Kucinich: Obama should face liberal primary challenger in 2012

By Sahil Kapur
Friday, February 11, 2011 13:56 EDT
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WASHINGTON – Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) said Thursday that President Barack Obama “absolutely” ought to face a Democratic primary challenge from the left in 2012, predicting it would make him “stronger.”

“I think primaries can have the opportunity of raising the issues and make the Democratic candidate a stronger candidate,” Kucinich told CSPAN’s Washington Journal. “I think it’s safe to predict that President Obama will continue to be the nominee of the Democratic primary, but he can be a stronger nominee if he receives a strong challenge in a primary.”

But it won’t be him, warned Kucinich, a seven-term Democratic congressman who ran for his party’s nomination for the presidency in 2004 and 2008. (He dropped out mid-way through the 2008 primaries and endorsed Obama.)

“I intend to run for reelection in the House,” he said.

The Ohio Democrat said it’s “not up to me to say” who should challenge Obama next year, adding that “I’m focusing on being reelected to the House of Representatives.”

Kucinich’s remarks reflect a shift in stance from an interview with Raw Story last October, when he said a primary challenge to Obama would only weaken the president and help propel the GOP to victory.

“I think anybody who runs against Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination would be handing the presidency to the other party on a silver platter,” he said at the time.

No viable liberal candidate has stepped up to challenge Obama, motivating analysts to write off the president’s renomination in 2012 a foregone conclusion. Sitting presidents also rarely face reelection challenges from within their party.

But a coalition of hundreds of prominent liberal and anti-war activists have pledged not to support Obama’s reelection is he doesn’t reverse his support for the Afghan war and take on the military-industrial complex.

This video is from CSPAN’s Washington Journal.

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  • Anonymous

    I like Dennis, but I do not want a weakened Obama to go into the election. I do not want a repub to win. I would rather fight the fight with a Dem in the White House.

  • Anonymous

    At this point, a challenge from the middle would be to the left of Obama.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Although I tend toward the Constitutionalist-Libertarian perspective on many political-economic issues, I cannot disagree with Kucinich on this at all. A challenge to Obama/Hillary would be great to see and I am sure many liberals-progressives-leftists would like to see it as well.

  • Guest

    He is already weak. Look at the promises, look at the actions. “C’mon, Rethugs. Let’s be buds”. WEAK!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4R2P2BMMM5JTCYWGEU4YW6UWQ Dago T

    Run Dennis, run!!!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/NOZNKTI6HAEMMIGFGPGHPRYSLI DaleF

    I don’t have any faith that anything constructive will happen in electoral politics with the Democratic/Republican and their moneyed overlords stranglehold over it. They’ve got a tighter grip than Mubarak did.

  • Anonymous

    Lets see, he supports the patriot act (unconstitutional). He continues Bush’s wars. He has done jack shit for the environment and social justice (He was not a driving force to repeal DADT). He has bailed out corporations and puts them ahead of people. He continued tax cuts for the rich. His health care policy was Bob Dole’s old plan. He is against legalizing mary. He continues America’s support of both oil companies and dictators around the world. In what sense of the word does he follow Democratic Ideals?

  • BrainRagYell
  • Guest

    As much as I would LOVE to see it, it ain’t gonna happen. Dennis loves serving “We the People” and if he were to lose, he would not be able to return to the House. Add that to the redistricting going on in Ohio and you have the BEST candidate for “We the People” not in the primary.

  • Guest

    The people united to make Mubarak disappear. I’m sorry the U.S. citizenry is too cowardly to leave the comfort of their couches and ACT for the greater good.

  • Anonymous

    But if Obama runs and wins, then the repubs do win…

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ hounddogg

    Ron Paul + Ralph Nader…

  • hegesias

    You think Obama will be dem this time?

  • hegesias

    Thank you, Dennis. You are always supportive of the people versus the money machine. Now get rid of that ridiculous hairpiece, please.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TX3MXXPF52BXCKGNLDNPADILPQ paul rogers
  • Anonymous

    Of course he has passed some SMALL social programs, that is what keeps YOU inline. He has done absolutely nothing major. As I say, the only difference between the rethuglican’ts and the dumbocrats in the letter C. The thugs are OVERT about giving all the money and power to the moneyed and powerful, the dumbos are COVERT about it.

