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Ex-aide: Colin Powell was ‘manipulated’ by Cheney into justifying Iraq war

By Sahil Kapur
Friday, February 18, 2011 9:40 EDT
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WASHINGTON – Colin Powell’s ex-chief of staff said Thursday the former Secretary of State was lied to and manipulated by Vice President Dick Cheney into justifying the US invasion of Iraq.

The primary justifications offered by the Bush administration for invading Iraq were that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction and had possible links to Al-Qaeda. Both turned out to be false.

Iraqi defector “Curveball,” ostensibly a source corroborating Hussein’s biological and chemical weapons program, this week admitted he knowingly concocted the story in an effort to get rid of the dictator.

Lawrence Wilkerson, a retired Army Colonel who ran Powell’s staff at the time, was asked by MSNBC’s Cenk Uygur if he believes he and Powell were “flat-out lied to.”

“I cannot come to any other conclusion,” he responded, saying that some intelligence sources had warned Curveball may not be reliable. “I think there was some manipulation of the material and there was some outright lying.”

Powell testified before the United Nations about Hussein’s ostensible chemical and biological weapons, in a speech many believe was critical in justifying the invasion.

Asked by Uygur if he believes Cheney “manipulated” Powell into giving the speech, Wilkerson replied, “absolutely.”

“The only member of this administration with any credibility is Colin Powell. He’s got poll ratings like Mother Theresa,” Wilkerson recalled telling his staffers at the time. “They’re using him.”

“One of my team said, ‘Why is Powell doing this’?”

But Wilkerson lamented that even if Curveball had not existed, “we still would have gone to war with Iraq because George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were absolutely intent to do so.”

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  • Anonymous

    Yeeeah whatever.

    MILLIONS of people knew this was a mistake and they were called conspiracy theorists.

  • PrissyPatriot®

    I’m finding it difficult to believe Powell was that stupid. His history, dating from Vietnam, shows he’s done more than one “job” for the neocon thugs…

  • ProgressiveInNewYork

    Once again, WHY are these warmongers NOT ON TRIAL?
    Why are no crimes agains humanity filed? Federal law, state, city?
    Why do these inhuman cretins still roam free. Free to spread their lies and bask in their ill gotten gains?

    Shame on us, Shame on the USA.

  • enorceht

    i guess following with absolute blind “faith” didn’t work out so well … and now the u$ leaves it up to the rest of the world to hold this idiots responsible for their action

    and at the time it was me who was “un-american” and a “traitor”

  • Anonymous

    Let’s re-visit Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson. There should be some treason lurking around…..

  • Anonymous

    Cheney like Rumsfeld and his associates followed a plan devosed for Bibi Netrhayahu called the “Clean Break” in 1996. Wiki[edia reports that; According to the report’s preamble, it was written by the Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000, which was a part of the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies. Former United States Assistant Secretary of Defense Richard Perle was the “Study Group Leader”, but the final report included ideas from James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Robert Loewenberg, Douglas Feith, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser.

    What followed was the implementation fo a zionist devised plan to be undertaken by US soldiers.

  • Anonymous

    Why doesn’t the Liar Powell come out and admit it himself?

  • Anonymous

    Lets quit trying to set Colin up for sainthood. On his staff was Richard Armitage one of the players in the treasonous Iran-Contra affair. Armitage was a signer to the New American Century plan and was trying to get Clinton to attack Iraq in the 90′s. A staunch supporter of the Bush Cabal’s New World Order he has drugs, prostitution and delivering Military secrets to China in his background. There is a reason why the same people keep showing up in coporate US Government. How do we spell Treason? We don’t, we just listen to the corporate news and wait for them to tell us who our enemy of the week is.

  • Anonymous

    If it just seems unbelieveable, it is

  • Anonymous

    Well, they’re both consenting adults right?

  • Anonymous

    There is plenty of Treason to go around. In a free country there would be trials. It doesn’t take much to find someone who should be investigated http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3342.htm

  • Anonymous

    I’m so sick of these war lords claiming ignorance, they knew exactly what they were doing. From beginning to end we have been lied to, now we are bankrupt and our nation is in peril, our troops and millions of innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan died and are suffering, thanks to these greedy war pigs. We can only hope that some day some how these criminals will be held accountable for their crimes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RT3XX4DFKZ2AD7JHO3D3PZ7G4M ChrisK

    IF CHENEY LIED ABOUT IRAQ THEN DID HE ALSO LIE ABOUT 9/11???? FOLKS IT IS TIME FOR A REAL INVESTIGATION!!!!!! ONE QUESTION DICK: WHEN YOU SAID “OF COURSE THE ORDER STILL STANDS” WHILE IN YOUR BUNKER ON 9/11 WHAT WERE THOSE ORDERS?

  • Chicago “FOX”

    The list of greivances against our government and in particular the Republican portion of it is GROWING—The Sec. of State Powell was not the only one manipulated,,Our whole country was with the likes of FOX NOISE ,,,Limbaugh,,,O’Reilly,,,Coulter and all the rest of these Fascists LIE-ING there way to having their WAY.The Bush Admin. should be held accountable for their crimes…BUSH,,CHANEY,,RICE,,ROVE,,CARD,,,RUMSFELD,,,WOLFAVITZ,,,FEITH,,,Gen. MIERS,,,Gen TOMMY FRANKS,,,George TENET,,A.G. GONZALES—-It’s time for some testimony under OATH folks……..Another group of grievances is the UNION BUSTING GOING ON IN WI,,NJ,,OHIO..This Gov.Walker who has been in office only for a matter of days and he makes threats like calling out the National Guard if his Dictatorial,,Radical,,Tea Party,,Zealot agenda is not ushered in over-night…..You are nothing but a “BOY” and if you think the World War Two generation will just permit you to waltz in an take over and destroy collective bargaining ,,,You ,,BOY GOVERNOR WALKER and your corporate masters need to re-think your positions because we will oppose you in every LEGAL and MORALLY correct way…We do not condone violence in any way as some of your cheer-leaders do,,,Palin,,Coulter,,,Angle,,,Beck,,Limbaugh,,FOX NOISE……..You view the middle class and lower classes as a source of TROOPS for your end-less WARS,,,Also to provide $$$$ for these quagmires that were Vietnam,,IRAQ,,and,,Afganistan….. Walter Reuther,,,John L Lewis,,Douglas Frazer,,Mr Sweeney,,Sam Gompers,,,Leo Gerard,,,R. Trumka,,,Bob King (UAW) would point out your COWARDICE,,,your disdain for the middle class between puffs of their cigars into your faces………………..Charles Belenchia

  • Anonymous

    Better to just stick to WMD fabrication and Valerie Plame outing… and nail him!

  • Anonymous

    Inquiring minds REALLY do want to know, though I doubt Cheney et al would tell the truth even under oath. They have too much to lose.

  • gypski®

    If the people weren’t so damned busy trying to keep their homes, jobs, kids in school, they’d be taking to the streets to demand a trial of these domestic enemies of their liberty and democracy. Soon, soon, soon, the shits gonna hit the fan.

  • Anonymous

    Plus I always wondered what role the cushy job for his son, Michael Powell, Chairman of the FCC (with nil qualifications) had on influencing him.

  • Anonymous

    Powell isn’t stupid,he went along willingly and became a lying sack
    ‘o crap in the process.

  • http://twitter.com/btmfdrsheaven rebecca meritt

    Why is “Curveball’ named curveball? This guy comes out now when UK and others are looking to make Blair,W,Cheney,Rumsfeld,and yes Powell pay for what they did. Everybody wants to be innocent and plead stupidity. They were just trying to save the Iraqis from the Iraqis and show them the US was the messiah they were waiting on and the messiah would do all this if they anointed him with OIL.

