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DEA to legalize marijuana only for ‘Big Pharma,’ NORML claims

By Eric W. Dolan
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 20:33 EDT
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A Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) proposal to reclassify the main psychoactive chemical in marijuana as a Schedule III substance would allow pharmaceutical companies to market the drug while still penalizing common recreational use, according to marijuana law reform advocates.

The main psychoactive chemical in marijuana, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), is currently a Schedule I substance within the US Controlled Substances Act, the most restrictive schedule with the greatest criminal penalties.

In November 2010, the DEA proposed reclassifying dronabinol, a synthetic THC, as a Schedule III substance, which would place it among substances such as hydrocodone and allow it to be dispensed with a written or oral prescription.

“The DEA’s intent is to expand the federal government’s schedule III listing to include pharmaceutical products containing naturally derived formations of THC while simultaneously maintain existing criminal prohibitions on the plant itself,” Paul Armentano, the deputy director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), wrote at AlterNet.

With its proposal, the DEA is responding to the demands of large pharmaceutical companies, he claimed.

Marijuana plants and THC extracts would remain illegal under the proposal, but companies would be able to purchase THC from a government-licensed provider to develop pharmaceutical products.

“While the DEA’s forthcoming regulatory change promises to stimulate the advent of legally available, natural THC therapeutic products… the change will offer no legal relief for those hundreds of thousands of Americans who believe that therapeutic relief is best obtained by use of the whole plant itself,” Armentano added.

“Rather the DEA appears content to try to walk a political and semantic tightrope that alleges: ‘pot is bad,’ but ‘pot-derived pharmaceuticals are good.’”

THC can help cancer patients regain their appetites and sense of taste, according to a study published on Wednesday.

“This is the first randomized controlled trial to show that THC makes food taste better and improves appetites for patients with advanced cancer, as well as helping them to sleep and to relax better,” Dr. Wendy Wismer, associate professor at the University of Alberta, said. “Our findings are important, as there is no accepted treatment for chemosensory alterations experienced by cancer patients.”

Fifteen states and the District of Columbia have passed legislation to legalize the medical use of marijuana.

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Eric W. Dolan
Eric W. Dolan
Eric W. Dolan has served as an editor for Raw Story since August 2010, and is based out of Sacramento, California. He grew up in the suburbs of Chicago and received a Bachelor of Science from Bradley University. Eric is also the publisher and editor of PsyPost. You can follow him on Twitter @ewdolan.
 
 
 
 
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  • gypski®

    Proves how we are being dealt with by a double dealing, double talking, lying government and government agencies. Not counting our supposed representatives.

  • Anonymous

    Man, they really like sticking it to us, don’t they?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYSO4QKTV4W5DVINPB3RWGLJB4 GregJ

    The one thing that sucks about marijuana is the lack of side effects. I’m sure Pharma can tackle that problem post haste.

  • Anonymous

    Good news! If you can get past “evil pharma” getting a spot at the legalization table.

  • Anonymous

    Now here’s a job killing proposal if there ever was one.

  • Anonymous

    The problem with Pharmaceutical derivatives is they are trying to isolate the compound that stops nausea and stimulates hunger so they can eliminate the euphoria part, god knows they wouldnt want any cancer patients feeling hungry AND happy, but they can’t, they dont know why marijuana makes you hungry, but they dont really know how most drugs work, they just know that most of the time if a human takes this chemical then this usually happens, most of the rest is guessing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EZ4W5CDCIVXKIIKESYBN2EP6VE brian

    Thank you. I am a microbiologist and my buds who are in pharma tell me how they do their experimentation, and you nailed it. Pharma doesn’t care about why, whereas academia does. Pharma just cares about what. What they can sell

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    I am so happy for Big-Pharm…..now with pot in their tray….they can prescribe it for huge money (with great packaging) and charge you from a** to elbow for what you could raise free in your own flowerpot! This is Big Change.

  • Anonymous

    Great….here comes the Monsanto GM weed.

  • Anonymous

    “May cause rectal bleeding”.

  • cannotvote

    Simply no!

  • Anonymous

    Government of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations.

    Reagan = Bush = Clinton = Bush = Obama = corporate lackey

  • nycplayboy78

    2-Faced Fucks!!!!

    War on Drugs my ass!!!!

    If the Corporate Masters want it then so be it but let the little guy have…All Hell breaks loose!!!!

  • nomentiro$o

    Lies that kill.

  • Spire

    They put chilis in it?? How dare they!

  • Spire

    The greatest plant in the world is illegal.
    How do you spell assholes? D.E.A.

  • Anonymous

    I have been in pharma marketing for almost 20 years.

    The fact that if you just TELL someone they are taking a pill that will make them get better, even if you dont, they get better almost as much as if they take the drug, this drives Pharma NUTS!

  • http://www.sinuousmag.com/ theComplex

    This is NOT progress… smh.

  • Anonymous

    If you feel very depressed, suicidal, or have a sudden compulsive desire to hack the neighbors to death with a machete, call your doctor immediately.

  • Anonymous

    From the DEA’s own freakin site man!

    http://www.justice.gov/dea/ongoing/marijuana.html

    Marijuana: The Facts

    Q. Does marijuana have any medical value?

    * Any determination of a drug’s valid medical use must be based on the best available science undertaken by medical professionals. The Institute of Medicine conducted a comprehensive study in 1999 to assess the potential health benefits of marijuana and its constituent cannabinoids. The study concluded that smoking marijuana is not recommended for the treatment of any disease condition. In addition, there are more effective medications currently available.

  • Anonymous

    ‘pot is bad,’ but ‘pot-derived pharmaceuticals are good.’”

    They’ll never be able to successfully spin this. Not even to the basest of the monkeys.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GQQIJ5U6H3BDGSXIMPCJSHHUPY Pee Pee

    WHAT? OUR GOVERNMENT WILL CONTINUE TO TREAT US LIKE FUCKING COWS?

    SHOCKING

  • CaptainHowdy

    They will change it soon enough. Most pharmaceuticals are garbage and don’t work anyway.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GQQIJ5U6H3BDGSXIMPCJSHHUPY Pee Pee

    Try our new brownie sleepy cakes. Pure, natural THC from primo weed blended with delicious brownie batter. And fiber glass.

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    THEY WILL AS LONG AS WE KEEP MOOING!…..

  • Anonymous

    I swear to christ I despise “big pharma”. And who the fuck are these people telling us we can’t smoke a stinkin’ weed if we want to.

  • Anonymous

    The only logical move is to keep designing our lives to completely exclude the elite level of corporate/governmental parasites.

  • Anonymous

    That’s probably more a result of being put in prison, an all-too common side effect of marijuana use.

  • Anonymous

    That’s a side effect from a DEA interrogation

  • Anonymous

    It’s only OK if PHARMA can make a big profit from it!

  • Anonymous

    Monopoly was always my least favorite game to play.

  • Taleisin

    ‘TREAT US LIKE FUCKING COWS’.
    only if you take the pills and don’t eat the grass.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PCHLMPBJKYTW3LJBHZEZMO3TXQ What Ever

    Corporate America strikes yet again.

  • Anonymous

    Reading this article gave me a pounding sensation in my backside. Wierd.

  • Anonymous

    Why can’t the US legalize drugs? There’s ‘too much money in it,’ Clinton says

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/07/clinton-legalize-drugs-too-much-money/

  • Taleisin

    There is so much money going to waste that should be going into the pockets of pharmaceuticals.
    Chemicals are good, nature is bad umkay! ;)

  • Anonymous

    Will they sell brownies, lolipops or blunts?

  • Anonymous

    All these agencies exist to keep the status quo. They are working for the rich, keeping them on top and the rest of us on the bottom. Big Pharma spreads a lot of fertilizer in the form of money, and they get a bumper yield of government help. The government is owned by the wealthy corporations, and specifically their billionaire owners. So basically we have a government for the highest bidders. It is king of the hill, a global class war.

  • Anonymous

    People are going to smoke it whether it’s legal or not. The DEA thinks this will put them in control? They’re sorely outnumbered and lost the war long ago. What are they going to do? Arrest all of us? Only in America can you find such stupidity. It’s a PLANT, not a “substance”. The Good Lord put the PLANT on this earth but the DEA doesn’t like that because the pharmaceutical companies they’re in bed with can’t make a profit on a weed that grows naturally and is enjoyed in its purist form, not manufactured like the chemical crap they pass off as “legitimate” medication. You know, like the stuff that is advertised all day and all night on your television 24/7. So greedy for the almighty buck they are and fearful they will lose out. They’re the ones who need to smoke it most of all.

  • BuzzCoastin

    When al-Gaddafi falls will the DEA and its thugs go with him?

  • Anonymous

    And graze only on totally unregulated Roundup Ready ™ alfalfa, corn and wheat!

  • Anonymous

    Um, they don’t *need* to spin it. They don’t care what you think about it.

  • Anonymous

    Hey! The placebo effect works for comments, too! Tell someone they’re reading something deep and they’ll believe it…

  • Anonymous

    Big Pharma wants their piece of the medical marijuana market and next, states can repeal their medical mj laws and say look, patients can now get it from Sanofi at CVS, no more hippie stores.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t wait for the commercials!

  • Anonymous

    My health plan doesn’t cover that last one.

  • Anonymous

    You know my eyes are hurting from looking into my computer screen as I edit my film. It must be glaucoma and I am sure there will be an upsurge in eye problems in this day and age. Now I just need a prescription.

    In reality this is another piece of bs put forth by a government who only looks after the well-being of corporations’ bottom lines. My eyes are really strained from reading about regulations like this.

  • Anonymous

    Is Discus trolled by trolls? Probably. I joined in this conversation earlier today and cannot find my post now. How do we find out what happened to our disappeared postings?

  • Anonymous

    And once again (and again, and again …), the “conspiracy” theories of the left turn out to be the reality.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3CO7EDEIVXRO47OAWUBUUBJXA Textynn Textynn

    yeah my post is toast also

  • http://www.BaltimoreGreenCurrency.org Shrapnel

    The Ministry of Silly Walks would be a better use of tax dollars.

  • Anonymous

    This is exactly what I said would happen when everyone was cheering the referendums and measures to legalize M.J.. Only the corporations will be allowed, by hook or crook, to produce and profit from it.

    Just admit it. The Democrats are as corrupt as the Republicans. Everyday they prove it with one issue after another.

  • Anonymous

    Big Pharma makes money on PATENTS. So, we have synthetics—lab created, not a NATURALLY occurring substance found in nature—which they cannot place a PATENT ON. Thus we have fake horse-urine hormones for women that make us crazy because—these hormones are not naturally occurring and our physiology has no idea how to handle them. How could big Pharma ever co-opt a naturally occurring substance like the Cannibis plant? By making synthetics. Time to shut down a system so corrupt.

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ Mark (MarkusGarvey) Estrada

    i don’t see anything that is being held for moderation or deleted. Last post is 5 hrs ago.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/U33JNON74IRYBMALTP6ROSP5WQ C

    The DEA is corrupt with Big Pharma. Doesn’t that look pretty? They want all the money. This is why Americans need to overthrow the Federal Government. They really think they are unstoppable. The CIA and FBI, all CROOKS!

  • Anonymous

    The fact is, Federal marijuana prohibition is illegal! When alcohol was prohibited at the Federal level, that required an amendment to the US Constitution because the Constitution gives NO authority to the Federal Government to regulate drug use! There has been no amendment allowing marijuana prohibition!

    Judge Andrew Napolitano: “Ignoring the Constitution” 17 Constitutional powers
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gfDwx9H_rA&feature=player_embedded
    (This guy needs to be sitting on the Supreme Court and Ron Paul belongs in the White House!)

    “The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution.”
    Thomas Jefferson

    “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” – Thomas Jefferson.

    ‘If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.’ ~Thomas Jefferson

    Here’s an example of what happens when We The People allow Government to ignore the Constitution and get out of control: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/video-outrage-utah-police-kill-marijuana-smoker-in-own-home

    The movement doesn’t need to cave and opt for ridiculous restrictions, regulations and taxes. It’s already been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that, if necessary, the so called “dumb, lazy, crazy, unmotivated, potheads” will find a way to get their herb, untaxed, unrestricted and unregulated, even if uncle SHAM declares an unconstitutional violent war on them and keeps it going for 40 years… not too shabby for a bunch of “lazy dummies”. I read an article the other day about people flying pot into prison on carrier pigeons! There’s a multi-million dollar annual marijuana trade INSIDE the prison system! One guy I read about gets busted on purpose because he can make so much more money selling pot in prison than he can on the street! Marijuana prohibition is closer to the free market system that made this Country great (back before the banksters got in control) than the communist/socialist system the DEA and the pharmaceutical companies are trying to ram down our throats.

