “inspected” like luggage to get on a plane or soon train and bus. Jeff

    Breast cancer link:
    http://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~mcclean/plsc431/students98/rivera.htm

  • Anonymous

    Just homeland security practicing in case we go Egyptian

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UJ4XRIA3A3E6MYGK755EGWLN4Q Dani A

    Okay so appearantly you have no idea what DNS is. This is NOT a killswitch, all of those domains can still be reached by IP or by binding the ip to a hostname. This doesnt change anything, anyone connected to that network still has the porn, and anyone with half a brain can figure out how to get back there.

    Killswitch this is not, only an annoyance for the technophobes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WBWURHTCYHU2M4NKWMXRQSYLEY Robert Frost

    not trying to be funny but they wouldn’t have to take down ALL DNS servers at all. they’d need to take down all the *root* servers. everything from there down would then break. have a look at your /var/named/etc/root.hint or equivalent file. this wouldn’t be Internet kill anyway. Anything that doesn’t require dns would still work, i.e. freenet would still be fine and there’s already development of a peer to peer TLD .p2p which doesn’t rely on the traditional root servers.

    not like i am suggesting that taking down all the root servers would be doable anyway considering they’re all over the place (well outside the reach of the US) and they’re quite heterogeneous too, i mean they’re not all running the same version of bind for example. some even run djbdns :-)

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/XZOZFUWR3YKJ25ZUAQQZWO7R6I SR

    If the feds have reached a point to where they no longer wish to engage in due process, then they need to be held financially accountable when they are wrong. Due process acts as a natural check against false accusations, but the government has made a conscious, wholly negligent decision to bypass this step.

    Every person who was slandered by these accusations is part of a class that should be entitled to substantial damages.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    To whom are you referring: the sites shut down, or those who are shutting them down? Your remark can be read either way.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    There’s nothing a false-flag liberal loves more than a “true conservative.’ That’s why Robert Frost once said, “a liberal is a guy who can’t take his own side in an argument.”

    We need radicals of the sort who built our labor movement in the 20th century–from Ludlow, to the Pullman Strike, to the shooting wars in mining country. They made demands and fought for them when they were shot at. They didn’t have tea with Bob Taft.

    Their unyielding will to fight gave us all the good things that the Republican subhumans are now taking away.

    We don’t need more traitors who are selling out the movement on the grounds of convenient morality the whole time they’re pretending to support it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Now if they had actually hacked 84,000 individual websites at the flick of a switch, that would be scary.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Comment withdrawn

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    I think there’s more hope than that. What those shows, actually, seems to me to be that “they” can’t shut down anything that the DNS service providers couldn’t shut down on their own if they were crazy. Not therefore a new power.

    In any case, shut down DNS and you shut down Web commerce. That carries a penalty that even the FBI can’t duck. Mubarak couldn’t duck it.

  • Anonymous

    Look up :
    “sarcasm”
    “facetious”
    expand your vocabulary and your mind….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Same reason Reagan wanted to build Star Wars even though the scientists knew it wouldn’t work?

    Obama’s trying to look like a tough guy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    Well said. You definitely deserve that drink you appear to be having.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    This was one action with 84,000 consequences. DNS operates at a higher structural level of the network than the individual web site, and one mistake at that level will usually affect a group of of “leaves” on the network tree.

    So it could have been a mistake. It’s also something, as far as I can tell, that the DNS providers themselves could do if they were crazy and really wanted to damage their own businesses. Not a sinister new secret weapon. In any case, as has been pointed out above, the affected sites could have been accessed to a certain extent directly, bypassing DNS. (DNS translates the web domain names we all recognize into numeric ipv4 and ipv6 numeric addresses.) The actual sites weren’t touched and the networks were intact and functioning.

    For the record, I’m proudly left wing (regularly denounced on Raw Story and Salon for that), and I despise the Federal police forces. The phrase “homeland security” makes me want to vomit.

    I just don’t see that this incident proves or even plausibly suggests the existence of some magical new tool of repression. It shows the existence of a well-known and already fully outrageous tool. This isn’t so much on the technology side as on the legal and policy side.

    A single illegal shutdown, let alone dozens of them (which are surely possible) is outrage enough to provoke open rebellion, even revolution if one were an Egyptian.

    They’ve started with kiddy-porn, which few will defend, and that’s obviously a form of political pandering that could lead to much worse. Only, it isn’t the techno-apocalypse and there are a lot of workarounds.

    Why exaggerate something that’s bad enough as it really is?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    The conservaturds want to ensure that they and they alone have the homeland security to indulge in their favorite pleasure, child pornogaphy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UQ4RKOUKFBVPSUJR3RYK7WMMLE Joe

    The DHS is going to fight terrorism so trade us your freedom for security.

    “I guess these must have been Islamic child pornographers for DHS to get involved.”

  • Anonymous

    American Freedom!

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