  • Anonymous

    I only feel sorry for the US troops who were killed, maimed and psychologically destroyed by the lies of the Bush war criminals. The families of these soldiers should be in the streets with pitchforks and torches! If I knew my son was killed for the lies of these filthy, greedy slime-sucking Bush administration thugs, I’d be looking for some of those 2nd amendment remedies. Imagine the horror of finding out the entire conflict was a ruse to stoke up more money for the likes of Halliburton, Lockheed, General Dynamics, etc, the Military-Industrial Complex with whom Cheney and Rummy were so cozy. This was about big money and sucking our treasury dry. Cheney wanted a giant transfer of wealth from the Middle Class to his enormously wealthy friends in multinational corporations. That was the ultimate goal, starve the Middle Class so they’d be happy working for $3/hr with no benefits while the CEOs and bankers walk away with billions in profit.

  • Anonymous

    I suggest a correction to the title of this article:

    Powell ALLOWED Himself to be Manipulated by Cheney.

    Nothing was done under threat or force, no one drugged anyone. So Mr. Powell needs to STFU.

  • godistwaddle

    Precisely. AND, Powell said, “We KNOW” about WMD, biological, chemical, etc., etc., et tedious cetera. He did NOT know, and therefore lied.

  • godistwaddle

    Powell should hang in Nuremberg along with the rest. He lied.

  • Anonymous

    Those of us who dared oppose bu$h’s war lies were asked why we hated America, and told we looked French, whatever that meant. Powell had his chance, but drank bu$h’s Kool Aid. Screw him.

  • Anonymous

    I think that the job for his son was just keeping things in the family. No one has enough on Colin to make him do what he does not want. He is a company many through-and-through. His son as head of the FCC brought to television hard liquor ads. Now we can all “Be the Captain” just remember, “Drink Responsively”

  • Anonymous

    Bull, meet shit. You were as complicit as your little knuckle dragging boss.

    Did you have a champagne party in the White House Rose Room when the two planes you planned on made a direct hit on the Towers?

    I know you did!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KLF5SUA5RDYXG54WWF5SHMVRAI X

    There’s a little more to it than that, Wilkerson. Ultimately the reason Powell had to do this is because he’s done so many evil things in the past. Once you get into the evil game, the blackmail keeps you there.

  • Praxman

    Well someone is not telling the truth again….

    Instead, the group turned to the C.I.A. analysts and started from scratch. That night, and every night for the next several days, Powell went to Langley to oversee the process. In Tenet’s conference room, joined by the D.C.I. and at times by National-Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Scooter Libby, and C.I.A. deputy director John McLaughlin, the secretary of state demanded to know the sources and reliability of the information he had been given. For everyone involved, it was a tense and frustrating process. At one point, according to several witnesses, Powell tossed several documents in the air and snapped, “This is bullshit!”

    The Path to War
    Nov 2004
    Vanity Fair

    For a refresher:
    Events Leading Up to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq Timeline
    – Colin Powell’s February 5, 2003 Presentation to the UN Security Council
    History Commons

  • http://my.firedoglake.com/members/breaker581/profile/ John

    I can’t help but wonder if Powell is positioning himself as a “moderate” to possibly take on Obama in 2012.

  • samhoustonTX

    Powell was born in Harlem to immigrant parents from Jamaica. He benefitted from Democratic programs to assist the poor, including public schools in the Bronx and subsidized studies at City College of NY. The critical velocity that he need to be propelled into prominence was provided by social programs put in place by Democrats. Skipping ahead, in Viet Nam, he performed his first important white-washing job — investigate and repudiate the rumors of the My Lai Massacre. To this day, he is frequently reminded of his role in the attempted cover-up. In the early 1990s, he assessed his political capital, becomes convinced that his successful rise in the military was due entirely to himself (forgetting the socialist programs), and realizes that he is a REPUBLICAN. His next big lie was the WMD speech at the UN, done for Cheney. He has bad judgment in handling big issues of morality.

  • Anonymous

    Hello…is this thing on??

    Richard Cheney was chosen for office to secure Iraqs oil.

  • Anonymous

    Col. Wilkerson is a national hero.

  • Anonymous

    Powell what does it mean to you when the weapons inspectors (you know, the EXPERTS ) in charge of looking for the weapons, kept telling us over and over and over NO WEAPONS !!! NO WEAPONS !!!

    And as a supposedly halfway competent four star general, you actually believed that Iraq was going to disperse smallpox spores over the United States from BALSA WOOD airplanes?

    And you were in charge of a fucking war? On our side?

  • Anonymous

    Another Republican trying avoid personal responsibility.
    Please. This is absolutely par for the course in Powell’s career.
    I’m sure he was manipulated into the cover-up of the Mai Lai massacre as well.
    Like he didn’t know Cheney was a lying sack of….

  • Anonymous

    Excuse me, the piece of shit in charge of and who stalled the criminal investigation of the My Lai Massacre is trying tell the world that he didn’t know what was going on with the BS coming from Cheney? We’re supposed to believe this shit coming a from a lying sack of shit?

    Powell, please give us credit for not being that dumb!

  • willymack

    Why the rehab of Powell? Why NOW?
    His federal pension isn’t under any threat, and he’s passed into irrelavence, for all intents and purposes.
    Could it be the rethugs are trying to use him yet again? I wouldn’t put it past them.

  • Anonymous

    and un-American. Bastards!

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Colin Powell for admitting you lied, but you should have spoken up in 2003. I would even excuse it if you spoke up just after you quit the Chimp administration. Why did you wait until now?

  • Anonymous

    Colin Powell: “I am the victim in all of this”

    Yow! Denial knows no bounds!

  • http://www.facebook.com/derek.spisak Derek Spisak

    Sounds to me the former General and former Secretary of State is conveniently planning some sort of defense…

  • Anonymous

    Trying to lie his way out of the lie or blaming it on Darth Cheney shows just how guilty Powell is. Powell is a smart man and had loyal friends in the Pentagon as he knew it was bull be he wanted to be one of the team so he accepted the offer to lie to the World. Powell knew the World Leaders wouldn’t believe a word that come out of any Bush appointees mouth. Rummy was knew World wide as a liar and Cheney would lie to your face and take the gold tooth out your mouth. Powell was used for his reputation of honesty and honor but it didn’t work, even the lies Powell told none of the World Leaders believed it because all had read Curveball statement. Tony Blair was already broke by Bush as Blair was made an offer he couldn’t refuse.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Powell and all the cowards who are trying to escape responsiblity:

    We hate to spoil your joke,

    We hate to spoil your fun,

    We knew you were full of shit, a long long long time ago,

    Back when protests against the war begun.

    Signed,

    United State Citizens.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2NPRPRYZC3RF424Y4G4NKPY3FM Anya O

    I can’t believe with all this going on lately, that the words “war crimes” have not been brought up AT ALL. Lying to the American public based on the words of ONE PERSON who wasn’t even an American citizen, then using those words and inflating them, tying Saddam to 9/11 and Al Queda, among many other things, and people still support this confounded war??? Hell in a handbasket is overused but oh so necessary.

  • Robert Shaftoe

    Why is this not being investigated NOW???

    Bush knew, Cheney knew, Rumsfeld knew.

    Downing Street Memos revisited.

  • Anonymous

    Colin must be eyeing a political career to start white-washing his role in misleading America into ten years of war and Trillions of dollars in unnecessary military adventures at this late date

  • Anonymous

    It’s called incompetence.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Yeah, the entire country was lied to by the Dick.. the difference is, Colin, you had the RAW INTEL that proved the Dick was lying to you.