    This will be the only war uncle SHAM ever lost on the home field and a bunch of “dumb potheads” will win, imagine that! Which brings a tune to mind that everyone should listen to at least once… ESPECIALLY THE PROHIBITIONISTS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_u-VFdd8_k Okay two songs: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/880bb91cb1/devil-went-to-ja …and a cop story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW5trBzVAzE&feature=player_em …and a great report about a major eradication operation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_hrR_oDlGU

    MARIJUANA AND HEMP THE UNTOLD STORY, Thomas J. Bouril, WHY IS MARIJUANA ILLEGAL, Pete Guither and the free online book: The Emperor Wears No Clothes, The Authoritative Historical Record of Cannabis and The Conspiracy Against Marijuana. Click the links to those titles on this webpage:
    Internet Explorer web browser: http://jsknow.angelfire.com/home
    All Other Browsers: http://jsknow.angelfire.com/index.html

    If you think marijuana prohibition has anything to do with the imaginary, false, fabricated, alleged harms from using marijuana as a recreational drug, YOU HAVE BEEN DUPED!

    From: http://www.jackherer.com/thebook/chapter-six/
    “Eli Lilly, Pfizer and others stand to lose at least a third of their entire, highly profitable, patent monopoly on such drugs as Darvon, Tuinal, Seconal, and Prozac (as well as other patented medications ranging from muscle ointments to burn ointments, to thousands of other products) because of a plant anyone can grow: cannabis hemp.

    Isn’t it curious that American drug companies and pharmacist groups supply almost half the funding for the 4,000 Families Against Marijuana type organizations in America? The other half is supplied by Action (a federal VISTA agency) and by tobacco companies like Philip Morris, and by liquor and beer makers like Anheuser Busch, Coors, etc., or as a public service by the ad agencies that represent them. End quote.

    Simply stated, the Federal Government is conspiring with pharmaceutical companies, alcohol companies and tobacco companies and is using unconstitutional Federal marijuana prohibition laws to insure that you needlessly buy products that have been proven beyond any shadow of doubt to be harmful and often deadly, instead of allowing you to legally grow and/or buy a nontoxic plant that is safe and effective. Meanwhile uncle SHAM forces unconstitutional healthcare legislation on you and threatens to severely punish you if you don’t buy mandatory health insurance.

  • Tio Holtzman

    Everything is a business model.

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ hounddogg

    i feel you, but it’s not a good idea to threaten to overthrow the govt on teh internetz…just sayin..,.

  • enorceht

    just rubbing your eyes and waking up, are we ? they’ve been doing it for years, and it’s been about way more than just pot. and why they would think i would choose to go to the pharmy instead of the farmy is beyond me. they are the ultimate downer, no prescription necessary

  • irrumabo

    This would deal a big blow to legalization efforts. With new scheduling would possession become a felony, i.e. possession of a controlled substance without a prescription? Also, would manufacture become trademark infringement? The govt agencies are really butthurt about weed ever becoming legal. I agree with the poster who wrote that big pharma will synthesize the entire drug and make sure that nobody ever ever ever feels the euphoric side effect. Bad humans wanna get stoned!

  • Anonymous

    Click on your name, then activity, and then look and see what’s there.

  • Anonymous

    What’s the problem? Does big money run this motherfucker or not?

  • Praxman

    Oh well…another ‘go slow’ strategy pays off for the Bigs courtesy of the fake fucking Left and the Mob!

    Now…can we dispense with the medicinal horseshit where sick people are forced to submit health information to drug dealers that can easily be busted at anytime by the State and their drug dealers.

    Let’s get busy LEGALIZING IT!!!

    Fuck the State and their Patsy Left Drug Dealers telling the people to GO SLOW!!!!

  • Anonymous

    doesn’t big pharma already have this… marinol i think its called
    what abull shit drug that is …doesn’t do anything… but it has killed 4 (four) people
    dea worthless another let down by a government that will not listen to the people

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVVWWLPURAXP7HJS7CQXVKBTWM IanD

    What does this mean about drug tests? I have government mandated drug tests, if I get a prescription for this, wouldn’t it show up as marijuana?

    It does show the hypocrisy, but I can’t act like making THC legal on the national scale is a bad thing.

    Maybe if I manage to get a prescription I could go back to my love mary jane.

  • Anonymous

    jsknow for President!

  • Anonymous

    Bullsh#t. Just another handout, so they can find a way to poison us with PHAMA THC drugs then profit from our new illness. Same shit, different day.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently THC needs the Cannabinoids to balance out. Failure to incorporate these significantly reduces and even negates efficacy, in fact the Cannabinoids are likely to be effective in medical applications on their own http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid.
    In fact the DEA approval in this manner seems to indicate that they and the Pharmaceutical industry do want side affects and specifically do want to reduce efficacy in order to extend out medication and increace profits and by hook or by crook put a patent on it and up the price by a factor of 1000.

  • Anonymous

    WANTED: For “MANUFACTURING” and “TRAFFICKING MARIJUANA” in an “ELABORATE SOPHISTICATED WORLDWIDE GROW and DISTRIBUTION OPERATION”:
    GOD
    Claims to have created everything, including marijuana!
    We have evidence in writing:
    “And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.”, Genesis 1:29 KJV Holy Bible
    Also wanted as person of interest and co-conspirator:
    JESUS CHRIST
    Claims to be the son of GOD! A religious cult leader, sought for interview regarding knowledge of Father’s illegal drug activities. Already nailed to the cross once, credible reports from over 500 eye-witnesses claim He has risen from the dead.
    Report all information to: 1-800-POLICESTATE

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Who the fuck needs “synthetic THC” when it grows wild in the ditch faster than grass?

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Of course. Monsanto is on it.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Which one, calling your doctor?

  • Anonymous

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, DERIVING THEIR JUST POWERS FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED —

    That WHENEVER ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT BECOMES DESTRUCTIVE OF THESE ENDS, it is the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to ALTER OR ABOLISH IT, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. BUT WHEN A LONG TRAIN OF ABUSES AND USURPATIONS, pursuing invariably the same Object EVINCES A DESIGN TO REDUCE THEM UNDER ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM, IT IS THEIR RIGHT, IT IS THEIR DUTY, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    DEA, the 17th “intelligence” organization.

  • Anonymous

    i feel you, but it’s not a good idea to threaten to overthrow the govt on teh internetz…just sayin..,.

    That’s sage advise but I think you may be just a tick too late with it.

    On a side note, I’d like to welcome “Chuck” in cubicle 46 C at NSA headquarters to the conversation. Chuck is a Pisces, enjoys boating, video games, Italian food, and college basketball. He’s gained a few extra around the middle, but he’s working on it. He’ll be listening in on everything, but don’t worry. He just doesn’t care anymore. However while he may be personally indifferent, he is obliged to make his report.

    Any content posted by this user is purely fictitious and for entertainment purposes only. The character known as “fabmurphy” is a non-existent fiction of cyberspace and all text appearing in it’s name does not in any way reflect the opinions of the flesh-and-blood human(s) that enter said text.

  • Anonymous

    Put Ron Paul in the Whitehouse in 2012 or sooner! Search his name on youtube and listen to what he has to say straight from his own mouth! He represents We The people and the Constitution better than ANY Federal representative we have!

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    LOL Any swelling?

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Implant.

  • ThatBostonMan

    I can live with this. It’s not as good as legalization, but decriminalization and medicalized marijuana would be fine. It’s a medicine anyway and probably should be treated that way. Just as long as people aren’t forced to take pills and shit to take the medicine.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Absolutely. Just say tobacco products, the world’s first drug exclusively engineered to provide no other result but mass addiction.

  • ThatBostonMan

    And that is the problem. They want to synthesize and fuck with it.

    All the DEA has to do to change their bad public image on this is to just support medical marijuana nation wide. Legalize medical marijuana nation wide. Not just the THC, but the plant itself. If Big Pharma wants to sell seeds or plants I’m fine with it as long as the process for developing it is organic and natural and not some K2 Spice type shit.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    I admit it. Only difference is the Crats’ assaults on democracy tend to be stealthy and weaselly while the Repugs tend to go loud, ignorant and full frontal. See union busting.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Agreed

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Doubt it, cause it just ain’t.

  • Anonymous

    I smell a government sponsored weed monopoly…..

  • DriveBy

    Like Carlin said, pot will be legal if Big Pharma can find a way to monopolize and then profit off the sale and distribution of marijuana.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVVWWLPURAXP7HJS7CQXVKBTWM IanD

    It ain’t what? drug tests test for THC, if I’m taking THC in pill form, how would that not show up in Drug Tests? If I have a prescription they can say shit.

    I for one, am happy about this. I won’t be satisfied until I can get pot at the store, but this is at least, a loosening of the scheduling, which isn’t a bad thing.

  • Anonymous

    They always put the cool commercials out a few months before the lawyers start looking for people that have been hurt or killed by what was billed as a wonder drug… with a long list of side effects.

    Sooner or later the’ll catch on to the fact that everyone that wants pot is already getting the real thing and there’s nothing they can synthesize that works better than the all natural plant!

  • Anonymous

    This is called sophistry. SMOKING marijuana is not recommended for the treatment of any disease condition. Wanna know why? Because vaporizers and ingestion are the preferred methods for treatment.

    Don’t fall for the deception.

  • Anonymous

    “The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.” Abraham Lincoln

  • Anonymous

    thats the biggest double standard ever. but I forgot, according to the supreme court corporations count as individual citizens.

  • Anonymous

    The FDA has proven itself to be a corrupt and dangerous organisation. The managers of this agency routinely approve drugs which their own scientists have stated are both life threatening and ineffective. They serve as the lap dogs and henchmen for the drug companies against the alternative medicine and health food industries. It is common for their officials to take jobs in Pharma as a pay back for their services to pharma when they leave the agency.

  • Anonymous

    Actually this makes sense. Take the illicit drugs from one criminal organisation and give it to another one. Both seek to addict their customers to destructive substances. When is the last time pharma has created a drug that actually cures anything? Their strategy, like the traffickers, is to sell chemicals that must be taken every day for the rest of one’s life, not to develop pharmaceuticals that cure diseases one and for all.

  • Anonymous

    Caution: Leads to heroin. Causes short term memory loss. Makes white women dance with negroes while listening to Satanic music. May cause more brain damage than an atomic bomb at Bikini Island. Discontinue use if you experience murder, insanity, or death.

  • http://twitter.com/Tboy91 Thomas White

    So wait, I can now buy from a guy, and get arrested in under a minute, FUCKING AWESOME. Go waste your time else where people have a life to live your fucks.

  • http://twitter.com/Tboy91 Thomas White

    They aren’t gonna change it ROFL XD. Go to their “Medical Marijuana Myths” they just state blatant opinions, and over half the shit has not citation what so ever XD. They are a joke, how they have became so huge is head scratching at the least.

  • ThatBostonMan
  • http://gaia-health.com/ Heidi Stevenson

    Wow! We really needed that – a double blind study to prove that marijuana makes food improves the appetite. I wonder how much that cost?

  • Anonymous

    It’s a small step… bought and paid for by corporations.

  • Anonymous

    Sure, why not give pharmas health food, vitamins, organic produce, clean water, exercise and the rest according to your thinking.

  • ThatBostonMan

    That other stuff is legal. You aren’t committing a felony when you buy vitamins. The feds wont raid you for having vitamins.

  • ThatBostonMan

    The guns are the law. Thus gun control!

    Liberals must be banned from owning guns.

  • Anonymous

    The government has a fine line to walk: they want to be able to sell the nausea relief aspect, but if they allowed the sale of hash oil the cancer itself would die, and with it their cash cow. It looks to me like they’re starting down a slippery slope – once they allow a cure for nausea and insomnia they probably won’t be able to hold back the cure for cancer, and although a Nobel Prize is nice and all that, the million bucks that come with it are mere peanuts beside the zillions they can extort while peddling their systemic poisons. Just legalize it, then vaporize it!

  • http://smugmug.com/other/anoceanapart Maheanuu

    For over 12 thousand years Pot has been a total part of our lives in many many ways and now you want to give over this plant that has more uses than anything that any corporation has ever developed and let they run with the profits.. Fuck this, I will grow and use my own and not give a fucking red cent to these rip off sons of bitches… You can Obey all you want, but I an not willing to be a citizen of the Obey Government because they know what is good for you especially when they take their marching orders from the corporations, and the churches… Perhaps if you might try to think for once, but again I forgot that you are an american/

  • Anonymous

    But they might make some headway with the “four legs good, two legs better” crowd.

  • Anonymous

    Roll out the guillotines !

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1046573071 Matt Mosley

    It was only a matter of time before they thought of this.

    GOVERNMENT SHILLS: “It’s not a crime when Big Pharma criminals do it”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ODHDTSN5TFE24TZS22LJWXHO6I Rash Lameballs

    Hey,you stole that from one of my many posts.Great.Keep spreading the word.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Once again, the Obama administration tries to unjustly enrich its backers in the Medical Industrial Complex.
    Force all the dope users to buy corporo-patented bs instead of growing their own…

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    You will be committing a felony when you buy vitamins if the Federal govt gets its way.
    Then you will urge people to obey the law and pay 50 times as much for something not even half as useful.

    Just because its a law, doesn’t mean its just. Disobedience is the foundation of revolution.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Because we have One Party in the USA today. The Big Business Party.

  • Anonymous

    There are no scientific reasons to keep it prohibited.

