Clinton hopes US will split Taliban from Al-Qaeda

By Agence France-Presse
Friday, February 18, 2011 22:29 EDT
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NEW YORK (AFP) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton voiced hope Friday that US-led military efforts would split the Taliban from Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, laying the groundwork for a lasting political settlement.

In a speech at the Asia Society in New York, Clinton reaffirmed US plans to start reducing troops in July and complete the drawdown by the end of 2014 as Afghans take charge of their war-torn country.

Clinton said the surge in US-led troops over the past year was part of a strategy to “split the weakened Taliban off from Al-Qaeda and reconcile those who will renounce violence and accept the Afghan constitution.”

The top US diplomat said that the Taliban faced a similar choice as in 2001, when the United States attacked Afghanistan and toppled the hardline Islamic regime for hosting Al-Qaeda leaders who planned the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

“Today, the escalating pressure of our military campaign is sharpening a similar decision for the Taliban: break ties with Al-Qaeda, renounce violence and abide by the Afghan constitution and you can rejoin Afghan society.

“Refuse and you will continue to face the consequences of being tied to Al-Qaeda as an enemy of the international community,” Clinton said.

“They cannot wait us out. They cannot defeat us. And they cannot escape this choice.”
The relationship between Al-Qaeda and the Taliban has long been a source of contention within US policy circles.

After the September 11 attacks, president George W. Bush’s administration described the two groups as virtually indistinguishable. US troops, now led by General David Petraeus, have focused on taking the fight to the Taliban.

But key civilian leaders under President Barack Obama have put a focus on political reconciliation, arguing that many rank-and-file Taliban are simply seeking a livelihood and can be co-opted.

“I know there are some on Capitol Hill and elsewhere who question whether we need anything more than guns, bombs and troops to achieve our goals in Afghanistan,” Clinton said.

“As our commanders on the ground will be the first to say, that is a short-sighted and ultimately self-defeating view. We will never kill enough insurgents to end this war outright,” Clinton said.

Clinton was delivering an inaugural lecture in memory of hard-charging US diplomat Richard Holbrooke, who served as Washington’s special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan and was a leading advocate for a political settlement.

Holbrooke, a former chair of the Asia Society, died suddenly on December 13 of a torn aorta. He was 69.

Clinton announced the appointment of Holbrooke’s successor: Marc Grossman, a retired career diplomat who has served in Pakistan and Turkey and rose to the top position of undersecretary of state for political affairs.

Grossman will face major challenges including a crisis with Pakistan over its detention of a US government employee accused of shooting two Pakistanis, along with questions about the effectiveness of Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

Clinton repeated concerns about corruption in Afghanistan, saying: “I will not sugarcoat the fact that the Afghan government has, at times, disagreed with our policies.”

She also said it was “no secret that we have not always seen eye-to-eye with Pakistan.” Al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters are largely holed up in the lawless northwest of Pakistan, whose government is allied with the United States.

“Pressure from the Pakistani side will help push the Taliban towards the negotiating table and away from Al-Qaeda,” she said.

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  • cannotvote

    Shut it, you silly moo!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/HF6V37D6JRZC7LATOJY2EL2IZU Manny

    Does anyone trust anything that comes from the mouths of government representatives any more? I know I don’t.

  • gypski®

    Deal with the Taliban and al-bskda to where they are totally powerless. Don’t negotiate with the same shit we pissed billions on.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    No. Only the party faithful and even they must know they’re kidding themselves.

  • http://www.facebook.com/derek.spisak Derek Spisak

    What kind of manure is she shoveling? She really means to pay off or offer protection for the drug running the guys not yet in the CIA’s pocket and to get rid of the evidence of what we started many billions of dollars ago.

  • Guest

    Split them huh? That will be a neat magic trick Clinton considering Al-Qaeda is a figment of the imagination of a ghostly creature that wonders the earth without a pulse or a heartbeat. Of course that’s what magic is all about right Hill? illusion?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Does anyone really buy this garbage? Al Qaeda means the database from the MI6 files on the mujahideen fighters who the West funded and trained to combat the Soviets. http://republicconstitution.blogspot.com/ Hillary is a warmonger and is full of bs…she threatens Iran all the time.

  • Anonymous

    This is a Big Lie. It is well confirmed that Taliban offfered the US Bin laden Before and After 9-11

    Taliban Offered U.S. Osama Bin Laden 7 Months Before 9/11


    “Evidence now available from various sources, including recently declassified US State Department documents, shows that the Taliban regime led by Mullah Mohammad Omar imposed strict isolation on Osama bin Laden after 1998 to prevent him from carrying out any plots against the United States. It also bolsters the credibility of Taliban statements in recent months asserting that it has no interest in Al Qaeda’s global jihadist aims.”