    You have no excuse. You willingly aided and abetted in war crimes. You, like the guards at Auschwitz, will swing with the Dick and the Shrub; your “I was following orders” canard won’t fly.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    There was no manipulation. Powell was a willing participant, just like in 1990 when he fabricated a satellite photo of Iraqi tanks at the Saudi border to help justify the first illegal invasion. Powell has been on board and a facilitator all along. He’s every bit the warmonger the Dick and the Shrub were.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IU3WYEYZGSU6EUKR35RNYHUX3E eileen schaper

    There is NO Statute of Limitations on war crimes. Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeld/Ashcroft/Gonzales plus the rest of this lying war mongering administration should spend the rest of their miserable lying lives looking over their shoulder.

    Invading and occupying a sovereign nation under patently false pretenses and MURDERING their people IS a war crime.

    They are already paying somewhat for their crimes, they are vilified outside Republican organizations. They should be vilified DAILY in the press as well.

  • Anonymous

    Colin Powell was a patsy, a willing patsy. He was used. And he didn’t resign when he could have made a difference, possibly stopping the frothing-at-the-mouth neo-con Republicans, who were hell-bent on invading Iraq.

    As Secretary of State, Colin Powell, got the War College to do a study of the planned invasion of Iraq months before Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld started hostilities, an assessment that not only dealt with the invasion itself but also the aftermath, what could be expected, including how deposing Saddam Hussein and the Sunni Baathists from power in Iraq would benefit Iran.

    When the insane neo-con Republicans blew off this War College study, Colin Powell should have immediately resigned as Secretary of State and never been cajoled into speaking the lies he spoke at the U.N.. But he didn’t. Maybe he was watching too much of Fox “Big Lie” News? Maybe he believed that no one could be as dumb and devious as the neo-con Republicans?

    When Gen. Shenseki got canned for daring to suggest in a congressional hearing that several hundred thousand troops would be required to not only takeover Iraq but secure the peace afterward, former Gen. Powell should have realized that any invasion of Iraq would be a national disaster, for the U.S. and for Iraq.

    I thought Colin Powell was smarter than the way he came across before the war began in March 2003. He saw Vietnam. He participated in the first Gulf War in 1991. Did he really have no idea of the sectarian makeup of Iraq? Did he really believe Wolfowitz’s and the neo-con Republicans’ claim that invading Iraq would only cost a couple of tens of billions of dollars, paid for by future Iraq oil revenue? Did he really believe that ALL Iraqis would welcome our invasion and it would be a cakewalk? Did he really have no idea that invading Iraq would be a major boon for the Iranians next door through the removal of Saddam Hussein and the creation of a power vacuum in Iraq?

    The only way Colin Powell could reclaim some of his lost honor today is if he sits down and starts documenting in detail what was told him in 2002 and early 2003 before the invasion of Iraq, and by whomever in the insane Bush/Cheney administration. Lay it all out for history, Mr. Powell. Don’t be shy. Stop being used as a patsy. Otherwise, your silence speaks just as loud as your lies before the U.N. And speaking out about “Curveball” now doesn’t count, because I read articles calling into question his veracity before the war was begun in March 2003, especially during the months prior when U.N. weapons inspectors were on the ground in Iraq, and NOT finding anything. Tell the truth, Mr. Powell, you were lied to by your fellow Republicans. You were used as a diplomatic doormat. Reclaim some of your lost honor, as a soldier and an American.

  • Anonymous

    “The only member of this administration with any credibility is Colin Powell.”

    Well, Powell willingly ceded that “credibility.” Again.

  • Anonymous

    Powell had a hand in Iran-Contra, as well.

    http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/colin6.html

  • Anonymous

    To the victor go the spoils, also the pen with which to write history.

  • jimbo92107

    I don’t think Colin Powell should blame his supplier for trying to sell a vial of cocaine to the UN.

  • http://twitter.com/Covert4Liberty Brimstone Hill

    And all we hear in the MSM is those dastardly cricket sounds

  • http://www.balmorheaprogressive.blogspot.com/ BaileyWuXiang

    At the time, there was a bit of a turf battle going on between Powell and Rumsfeld. Behind Rumsfeld was Cheney. The issue, one that aggravated Powell to the point of threatening to resign (eventually he did resign over Iraq), was that Cheney and Rumsfeld had co-opted the diplomatic functions of the State Department and had been cutting him out of the loop knowing that he was against a preemptive strike on Iraq. This battle was going on even before the Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans, infested with neocons, began managing, manipulating and manufacturing the “evidence” of Iraq’s WMDs, their non-existent nuclear weapons program and “al-Qaeda’s” connection to Saddam Hussein. One can only guess that when Powell was offered the invitation of being brought into the loop, he saw an opportunity to reassert the power and status of the State Department. He was duped.

    At the time when it became clear to all that the causus belli for the invasion of Iraq was based upon lies, Cheney diverted attention away from the Zionist-infected Office of Special Plans by scapegoating CIA for “bad intelligence” and got Tenet to resign. Only weeks later, they gave Tenet the President’s Medal, apparently to secure his loyalty to the game. When the rank and file of CIA saw they were being scapegoated for what they knew was a con-job being played out by the Pentagon’s neocons and Cheney, they went into rebellion and began leaking. Cheney immediately ordered Porter Goss and Dusty Fogo, Tenet’s replacements, to effect a purge. CIA responded by outing them all — Goss, Fogo, Cheney and Rumsfeld — by breaking the D.C. Madam scandal. The strong speculation is that Cheney had her assassinated.

    After the 2006 elections, Powell resigned. That is when Wilkerson first began spilling the beans on how Cheney had betrayed and abused Powell. This is an old story, but it deserves a retelling by the mainstream media, who only report on what they are allowed to report.

    The turf war between the neocons still infesting the DIA and the NSA continues now under President Obama who has long-term family ties to CIA. The neocons, using Cheney as agent provocateur in the mainstream media are fighting back by attempting to undermine the Obama Administration. The big picture on foreign policy, which has been under the control of the national security state since the 1963 Coup D’etat, can be perhaps over simplified by describing it as an internal struggle between Neocons of the Zionist-infected defense establishment and the Neoliberals of CIA, each with their affiliated apparatchik representatives of the oligarchy. Whatever balance of power they achieve will not change the fact that both function to design, implement and enforce often competing foreign policies as well as the principals of a closed society against which John F. Kennedy warned.

  • Anonymous

    “speaking out about “Curveball” now doesn’t count”

    – Right, also the recent article about curveball came out before Mr. Powell’s “speaking out” – in other words, he might have gained some credibility if he had “spoken out” about curveball anytime prior to 14 Feb, instead of “speaking out” after curveball on 16 Feb. This fact in itself should actually be enough to bring down the whole kit and caboodle on some kind of technicality – but it probably won’t… Any good lawyers out there? Just prove that Mr. Powell knew what he said on 16 Feb already on 14 Feb. Or, something like that.
    Anyway, good night and good luck.

    15 Feb 2011: ‘Curveball’: I lied about WMD to hasten Iraq war
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41609536/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/

    16 Feb 2011: Colin Powell demands answers over Curveball’s WMD lies
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/16/colin-powell-cia-curveball

  • Anonymous

    Good point and sad thing is Powell probably could have done some good in this world had he had stuck to principles (if his reputation was as good as his image). They must have blackmailed him somehow – I smell a rat.

  • Anonymous

    Wait there is more..
    According to this blogger:

    “The British paper also cited Janabi as saying that UK intelligence officials had implied that, in the event of his non-cooperation, his then-pregnant Moroccan-born wife may not be able to travel from Spain to join him in Germany, where he was staying. “He says, you work with us or your wife and child go to Morocco.”

    http://pakistancyberforce.blogspot.com/2011/02/usz-uk-scapegoated-iraqi-chemical.html

    So British-German “inteligence” Blackmailed Curveball ?

    A Multi State Conspiracy?