    Any government continuing to prohibit marijuana while alcohol remains legal should be regarded as corrupt and in need of replacement.

  • Stephen Martin

    I think organic, green, real, is the way to go. Anything synthetic is the antithesis of what medical marijuana should be. Big pharma is like having a white middle class man in a suit proclaim he’s the hottest club DJ in town.
    Who u kiddin?

  • Balthazars Rebellion

    “There is just too much money in it,” Clinton (twat) said. “You can legalize small amounts for possession, but those who are making so much money …blah blah.
    Ohhhh, I get it! That’s Big Fucking Pharmas slice of the pie…Hell..it’s the whole fucking PIE! All marajuana money goes to Big Fucking Pharma…NOT a hard working AMERICAN Farmer Noooooooo! It ALL goes to the globalist PIGS and it stays illegal for the people. WE. CAN”T. HAVE. THE. MONNNNEY!

  • Anonymous

    yes, and the DEA doesn’t even admit that it gives you the munchies …… denial is a terrible thing to waste

  • Anonymous

    well you know it causes brain damage when you strap a mask on amonkey and give them smoke for 5 minutes straight …. typical government marijuana research ….

    or is that brain damage from asphixyiation … we all know ..and its not the pot

  • Anonymous

    so THC is schedule 3, cannabis is schedule 1…. isnt thc the reason cannabis is schedule 1 because without it, YOU WOULDNT GET HIGH i just dont get it

  • Anonymous

    no doubt, they can just susituite a needle for the tabacco and inject the liquid nicotine spray (they spray on tabacco) dose right in your ass …..

  • Anonymous

    the sad truth is the market for industrial and commercial uses of marijuana just google marijuana and popular mechanics

  • Anonymous

    A plant which God made is criminalized and a synthetic drug made for profit by big Pharma is okay. And what is that about God’s house should not be a market place?

    Corporations a state legal creation is a person and has more rights than the man God created.

    Is everyone seeing a picture here? Conservatives are creating a world where they are telling God that his creations are unholy and that Conservative creations are holy an pure.

    Look at our Coporation more person, more holy than the person that God created, our fake THC more holy than the plant that God created.

    Do you know which side the Conservatives will run to? Over here we have the golden calf aka Corporations and fake pharma and over there we have the Spiritual God. The Conservatives will the spit right in face of the spirtual God’s face and then run to kiss the golden calf’s ass.

  • Anonymous

    This is another right of ours they would like to take away and give to be exploited. Whats next, growing food? Make it illegal to eat unless the food came from the food manufacturing industry? This is really a big step being taken here. This is a plant that grows and I realize that it is currently illegal to grow, but to give corporate control of it away?, for profit? so they can own it, and we can’t?

    This country is being run by the corporations, like it or not. The Founding Fathers, some who cultivated their own marijuana for herb, and enjoyed getting high, must be rolling over in their graves. So much for the pursuit of happiness.

  • Anonymous

    A guy who runs a cigarette store/smoke shop told me pot would become “legal” only when Monsanto was given the right to produce it in this kind of format. He was right.

  • Anonymous

    Just think how much this synthetic pot will cost per 30 tab prescription. Can you say an “arm and a leg”?

  • Anonymous

    We probably don’t want to know.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to the party pal.

  • Anonymous

    It’s probably obvious that there are cures for AIDS, cancers, etc., on the books and given only to people — famous/politicians/rich fucks/oil sheiks, etc. — who can pay the big money for them and keep their mouths shut about it. The last thing ever cured was polio and that’s because the dude who created the vaccine gave it away for free. Big Pharma learned fast that the best way to make big bucks is to create maintenance drugs that keep people alive — if those people can afford the monthly scripts. There will never be another cure for anything, ever. Just a rubber band to go around one’s wrists begging for donations to “find a cure” for this or that. What a sham and a shame.

  • Anonymous

    Scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever Big Pharma wants … the Congress will pass and the President will sign.

  • Anonymous

    Half a loaf is better than none. Anything to help cancer sufferers that is not some chemical poison is a very good thing. If marijuana has to come from the murderous, greedy pharmaceutical industry it is still better than nothing.

  • Anonymous

    This is all part of the Annunaki reenslavement plan. They created Adam and Eve and Lilith etc. genetically from earth life and their genes. They have continually meddled in earths affairs. They have been very active since the 1800s. Human knowledge expansion since then can’t be explained by innovation, luck, evolution or any other fairy tale. Rumsfeld and Cheney are on the inside of the operation. We truly are just lab animals. There is no morality just raw power.

  • Anonymous

    You are obviously not following the efforts of congress and the FDA to make these, except for exercise of course, highly controlled and regulated industries. The recent so-called “Food Safety Bill” was one major step in this direction. Another piece of legislation sponsored by McCain, who is a well known recipient of massive pharma contributions, would have virtually eliminated the vitamin and health supplement industry and turned the products it now produces over to pharma control. In the UK a law was recently passed that will outlaw most herbal supplements. The fed has raided vitamin companies by the way. Do your research. Google Feds Raid Vitamin.

  • Anonymous

    No it isn’t.

  • Anonymous

    I left you a note and told you I was going to steal it. I posted it on a few MJ stories. Maybe it will get some people thinking. Later I’m going to add something about the DEA confiscating God’s elaborate lighting system… the SUN, LOL as soon as they can figure out how.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty much.

  • Anonymous

    hahahahaha!!!! Very good.

  • Anonymous

    FUCK THEM!

    I’ll STILL smoke it recreationally and I will NOT buy their expensive synthetic crap.

  • Anonymous

    Prescient, our George. That would be Carlin, NOT Gee Duh-bya. Do I ever miss him!! Again, that would be Carlin.

  • cannotvote

    Bull crap – what a ‘sell out’ thing to say! Giving in to pharma, who just want o exploit, is why the corporations are the way they’ve come to be – you should be ashamed of yourself. This stuff grows in the ground, as in your back garden – to give that right to the corporations will eventually stop you from growing vegetables, for your own sustenance!

  • Anonymous

    This is so absolutely hilarious. I’ve been waiting 40 years for the feds to decide who can market pot legally. I was betting originally on Phillip Morris or another cigarette manufacturing company getting the nod first, but that was before Ronald Reagan’s “War on Drugs” and Nancy’s “Just Say No” campaign. Reefer Madness…..i don’t toke, or drink alcohol. Just have no tolerance physically for either, but darned if I believe in prohibition of pot. I have absolutely never seen an aggressive pot smoker. As an artist, I’ve known a few. I have seen nasty, aggressive drunks and live in a state with drive through liquor/beer stores. Any irony seen here?? Sell it legally, tax it and get rid of the draconian laws that put people in jail for using it. That would free up a lot of government money to do useful things, like building schools and hiring teachers. I realize the whole confiscation of property thing would go away so police depts couldn’t keep building fifedoms, but would that really be a bad thing???

  • Anonymous

    big pharma gets paid, private prisons keeps their revenue stream,law enforcement keeps to keep there budget, regular people still get fucked, thats as american as apple pie.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JBOYM7U5CPER73JX57LWIMKHJU Jillian

    If we are “free” people then we are free to demand an immediate end to this ridiculous “prohibition”! To say nothing, to be uneducated is NOT the American way!!

    Marijuana has repeatedly been proven to NOT cause cancer, heart disease, brain damage, liver disease, emphysema, or overdoses, and its addictive potential is about on par with coffee. The DEA is 100% misinformed when it calls marijuana “extremely harmful”!

    The marijuana prohibition empowers drug dealers and the cartels, and makes our children LESS safe! Because of the failings of the prohibition, our children now have easier access to marijuana than to alcohol! We parents have been patient long enough, we must speak up and demand that marijuana be legally sold to adults in gas stations and supermarkets just as beer and wine are today!

    We need laws based on logic, not ideology! We need to end Richard Nixon’s marijuana prohibition and Legalize Adult Marijuana Sales!!

  • Anonymous

    Legalize a plant. Keeping it illegal to plant a seed in your backyard, but allowing big pharma to sell it at great profits is just another indication of who our government represents. and it ain’t the people.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously neither you or any of your friends and relations are vomiting their guts out after chemo. All corporations need their personhood revoked now. Big Pharma especially!

  • Anonymous

    This would allow pharmaceuticals to charge outrageous prices for the plant while still allowing law enforcement to keep the prison industry happy with a steady supply of inmates. It’s the worst of both worlds. Best thing to do is to widely educate people on the history of marijuana prohibition in this country, with its wildly contradictory claims from decade to decade, to expose prohibition for what it is: a waste of taxpayer money, accompanied by expensive propaganda campaigns useful to politicians to scare ignorant constituents with while making themselves look “tough on crime.”

  • Anonymous

    Alcohol prohibition in the US run from 1919 to 1933 – Now google ‘The Great Wall Street Crash’ and see when that happened!

    During alcohol prohibition, all profits went to enrich thugs and criminals. Young men died every day on inner-city streets while battling over turf. A fortune was wasted on enforcement that could have gone on education etc. On top of the budget-busting prosecution and incarceration costs, billions in taxes were lost. Finally the economy collapsed. Sound familiar?

    http://1929crash.com/

    China has recently been in negotiation with a number of countries, asking them to replace the Dollar with the Chinese Yuan as their reserve currency. This, when it happens, will remove the Federal Government’s ability to keep printing cash to cover the trillions it costs to fund prohibition. It’ll bring true freedom but the transition period will be more hectic than a slasher movie. It never had to be this way; we should have learned our lesson from studying the mayhem that alcohol prohibition wreaked on us.

    We all have our victories and defeats as regards fear, but most of us strive not to let fear rule our hearts or our minds. Being free means being free to live and love as if death and fear had no power over us. Freedom also means that we have an ethical and moral responsibility to expose blind hate, lies and ignorance by shining eternal light, truth and love, sending such dark forces fleeing to the shadows from whence they came.

    We explore outer space with various forms of space craft, but many choose to explore inner space via nature’s abundant chemistry – an infinite journey into the heart of God. Whatever, we are here to explore this glorious universe. The Prohibitionist’s brand of hateful, choking pseudo-Conservatism is the antithesis of all that. Like a lion who cannot grasp that he can do more than walk in a circle the size of the cage he’s recently been freed from, the prohibitionist is incapable of exploration beyond the boundaries of his own fear, prejudice and loathing. We are all free to choose how we walk our own path, but when we choose to go beyond this by supporting drug-war demagoguery, to the point of even threatening others with imprisonment and physical violence, we loose the right to expect any form of respect from the once free and prosperous society that we are helping to totally destroy.

    Thanks to prohibition we’re about to lose all semblance of that once ordered, prosperous and safe society. Myself, along with many others, have been debating prohibitionists on this for many years. We have shown what destruction prohibition has wrought on all the civil institutions of this once great nation, -we’ve always provided facts and statistics – they, the prohibitionists, have countered with either lies, personal abuse or even serious threats of violence.

    Ending the insanity of drug prohibition by legalized regulation, respecting the rights of the responsible users and focusing on addiction as a sickness, like we do with alcohol and tobacco, may save what remains of our economy and civil institutions along with countless lives and livelihoods. Prohibition continues unabated for shameful political reasons. It cannot, and never will, reduce drug use or addiction.

    Prohibition has permanently scarred our national character as well as our individual psyches. Our national policies and cultural practices have become pervaded by the fascistic, prohibitionist mind-set which has turned our domestic police force into a bunch of paramilitary thugs who often commit extra-judicial beatings and executions while running roughshod over our rights in order to “protect us from ourselves”.

    When we eventually manage to put the horrors of this moronothon behind us, we’ll need to engage in some very deep and honest soul-searching as to what we want to be as a nation. Many of our freedoms have been severely circumscribed or lost altogether, our economy has been trashed and our international reputation for being “free and fair” has been dragged through a putrid sewer by vicious narrow-minded drug warrior zealots who are ignorant of abstract concepts such as truth, justice and decency. We’ll need to make sure that such a catastrophe is never ever repeated. This may mean that public hearings or tribunals will be held where those who’ve been the instigators and cheerleaders of this abomination will have to answer for their serious crimes against our once prosperous and proud nation.

    Each day you remain silent, you help to destroy the Constitution, fill the prisons with our children, and empower terrorists and criminals worldwide while wasting hundreds of billions of your own tax dollars. Prohibition bears many strong and startling similarities to Torquemada­’s inquisition­, it’s supporters are servants of tyranny and hate. If you’re aware of but not enraged by it’s shear waste and cruel atrocities then both your heart and soul must surely be dead.

    Millions of fearless North Africans have recently shown us that recognizing oppression also carries the weight of responsibility to act upon and oppose that oppression.

    The drug czar’s office is not only unnecessary but also the greatest waste of space since vows of fidelity were included in the christian marriage service.

  • Anonymous

    Reducing cannabis to just THC, minimizes efficacy and greatly increases side effects.

    Many people, including scientists, believe that Marinol/dronabinol lacks the beneficial properties of marijuana/cannabis, which contains more than 60 cannabinoids, including cannabidiol (CBD), thought to be the major anticonvulsant that helps multiple sclerosis patients, and cannabichromene (CBC), an anti-inflammatory which may contribute to the pain-killing effect of cannabis.