  • Anders Christensen

    A strong progressive challenge to Obama will simply not succeed in the end. And with Obama taking the nomination, what then? Why not go for a Third party candidate from the start?

    This is all a show that is put on, hoping to attract a significant portion of the voters, so afterwards to argue within the Democratic party that the politics should be turned to the left. It is a self-defeating strategy as Obama will secure the nomination in the end, and then he can argue that the centrist (i.e. right) agenda is the best.

    The leaders and near-Republicans in the Democratic party do not fear such a strategy. What they *do* fear, is a challenge from a Third party in the real election. But even that will probably only change (pun intended) their rhetoric, not their politics.

    There is only three ways to get a true progressive agenda on the table: 1) reform the Democratic party from within (haha), 2) Build a Third party that can truly challenge the Democrats, which will take years, if not decades of Republican domination; and 3) Make the the threat of a Third party so real that the Democrats will allow priority voting to at least be the second choice of the voters of the progressive Third party.

    None of the above are really attractive *and* realistic, so you’re just f….. well, you know.

  • Guest

    Grow up, Asshole!

  • Guest

    I don’t think it’s a hairpiece but, I agree, the dye job was a mistake.

  • Guest

    They confirmed that neither will run, either. Some talk of drafting Alan Grayson but no rumblings.

  • Anonymous

    If Dennis were to run idiots would think he was wacky because he would do what was right, not what Obama does for corporation, banks and military industry.

  • Anonymous

    I absolutely agree with Rep. Kucinich and have said so on this and other forums. I have received many negative comments for this position but if Obama retains the nomination and I’m sure he will he needs to be forced to position himself more to the left. The constant caving in to the “riech wing” such as Patriot act, tax cuts for the wealthy, continuation of the unconstitutional and illegal policies of the “Bush Crime Family”, continuation of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, failure to prosecute the war crimes of officials in the previous administration and many more but I think I’ve made my point.
    Even if he should not be re-elected I really don’t think it would be a real crisis because if a Retuglican does attain the office I have to believe that things will become so bad that maybe the “Teabaggers” will wake up and realize what a disaster that would be. For all intents and purposes Obama at this point is just another Rethugican anyway.

  • gypski®

    Every president deserves to be challenged just to keep them on their promises. If they don’t keep their promises, ditch them. Like Change You Can Believe In. Bring it Barry or you and Joe can go into retirement, or since you’re too young, Joe can go. You can spend your next years doing public service for free, not slopping at the trough like previous greedy bastard presidents with bullshit books and speaking fees that equal the yearly income of 100 US citizens.. edit: And I like Joe. Barry is a little shakey with the Chicago wing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M5FLH5JI4ZXJM422NAD6M5SS7U wc fields

    he did run, and the democrats turned their backs on him. buyer’s remorse.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KLF5SUA5RDYXG54WWF5SHMVRAI X

    Obama should face impeachment and prison. His support for torture is now getting in the way of democracy in Egypt. It was bad enough when his support for torture got in the way of democracy in the United States.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KLF5SUA5RDYXG54WWF5SHMVRAI X


  • Anonymous

    give em hell, dennis! you’re the only integrity in congress, now feingold’s gone. screw obummer the obomber and his re-authorized rendition torture chambers, endless wars, corporate-commie bushisms letting 19% stay unemployed eternally while wallstreeters still get billion-dollar-bonuses…maybe we should just hope that the talk about 2012 and ‘the end of the world as we know it.’ is true

  • Anonymous

    before the election, rolling stone suckered like so many into backing obama to next bumer warmongering torturer… they were ridiculing kucinich regularly. and i see idjits in comments saying things about dennis like, ‘he’s so nutty, he tried to pass a bill banning space-based mind-weapons, as if such things actually exist…’

    well, such ignorance… since 1993, i get MIT’s tech review emerging tech updates daily. 4 times in the past 2 years they have had articles on japanese/french/DARPA mind-reading technologies. the japanese director says they now get direct text and sketchy images from the brain and that by 2020, high-resolution video! french/DARPA mission is to make that tech remote from space…

    thought-crime anyone? coming soon to a totalitarian state near you. are there any other sorts of states on the earth now?

  • Anonymous

    Come on, Dennis, WTF? Don’t make me write you in.