  • D.Crockett

    COLIN POWELL was “THE PATSY” for the three stooges “BUSH, RUMSFELD, CHENEY”

  • Anonymous

    You sure he wasn’t a lying sack before the process?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe they should have at least added some of the facts you point out into the above article as well. You know, the long forgotten idea of actually “reporting” the full story, instead of merely painting a rosy picture of a war criminal.

  • Dr. Otto Taxpayer

    I read a fraction of what Powell had access to and I came to the conclusion there was nothing there it is hard for me to buy that he had any faith in the crap he presented at the U.N.. The man is brilliant, there is no way he didn’t know. I think he is playing lawyeresque word games with us to try to save his legacy for history, he is trying to dance the fine line between schmuck vs liar vs incompetent.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Colin ” the water carrier” Powell is going to run for the Republicans in 2012…..

  • Anonymous

    I refuse to believe that these men were duped! Isn’t it amazing with all the intelligence [or lack of] reports all of these experienced men chose the one from curveball to believe! If truly they were duped they were too dumb to be in their positions. If they are just trying to cover their butts and are lying? Shame on them they are to immoral and dishonorable to be in their positions. Which do you think will be the easiest way out for you gents? Will you plead stupid or immoral?

  • Anonymous

    Because we don’t look back………unless we are looking into using failed economic policies from past administrations……then we only look backward.

  • Winski

    AND, will anything be done about the PUBLICLY CONFESSED WAR CRIMINALS walking around in our country that are allegedly US citizens?? OR, will the republican parasite continue to let this boil fester??

    When the public finally has had enough of this and other blatant crimes against humanity committed by direct representatives of the US Government, I can only hope that these folks end up in JAIL for a long time.

  • Anonymous

    Powell is quoted talking to a British diplomat about Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz that “these guys are fucking crazy.” I bet he knew the books were cooked but went along with the charade for a wile and then decided the best thing was to get the hell out of there.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L5RTBE66FQNQHQLJKVXOPQAQZQ Jasper

    When Obama was running and then elected,along with a democratic congress I knew he had his work cut out for him but I believed that nothing could stop the criminals of the last administration from being investigated and exposed. The wars, the torture and war crimes,the firings at Justice,the Pentagon’s in house political intelligence unit,no W.M.D’s. the complicated financial mess here and in Iraq,the sub contractors turned murderers, the Plame – Wilson scandal, and numerous other lies and violations would all see light. Perhaps the press exaggerated but it’s more likely the opposite but I just craved the truth with the chips falling where they may. Instead I got Fox News explaining it away.For me and many others the swift sweeping of every criminal act under the proverbial rug speaks volumes. It was and still is “business as usual,” so no one will talk to the people. Besides the obvious criminal activity many people doubt if Bush was ever fairly elected. Meanwhile Hilary gives her pretend free speech without missing a beat as a former high ranking CIA briefer, now a dissenter, is thrown out for turning his back on her.As we drown in our cesspool of hypocrisy it’s no shock that people abroad and at home wonder what, if anything, this nation still stands for.

  • mjcc1987

    Colin Powell believes Cheney “manipulated” him? A four star general? War hero? No, accept your responsiblity and part in the lie to go to war. No one can manipulate a man like this.

  • Anonymous

    Accurate perspective.

  • Anonymous

    He’s protecting himself from a war crimes trial.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has family ties to the CIA? Tell me more.

  • Anonymous

    Google POWELL LIES TO UN. That story goes back to 2003. He was not duped. He knew

  • Anonymous

    Old stories recycled as new ones. Tire, tired.

  • Anonymous

    Nice to know there are still people willing to question the events of 9/11.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Powell must experience hellish nightmares considering his complicity in so many ghoulish US government escapades over the past thirty five years or so.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V5XKDORJ6HIVIZ6V5OTK76KTEY Immortal

    Hey, is this stuff thermite?

  • http://www.bobcatarts.com/ Robert Gandy

    Purposefully giving false intelligence to the military? Sounds treasonous. Who was Cheney working for? It wasn’t us. Add that to war crimes of illegal invasion, torture, detention without trial, profiteering… Facts are stubborn things.

    Bring Bush, Cheney, Rice, etc to trial. Show the world what “and Justice for all” really means.

  • Anonymous

    This is such pathetically transparent bullshit that even the people trying to spin the propaganda seem to be just going through the motions.

    Colin Powell was a career Army officer, trained at West Point, experienced in warfare at all levels of command, and a general officer very well schooled in politics and institutional infighting. By all accounts he is also an extremely intelligent person.

    There is NO way, NONE that someone in his position with his abilities and experience would not be able to accurately evaluate the quality and veracity of the intelligence he received, and its source. Its the first thing you do with any intel. By that point in his career he had likely evaluated thousands if not tens of thousands of intel reports from a whole spectrum of sources. He took one look at this crap and knew what it really was. He made a choice and is just as complicit as the whole lot.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FONW6K3ZWV4BU4ZTCDCSZHHH6E Mick Jagger

    This guy is a real American…a rarity among republicans.

  • overdoneputaforkinit

    The war was run like a Hollywood movie adventure, with Bush “I make the decisions” as the high priest director. This portrayal separated people from the human reality, inhumanity and injustice of it.

    For the same reason, if some key player from that administration came out and said 9/11 was a set-up from the inside to get the public to go to war, he would of course also add “it was worth it.” Again the public would probably shrug apathetically. That’s because 9/11 reporting was a big production to make the event seem so unreal and out of this world for a reason, to lead to war. Now if an inside official exposed it as a theater production, the media would pan it like last week’s movie.

    One can only look back in history to see what became of countries in which society becomes so apathetic and accepting of war, and the kind of things that eventually befell them. Immoral societies fail.

  • CozmicSeer

    Maybe if we waterboarded him, we might learn a few things.

  • Anonymous

    What the hell does anyone expect from Cheney and Bush, …lol@ “curveball’, just another paid neocon flunky to lie this nation into war for the benefit of the MIC. “They hate us for our freedom” what a killing joke that was. PNAC babies, “New American Pearl Harbor” and all.

  • Anonymous

    You have got to love black republicans…just how naive they are. Powell was one of those that were on the pinnacle of success, yet he allowed himself to be taken down like a pussy.

  • Anonymous

    Does Wilkerson expect anyone to BUY this ?

  • Anonymous

    Powell is a mass murdering mother fucker. He made this speech in the spring of 2001.

    Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice Tell The Truth About Iraq
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0wbpKCdkkQ

  • Anonymous

    Please use the modifier ‘willingly’ before ‘manipulated’ and you’ll have a truthful headline.

  • Anonymous

    If you want to learn something here you have twist and turn your way through the threads.

  • Iconoclasm

    When are they gonna hang that son of a bitch?

  • Anonymous

    Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice Tell The Truth About Iraq
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0wbpKCdkkQ

  • Anonymous

    This dude testifies before the UN-provides cartoon drawings of mobile WMD labs instead of real pictures as proof of Iraq’s weapons programs-now Cheney is at fault? Taking personal responsibility for your own actions is such a foreign concept for these ass-holes.This “blame the other guy” routine is disgraceful.

  • LeftCoastLeftie

    How about Darrell Issa? He’s only got some dead-end investigations to diddle around with . Not sure if he’d even know how to conduct a real, impartial, unbiased, nonpartisan, investigation. Or he could quit, go home, and count his money.

  • LeftCoastLeftie

    didn’t he help cover up the clusterf*ck in Grenada?

  • LeftCoastLeftie

    I think he was ordering pizza with extra anchovies for himself.What else could it possibly mean? Something about the planes heading for the Pentagon? Yeah, that’s also possible.

  • LeftCoastLeftie

    Someone warn him not to fly in small planes again … ever. And if the black car with the tinted windows pulls up at the curb and the door opens and a man smiles at you … don’t get in.