    It takes over one hour for Marinol to reach full effect, compared to minutes for smoked or vaporized cannabis. Patients accustomed to inhaling just enough cannabis smoke to manage symptoms have complained of too-intense intoxication from Marinol’s predetermined dosages. It’s also difficult to keep a pill down when one is nauseated. Many have also said that Marinol even produces a far more acute psychedelic effect than cannabis.

    Cannabis vs Marinol http://tiny.cc/alxy0
    Marinol (Dronabinol) = 1344 USD per month
    Marijuana = free if you grow your own outdoors.

    Cannabis is safe and the Queen of all herbs, with euphoria-inducing and life-preserving qualities . . . and need “euphoria” be a bad thing?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OJ7X4WKOH54GOTXIEOKFE3RXT4 Winnie Gillis

    Figures. Pharma was able to take over quinine – no more over the counter for leg cramps. Oh, well, tonic water has lots of quinine and I know just the way to get tonic water down very nicely!

  • Brimstone Hill

    Can’t wait to see the 1st TV ad for this.
    Do you have no appetite, no friends, cannot sleep, always cranky……….then try Cannabis Sativa, a new drug from
    Big Pharma. Side effects may include uncontrollable giggling, late night munchies, enhanced sense of awareness, not exceeding the speed limit.
    Ask your DEA Agent if Cannabis is for you.

  • Anonymous

    Here are just some of the many studies the Feds wish they’d never commissioned:

    01) MARIJUANA USE HAS NO EFFECT ON MORTALITY:

    A massive study of California HMO members funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) found marijuana use caused no significant increase in mortality. Tobacco use was associated with increased risk of death. Sidney, S et al. Marijuana Use and Mortality. American Journal of Public Health
    . Vol. 87 No. 4, April 1997. p. 585-590. Sept. 2002.

    02) HEAVY MARIJUANA USE AS A YOUNG ADULT WON’T RUIN YOUR LIFE:

    Veterans Affairs scientists looked at whether heavy marijuana use as a young adult caused long-term problems later, studying identical twins in which one twin had been a heavy marijuana user for a year or longer but had stopped at least one month before the study, while the second twin had used marijuana no more than five times ever. Marijuana use had no significant impact on physical or mental health care utilization, health-related quality of life, or current socio-demographic characteristics. Eisen SE et al. Does Marijuana Use Have Residual Adverse Effects on Self-Reported Health Measures, Socio-Demographics or Quality of Life? A Monozygotic Co-Twin Control Study in Men. Addiction. Vol. 97 No. 9. p.1083-1086. Sept. 1997

    03) THE “GATEWAY EFFECT” MAY BE A MIRAGE:

    Marijuana is often called a “gateway drug” by supporters of prohibition, who point to statistical “associations” indicating that persons who use marijuana are more likely to eventually try hard drugs than those who never use marijuana – implying that marijuana use somehow causes hard drug use. But a model developed by RAND Corp. researcher Andrew Morral demonstrates that these associations can be explained “without requiring a gateway effect.” More likely, this federally funded study suggests, some people simply have an underlying propensity to try drugs, and start with what’s most readily available. Morral AR, McCaffrey D and Paddock S. Reassessing the Marijuana Gateway Effect. Addiction. December 2002. p. 1493-1504.

    04) PROHIBITION DOESN’T WORK:

    The White House had the National Research Council examine the data being gathered about drug use and the effects of U.S. drug policies. NRC concluded, “the nation possesses little information about the effectiveness of current drug policy, especially of drug law enforcement.” And what data exist show “little apparent relationship between severity of sanctions prescribed for drug use and prevalence or frequency of use.” In other words, there is no proof that prohibition – the cornerstone of U.S. drug policy for a century – reduces drug use. National Research Council. Informing America’s Policy on Illegal Drugs: What We Don’t Know Keeps Hurting Us. National Academy Press, 2001. p. 193.

    05) PROHIBITION MAY CAUSE THE “GATEWAY EFFECT”?): U.S. and Dutch researchers, supported in part by NIDA, compared marijuana users in San Francisco, where non-medical use remains illegal, to Amsterdam, where adults may possess and purchase small amounts of marijuana from regulated businesses. Looking at such parameters as frequency and quantity of use and age at onset of use, they found the following: Cannabis (Marijuana) use in San Francisco was 3 times the prevalence found in the Amsterdam sample. And lifetime use of hard drugs was significantly lower in Amsterdam, with its “tolerant” marijuana policies. For example, lifetime crack cocaine use was 4.5 times higher in San Francisco than Amsterdam. Reinarman, C, Cohen, PDA, and Kaal, HL. The Limited Relevance of Drug Policy: Cannabis in Amsterdam and San Francisco. American Journal of Public Health. Vol. 94, No. 5. May 2004. p 836-842.

    06) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART 1):

    Federal researchers implanted several types of cancer, including leukemia and lung cancers, in mice, then treated them with cannabinoids (unique, active components found in marijuana). THC and other cannabinoids shrank tumors and increased the mice’s lifespans. Munson, AE et al. Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids. Journal of the National Cancer Institute. Sept. 1975. p. 597-602.

    07) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER, (PART 2):

    In a 1994 study the government tried to suppress, federal researchers gave mice and rats massive doses of THC, looking for cancers or other signs of toxicity. The rodents given THC lived longer and had fewer cancers, “in a dose-dependent manner” (i.e. the more THC they got, the fewer tumors). NTP Technical Report On The Toxicology And Carcinogenesis Studies Of 1-Trans- Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol, CAS No. 1972-08-3, In F344/N Rats And B6C3F Mice, Gavage Studies. See also, “Medical Marijuana: Unpublished Federal Study Found THC-Treated Rats Lived Longer, Had Less Cancer,” AIDS Treatment News no. 263, Jan. 17, 1997.

    08) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART 3):

    Researchers at the Kaiser-Permanente HMO, funded by NIDA, followed 65,000 patients for nearly a decade, comparing cancer rates among non-smokers, tobacco smokers, and marijuana smokers. Tobacco smokers had massively higher rates of lung cancer and other cancers. Marijuana smokers who didn’t also use tobacco had no increase in risk of tobacco-related cancers or of cancer risk overall. In fact their rates of lung and most other cancers were slightly lower than non-smokers, though the difference did not reach statistical significance. Sidney, S. et al. Marijuana Use and Cancer Incidence (California, United States). Cancer Causes and Control. Vol. 8. Sept. 1997, p. 722-728.

    09) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART 4):

    Donald Tashkin, a UCLA researcher whose work is funded by NIDA, did a case-control study comparing 1,200 patients with lung, head and neck cancers to a matched group with no cancer. Even the heaviest marijuana smokers had no increased risk of cancer, and had somewhat lower cancer risk than non-smokers (tobacco smokers had a 20-fold increased Lung Cancer risk). Tashkin D. Marijuana Use and Lung Cancer: Results of a Case-Control Study. American Thoracic Society International Conference. May 23, 2006.

    10) MARIJUANA DOES HAVE GREAT MEDICAL VALUE:

    In response to passage of California’s medical marijuana law, the White House had the Institute of Medicine (IOM) review the data on marijuana’s medical benefits and risks. The IOM concluded, “Nausea, appetite loss, pain and anxiety are all afflictions of wasting, and all can be mitigated by marijuana.” The report also added, “we acknowledge that there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting.” The government’s refusal to acknowledge this finding caused co-author John A. Benson to tell the New York Times that the government “loves to ignore our report … they would rather it never happened.” Joy, JE, Watson, SJ, and Benson, JA. Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. National Academy Press. 1999. p. 159. See also, Harris, G. FDA Dismisses Medical Benefit From Marijuana. New York Times. Apr. 21, 2006

    The American Public Health Association, American Nurses Association, Leukemia and Lymphoma Society, National Academy of HIV Medicine, two former U.S. surgeon generals, and hundreds of other medical professional groups all say that marijuana should be available to patients whose doctors recommend it.

  • Guest

    Can you say bass ackward?!

  • Anonymous

    “The DEA’s intent is to expand the federal government’s schedule III listing”

    I thought that was in the hands of the FDA. I don’t know that for sure and would appreciate the real details on who, in government, can alter those listings.

    If this is accurate, I’m sure others, besides me, find the open collusion between the DEA and drug companies, leaving the FDA and Congress out of the loop, to be of interest.

  • Anonymous

    “The DEA is 100% misinformed when it calls marijuana “extremely harmful”!”

    The DEA continually claims it is only a law enforcement agency, upholding the laws and that those laws are created by Congress. Ideally, the police are there to uphold civilian decisions, not to make policy.

    This connection of the DEA calling shots is really interesting! They are not only grabbing power from the FDA but also from our Representatives and Senators.

  • Anonymous

    “The terms Legalization and Prohibition are sometimes used as ways to create ‘straw men’ arguments, by essentially claiming that your opponents are for something else entirely.” — Pete Guither of the DrugWarRant http://www.drugwarrant.com/

    Here are the definitions :
    http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/11/legalization-and-prohibition/

    1) Legalization: A status where responsible adults may legally acquire, possess, and use a particular drug, although there may be restrictions on time, place and manner. Legal does not mean unregulated. In fact, when it comes to drugs, most supporters of legalization call for some regulation and control.

    Consider gasoline. It is an extremely dangerous substance — it can cause severe health problems or death if inhaled, can be fashioned into an explosive and can cause damaging fires. It is a legal substance (responsible adults may acquire, possess, and use it), but it is subject to control and regulation. It can only be sold by licensed dealers, and there are regulations as to how it may be used, in what kind of containers it may be stored, and so forth.

    Legalization of drugs is fully compatible with regulatory efforts restricting access to children, forbidding use while driving or while working in safety-sensitive jobs, banning use in certain locations or situations, controlling the means for manufacture and distribution (including taxation and labeling), and creating standards for purity and potency.

    2) Criminalization: A status where the manufacture, distribution, and/or possession of a particular drug is likely to result in criminal penalties if caught (ie, felony or misdemeanor charges, jail, fines, probation, criminal record), regardless of time, place, or manner.

    3) Prohibition: Criminalization as public policy.

    Decriminalization: American Heritage dictionary defines it as “to reduce or abolish criminal penalties for.” Theoretically, decriminalization could mean legalization (and is preferred by some drug policy reformers), except for the “reduce” option. Decriminalization is sometimes used to describe contradictory legal situations where marijuana, for example, is legal to possess and use, but not to acquire — this is a partial legalization that leaves intact certain aspects of prohibition’s dangerous side-effects.

    The default status of any substance is legal.

    Prohibition is not regulation, not even in the slightest.

    Who, now, controls the purity? : The cartels and the street punks
    Who sets the age limits? : The cartels and the street punks
    Who decides the opening hours? : The cartels and the street punks
    Who settles the trade disputes? : The cartels and the street punks
    And who gets to keep all of the profits? : The cartels and the street punks

    There’s one fact that’s chiseled in the concrete where some of the victims of this moronathon are hidden. -Prohibition is not regulation; it’s a hideous nightmare.

    What we, as a society, now successfully do with alcohol and tobacco is known as legalized regulation. There is no other term for it.
    What the Swiss now successfully do with heroin is also legalized regulation. Albeit with far tighter controls than for alcohol or tobacco.
    http://www.bag.admin.ch/themen/drogen/00042/00629/00798/01191/index.html?lang=en

    And if it’s education you want then maybe we should start demanding that The National Institute on Drug Abuse, NIDA, stop their policy of lying to us about the dangers of drugs (particularly marijuana).

    “And here we come to the vital distinction between the advocacy of temperance and the advocacy of prohibition. Temperance and self-control are convertible terms. Prohibition, or that which it implies, is the direct negation of the term self-control. In order to save the small percentage of men who are too weak to resist their animal desires, it aims to put chains on every man, the weak and the strong alike. And if this is proper in one respect, why not in all respects? Yet, what would one think of a proposition to keep all men locked up because a certain number have a propensity to steal?”
    – Felix Mendelsohn, 1915

    “I am against Prohibition because it has set the cause of temperance back twenty years; because it has substituted an ineffective campaign of force for an effective campaign of education; because it has replaced comparatively uninjurious light wines and beers with the worst kind of hard liquor and bad liquor; because it has increased drinking not only among men but has extended drinking to women and even children.”
    – William Randolph Hearst,
    initially a supporter of Prohibition,
    explaining his change of mind in 1929.
    From “Drink: A Social History of America”
    by Andrew Barr (1999), p.239

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s kind of mean to still be teaching kids that old chart of “how government works.”

    You know with the voters voting for members of the House of Representative, the Senate, the President, the checks and balances with those plus the Judiciary upholding the Constitution. <=== That model.

    I'm not sure it ever really worked that way but now it's either more transparent or it's strayed so far from that model as to make that model as useless as a pre-Copernican model of the solar system.

    So make a new chart with all the real players in the real checks and balances with players like the Koch Brothers at the top running their fake populist "Tea Party" and China and BP and…

  • DesertSun59

    Another giveaway to corporations.