  • Anonymous

    I would love to see Bernie Sanders run in the presidential primary.
    We need to attack these Pro War , Pro Corporate & wealth which has taken over the control of the democrat party.
    They control the purge strings and the power to support their own corporate candidate , In total disregards of the wishes or concerns for the middle class citizens of our nation.

  • Anonymous

    Aw c’mon, it’s kind of funny! Lighten up!

  • Anonymous

    What happened in Egypt should happen here. It’s our only hope.

  • Sarcasmo

    Kucinich is obviously a racist!

  • Anonymous

    Well we have a repub in the White House now. His name is Barrack Obama in case you didn’t know.

  • P Matthews

    McLean, Virginia — Ignorance shows.

  • Carol Davidek-Waller

    Absolutely! A genuine centrist would look like a liberal compared to ‘right of Reagan’ Obama.
    Whatever happens, I’m not voting for that dog again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ESQMZ34URJNXQ4XGKHZMOMIW5E Crow

    Thank you Captain Obvious……….

  • Carol Davidek-Waller

    He isn’t and this has nothing to do with race. Lousy policies are lousy policies no matter what the color of your skin.

  • Anonymous

    It’s all well and good to have a gadfly like Kucinich around to remind us of to what we should aspire and how much better it would be to have truly grand change; however, Kucinich saying this is the way things SHOULD be is about the same as John Lennon singing “Imagine”. We all agree with the sentiment, but the reality is something else. When Kucinich starts going off on the “Obama needs to be primaried” crap then it’s evident that he’s fallen a little too heavily in love with his message and forgets that politics is about what’s doable and attainable, not about what we wish we could do and attain.

    I’ll stick with Obama. At least he’s got a sense of reality and proportion and understands the limitations which come with his position. Easy to stand on the outside and criticize. Maybe Obama should let Kucinich come in and sit at his desk for about 24 hours and tell him to knock himself out and try to get all that change he thought would be so easy for Obama.

  • http://www.facebook.com/raymond.strand Raymond Strand

    Ah the dumb comments come out again. Is Obama Liberal enough? No he’s not. Is Kucinich someone who is Liberal enough? Sure I guess so. Can Kucinich or anyone that Liberal get elected? I doubt it.

    That’s the problem we face, given the way the System is set up there is absolutely no chance a Liberal can get elected to the White House. Not only that but have sufficient numbers of support in Congress to accomplish anything.

    You guys are getting into the same problem Libertarians get into. Libertarians every year waste millions running a Presidential candidate with no hope of winning. If you want a truly Liberal present we have to start with Liberal School Boards and Liberal City Councils. We need to grow a grassroots Liberal movement and sustain it for years.

  • Guest

    It is childish, imbecilic comments like that which gave us Kerry in 2004 and Obama in 2008.
    Plus it is just plain disrespectful of this good man on many levels.

  • Anonymous

    What a self-absorbed nitwit. There’s ego, and then there’s ego without any genuine qualities or virtues to back it up –that’s DK. Apparently he’s aspiring to the mantle of Ralph Nader as King of the Pretentious Wimps.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EHJJXSTSSOCXLTSQBUVIDYUF7M Dave

    What the hell are you talking about ?

    Obama was perceived to be much more liberal than he turned out to be and he got elected. And you are calling other people’s comments dumb ?

    No way am i voting for that sell out. He betrayed us and if you vote for someone who betrays you you vote for more betrayal in the future.

  • http://www.facebook.com/raymond.strand Raymond Strand

    Yeah of course we get idiots who think there is no difference between the current President and the opposition. We’d be in Iran right now if McCain was elected. Mubarak would have been propped up even longer. We’d be at threat level Red to suppress media attention of VP Palin. There would be no bad but better than the alternative Health Care bill. Women wouldn’t have the right to get financial compensation for Gender discrimination. 2011 wouldn’t be the last year in History Gays are getting kicked out of the military. Student loans would still be given to banks to screw students as bad as possible.

    Yeah absolutely no difference. Is Obama the President I want him to be? No. Is he much better than the alternative you better believe it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    A challenge in the primary? No, O’Bumbler needs a challenge in the general election.

    Dennis Kucinich? Let’s get that Keebler Elf in there.
    How about Ralph Nader? Another Nader Raider campaign would be great.
    Draft Michael Moore? Why not? He’s up for the working stiff.