  • Anon 7777

    I’ve said this before and will continue, until others join me.

    Mr. Powell your time for courage, convictions and questions have long past. You are now stuck in the the line up with the rest of your war criminal friends. You are a liar, a disgrace and a war criminal. Either grow a pair and tell the truth about what you know or shut the hell up with your cheap soap opera surprise act about WMDs lies.

    Any “manipulation” that was done was done by you on behalf of your fellow war criminals to invade Poland.. I mean Iraq.

  • Anonymous

    In an effort to get rid of the dictator and get a large amount of money deposited in his Swiss bank account.

    FREE AMERICA

    REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

  • Anonymous

    That’s what happens when men like Bush and Cheney are elected to run the country. Oh… that’s right…they weren’t. They were placed in power by the right-wing judicial activists on the Supreme Court, thereby tarnishing the Judicial Branch of our government in the process.

  • Anonymous

    I’m so sick of hearing, via books, new gigs, etc., architects of that goddamn war trying to expunge their records. Many of us were screaming that this was bullshit, and this is with only a fraction of the material Powell could have gotten, had he wanted it. Buck stops with you Colin.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not letting Condi get away quite so easily. They had an understudy.

  • cannotvote

    War is a racket! Gen. Smedley Butler got to that point, so did Capt.Archibald Ramsey – these guys eventually figured it out, they were vilified by the media – by the rich, they were neutered!
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/23815710/The-Nameless-War-by-Archibald-Maule-Ramsay
    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
    Both books an interesting read, sad really.

  • Anonymous

    Who is feeling sorry for the Iraqis???

    US troops had a choice Iraqis didn’t!

    They live there.

    And are still living under US!!! occupation!!!

    Wonder how it feels to have your door kicked in, yor sons taken, daughters raped by foreign “liberators”?

    Try to imagine how it feels to be Iraqi citizen!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PCHLMPBJKYTW3LJBHZEZMO3TXQ What Ever

    The Devil made me do it I swear by Bush.

  • Anonymous

    As much as it is disgusting to think that we were duped into the Iraq war, I cannot help but wonder if there will be any justice to those who led to the wounding, maiming, and crippling of our soldiers? All those American deaths–what were they all for? For all those budget minded folks–trillions of dollars for what? I believe that although Americans do not care, but what of the tens of thousands of Iraqis dead? Hundreds of thousands made homeless? Destruction of their lands and history? Millions displaced? Renewed and heightened sectarian and ethnic violence? Was it worth it? Other than reelecting the war supporters in Congress, was it really worth all the death and destruction? If you believe in God, you would expect severe retribution.

  • Guest

    Excuse me? Colon Ease was not lied to. The World was lied to by Colon Ease.

  • Anonymous

    Those tentacles sure reach far and wide…

  • Anonymous

    That more than likely referred to the order to shoot down planes once they were able to scramble jets. That’s why the guy asked again. If someone told me to scramble jets to shoot down a passenger liner, I sure would confirm the order. You are being ridiculous. The “x” happened, it follows he did “y” is not an argument based on facts or evidence. Using this argument one could argue Obama blew up the BP well.

    Dick Cheney is a low life piece of trash who is capable of a lot of evil. But this article covers that. Why do you people insist in bringing your controlled demo, missiles, stand-downs, etc. into this. If you want to say the Bush Admin received countless warnings and ignored them, that argument has merit and facts behind it. These other theories have no merit and belong in a comic book. The 9/11 Truth movement’s theory was logistically impossible, and would have involved thousands of people and dozens of agencies. Anyone who knows anything about false flag ops know that you involved the LEAST amount of people required, not the most. And you definitely don’t attempt things logistically impossible. So let’s stick to nailing Cheney or stuff that exists in reality, like looking the other way on 9/11, exposing Plame and Brewster Jennings, Halliburton no-bid contracts and over billing, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Also, Uncovered: The Iraq War, a Robert Greenwald Documentary that came out in about 2003 did a nice job of exposing what most people knew was BS at the time.

  • RottenJohnny

    I firmly believe the bush administration was scared to death of Powell. Had the Iraq fiasco not come to fruition, and the truth was found out before we invaded, Powell was set to be the first viable black candidate for president, and Cheney couldn’t handle that. So they kept Powell in the dark about WMD and used his popularity to sell the lies they fed him to the UN.

    If the truth had been known by Powell, and he’d have stood up against Cheney, I have no doubt he could have been elected the first black president. What happened to him is the most serious indictment of what the republican party is really about.

  • Anonymous

    In other words: Who exactly running the country? Bush Admin or these zionist PNAC members who’s sole interest is to rule the Middle East and protect Israel on the backs of the US military? Where is justice? These people should be put on trial in US not at the Hague.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/L5PHKRPFHK3LLTRDNVH2ZBIWOA Cal

    Nice Try Colin! Unlike the rest of the criminals in Bush’s cabal, I think Powell actually has a small amount of integrity, but that’s not enough to earn a free pass on this one. If you lie down with dog’s you’ll wake up with fleas. If there were any justice in this world, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, Gonzalez and Powell would all be languishing in solitary for the rest of eternity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1046573071 Matt Mosley

    This is only news if you have been in a coma since the announcement, everyone else (those YOU call conspiracy theorists) has known since day one.

  • hegesias

    Investigate 9/11.

  • hegesias

    I completely agree. But when writing this at a site like Raw Story, I think you should replace “YOU” with “the government” or “the MSM and its lemmings” or something. Most people reading here (and writing here, I think) agree with you.

  • Anonymous

    LIAR.

    Why do so many people give Powell a “pass” on this ?

    . . . anybody know ?

  • Anonymous

    “he MADE me do it”

  • Anonymous

    we will never know. but usually the ones who benefit from a crime are the guilty ones.
    most thought bush co was just a bad president until that day. after that 75% of the people supported him and his wars.

  • Anonymous

    OK… so Cheney was to Powell what Stratton was to Flounder in ‘Animal House’.

    Man, I weep for our country.

  • Anonymous

    we live in a society that has been compared to sheep. The reasoning is based on the illogic of when I criticise a person for what they say or do and it turns out that that individuals happens to be Jewish i am automatically labelled “antisemitic”.

    If on the other hand I were to criticise some one who is not Jewish I am considered a liberal, conservative or smart or stupid, etc,.

    In the meantime since the US has followed that plan (bt Perle, wolfowitz, Feith, Wurmsers and other neocon dual citizens) its has cost US over $ 4 TRILLION DOLLARS thousnads killed and thousands of US soldiers crippled for lfe.

    Ohter countries seem to have more principles than we when George W. Bush cannot travel to Switzerland for fear of being arrested for war crimes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RT3XX4DFKZ2AD7JHO3D3PZ7G4M ChrisK

    I don’t think that you have looked into the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job because you can’t handle the truth. The Vietnam war was started by a lie and 58,000 soldiers are dead because of that lie. A majority of the 9/11 commissioners think that we should re-investigate. I have a major problem with the following excuses and explanations: WHERE WERE OUR AIR DEFENSES? HOW COME THE PENTAGON WAS NOT PROTECTED AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER THE ATTACKS? WHY WAS THERMITE FOUND AT THE WTC SITES? WHY WERE WAR GAMES MIRRORING WHAT HAPPENED ON THE SAME DATE? HOW DO 3 BUILDINGS FALL AT FREE FALL SPEED? WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE TESTIMONY ABOUT SECONDARY EXPLOSIONS? HOW DO YOU ALLOW PHILIP ZELIKOW TO BASICALLY RUN THE INVESTIGATION? WHY DID THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION FIGHT AGAINST HAVING A INVESTIGATION? IS THIS THE NEW PEARL HARBOR EVENT THAT GETS US INTO WAR? HOW MUCH MONEY DID HALLIBURTON MAKE ON THE IRAQ WAR? If you really think that 9/11 was fully investigated than you my son are a moron!!