    The truth is we need any excuse to keep our militaries bases there same as in more than 100 other countries.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/UR4DHHC3P6RRXIUP4LWX54YN7I hu

    Well al-Qaeda is a fiction of her propaganda, so that shouldn’t be difficult.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/UR4DHHC3P6RRXIUP4LWX54YN7I hu

    9-11 was an inside job

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/HF6V37D6JRZC7LATOJY2EL2IZU Manny

    Sometimes I wonder if the real reason the U.S. is hell-bent on eradicating the Taliban is that they had the audacity to demand we provide some evidence implicating Al Qaeda and bin Laden had any connection with the events of 2001/9/11.

  • Anonymous

    Target of ‘Decade-Long’ Espionage Probe
    Longtime counterintel official acknowledges evidence behind key aspect of allegations against Marc Grossman made by former FBI translator turned whistleblower Sibel Edmonds
    Bureau vet says investigation was ‘buried and covered up,’ calls for new investigation, ‘accountability’…
    [UPDATE 10/5/09: Cole has now greatly expanded on his confirmation of Edmonds' credibility and is calling for a 'Special Counsel' investigation, prosecution. Full story here...]

    George W. Bush’s third-highest ranking State Department official, Marc Grossman, who became the Under Secretary of State after previously serving as Ambassador to Turkey, was targeted as part of a “decade-long investigation” by the FBI, according to an 18-year veteran manager of the bureau’s Counterintelligence and Counterespionage departments.

    For still-unknown reasons, the investigation, which also involved a multitude of cases involving Israeli espionage, was ultimately “buried and covered up,” according to the official.

    The comment from the former FBI official John M. Cole, in response to recent, stunning disclosures made by former FBI translator turned whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, helps to shore up a key aspect of her allegations. Cole is now calling for an investigation to help “bring about accountability” in the matter.

    Edmonds’ allegations of bribery, blackmail, and infiltration by foreign agents at the highest levels of the U.S. government were recently detailed in a remarkable cover story interview, as published last week by the American Conservative magazine.

    “I read the recent cover story by The American Conservative magazine. I applaud their courage in publishing this significant interview,” Cole says in his public response, as posted today at the AmCon website by interviewer and former CIA agent Philip Giraldi.

    Cole then went on to verify his knowledge of the espionage investigation which, he says, included Grossman. Edmonds has long alleged he had been a key target in the agency’s counterintelligence probe of the Turkish lobby and their relationship to current and former members of Congress and high-ranking officials in the Bush State and Defense Departments.

    Cole also charges, in his brief comment, that the investigation was ultimately quashed by still-unnamed officials.

    “I am fully aware of the FBI’s decade-long investigation of the High-level State Department Official named in this article, Marc Grossman, which ultimately was buried and covered up,” Cole notes, adding his call to re-open the matter. “It is long past time to investigate this case and bring about accountability.”…

    Grossman was specifically identified as a ring-leader in a very broad espionage scandal — which includes the theft and sale of nuclear weapons technology to the foreign black market — in a series of front-page exclusives by the UK Sunday Times in early 2008 (the stories can be found here, here and here). At the time, though the paper clearly identified the official in question, they didn’t name him outright due to British libel laws. One of the co-authors of the series, Joe Lauria, has since confirmed the official in question was, indeed, Grossman.

    The So far, Grossman has yet to respond to The BRAD BLOG’s requests for comment as sent to his lobbying firm, The Cohen Group, where he now serves as Vice Chairman. Brad Blog pg2.


  • Anonymous

    What happened to my Brad Blog (pg.#) info on Marc Grossman, Hillary Clintons recent replacement of Richard Holbrooke? The Sibel Edmonds court testimony is all over the web. Why suppress it? It’s already out & not going away. Oh, I see you’ve posted my article, mentioning Grossman, now a day later.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    Most of us have read Orwell’s “1984″ and are amazed at the way it illustrates how propaganda is used and also embraced by a public so focused on themselves…that they willingly block out the obvious for fear of going to room 101. Hillary and indeed most of the politicos today are the Spinners, they are the level above us ( like a Supervisor at work they concoct plans and implement them on us). The true powers are the ones that are able to buy these Public Employees outright and are able to destroy any of these proxies, the mission is to keep us ignorant, keep us divided, keep us pacified….while they buttress their power, wealth, and seek out more territory.
    For all the talk of democracy, free markets, a free society, let freedom ring….there is an autocrat either backed or installed by us who they have no troubles giving money, troops, etc. As an American I also know there have been many other Empires and that currently other Countries are also in this same operating mode. It would be a lot easier if we all swallowed this swill, because seeing this indifference to the American people is like being repeatedly stomped by a huge Doc Martin ala “1984″ .