  • Anonymous

    Well said, Greg.

  • Anonymous

    Can you–Eric W. Dolan author of the story–identify to whom this is proposed? As it stands now that’s an incomplete report.

    It’s like a wedding announcement that just says “John proposed.” To who?

    I saw the actual proposal but am having trouble with the legalize, understanding of the complex rule citations, and my limited time.

    This is an older story since this has been proposed before and has to do with generic versions which would reduce costs. So I’m wondering where the hold up has been. It also looks like the deadline for public comments was January 3 (yes?) so where is it at now? Are there specific Reps or Sens who are blocking it?

  • Guest

    Ignorance cannot win over Consciousness

  • Guest

    “Marijuana plants and THC extracts would remain illegal under the proposal, but companies would be able to purchase THC from a government-licensed provider to develop pharmaceutical products.”

    How’s that for a buzz kill. If it ain’t broke… don’t fix it.

  • Jaimie11

    So glad you stayed. Thumbs up.

  • Anonymous

    “Corporations are people too.”
    Everybody must get stoned.

  • http://www.tommyjonestheband.com RantingTommy

    ron pal is just another corporatist

    relegalizing cannabis is the only thing I agree with him about

    his economic policies are just Reaganomics on steroids

  • http://www.tommyjonestheband.com RantingTommy

    the drug war was created by Nixon, elevated by Reagan, given steroids by Bush Jr

    obviously not a left issue

  • http://www.tommyjonestheband.com RantingTommy

    if there was a god, there would be no drug war

    there would also be no religion, but that’s another thread

  • Anonymous

    Haha, I just smoked recreationally. Suckers.

  • http://www.tommyjonestheband.com RantingTommy

    those damned big govt republicans always want the federal govt to be involved in your personal life, they just don’t want it to be able to prevent a company from ripping you off

  • http://www.tommyjonestheband.com RantingTommy

    if there was a god, there would be no cannabis prohibition

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3BAUXIDTKE234676PQLTB55MYM Tim

    Socialism my ass…..this company oh I mean country is much closer to a corprotocracy than anything

  • Buford2k11

    Refer Madness is a disease that is just as hard to cure, as stupidity is in the Tea Party/GOP.

  • http://twitter.com/btmfdrsheaven rebecca meritt

    Well, they have come up with their perfect solution take mari out of the hands of criminals and put it in the hands of giant corporations, sounds good to repugg gov. The street dealer will have a regular job and can get counted as a rise in employment. job creation is their main focus. one thing is for sure I’m gonna need a shitload of mari to be able to put up with these SOBs much longer.

  • Anonymous

    Typical America, geez what BS, Marijuana has to be the most harmless drug there is but we make it illegal so the CIA/Government can profit from it and put people in jail for slave labor to benefit corporations at tax payers expense.

  • Anonymous

    We need a UNION. To represent us to our government. Because they represent BIG Pharma.

  • Guest

    A). First I’m a lover.. and second, a fighter for reason. It’s nice knowing there are people like your self who understand reason.

    B). I realized after corresponding the other day that emotions have no place in public discourse, especially if I am to have dukes as big as yours.

    C). And I couldn’t leave you and Taleisin to fight the good fight alone.

  • Guest

    Dude, great picture and great posts.

  • Guest

    IT IS A CORPOROTOCRACY!

  • enorceht

    Check out

    Norml
    http://norml.org/

    or

    Just Say Now
    http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/

  • enorceht

    it all goes along with teaching kids about santa clause, the easter bunny, and creationism … it all fits together

  • Anonymous

    Ha! Maybe so.

    But I’m half serious. If anyone we want to work on an issue, an accurate schematic of the playing field is needed.

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    only if Big Pharma can profit

  • Anonymous

    My picture is from a bunch of Life photos during the Depression. Lots of classics on there. And did you says post(s)?! Plural?

  • Anonymous

    Haha imagine if corporations got stoned.

    “Hey, man, maybe we SHOULDN’T exploit Colombia.”

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget;

    SSDP
    http://ssdp.org

    or

    LEAP
    http://www.leap.cc

  • Guest

    Yes, I’ve read your posts previously and appreciate your fair and balanced mentality.

  • enorceht

    i was serious too

    perhaps if we were taught Aesop’s Fables along with A People’s History of the United States by Zinn we could be more prepared to deal with the koch bros, china, and bp.

    if we don’t have a sound base and a balanced view we will believe what we are told without questions being asked.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JBOYM7U5CPER73JX57LWIMKHJU Jillian

    The DEA is the *only* department in the country with the power to reschedule marijuana out of Schedule I. Their claim of “only enforcing the law” is simply not accurate. The DEA also bends over backwards to ensure that marijuana will NEVER be legal. Every time the subject is raised the DEA petitions our legislators to ensure that adult marijuana sales will NEVER be legal.

    This is a clear conflict of interest! We have no way of knowing if they’re acting to protect society or their jobs!!

  • Anonymous

    They ain’t taking our weed away just yet. Let’s see how this works out for them. My guess is that they’ll only expose “the lie” to many, many more unsuspecting people who were unaware that our government is just a bunch of money grubbing Nazis. They’re not even trying to disguise the HYJACKING of a plant. IT’S THE PEOPLES PLANT!!

    Let’s get this shit legal state by state before the evil empire begins the war of the clones all over again.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul is 100% against corporatism and he has not only said so but his voting record proves it. They call him Dr. No because he won’t go along with ANYTHING that’s not supported by the Constitution. The man can’t be bought off. He’s a corporate lobbyist’s worse nightmare!

    His economic platform is NOTHING like Regan’s and he’s not a 2 faced liar like Regan was either! Let’s not forget Regan gave us “Just Say No” drug policy in the public spotlight and at the same time had Oliver North flying in military cargo planes loaded with cocaine, to sell in the US, so he could fund the Contras, after Congress voted against funding the Contras. Of course North covered for Regan and said Regan knew nothing about the cocaine but if you believe that I have a bridge and some swamp land you may be interested in!

    Ron Paul has been in office a long time… not one scandal ever. They tried to call him a racist and he proved that was a lie, other than that, NOTHING!

    Please stop listening to the mainstream media, they are owned by the same banksters that got us in the mess we’re in. The banksters own just about every crooked politician in both parties and they own most of the largest corporations in the world. Why do you think Obama’s policy looks so much like Bush’s? It’s because they’re both owned by the same crooks!

    Visit youtube and listen to Ron Paul’s words straight from his own mouth! Listen to what he said in the 2008 presidential debates. He’s been saying the same things for years, the media keeps trying to keep him down but We The People are supporting him more and more because he has proven he Constitutionally represents all the PEOPLE better than ANY other Federal representative we have.

    He’s right about economics, he’s right about foreign policy, he’s right about virtually everything he does because he measures everything he does by the Constitution and he’s all about personal liberty and people being responsible for their selves instead of being over taxed and over controlled by a nanny State. I don’t remember hearing Regan say anything about auditing the Federal Reserve, getting back to the gold standard, not interfering in the affairs of nations that haven’t attacked, or aren’t about to attack us, do you?

    RP treats the Constitution like it should be treated… he governs strictly according to it, fairly and honestly! Find me another potential 2012 presidential candidate you can say that about!

    On top of that he wants to end the drug war and let the States handle drug policy not the Federal Government because Constitutionally that power belongs to the States.

    Just watch him in the 2008 debates, on youtube. Hind sight really is 20-20!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJJ4KEVT2Z5RDHTIRGJOUWL2EA Paul M

    No true words have ever been spoken. They (Ruling Class) are performing the same parallels in europe for the same objectives as well. With the same tactics, only, specially formulated for the European mind set populace. There is a difference. And they are going to unleash extreme tyranny in desperation when the people finally realize who is responsible and begin to act en masse to address them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JETED5IFXLBHDCPATGS3JUS5HU Dip Stick

    F that and f them. This is categorical proof that there are two sets of laws in this country. Laws for those with money and laws for those without.
    Everything Big Pharma produces now is almost worse than the disease. In fact I can’t remember in my 35 years on this planet Big Pharma actually making a cure. Treatments to illnesses yes, tons of those, there’s lots of money in treatments, but one pill boom you’re cured, not that I can recall. Vaccines don’t count as cures.
    I wouldn’t ingest their frankenweed product if they paid me to. I don’t trust their products, I don’t trust their motivations. Their are disingenuous to their core. I trust the local hood on the street corner slinging every illegal narcotic more than I trust Big Pharma.

  • Anonymous

    And if you grow indoors costs are about $20-$30 an oz of “kind”. Hell, I can’t even consume an oz per month so it’s cheaper than my Warfarin and eye drops together… even indoors!

    I know a heavy med smoker and when he tried Marinol he freaked out saying it was just too intense. It is even more powerful than BHO which can put your dick in the dirt. I wonder why it’s so expensive in pill form? Oh silly me, profits. So why don’t most Medical Marijuana States allow profits? Silly me again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Legalizing the plant legalizes Hemp as well.. I’m guessing there are a few other lobbies still bitching about that.

  • Anonymous

    You’re right, that’s a topic for another thread but the post about God being wanted for drug trafficing makes a good point.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJJ4KEVT2Z5RDHTIRGJOUWL2EA Paul M

    Or “Address” the govt. That might be less aggressive.

  • Anonymous

    Well thanks, but Fair and Balanced makes me think of the Lamestream Media.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    They will probably engineer a marker in it that they can test for.. if you pop the THC but don’t have the engineered marker, busted!

    And the marker will be a carcinogen or destroy your liver (they add acetaminophen to codeine on purpose, to destroy your liver if you abuse codeine, which by itself doesn’t hurt you)..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Naturally occurring plants have no business being illegal, either. I can grow mint, rosemary, thyme, all kinds of spices.. I can grow chilies that can actually be used to kill people.. I can grow all kinds of stuff.. but not that particular plant?

    Pretending the “illegal status” of the harmless plant matters is to ignore the reality around the plant and buy into the lies you’re being fed by profit-mongers and control-freaks.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    “It’s a medicine anyway and probably should be treated that way.”

    In ADDITION to being a medicine, it is a great recreational drug.. safer than alcohol on all accounts. If alcohol is legal, so should this plant be. Period. End of story. Full Stop.

    Finding ways to lock citizens out of cheaply caring for their medical needs just to enrich mega-corps is immoral, insane, and disgusting. .. Period.. well, you know the rest.

    “Just as long as people aren’t forced to take pills and shit to take the medicine.”

    This is EXACTLY what they are trying to force on us. They are trying to shut down “plant growers” and only let pill form be sold.. and only a few corporations have the infrastructure to make the pills. They will quickly patent all extraction forms and abuse the masses.. as they ALWAYS do.

  • Roberthe

    Emotions are fine if they’re not driving the argument and if they’re not being intentionally used to elicit a knee-jerk response that supplants rational thought. We are simultaneously rational and emotional; we are at out best when the two are in balance-suppressing one while focusing solely on the other is likely to produce unwanted and potentially monstrous results. Stick around-we need your voice.

  • Anonymous

    I’m unknowledgeable about that and don’t mean to doubt what you say but then that leaves me wondering to WHOM are they making this proposal that has been getting denied (again by who?) for several years now?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Hey.. if corporations are people.. and corporations can grow pot to extract stuff for medicinal production… then people can grow pot and extract stuff for medicinal production, right?

    Guess what my extraction method would be.. it’s VERY cost effective and maximizes the compounds extracted so I can put them to the best use!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    but it will be covered by your mandated insurance! (that you can’t pay for if you lose your job, which will be 40% of the population over the next decade).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    But, it WILL be a chemical poison, on purpose. That’s what they DO! Just look at pain killers that contain codeine, for example. Codeine in the strengths given for pain won’t hurt you.. and you can abuse it quite readily without hurting your body.. so they added acetaminophen to it so that if you “abuse it”, your liver will rot. They made the pain killers into poison on purpose.

    They will do the same kind of thing with their cannabis extracts. Bet your life on it (literally, since abusing those extracts will kill you from the poison they add).

  • Jaimie11

    As Boneman points out, it is a corporatocracy, but with desires and intent to push corporate controlled socialist programs onto us, all the better with which to fill their lust for power and profit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Obviously you have no concern for the POOR who can’t afford those very expensive treatments for their pain and misery.. turning this into a profit-motive vehicle for pharma doesn’t help the poor. Growing the plant is free, drying it is free, smoking it is free.. gee, which is better, free treatment or treatment you can only get by being extorted by profit-mongers?

    And this has NOTHING to do with corporations having faux personhood.. it has everything to do with corrupt government, a criminal state, that would seek to let the few abuse the masses for profit at all cost.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Republican!

    sure I can :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    But it’s not even close to a solution.

    First off, recreational users of cannabis will still want to get it. Since “government licensed dealers” won’t be able to sell to street goons, someone else will still need to grow/sell.. criminal activities, so prosecution of citizens will still be rampant, the PIC will still be breaking tax payer wallets, and lives will still be destroyed over a harmless plant.

    Secondly, if Big Pharma is to make pills from some expensive base stock (the government will make it that way to help more friends in the money chain), the inferior drugs they sell will also be very expensive. That means only a limited number of “patients” will garner any relief from what would otherwise be near free medicine.