  • D.Crockett

    On there death beds they will need all the help they can get.

  • Anonymous

    And Dick Cheney will be arrested for treason in 5…4…3…

    http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com

    Hey Barry. Letting the entire Bush Gang get away with all their crimes is also a crime. Thought you should know.

  • Anonymous

    The warmongers are not on trial because Barack Obama chose not to pursue it. He said it thus, “I don’t believe that anybody is above the law. On the other hand I also have a belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards.”

  • Anonymous

    it’s more probable that the whole cabal of “bushies” voluntarily showed up at Levenworth than it would be for
    this DOJ ever prosecuting these bastards. Anyway, Powell is trying to extricate himself from his own
    criminal involvement, just like Rummy did in his book. The smell of something burning close to the Bush
    camp must be getting to them. Who’s next, Condom-easy Rice?

  • Anonymous

    “Mr. Powell, for the court, please point out on this doll where the bad man manipulated you.”

  • Anonymous

    Every time I run across this headline I get angrier and angrier. Not just at Wilkerson and Powell for allowing bush/cheney to take us to war based on lies, but for all the people who feign shock that what they were told was not the absolute truth! Please powell didn’t get where he was by being naive! While wilkerson has been critical, after the fact, of the bush adm. they sure were quiet while all of this crap was going on. No one called the bush adm out for lying us into war and murdering over 4,000 of their own troops and wounding thousands more, not to mention the Iraqi’s that were killed and maimed! I understand none of them want to go down in history as the administration who lied us into an unnecessary war and was responsible for killing thousands and destroying a country! Guess what! It’s too late! You are responsible no matter how you white wash your part, no matter if you are very stupid or very immoral, you are responsible. You can’t commit crimes such as these and simply dismiss them by saying you were duped! You were put in your positions to keep America safe and KNOW what was going on. You let America and Americans down. Now you must pay the price even if it only means historians will record the truth.

  • Anonymous

    He does, however, look backwards when he is attempting to carry on failed economic policies of previous administrations.

  • Pelu Maad

    Powell is despicable. He knew exactly what was going in and played along.

  • Virgil Starkwell

    This is the same Colonel Wilkerson who once stated that, at best, there are approximately 1-2 dozen dangerous terrorists being held at Gitmo. The overwhelming majority are nobodies handed over to us by Aghans for a bounty. What has been done in our name over the last 10 years is a disgrace.

    The United States of America will never fully recover from the damage that has been done to our nation, which began on September 11, 2001.

    The real question is, who with the stature of a Colonel Wilkerson is willing to publicly state what actually occurred on that day?

  • Anonymous

    Cheney certainly wouldn’t want anyone to look any deeper, but….. first off before he was even elected cheney said the U.S. needs a pearl harbor. Bush said war is good for the country’s economy. I guess that could be a coincidence. We can’t suspect the bush adm. of killing their own people? Yet, they didn’t hesitate to send our own troops into an unnecessary war with Iraq to be killed and maimed. Not to mention what the invasion did to the Iraqi people and their country! And this is all based on lies. But we are asked to believe that 19 rag tag terrorist with BOX CUTTERS could commandeer planes filled with people who were willing to let these terrorists murder them all! Not with guns or bombs, but BOX CUTTERS!!!!! Right. This isn’t suspicious at all and bush and cheney would never kill their own country men for……..greed? Ya, these two are above reproach!
    I understand we need evidence to prosecute the involved parties, but nothing ventured nothing gained.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7Y77MFIPRIRTA6LYW5YJYKUHXY shinydoug

    I have 4 words to describe what needs to be done:
    Nuremberg Nooses for NeoCons!

  • Anonymous

    This is not news. Everyone knew Powell was Bush’s house negro.

  • Anonymous

    Colin Powell was ‘manipulated’ by Cheney
    If I am not mistaken this is called a ‘reach around’.
    Obviously Cheney felt something for his … victim.

  • Anonymous

    Lose the attitude. If you want to have an intelligent debate, fine. But I am a structural engineer with 30 years experience in NYC construction. I am no moron.

    First of all, your “free fall” analysis is completely erroneous. All close up tapes show the Towers fell at about half free fall speed. No surprise at all when you consider that the part that progressively collapsed (the Interior Space between Core and Perimeter) had no vertical columns whatsoever from grade to the roof. None. You had a horizontal span of trusses, and once they sagged at one level and the connections to core and perimeter columns were compromised, the weight above collapse point was far too much. Not one demo contractor in the entire world says that was a controlled demo. Not one. Also, when you look at video you can clearly see free fall debris WAY ahead of the collapse, so for 9/11 Truth to claim that it was at free fall speed is ludicrous and defies simple video evidence.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgKLhsthuUU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoOp40E6UZg

    And there was only a couple of seconds of “free fall” speed for WTC 7. That happened to be the open atrium area. Makes perfect sense. I have reviewed and studied the NIST report and it makes sense to me. Specifically what part do you take issue with? Thermal expansion is a common cause of structural failure. Why do you think expansion joints were invented? The building was hit with lots of debris, which ignited massive fires that are on tape and have been photographed. They don’t build them like they used to, and steel is VERY vulnerable to fire. Numerous NYFD people said they were pulling out of the building due to the inferno, and that it was probably going to collapse. They had a transit on the building. It was moving. There was a huge gash in the building too. This is all on video tape. Plus here is a simple question. Why would they not have demo’d Building 7 as soon as the debris hit it from the collapse? And here is another question. Are you saying that the people who “planned this” were able to calculate that debris would fall in exactly such a way that it would strike Building 7? What if that did not happen? How would they then have been able to blow up a building that had not been hit by debris that triggered fires?

    On “Stand Down’s”, you need to really understand the situation before making such an accusation. Plus, I find it amusing that people think the Pentagon was a “stand down”…..but then again the PA flight was “shot down”. No logic there.

    FACT: On 9/11 there were only 14 fighter jets on alert in the contiguous 48 states. No computer network or alarm automatically alerted the North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) of missing planes. “They [civilian Air Traffic Control, or ATC] had to pick up the phone and literally dial us,” says Maj. Douglas Martin, public affairs officer for NORAD. Boston Center, one of 22 Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regional ATC facilities, called NORAD’s Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) three times: at 8:37 am EST to inform NEADS that Flight 11 was hijacked; at 9:21 am to inform the agency, mistakenly, that Flight 11 was headed for Washington (the plane had hit the North Tower 35 minutes earlier); and at 9:41 am to (erroneously) identify Delta Air Lines Flight 1989 from Boston as a possible hijacking. The New York ATC called NEADS at 9:03 am to report that United Flight 175 had been hijacked — the same time the plane slammed into the South Tower. Within minutes of that first call from Boston Center, NEADS scrambled two F-15s from Otis Air Force Base in Falmouth, Mass., and three F-16s from Langley Air National Guard Base in Hampton, Va. None of the fighters got anywhere near the pirated planes.
    Why couldn’t ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes’ transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country’s busiest air corridors. And NORAD’s sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward. “It was like a doughnut,” Martin says. “There was no coverage in the middle.” Pre-9/11, flights originating in the States were not seen as threats and NORAD wasn’t prepared to track them.