  • Anonymous

    If Al-Qaeda didn’t exist the CIA would have to invent them…Wait a second! They did..didn’t they.

  • Anonymous

    You got that right.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Until Sept 11 of 2001, the USA was the Taliban’s number one economic backer.
    Al Qaeda was originally a database of Islamic radicals on the CIA payroll to destabilize commie Afghanistan.
    Not surprising the Hillary should think she has the power to do this.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Yeah, millions and millions of Americans who consume corporate television “programming” believe what they were told.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KLF5SUA5RDYXG54WWF5SHMVRAI X

    Next she will split fairies from warlocks.

  • mick

    This seems to fit here also…
    We know it was all a lie ,from the SCOTUS “selecting” GW Bush for POTUS to now .They gave us 911 as the “catalyzing event” to justify the “war on terror”.Then they committed greater crimes with their illegal invasions .Then you see their actions and wonder how did the “good guys” become the “bad guys” ?

    remember this ,as an example …

    Afghan Massacre: the Convoy of Death


  • Anonymous

    I would be nice, if more Americans had the audacity to demand such evidence, or even the audacity to merely ponder the vast number of unanswered questions regarding the events of 9/11.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Heavens helps us. This hag is now brokering peace deals in Afghanistan. I bet they’re laughing their asses off over there in Afghanistan. And that would explain why they’re supposed to be engaged in talks with the ~wink, wink~ Taliban again. They’re having their royal imperial ass kicked, dragged and bruised all over the Middle and that is what’s behind all this shit.

    Madam Shillary apparently doesn’t seem to know why Afghanistan is called “the Graveyard of Empires.”

  • Johnny Warbucks

    The Taliban is the US’s Frankenstein. They created a monster they’re now afraid of. Muuaaa haaa…

  • hegesias

    Maybe she could try to split the CIA from Al Qaeda while she’s at it.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/FPBFO6RC5R2HHIP3VXSFU2RZQA mjj

    Is she delusional?

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Well, well, well. Lookie here, this is what’s behind all this shit. They’re having their imperial ass more royally kicked than I actually thought.

    * * *

    Statement From The Afghan Resistance
    Permanent Bases in Afghanistan are American Pipedream

    By Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan

    February 19, 2011 “Information Clearing House” — Last week, the Head of the American- installed Regime, Karzai, admitted that Americans were planning to have permanent presence and bases in Afghanistan . According to him, the Americans perceive some incessant threats which could not be eliminated until 2014.

    Undoubtedly, the Americans showed their muscles, resorted to brutalities, used cutting-edge technology, economy, diplomacy and ploys during the last decade to swallow and digest Afghanistan. But thanks to the help of the Almighty Allah and the bravery of the Afghan Mujahid people, American and the invading coalition forces faced defeat, their stratagems and strategies failed. The situation now has reached a phase that every household of the Afghans opposes the invasion and wants to beat them. Similarly, the people in West and in America, loudly say that America has lost the war of Afghanistan; they do not support this war and want their troops to return back home soon.

    Since the Americans have lost the chance of advancement at the military field and disappointed from the success of their war strategies, so they want to justify their presence in Afghanistan for some time by resorting to the stint of establishment of permanent bases in thecountry. They want to show to the world that they have come here for an important mission which requires their prolonged presence . The Afghans know the idea of permanent bases is a mere conjectures of the Americans because Afghanistan is not a country where the aborigines will tolerate presence of foreign troops even for a single day, nor they will be ready to sell their soil to the Americans for a few million of dollars.

    The Americans should know, neither the rulers of the stooge regime nor the hand-picked parliament is entitled to trade on the destiny of Afghanistan with any one– still less to be in a position to implement it. Had they enjoyed such mandate and representation of their people, Afghanistan would not have become a center of toils and threats for the foreign invaders. These stooge rulers sold Afghanistan to G. W. Bush ten years ago ostensibly for 5 centuries, but the past decade is witness to the fact that the Americans never have had a sleep of solace even for a single night but, contrarily, every inch of Afghanistan has become an oven for them. This exposes the fact that this country has some other vanguards who are able to force the 150,000 men strong foreign invaders to pull out and meanwhile besiege the surrogates in their official buildings to the extent that they can’t walk freely one meter out of their premises. Their scope of authority and activity is limited to the said buildings, being merely able to implement their say there.