    The only viable solution to the cannabis issue is 100% legalizing of it. Regulate it like alcohol and be done with it. Anything else is absurdity and a human rights violation.

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone else sense the unease among our own have-nots? Here is one more example of big business dictating our very laws in order to ensure that they will get rich off of us. (Wisconsin, anyone?)
    The very inequality being thrown over in the Middle East is at play here, and I don’t feel anything but anger and resentment toward the robber-barons who seem to control everything from Wall St. to the gas pump. The so-called American Dream ended when Reagan gave the country to these wonderful people who will kill us all, one way or another, in the name of fucking money.

  • Guest

    Sorry, meant to say reasonable

  • Guest

    That means a lot coming from you. I have paid attention to and appreciated your previous posts. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    What? No melamine?

  • WaStConcerned

    I wondered when PhRMA would step in and try to take over the “movement” to their advantage….

    Why can’t we AS PEOPLE deal with this “over the counter” like most of their formerly prescription drugs that have gone off patent…..there is certainly NO danger in consuming even overdoses of this drug……

    I thought PhRMA was for drugs that could be “dangerous”?????

    Get real, this is just more money sqeezing by corporations intent on expanding their influence.

  • Hologram5

    DEA to legalize marijuana only for ‘Big Pharma,’ NORML claims
    ——————————————————————-
    Nice, now all I have to do is change my name to “Big Pharma” and I’ll be gold. Acapulco Gold that is….

  • Anonymous

    Yup, Round-up ready, mutating species.

  • Anonymous

    They’ll charge 5 times more than the pusher man.

  • Anonymous

    …..start here my friend. By organizing and voting:

    “We call for emergency rallies in front of every statehouse this Saturday at noon to stand together to save the American Dream.”

    http://pol.moveon.org/callforaction/

  • Anonymous

    “to throw off”

    “over throw”

    Totally different meanings. Trust me. I can “sick” Thom Hartmann on you.

  • Anonymous

    All this is stored on a shelf shared with a jar of coffee beans that will maybe be used tomorrow for the coffee and the daily craic.

  • Anonymous

    Someone I know who was severely ill and lost 80pounds was offered a prescription by their doctor for some form of thc to increase his appetite. All the psychoactive elements were removed, it was not very effective and the pills were $10 each taken daily for a grand total of $3650. a year. Your drug laws in action.

  • Anonymous

    The Pusher –Hoyt Axton

    You know I’ve smoked a lot of grass
    O’ Lord, I’ve popped a lot of pills
    But I never touched nothin’
    That my spirit could kill
    You know, I’ve seen a lot of people walkin’ ’round
    With tombstones in their eyes
    But the pusher don’t care
    Ah, if you live or if you die

    God damn, The Pusher
    God damn, I say The Pusher
    I said God damn, God damn The Pusher man

    You know the dealer, the dealer is a man
    With the love grass in his hand
    Oh but the pusher is a monster
    Good God, he’s not a natural man
    The dealer for a nickel
    Lord, will sell you lots of sweet dreams
    Ah, but the pusher ruin your body
    Lord, he’ll leave your, he’ll leave your mind to scream

    God damn, The Pusher
    God damn, God damn the Pusher
    I said God damn, God, God damn The Pusher man

    Well, now if I were the president of this land
    You know, I’d declare total war on The Pusher man
    I’d cut him if he stands, and I’d shoot him if he’d run
    Yes I’d kill him with my Bible and my razor and my gun

    God damn The Pusher
    Gad damn The Pusher
    I said God damn, God damn The Pusher man

  • Guest

    Kill the rich.

    It is the only solution.

  • Anonymous

    yeah it does look like to 60s…the young people lost then…now that they are in charge and the new young people will just roll over like they good little duckies

  • Anonymous

    on these nuts the DEA must suck!!

  • Anonymous

    that’s the plan

  • Anonymous

    Paul Armentano said, “The DEA’s intent is to expand the federal government’s schedule III listing to include pharmaceutical products containing naturally derived formations of THC while simultaneously maintain existing criminal prohibitions on the plant itself.”

    The plant is cannabis, the main drug is THC (cannabis has others like CBD and CBN – none cause death), and marijuana is a term with an abstruse 104 word definition where only 19 words are necessary. The point is that there is a definition of marijuana which will restore States rights and our rights, work better for law enforcement, boost the economy, and educate our children.

    I invite you to join the Peloton, as we demand this simple definition of marijuana which actually shows respect for our Constitution:

    16. “The term ‘marijuana’ means all parts
    of the smoke produced by the combustion
    of the plant Cannabis sativa L.”

  • Eyeball_Kid

    TV must be getting boring. There are some pretty nasty comments coming down on the page. But they’re still selecting contestants on American Idol. They’d better pick up the pace or millions will start wondering who’s been shorting their paychecks. Baseball season begins soon. It had better before the national conversation becomes, “Why is my purchasing power decreasing, while the wealth of millionaires and billionaires is ballooning?”

    Yeah. Why is that?

    The Egyptians know it. The Libyans know it. It’s about the haves and the have-nots.

    When will the US know it? When will we demand that wealth and politics be separate?

  • Eyeball_Kid

    OTOH, it could loosen up the LEAs, who simply may not be interested in continuing the war. If the reclassification of THCs does occur, it would behoove the legalization people to get out in front of the narrative and equate the pharmaceuticals with the herbal. It’s the public’s perception of the issue that will have long-term consequences. The wholesale herbal is so much… cheaper.

  • Guest

    It’s ok, just become a millionaire and then you won’t have to worry about silly prohibition laws!

  • Anonymous

    One of the biggest threats we have to national security, We The People, Free Markets and Constitutional Rights and Liberty is: al-C-I-A-da

  • Anonymous

    Don`t believe anything Canada tells you.Canada speaks with a forked tongue.Ask Canada about “Rick Simpson”,and how they,Canada,railroaded Mr Simpson who is now in exile,afraid to return to Canada for fear of being put in prison for curing Cancer with an oil made from Hemp…Mr Simpson made the oil,and Gave It Away to those that suffer from cancer..many types of Cancer bye the way.The Canadian Gov is just like the American Gov…they`re all about money,not about the people at all.

  • Anonymous

    As far as America goes,they are so into themselves,they don`t even know what happening to them.Please!! don`t bother me anymore,I`m having a beer and watching a game.

  • Anonymous

    Americans still have people like Hillery,and Harry,and Cass Sunstein on the pay roll..what the hell do you expect?

  • http://twitter.com/btmfdrsheaven rebecca meritt

    It should be a non-issue as it is an herb not a drug and should be classified as such. Sugar is legal and it kills people through overdosing every day. Maybe some day we’ll let adults be adults.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7CXBXR7BVYKZNSK6IFD4PCBQBQ Starter

    Wow a crock of shit is what I say DEA and GOV. are the biggest crooks I have ever seen they rob dispensaries and claim they took only so much they split what they rob to each other and corrupted officials,what they are saying here is big phrama will be paying them lots of money and they will look the other way see it’s always a good thing when these agency’s can get paid under the table but not good when the people no longer need them I feel once marijuana is legal fully the agency’s will look more retarded then they already do .I also find it funny for these clowns to think the people should have to follow there crooked ass laws yet they don’t have to follow our Constitution .

  • Anonymous

    unless of course there is a generic, it probably won’t be available through your insurance. the generic of course, is cheaply grown in your yard or a flower pot…..

  • Anonymous

    monsanto is certainly working on that angle….unless you buy their shitty seed and sign a very bad contract making you liable for anything that goes wrong with your now genetically modified tomatoes and peppers.

  • Anonymous

    You are obviously not following the efforts of congress and the FDA to make these, except for exercise of course, highly controlled and regulated industries. The recent so-called “Food Safety Bill” was one major step in this direction. Another piece of legislation sponsored by McCain, who is a well known recipient of massive pharma contributions, would have virtually eliminated the vitamin and health supplement industry and turned the products it now produces over to pharma control. In the UK a law was recently passed that will outlaw most herbal supplements. The fed has raided vitamin companies by the way. Do your research.

  • Anonymous

    You are obviously not following the efforts of congress and the FDA to make these, except for exercise of course, highly controlled and regulated industries. The recent so-called “Food Safety Bill” was one major step in this direction. Another piece of legislation sponsored by McCain, who is a well known recipient of massive pharma contributions, would have virtually eliminated the vitamin and health supplement industry and turned the products it now produces over to pharma control. In the UK a law was recently passed that will outlaw most herbal supplements. The fed has raided vitamin companies by the way. Do your research.

  • Anonymous

    I could not agree more. Unfortunately, even Polio was not actually cured, only eliminated in the population through effective vaccination. It has made a comeback recently in certain central African countries, particularly Angola and Nigeria, and is spreading to neighboring countries. This setback is primarily due to a rumour circulated amongst the population of Angola and neighboring countries denigrating the vaccine which resulted in a temporary halt to vaccination in 2003. Who could have possibly been behind this?

  • Anonymous

    I could not agree more. Unfortunately, even Polio was not actually cured, only eliminated in the population through effective vaccination. It has made a comeback recently in certain central African countries, particularly Angola and Nigeria, and is spreading to neighboring countries. This setback is primarily due to a rumour circulated amongst the population of Angola and neighboring countries denigrating the vaccine which resulted in a temporary halt to vaccination in 2003. Who could have possibly been behind this?

  • Guest

    no surpirse, PHARMA is after all the biggest drug pusher in the US. hey, now that would be interesting to see what happens when PHARMA tries to push the mexican drug cartel out of the US pot business.

  • Anonymous

    Cause Corporations can do it better and more efficiently than G*d.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NVVND23WX6EZPHKCUF442UGAVA Chris

    First of all, Obama’s policies look so much like Bush’s because the republicans have been ass raping all of the legislation that he’s been proposing. The same people in charge of the Bush congress were filibustering everything Obama proposed until it was shredded into neo-con crap. And now that they have control they are trying to destroy the economy Bush style and blame it on Obama. It’s not hard to follow, just read the news or check the web site of your senator.

    The neo-cons also control most of the seats in the supreme court (courtesy of Bush), so before you go about calling Obama the same as President George Bush Jr. remember to check your information. Frankly I’m insulted to see somebody posting on a progressive site who doesn’t even do their own research.

    Bush is or should be known as the worst president in American history, at least until the history books are re-written by the Texas Board of Education.

  • Anonymous

    Chris,

    You need to learn that there are 13 families in this world that own and run just about everything that has any major value. They own many crooked Democrats and they own many crooked Republicans, just like they have financed both sides in many wars… that way they stay in power no matter what happens and they gain assets from the losers. Their goal is a one world government. Google: Georgia guide stones, if you want a quick look at the big plan.

    If Obama is so different from Bush, why are we still fighting two unconstitutional, undeclared wars? Why are we occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, when neither of those countries attacked us? Why doesn’t Obama bring the troops home and send a small force under power of a letter of Marque and Reprisal, to bring those individuals responsible for 911 to justice, as Dr. Ron Paul has suggested? Why hasn’t he legalized marijuana? Why is he bailing out private companies with tax dollars, which is completely unconstitutional, just like Bush did?

    Wake up and stop getting sucked into the left/right, Democrat/Republican, Liberal/Neocon, or any other us against them nonsense group battle that has no real substance or creed! Put people in office that govern strictly according to the Constitution! That’s the creed that made this Nation the greatest Nation on earth and the further we get away from it, the deeper we sink into the one world government stink pot.

    Your right, the truth is not hard to follow but you’re not going to see truth in the mainstream news and your not going to see truth on the website of any politician that doesn’t weigh EVERYTHING they do by the CONSTITUTION!

    The Supreme Court is obviously owned by the banksters! How hard is that to figure out when they ruled that corporations are people? We are supposed to have Government of, by and for THE PEOPLE, not of, by and for corporations. The banksters own virtually every big corporation in the world including all the mainstream media, how is the voice of the People going to be heard with corporations lobbying (buying) the Government?

    I assure you, I’ve done my research and checked my information, so get out of the sandbox, stop drinking the bankster kool-Aid and check yours! Frankly I’m a little insulted too, I’m insulted by people that are obviously capable of seeing the truth but they’d rather act like kids on a playground and accomplish absolutely NOTHING while the whole Country is losing their jobs and going bankrupt.

    Bush should have been tried for treason, found guilty and hung from the highest tree in plain view of every other bankster owned politician including Obama.

    NOW GET YOUR CRAP TOGETHER AND LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT RON PAUL! If he decides to run in 2012 and we fail to elect him again, we’re done! This Country will not hold up under another 4-8 years with a bankster puppet in the White House, a majority of bankster puppets in Congress and a majority of bankster puppets sitting on the Supreme Court. If Ron Paul decides not to run in 2012, you’re well advised to learn who he supports and back them.