    You mentioned explosions. I assume you meant the ones early on. Have you ever heard a transformer blow up? It sounds like an……explosion…. because it is. There was a 13,800 Volt Con Ed Substation below the Towers (where the explosions were heard). Yes, you bet there were explosions. Here is one:
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/transformer_explosion_rocks_chelsea_R9x6sMOZYIB2DTow9x2weM
    And that is just a small building and transformer. The infrastructure of WTC Towers was incredible. The Power requirements were huge. You has transformers all over the place. Electrical risers were severed in many areas. These were large risers with big cable. If you cut a simple feed to a home electrical panel you will get an explosion.
    And Plane 1 likely went into the Core, and MER equipment was dislodged and came down the elevator shafts and MEP chases, crashing down to the basement causing what would sound like huge explosions. The MEP infrastructure and associated equipment in those Towers was incredible. In fact, one fireman was quoted by 9/11 Truth as saying “I heard a series of explosions”. Of course 9/11 Truth left out the rest of the sentence (they edited it out) where he said “and then I turned around and saw that it was the floors crashing on top of each other”.

    Thermitic reactions are common in building fires. Especially when aluminum is involved. The plane had 22,000 pounds of Aluminum. The cladding for the building had several tons of aluminum .090″ (3/32″) thick. They reference 700 C as a temp, though likely it was hotter at the impact point. Nevertheless Aluminum melts at 550 C. And the thin cladding would easily melt.
    http://www.911myths.com/WTCTHERM.pdf
    Melted Aluminum causes thermite like reactions. It can also cause thermal reactions well in excess of the 700 C noted. The burning Aluminum has been estimated to be at 1800 C. The Editor of the Journal resigned due to the UNAUTHORIZED publishing if the paper. The paper is an embarrassment. It involves simple building materials somehow becoming “nanothermite”. The authors can’t even identify it,…..but they are sure of it. Coincidentally the paint for all the steel in the building is the same color as this “nanothermite”. Hysterical.
    Iron Melts
    http://www.debunking911.com/ironburns.htm
    And the spheres they discuss (which “conclusively” prove nanothermite) are present in welding and cutting. Gee, I wonder if there was any cutting and welding of steel during WTC construction? And I love the “we also found sulfur” thing. Yes, it is present in sheetrock, and many other materials in buildings…..but it couldn’t be from that. It must have been nanothermite….of a kind they can’t identify. These people are laughing stocks in their fields.

    Additionally the “nanothermite” chips matched the exact color of the fireproofing submittall for WTC. All other materials they mention are common building materials.
    And you do know they published the paper without authorization, yes? And that the Editor subsequently resigned calling the paper a joke, yes? These people did ZERO testing of reactions with molten aluminum with various building materials in the building, things that ALL have explosive type reactions with molten aluminum.
    http://www.opednews.com/articl

    Why didn’t the nanothermite detonate when the planes exploded? Herrit has now said he thinks conventional explosives were used as well. There were no explosions just prior to the collapse at that level. Even cell calls from a guy just at the collapse point indicate no noise whatsoever. And if there were explosives, why didn;t they detonate. Tell me this, specifically how was this done? What were the logistics? Did they wire every floor? 100 consecutive explosions with that kind of precision? Really? This thing is for Comic Books.

    Nanothermite, if you read about it, is VERY difficult to work with and not always reliable. If just one explosion was off, the whole plot is toast. Comic Book.
    Regarding molten metal
    http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm

    Even landfill fires can burn for years. Nothing uncommon about a pile of debris burning for months.
    http://www.elementshealthspace.com/2010/03/23/landfill-fire-in-paradise/

    9/11 “Truth” has told more lies than Dick Cheney.
    The Towers fell at near free fall is BS.
    They NEVER address that the core was still standing AFTER the collapse, in fact they say the core was blown up to facilitate collapse. Hmmm, then why was it still standing after the collapse?.
    They misquoted firefighters to the point of libel.
    They lied about the prosecution statement at the Massouis trial.
    They lied about Hani Hanjour’s flight instructor’s statements.
    They show the WRONG HOLE at the Pentagon to “prove” a plane could not have fit in it (they actually cropped the photo to hide the real hole).
    They lied when they said molten metal dripped from the floor where UPS was the Tenant. It was really the UPS system for the building (they can’t even read blueprints) so what you saw was battery lead and such.
    They NEVER discuss the Towers were tube in tube construction of the simplest kind. Completely symmetrical, yet they are “amazed” at a symmetrical collapse. That shows a very basic misunderstanding of engineering. In fact, there are only 29 structural engineers out of about 130,000 that are on 9/11 Truth. I have read their statements, and none of them seemed familiar with the nature of the construction of the building. In ALL fields you have a small percentage of people who may be nice people and all that, but are simply not too bright. May I remind you that George Bush studied Law at Yale….and he probably can’t spell Law or Yale.
    9/11 Truth lied about there being no airfones on the planes. Complete flat out lie.

    The Bush Admin did not want an investigation for 3 main reasons:
    1. Saudi Royal “money” ties were very embarrassing
    2. Paki ISI “logistical” ties were very embarrassing
    3. The Bush Admin was receiving numerous warning, some very specific, of impending attacks of this nature. You think they want those documents released? And why would Dick Cheney be giving himself warnings of his own attack? And I never said we did not need another 9/11 Investigation. My 3 points above need investigating. The lies and BS of 9/11 Truth do not. In fact, they make those calling for a new investigation look like lunatics. They need to stop their denial, and get with reality. But they are so far into it now that they feel they can’t back out. Most of them know they are wrong, but they won’t admit it. They are also selling a lot of books……..

    Also, if this was to justify the Iraq War, why did they not have a couple….or even just one…..of the hijackers be Iraqi? That would have been EASY. Instead, they had to cover up Saudi involvement and try to get Richard Clarke to say “Iraq did this”. Then they had to have a propaganda blitz. Why not just have a few guys from northern Iraq (Zarqawi’s guys) be on the planes with the Saudis? Would have been easy.

    And why have a plot that would involve thousands? A simple hijacking of about ten planes could have been done with a 20-30 people. You really think they met in a room and said “OK, how can we involve as many people as possible and also make this as complex as possible”?

    I’m no moron. I analyze things. I was very curious and eagerly looked at all 9/11 Truth’s things at first as I would love to nail the Bush Admin on “doing” 9/11. But then the facts got in the way. They certainly looked the other way and slashed all counter terror funding, etc. But there were not “controlled demos”, “missiles”, or “stand downs”.

  • Anonymous

    Powell is as guilty of war crimes. Bush knew he wasn’t being believed, so the threw the only person with any credibility, in to lie to the people. Powell knew he was lying to the UN Security Council.

  • Anonymous

    I just went in depth on this above. I don’t want to repost again and waste space. You are welcome to reply to that post as it pretty much addresses your post.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Aaaaah, poor little misguided war criminal. It wasn’t his fault after all. Big bad Dickless Cheney made him do it. Oh, well, I guess all is forgiven and forgotten then. Give this man a Nobel Piss Prize.

  • Anonymous

    …He gets a pass by some liberals because he is black…”white mans guilt complex” even though his antecedent is Jamaican.. It’s time we get pass this and judge people by their character like Dr King advocated. Powell is a damn worthless criminal like all his other conspirators: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld etal.If not jail, then hell.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Guilty by association. I agree.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Burning Bush. Another Buybull prophecy coming true.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    I rather suspect is the same reason why they give Obama a pass and all the atrocities he commits. You know that get out of jail free race card thingie?

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Except for the Reich Wing-deployed army of trolls who hard at work trying to change public perception on the internet.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    “We”? Define “we”? And, please, don’t include me in that group, I wasn’t duped. I knew. But then again, I was called paranoid, anti-Amerikan, hateful, terrorist lover and blah blah blah by those who bought the lie hook, line & sinker.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Pssst…pssst… They weren’t elected. They were appointed. And then, they stole the second round.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Seems like black democrats ain’t much better.