    Observers believe, the establishment of permanent bases in Afghanistan is an American pipedream and is not practicable. The regional countries unmistakably realize the goals and objectives of America behind their prolonged presence in Afghanistan. Naturally, the regional countries will not accept this notion but rather will oppose it. Even they will forge an alliance against it if they find the chance to do so and will make efforts to deal a dashing and crumbling blow at America.


  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Clinton hopes US will split Taliban from Al-Qaeda”

    Considering there are about 20 Al-Qaeda fighters left in Afghanistan, I suggest you to send Justin Bieber to do the job.

  • Anonymous

    Do Not Fook with The Hildabeast!

  • Anonymous

    Why aren’t her daughter and son-in-law in the fight against al-qaeda and the Taliban?

    And how much and what did you promise to give them if they split?

    Nice speech about knocking off security force hostilities and your own take down Ray McGovern. Two-faced bitch.

  • Anonymous

    last year, as with condi rice before her, we were treated to the spectacle of hillary clinton literally on the steps of the palace of the vicious fahd monarchs of saudi arabia… posing the US as arbiter of human rights while running torture chambers and drone-bombing civilians…

    and who created al qaeda but the money of the fahds and the money of the US into the pocket of osama bin laden who whose firm was paid $295mln to build an airbase for the US in the early 1990s… and it was the reagan CIA and state department who created and empowered taliban in the afghan civil war and war against the USSR in the 1980s…

    and as qaeda/taliban are grassroots guerilla movements and not distinguishable from any other citizens… good luck spotting them; much less splitting them.

  • Anonymous

    gave the shadows of pentagon/NSA/CIA/FBI, etcetera, their wish-list on a silver platter filled with blood. as i’ve alwyas pointed out, the level of truth told us on 911 is seen in the words ‘the air is safe.’ well that ‘safe air’ damn near killed me… came down with an intestinal illness and lost 18lbs before recovered… then learned from ol jimmy breslin that he had also gotten that… and that he’d learned that at least 145,000 other new yorkers had too… and that its utter lack of reportage evidenced conspiratorial cover-up. and so far, the medical and survivor benefits from that ‘safe air’ hae cost hundreds of lives and $13.5bln…

    and as i’ve said all along… the jets used indian point nuclear power plant as the landmark where they turned for fastest route to WTC. had they hit that plant? china syndrome atomic explosion and meltdown to the aquifer… the western economy would have gone up in a flash. and evacuate the northeast? 100mln going where? import evian for drinking and irrigation?

    where was james baker that morning? as was seen on all MSM that day, baker, bush family’ longtime political and business counsel, was having a breakfast meeting with 12 members of the bin laden family and their advisors at the washington sheraton-hilton. when the news of the attack hit; baker had them jetted by air force one back to riyadh, “for their protection.” no interrogations, not disappeared into torture for years to gain ‘confessions.’ bin laden celebrating at the bush ranch in crawford?

  • Anonymous

    reminds me… in 1995 WaPo reported that the largest cocaine bust ever had been a joint op by CIA-DEA resulting in tons shipped to andrews AFB in DC… and 3 hours later, it had all disappeared! poof. wife and i figured its value based on street price of a gram… 1.3% of total US GDP! yet not a single person was ever even charged… except for some young black guy delivering to some whites…

  • Anonymous

    maybe. maybe not. the CIA used bin laden as an asset for years… and CIA’s top expert in bin laden states flatly that bin laden was dead no later than 2000, he thinks actually died from his kidneys in 1999. and he shows photos and video in which later images and voice are clearly not the bin laden of earlier years. he showed signs of fabrication and pasting together of bits of his old tapes…

  • Anonymous

    zogby did a survey after 911 showing that in new york city, 49% felt lied to and believed that the govt was covering up… indeed, on 911, even reported in all MSM then dropped, FBI said that they were investigating a small number of entities who had sold their airline stocks and bought massive quantities of gold the days prior to 911… among many other points, bush-cheney-rice all refused to testify under oath even before the whitewash ‘inquiry’ by congress. that’s like ‘taking the 5th’? and soooo much wasn’t allowed to be even addressed in that sham inquiry. like the fact that at least 42 persons did their duty and reported the jets were off flight-path. at least 4 did those reports while jets were still in massachusetts… with over 7,000 military fighter jets within minutes of NYC… not one sent to intercept the highjacked liners?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    Al-Qaeda is anyone the US government says it is. Today “Taliban is Al-Qaeda.” Tomorrow “Taliban is not Al-Qaeda.” It’s simple really…

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Anything and everything scares those bastards. They’re all cowards.