  • Anonymous

    I assure you there are just as many on the left that have supported drug prohibition. What’s Obama done about the drug war, other than promise to leave the medical marijuana States alone and then turn a blind eye while Federal raids in those States continue? Clinton certainly didn’t do ANYTHING to end the drug war, he loved it and promoted it. Carter didn’t really push it but he didn’t do anything to end it either…and their are many more on the left in Congress that live to keep the drug war going. The parties are NOTHING but smoke and mirrors!

    Find a politician that Governs strictly according to the CONSTITUTION, put them in office and the drug war and a lot of other unconstitutional harm and waste will end! Stop being a party patsy, both parties are full of bankster owned crooks. Vote for or against the PERSON not the PARTY. Judge them by whether or not they govern Constitutionally… that way you have something to measure them by and if they govern unconstitutionally fire them at the next election and replace them with a Constitution respecting representative of WE THE PEOPLE.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O6OVVHMVMAMMQ4JYJV4FCGM5BI Vanessa

    Wow, our pharmaceutical companies are really really smart… Let’s take something that is already a natural, pure form of medicine but turn it into a drug that is categorized with hydrocodene. We have Marijuana in its pure form, then we have Marinol which is a pharmaceutical version of THC and now we legalize it only for the Big Pharma to make more money. I can’t remember the last time Marijuana has killed someone but hydrocodene and others have killed quite a few. Power to the people!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000659264878 Dawn Weaver

    Except the people fighting the “Ruling Class”, A.K.A., “The Man,” in the 60s are now in charge and have become The Ruling Class. Guess it wasn’t so much what the man was doing back then; it was just who the man was. They like democracy as long as the vote goes their way, and they love the Ruling Class as long as they run it.

  • Anonymous

    Gun Control:

    1. long range: holding your breath and slowly squeezing the trigger when you fire, while maintaining a perfectly stationary position on your target with your sight

    2. short range: keeping the trigger pressed, the magazine full and your gun pointed in the general direction of the target

  • Anonymous

    Ok, we get it! You don’t believe in God. Some people do, get over it!

    By the way, if there is a God I doubt He’ll runs things the way you instruct him to.

  • Anonymous

    DON”T TREAD ON MEDICINE!

  • Anonymous

    Dronabinol is total crap, and about 1,200$ for a month’s supply, it does not work in the same way as an easily grown weed. LEGALIZE NOW!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Any bleeding…?

  • Anonymous

    Dude, I love how you come in here with that in the middle of all this tense/frustrating back and forth! You are just like a toke of the good stuff. Now if only I could grow my own heaven instead of buy someone else’s hell…

  • Anonymous

    Hehehe. Yeah. Look how they are ALREADY making our lives better for us!!! Thank goodness they knew best what to do with our primitive urge to use this plant, and to relegalize it!!! Thanks to their wisdome!!!

  • Anonymous

    I have to admit, I didn’t much care for the herb before about 1.5 years ago (I’m almost 35). I didn’t care to hate it either, in spite of my upbringing (you don’t want to know…). But after this plant practically did my Philosophy thesis for me and tied up years of loose ends in metaphysics while I watched and asked it questions like a little boy asking grandpa why the sky is blue, and I can still RECALL and USE all of that wisdom, I do have a sort of “liking” for it. That is why four thousands of years it has been referred to by those who know as “The Philosopher’s Stone”, probably actually as much a reference for good Red or Yellow Hashish. Well, The Big Evil Assholes themselves say that they don’t want a population full of philosophers (one their yougenecists said it…). Anyway, after I got an enlightenenment boost from this friendly plant, Irealized that any efforts to relegalize it would be “detoured” into a health issue, for which they would bring out their Pharmapsychotic Lobotomy Kit, which they also want to use against VITAMINS (?!). Saw this coming a fucking MILE AWAY. Didn’t take a George Carlin to do it. Just takes foresight. That’s another thing they don’t want you to have a lot of… Oh, and they don’t want you to have a sense of humor… that also has something to do with both enlightenment and this plant, and George Carlin. Like he said, as to this “Owner’s Club”…. YOU AIN’T IN IT…

    But if any measure of metaphysical analysis is correct, GOD IS the owner, and sole owner, and can choose any to be co-owners or not. That’s what we’re here for, to be tested as to our “deep will”. What WOULD YOU DO, God wants to know. Well, honest people make their choices, and pharma shills make theirs, but those are, as certain folks here say in truth, are bankster shills, but THOSE are shills for a Big Lie. To realize the nature of the Big Lie and to stand in the Truth, no matter how much apparent pain it seems to cause, is to pass the trial by fire. That’s why the Big Lie crucifies This Plant. It makes passing the test a hell of a lot easier if you are so inclined. Makes me wonder sometimes… Maybe God DOES want it illegal, until enough people prove they are worthy of it… I think that might explain part of why poisons are so LEGAL… God wants to give YOU the maximum chance to prove what kind of being YOU really are. Do you take the easy way out? Or do you investigate and judge fairly. Do you act like a monkey in a zero sum game, or do you act like a Human Being worthy of Angelic status who knows that deep down, this can’t be about suffering, and doesn’t have to be. That’s one thing I like about this plant and that Rapturists and Fantatics of various sorts often hate: It does show that life isn’t about suffering, and so it pulls people away from their influence…

    Which pill? Neither pill.

  • Anonymous

    You DO get it. You just don’t LIKE it…

  • Anonymous

    The very meaning of the term “God” is “Ultimate Authority on Something”. There may only be ONE God on any given “Something”. If there IS an ultimate authority on Reality as Such, that would be, by definition “God”. I think that Tommy’s whine is, however unarticulated, that he doesn’t like the VERSION of “God” which most people and religions foist upon each other, and realizes that THIS has caused and does cause more suffering than the prohibition of Cannibis EVER did or EVER will. I think he also realizes that it is the same obssession with using “God” in reference to what people are allowed to do with themselves which has caused or been cited as a fair reason to cause the very problem that some folks around here can’t resist poetically referring back to “said God” in their comments about how silly it is to have these prohibitions in the first place. He doesn’t like the pathetic irony of dragging God into this AGAIN… after dragging God in has caused an enormous amount of grief already. He’s saying “Let’s leave ‘God’ out of it this time, and try to figure out if there is a HUMAN way to get out of a HUMAN problem, shall we?”. I tend to agree with him. Then again, that’s a lot of words I just put in his mouth, idn’t it? I’m just guessing.

    Even so, I think that it is a bit of an argumentative stretch to use theological arguments, however rhetorical and perhaps even however interesting, in a debate which can be so much easier to settle on the adherence to an document we all should have realized that our government began ignoring a LONG time ago… Some people would just rather keep their head in the sand (as you, a Ron Paul advocate, have long since noticed…). Remember how he was effectively kept out of the race for POT-US about 3 years ago? People are stupid, ain’t they? And it is a lot of this kind of “stupid” which hates pot, but also hates Paul, because both of these things threaten their Status Quo Ensconced Life/Lifestyle/Ego… They’d rather not think about it/bomb it/ hear someone in a suit and tie that looks like them (roughly) say “all the right things” about it. Welcome to the womanly version of what America no longer is.

  • Anonymous

    By the way, I apologize about the incoherence of some of my sentences in that reply. I slipped into “rough draft mode”, which I have been chastised for enough to know better than to do. Unfortunately I can’t EDIT the damn thing because they have this edit function on here that in no way allows me to edit anything, kind of like the “legalized” version of MJ they want us to have will in no meaningful way be anything like MJ (an ominous parellel). I hope you get my point, which is that we might best avoid going out on theological limbs for something far to important than such risks warrant. This might also apply to Ron Paul’s (or his pick’s) presidential candidate platform… I think though, that the guy who dislikes mentioning of God in reference to this debate (regardless of its benign nature) is the mirror image of those who dislike the LACK of mentioning God when they listen to Ron Paul and his ilk speak (I am certainly in favor of “his ilk”, and even once contributed some hard cash to help his ilk get him into office, though we see what FOX had to say about all that…). Well, I think you can see my point. God hasn’t been helping any of us in these two very important issues (POT and the POT-US), so we might best not mention the Big G as much as use the logical and Sensory faculties and the Ethical faculties said Being gave us to use for sorting out said issues. That’s all I’m saying. As for me, I think God is awesome, and that awesomeness I do believe is in US, and That Plant is simply able to remind us of this in a direct way by temporarily soft-wiring our hardwired ego-traits and pervasive cultures forceful programming, to give us a chance to SEE that truth plain as day. It then lets us come “back to earth” in a way that also says “Now, APPLY what you learned”. Too many “POT HEADS” don’t seem to understand this, and thereby make it seem that This Plant is nothing but a tool by which people try to escape from this world. While this habit of some does underline just how fucked up this world is and how much we need to fix ourselves so it can be a better world, it is not representative of the true nature of this plant, just as those types are not representative of God’s Ideal Human Being.

    For the record, I like your comments. Let me say this: The ideal human being would prefer Ron Paul to all other current candidates for POTUS, and he would do so on the basis of rational investigation of the optimal form of government and a look at our constitution, the history of earth as we now have it, and the other governments currently in existence. He would take neither the red nor the blue pill (I think every one here who falls for the Repugmocrat fallacy ought to know what this means), and prefers to see reality. He also wouldn’t accept the Pharma-pill and would prefer naturally grown, preferably SELF grown, Herbs.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting setup that we have though! Corporations have personhood when it profits them, and we, real persons, are made out in court documents to be corporations when it suits the STATE and its Corporate Person friends… Something is amiss!!! But within that there is so much that is obviously amiss and not so seeminly arcane as all that legalistic mumbo jumbo, and human common sense could handle it, if these so call humans weren’t such cowards… or if brave humans weren’t such idiots without a lick of common sense, which apparently isn’t so common…

  • Anonymous

    So because all of this (supposed) “Annunaki” activity has occurred, and it has a lot of support (supposedly, again, though it seems not beneath them if true) from very visible “insiders”, you conclude, magically, that there is no such thing as “morality”? This is an absurdity. It could be called a non-argument, but you did provide premises (not very sound ones, though interesting) and then you did provide a conclusion. But it takes more than just that to draw a valid inference. Just thought I’d let you know. It’s called logic.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see any irony, myself, in this comparison between alchohol with reefer. The difference is consistent with the plans of those who maintain the illegality of the latter, and who are big pushers of the former. They want a bunch of dumb and drunk conscripts for their neverending wars for profit which also consolidate their power while they continue to develop technology for the better enslavement, I mean protection, of you and me. I see it as consistent, not ironic. But I think you must have been sarcastic. Still, a lot of folks can’t even see the “irony” of it, much less the consistency. This is planned, it has a reason, it is not an accident or simply some shortsighted force of greed or revolving door/ iron triangle politics. This is far more powerful than that. That’s why it is undersold as being a sociological malaise of sorts in our political textbooks in college. Blue pill or Red?

  • Anonymous

    No, they are not misinformed. They are misinforming others. They no damn well that it is not harmful, the ones who make and enforce policy in that organization. They know damn well. But while they may not say it in context, they are technically truthful. It IS harmful: to them, and “their way of life”… among that of others we could easily mention who like and endorse the DEA’s comments.

  • Anonymous

    I like the flow of your points. You obviously have been doing this for the years you say you have, and I applaud your rhethorical mastery of these fine points. Too bad too many people can’t give an honest moment of reflection to them. Thanks again, though.

  • Anonymous

    Most of the data for your knowledge compilation chart on this and integratable subjects already does exist of course, but as with the standard fare it is ususally provided only partially, and even when provided in a very substantive and full sort of way it is heavily colored with the angle or slant of the provider. I think there is so much chaffe to separate from the wheat that I can barely bake my own bread. But yes, an integrated system of understanding what takes place on earth all the way down to “how governments REALLY work”, possibly taught in parallel to snippets in little boxes normally reserved for “conspiracy theories”, should be collected together by some sage and made attractive with a nice strong binding and glossy, well illustrated pages, well-thought out diagrams, and possibly mutliple book marks. It would be nice to have a little school where this could be effectively taught to a new generation of… nevermind, that would just give them another door for kicking in, and this should have been done generations ago. Maybe the ancient Gnostics or Essenes already did it!!

    But yeah, to scale it down merely to the “issue at hand”, we should look at what really goes on and study it empirically, just as we do in the other sciences… :D That is exactly what “loonies” and “conspiracy nuts” etc all seem to be doing… But no, if it were up to FOX, we’d all believe Hannity was the “cutting edge” of digging into the dirt, along with that other, fat fuck with is loudmouthed pretentions to being our savior, what’s his name? The guy who acts like he’s going to ‘blow the whole lid off” and ‘lead us’ to some sort of neo-conservative promised land? Nevermind, not worth remembering. Thankfully, I don’t watch T.V. so I only see his face now and then and can’t even remember the idiot’s name!! :D

  • Anonymous

    It is Plato’s Republic on technological steroids. That is deeper than profit and power in the normally accepted senses. Some people would like to stop thinking at “greed and power”. I just think that at the end of the day that is not enough. Too simple. But if it makes people hate the facade enough to tear it down successfully, even if just enough to get Pot legalized, then I’m for it. But a plan as massive as “they” are mounting really is far more dangerous than just this one plant. However, it seems that this one plant might be a REALLY important PART of that plan, that is, it is REALLY DANGEROUS for them… It is also very potent in certain ways that can ONLY be properly understood by understanding forces beyond the physical body alone. That’s why they don’t want everyone to be able to study it, that is, USE IT to help them STUDY THEMSELVES… Alas, if the moronic masses can even win just this one battle, I might even be able to forgive them for letting it get this far.