  • Anonymous

    OK Can we start the prosecutions now?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Powell lied, Rumsfeld lied, Cheney lied, and they all lied about 911. They love war and they want more of it.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/JVXBKWFNOJA37XVQPZRXYZUMF4 Donna

    Powell along with the rest of the bush and obama regimes are war criminals and until “we the people” do something to hold these criminals accountable this will continue. How many more must die before these people are held accountable?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Iran is building a BOMB!
    Booga Booga!
    Must defend ickle-little Israel from Iran!
    Would we lie to you?
    (“anonymous” Whitehouse leaker)

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    In America, jail is for the “little people”. Doesn’t even matter if they’ve harmed another.

  • Anonymous

    …and the tories “scrub” wikipedia, daily.

  • Anonymous

    ….errr, did someone run their finger around the edge of a crystal wine glass to bring down Building 7?

  • Anonymous

    No, why do you ask? Did you have problems reading and comprehending the NIST report. Plus I addressed that in my post. I guess you did not actually read it, or can’t comprehend it perhaps So answer for me:

    Why would they not have demo’d Building 7 as soon as the debris hit it from the collapse, and instead wait for 5 or 6 hours? What was the point of that if this was planned?

    Are you saying that the people who “planned this” were able to calculate that debris would fall in exactly such a way that it would strike Building 7? What if that did not happen? How would they then have been able to blow up a building that had not been hit by debris that triggered fires? Answer that please?

    Are you saying that the entire NYFD made up their statements (and there were many) about the damage and the fires? They did not have a transit on the building and monitored movement? They did not hear “creaking”? They did not evacuate the building and say it would likely collapse? All this was made up? Really? The “planners” decided to get NYFD involved instead of just blowing up the building when it was impacted by debris?

    What of the ABC video showing the huge gash almost the entire side of the building? Made up? All the photos of the fires? Made up? Really?

    The videos taken by NYFD guys with their comments about how bad the fires were? This was made up too?

    So what is your “theory”? That Dick Cheney is an a-hole (which everyone already knows), so that means WTC was a controlled demolition? Do you have an actual analysis of how this was done?

  • Anonymous

    What? You have it backwards jon boy, it’s Republicans that truly know atrocities!!! Anywhere there is brown people republicans want to squash them…they seem only to pretend to like the “yes massa” types like Clarence Thomas and Colin Powell.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Oh, I am so sorry. I do apologize for that mix up. I forgot for a moment that Obama is a good guy. After all, it’s not as if he didn’t win a Nobel Piss Prize for droning Pakistanis and Yemenis, for murdering more Iraqis and Afghans, for supporting more dictators, for vetoing UN Resolutions against Israel’s Apartheid and genocide policies. And if for nothing else, his acceptance speech of the Prize calling for more war was, in itself, worth of a price.

    Again, my apologies.

  • Anonymous

    And the democrats refuse to pursue war crimes charges against these devils

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2E5CLP6SM4L2CIPENA7ZCSXVPA TimS

    If Colin Powell was nothing more than an average citizen, he would be charged by indictment that directly or indirectly he violated the laws of the United States according to 18 USC 371 and 18 USC 2, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. His ex aid is nothing less than a shill ! Ask anyone else that has been charged with any of these offenses…its a favorite and known by the DOJ as “darling” offenses that are easily charged, prosecuted, and in most cases guilty verdicts are returned. Not for one moment can I believe that Mr. Powell could be that naive.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry Colin. You’re a big boy and your song and dance is not getting you off war criminal charges. I wonder, help me Colin, how do you say “war criminal” in Yiddish? If you don’t know, ask your handlers.

  • Anon 7777

    Mr. Powell you worked hard to cover up the disgusting My Lai Massacre and then you lied to get us into a war that has cost the lives of millions of Iraqi men women and children. This war is also casting millions of american families in this country into poverty

    You are a coward, a war criminal and when the Justice and/or Revolution comes it will come for you.

    Come you masters of war
    You that build all the guns
    You that build the death planes
    You that build all the bombs
    You that hide behind walls
    You that hide behind desks
    I just want you to know
    I can see through your masks.

    You that never done nothin’
    But build to destroy
    You play with my world
    Like it’s your little toy
    You put a gun in my hand
    And you hide from my eyes
    And you turn and run farther
    When the fast bullets fly.

    Like Judas of old
    You lie and deceive
    A world war can be won
    You want me to believe
    But I see through your eyes
    And I see through your brain
    Like I see through the water
    That runs down my drain.

    You fasten all the triggers
    For the others to fire
    Then you set back and watch
    When the death count gets higher
    You hide in your mansion’
    As young people’s blood
    Flows out of their bodies
    And is buried in the mud.

    You’ve thrown the worst fear
    That can ever be hurled
    Fear to bring children
    Into the world
    For threatening my baby
    Unborn and unnamed
    You ain’t worth the blood
    That runs in your veins.

    How much do I know
    To talk out of turn
    You might say that I’m young
    You might say I’m unlearned
    But there’s one thing I know
    Though I’m younger than you
    That even Jesus would never
    Forgive what you do.

    Let me ask you one question
    Is your money that good
    Will it buy you forgiveness
    Do you think that it could
    I think you will find
    When your death takes its toll
    All the money you made
    Will never buy back your soul.

    And I hope that you die
    And your death’ll come soon
    I will follow your casket
    In the pale afternoon
    And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
    Down to your deathbed
    And I’ll stand over your grave
    ‘Til I’m sure that you’re dead.

  • Anonymous

    This is a very good observation and the same questions I have been asking myself for a long time now. The only thing that makes sense is we are a nation under occupation by criminal cabal controlled by the oligarchs and their neocon two passport carrying minion administrators.

    Both sides of the aisle of Congress are in collusion with the torture, secret prisons, and illegal wars. The courts are lame too.

    Change is going to have to come from the outside pressing in.

    Come March 1st, if the U.S. does not begin prosecution of the war criminals they are now harboring, these criminals will then fall under “Universal Jurisdiction.” If they step on an international flight, or go to a foreign country, they can and will be arrested and prosecuted. Already there are multi-million dollar rewards established for the capture and arrest of the notorious neocons.

    The ones that OK’d torture of children in front of the parents consisting of a rape using a stick dipped in battery acid. Likewise these criminals OK’d the crushing of testicles with the use of pliers in front of the parents as well. Now Bush, Cheney, Rice, Feith, Yoo, and yes Colin are just a few and if this is their disposition, it’s not a far stretch to link them to military grade nano thermate in the 911 dust and it being an inside job..

    Congress does nothing because they are in collusion with the war crimes. They are all making great money. Nancy Pelosi’s husband is making big money through government contracts as is Diane Feinstein’s hubby. It is just one big theft-fest.

    Recently reports came out from the Vatican Bank that discovered secret accounts in the names of Congressional members funded by the U.S. Treasury. The report also included Supreme Court Judge Roberts having the largest slush fund totaling over a billion dollars. Naturally, the powers that be got them shut up because there has been no word since the initial report.

    We are dealing with a criminal mafia that makes the Italian mafia look like girl scouts on a cookie sale heist.

    Recently a former CIA director remarked about the Tea Party. He said wait until they get to Washington DC and they will change their tune because they have not been “co-oped” yet.

    Yes, change has got to come from the outside in. The allies of Europe owe the Patriots a favor, and we are calling the chit in.

  • Anonymous

    Even I knew that the Bush/Cheney criminal cartel was lying about Iraq. Powell was a willing dupe, an uncle Tom to be polite, just following orders.

  • Elim

    What a bunch of bullshit! Powell knew what he was given to read was a bunch of lies before he went out in front of the UN assembly and read it! He looked at the speech and said, “I’m not reading this! It’s a bunch of bullshit!” So between that and reading the bullshit, he was threatened, or promised something he couldn’t say ‘no’ to. Powell doesn’t deserve to be let off the hook, either. He is a disgrace, as much as the rest of the Bush/Cheney crime syndicate.

  • Anonymous

    Yep

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