  • Anonymous

    All true, but for the “harmless” part. It is VERY harmful. We just have to remember to state for WHOM it is found to be a harm. Those would be the ususal suspects… But saying it is harmless, while we all know what it means, sounds wrong for some reason. That’s because if it were so “harmless”, why all the fuss? We have to be RAZOR SHARP in the way we fight this battle. It is very harmful: To THEM.

    Who’s “THEM”? Anybody who wants to control what you do with your own body such that it always has a profit for them, but not necessarily for you. That is a very broad spectrum definition of “THEM”, and there are a lot of very appropriate entities to put into it. We could start with specially interested parties of all sorts who wish to get hold of the reins of governement, either in office itself or behind the scenes through lobbies or other means of interaction. There are banking cartels (de facto criminal) and other crime cartels (de facto and de jure). The list includes people in the bible belt who want you to believe as they do about things and act as they do, or in ways comfortable for them and their version of reality, regardless of constitutional provisions against such attempts to control their fellow Americans. There are religious idiots in some parts of the world who think we should fight wars for them in the middle east. There are morons who are afraid of you enjoying yourself just because it means they might have to see how their own way of life happens to make them unhappy. There are medical companies who deal in “medicines” which don’t cure what this plant cures, or which don’t alleviate symptoms half as well as it does (ususally by curing the CAUSE of the symptoms…). These and other usual suspects will conduct themselves in powerhungry ways very consistently against anything and anyone they find threatening to their power, and they will always do so in predictable ways. So it is important to very correctly and loudly say that Pot is VERY HARMFUL… to them and their plans for unjust power over others.

    Other than that point (which I remind others of as well), I’m with you on probably everything, at least in spirit. I want the same results (legalization), and for mostly the same reasons.

  • Anonymous

    But I think to say this is to miss an important point. It is actually a NONISSUE whether or not it is a DRUG. This is because whether or not you call it a DRUG or a PLANT, the issue is control of YOU and what you do with your own BODY. The motives for this control are diverse, and they don’t really care what you call it, as long as their power is maintained. The important thing is to get them when they say half-truths or almost truths like “It is a HARMFUL (insert noun)”. Is it? Then harmful to WHOM and HOW? The truthful answer to those questions are what they fear. They’d much rather you argue about WHETHER it is harmful or not, or whether it is a DRUG or not…

    One mans poison is another man’s medicine, by the way. Yes, what something is is not the same necessarily as how it is used (plant vs. drug), and yes the terms we use matter (“drug” rather than “medicine”, just like “treatment” rather than “mutilation with beneficial side effects” such as “lobotomy”). So for example, to extend what I’m driving at (as to winning arguments against these creeps in the total field of discourse, not necessarily WITH them and to them), someone might say that Lobotomy has benefits and should be considered a valid treatment option for some “disorders”. We could argue all day about what should be a “disorder”, and we could even, as I have just implied above, address the poignant question as to what should be called a proper “treatment” in the best view of what medicine should properly “do”. But I would say that most powerful would be to ask them “Beneficial perhaps, but mostly for WHOM”.

    As any detective or investigator of any event will tell you, you have to ask first “who are the primary, and often well-hidden beneficiaries of this”?

  • Anonymous

    “an” is never used before a noun with a hard consonantal initial. Sorry, but that is almost as unforgivable as prohibiting pot.

  • Anonymous

    I have also realized that my typing skilzz are not so hot tonight, sorry for the unclarity. But, as usual, the laughs are on me if any of them are amusing. I didn’t sit there and scheme over every typed word, but I really should be a tad more careful. But after rereading it, it seems that most errors would be either understandable such that you could easily realize what was originally meant, or in some few cases are STILL TRUE on another interpretation, which is cool.

  • Anonymous

    Morality is conformity to ideals of right human conduct. Human religious moral codes are based on dictates from non humans. Each religion claiming the mantle of truth in interpretation. The result has been a history of war, tyranny, and human destruction. We can do better than that.

  • Anonymous

    If Tommy’s reasons/positions are as you speculated, (positions I mostly agree with by the way), then he should have stated those reasons and positions, instead of posting his off topic and discussion impairing belief that God does not exist. He makes it a point to claim God does not exist every time anyone even mentions God. He’s not contributing to the discussion, he’s preaching his theological position. It’s off topic and offensive and will only serve to dilute discussion of the primary topic.

    Just like the Constitution gives a written record that can be referenced, so does the Bible provide the same opportunity. There are several references in the Bible which clearly give credence and legitimacy to marijuana possession and consumption. Although Yavo was not citing the Bible in support of marijuana prohibition, when dealing with people that are, it’s much more effective to point out legalization supporting Bible references rather than attempt to discredit their doctrine by claiming “God does not exist”. What better argument can you have when dealing with an anti-marijuana Bible believer than the very text which they consider to be the word of God. I’ll include a few references straight from the Bible at the bottom of this comment. Let’s not forget the founders based the legitimacy of our rights on their belief our rights are NATURAL unalienable rights, “natural” meaning “endowed by our Creator”, “unalienable” meaning impossible to take away because they are God given. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness…” ~ Declaration of Independence

    I certainly agree with you about the need for an effective permanent editing tool on this format!

    It’s no secret how I feel about Ron Paul, the guy should be in the White House but that’s ONLY going to happen through tireless efforts by WE THE PEOPLE because we want OUR candidate to be elected bad enough to get his messages of Constitutional government, personal liberty, free markets, fiscal responsibility (and the rest of his excellent platform) known and supported by the majority of the voters. Ron Paul is the best voice We The People and the Constitution have! He’s the exact opposite of a bankster puppet installed by their corporate buying power, which is exactly what we’ve had with several administrations.

    “It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds.” ~Samuel Adams. Everyone should watch Ron Paul on youtube and see what you think of him when you hear his own words straight from his own mouth rather than what the bankster owned mainstream media says about him… pass it on!

    One of the things I admire most about Dr. Paul is he’s willing to let people know his personal position on religion but he refuses in any way to force his beliefs on anyone else.

    I respect your opinion that: “God hasn’t been helping any of us in these two very important issues (POT and the POT-US)”. However, my opinion is that God is always willing to help but He’s made the path to His help available only to those that seek help through the methods He revealed. Expecting help from God without accessing it as He directed is kind of like standing in front of a fireplace and yelling “give me heat” and planning on putting in wood and igniting it AFTER you get the heat. If you’re going to get the results you want you have to take the proper actions.

    It’s worth noting that contrary to popular belief, this Country was founded by a group that was primarily Christians. In their wisdom they gave us freedom to practice religion as we see fit or not to believe at all if that’s your choice. I believe they did this knowing full well that Christianity in it’s true form has no problem withstanding intense scrutiny. If you look at the timeline it wasn’t until this Country began our exclusion of God and all things Biblical from our government affairs that we began our dramatic downward spiral toward tyranny, bankruptcy and 3rd world status.

    The fact that the Bible can be referenced in support of our right to own, consume and use the cannabis plant for the benefit of man is the most powerful tool we have to combat the rants of anyone that would attempt to use the Bible in support of marijuana prohibition. Here’s some Biblical proof:

    Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
    Psalms:104:14 He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth;
    Psalms:104:15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man’s heart.
    Ezekiel:34:29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.
    Matthew:15:10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
    Matthew:15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
    KJV Holy Bible

    I urge everyone to read:
    MARIJUANA AND HEMP THE UNTOLD STORY, Thomas J. Bouril, WHY IS MARIJUANA ILLEGAL, Pete Guither and the free online book: The Emperor Wears No Clothes, The Authoritative Historical Record of Cannabis and The Conspiracy Against Marijuana. Click the links to those titles on this webpage:
    Internet Explorer web browser: http://jsknow.angelfire.com/home
    All Other Browsers: http://jsknow.angelfire.com/index.html

    (Many of the uses for the hemp/marijuana/cannabis plant, other than as a drug, are included in the references above, if you don’t know about those uses, some of the Bible references may not seem relevant, or to support our God given natural right to this plant. I have shut down many a person’s argument that tried to use the Bible in support of marijuana prohibition by citing those verses! Several became supporters of legalization.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A6U55GQYPAWUHB5HM4IVIRVV64 sissie

    Sorry… the belief in “effective vaccination” drives me crazy…

    Polio was never cured by vaccines, it was just relabeled.
    Meningitis is one thing it’s called now.
    “there are some 30,000 to 50,000 cases of viral meningitis per year in the United States alone. That’s where all those 30,000 – 50,000 cases of polio disappeared after the introduction of mass vaccination”—Viera Scheibner

    vaccinations work EXTREMELY WELL if you make money from providing medicines for chronic diseases..

    If you think they help you be healthy, you’re being mislead.

    Even Salk admitted his vaccines CAUSED many of the cases of polio.

    Remember how common it was to have your tonsils removed?

    Well your tonsils ARE your immune function to deal with polio…most of the deaths happened in people who had tonsillectomies…..

    We all recognize how horrible the pharmaceutical cartel is for human beings, except when it comes to vaccines….

    puzzling….

  • Anonymous

    Oh but of course! Have to guarantee those corporate profits. That’s the only reason it has been kept as a Schedule I drug all this time….because BigPharma couldn’t profit from it, and BigPrison towns would lose money if i was legalized. America: Land of the Greedy & Corrupt.

  • Anonymous

    Guess who owns the patent on medial marijuana? Just guess. Go ahead. Look it up

    for the lazy>>>>(answer: the US government)

  • http://www.facebook.com/dchoubak Dara Choubak

    I’ve tried Marinol before (friend has/had purchasing license in Toronto) and i’ll be honest….being a regular enough smoker, it had almost no effect on me. Which would make me think that if someone is suffering from cancer has has therefore become a regular smoker, would it even be useful for them?? and it was pretty expensive too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dchoubak Dara Choubak

    From the DEA site: “In recent years there has been a dramatic increase in the number of emergency room mentions of marijuana use. From 1993-2000, the number of emergency room marijuana mentions more than tripled.”

    So dude drinks like a fish, smokes a doobie to calm himself down but then is in a car accident. He had THC in him so that must be why he got into the accident.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dchoubak Dara Choubak

    Heck…people will smoke it wether or not it’s pharma-cized because there’s nothing as good as a nicely rolled doob after a rough day at work.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dchoubak Dara Choubak

    Two-party state with a long list of broken promises and incorrect policies..

  • http://www.facebook.com/dchoubak Dara Choubak

    That’s what happens when you let someone from Hollywood become the President.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dchoubak Dara Choubak

    As the director of ‘The Inside Job’ said at the Oscars last night, these banksters destroyed the economy and yet not a single one is in jail. There’s a reason why there’s no accountability that high up.

    i’m with you jsknow

  • http://www.facebook.com/dchoubak Dara Choubak

    Well….there is ONE pill that i’d willingly take; a little magical crystal known as MDMA.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dchoubak Dara Choubak

    The ultimate authority is the human mind. Why? because reality is understood through each person’s perception of the surrounding environment and world. And through that perception we realize and understand things and that helps us shape our own reality. Each person has a slightly different perception of the world through various upbringings and cultural difference, which means that each person is living in their own alternate version of what we like to call Reality.

    Seeing this, one can determine that WE ourselves are the kings of our own REAL domain. God was created as a way of sharing this knowledge with the masses not capable of coming to these conclusions themselves.

    I have no issue with various creeds as long as they don’t spew propaganda against others and leave people to make their own minds up.

    Remember, the ultimate authority lies with you and you alone. Take control.

  • Anonymous

    The only “real” solution to the glut of dope (of all kind) in America is decriminalization. The failed philosophy of trying to protect someone from themselves serves no constructive purpose, and in fact creates a giant criminal class of slugs who otherwise would be near worthless and far less of a threat. The bullshit factor in pot is legendary, both in the cons AND pros, perpetuated on one side by the fictional idiocy of reefer madness, and on the other by by it’s addicts and peddlers. It is a destructive substance that makes well studied and documented irreversible changes in brain functions, but trying to ban it’s use is like trying to ban adolescent sex, not possible. A persons dope should be like their religion, nobody elses business so long as it harms only themselves. If everyone were allowed to grow the stuff the money in peddling would disappear overnight, and would enable the saving of untold millions of enforcement dollars, and thousands of soggy brained saps would no longer have to go to prison to learn the finer points of “brotherly love”. Were legalization up for vote I would actively campaign for it. I used it far too long myself, I know what it cost me and many around me, but it DIDN’T lead to “harder” stuff nor did it cause any kind of violent or antisocial behavior, just the insidious denial. If the general public had these realistic facts to consider instead of the phony medical bullshit which they don’t (rightfully so) buy, we could conceivably get some positive movement on the issue. I’d rather one truthful woman tell me I’m ugly, than a thousand liars tell me how handsome I am!

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