    Let’s get a REAL Progressive in there to stand up to O’Bumbler.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KSIB2PGTAXFCPCMQ74NRZ4UUJM Beerman

    I’d love for a true Progressive to run. I don’t think they would stand a chance, unfortunately.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    If we are talking about talk vs action, even Kucinich, Grayson,and Paul have all acceded to Party affiliation and with that comes the party rules which have steered the Country into a cul de sac. It would be great if it were as simple as Dennis points out, but there is no room for being cavalier in todays process. Look at Egypt, The Suffragettes, The Civil Rights Movement, Stonewall, The Bonus Marchers who were gunned down by their own military led by young Douglas MacArthur , any movement of change has to take to the street and the entrenched powers have increasingly sized up the American Citizen and reworked the Network to keep us fatted cows content and smug with carrots and sticks. I am in my 50s and still don’t understand the injustices that are either met with yawns , or supported by people with intense hatred of the average citizen who struggles against unemployment, homelessness, and is suckered by the political, business, and judicial sectors. Think what you want, it did feel great to elect the first Black President…but the biggest joke was on us…his words were just that.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KSIB2PGTAXFCPCMQ74NRZ4UUJM Beerman

    Obama got elected because the US people had decided they had enough of the Republicons and McGrumpy turned of a large swath of the conservative base. Obama also ran a perfect campaign.

  • Anonymous

    Kucinich, a gadfly? Now we all know you.

    Obama was never a liberal, never a realist. He’s a corporatist and a militarist. Those of us who refused to be speechified looked at his history and his voting record.

    Obama is more the gadfly than Kucinich. He was against the war when he had no vote in it – but once in the Senate, he never met a war-funding bill he didn’t love. Liked telecom immunity, too, though he promised never to vote for it.

    Once president, he hasn’t missed a chance to grab for even more power than his despicable predecessor. Nor has he hesitated to expand the war in Afghanistan. Lovely guy, launching drone strikes, killing civilians without a second thought.

    Expanded our internal police state, too. Even makes jokes about the obnoxious un-Constitutional pat-downs (to which his wife and children don’t have to submit).

    You go ahead and stick with Bush III. You’ll deserve everything you get.

    It’s not the desk, it’s the power-mad, war-mongering, corporation-loving hypocrite behind it.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KSIB2PGTAXFCPCMQ74NRZ4UUJM Beerman

    Bernie would be awesome!! Not gonna happen though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Valentine/1277133078 Michael Valentine

    Run Dennis run.

  • http://twitter.com/Howieisright Howieisright

    They love to pull that site out of they’re ass. Good points Kissmyliberalbutt to bad most here a blind liberal followers. Funny they put the start treaty on it when it was started with Raygun. I guess Obama can thank Mitch McConnell for that one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Valentine/1277133078 Michael Valentine

    I hear you Beerman, still I’d like to vote for another progressive/liberal besides McGovern in 72.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FONW6K3ZWV4BU4ZTCDCSZHHH6E Mick Jagger

    Hell Yeah He Does!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Anyone but Oblahblah, the bait-and-switch failure, in 2012!

  • Anonymous

    Let’s pick a candidate who meets the progressives needs, BUT have him run as a conservative and when he gets elected and starts passing bills and making decisions we all find out he is really a liberal! You know, like Obama did! He ran as a liberal and when he became Prez we found out he is really a closet republican!

  • Anonymous

    If what you are saying is that Oblahblah’s “words” were just “words” not matched by any action he had taken, then I am in agreement with you.

  • Anonymous

    “O’Bumbler.” I like that.

  • Anonymous

    Nader couldn’t win if he was the only person running for the office.

  • Anonymous

    Ok. Let’s take Egypt as the model.

    Let’s shut down the country and surround the White House, until the lying, bait-and-switch, corporatist sleazebag – and his trash talking, race-baiting wife – in the white house get out and give the country back to the progressives who (naively) elected him in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    … as if a “perfect campaign” is what it is all about.

  • Anonymous

    Get over it.

  • Anonymous

    The reason we are at this point in time is;

    They think the voting populace has no choice but to vote for who ever they put in front of us, and it’s worked so far. But I think in 2112, … I’m going to toss in the towel and give it to the republitards. After the population see’s exactly who these corporate fascist really are and to whom they are wholly owned by, … it will kill the republitards once and for all.

    I’m not going to compete against the citizens united case by tossing in what little money I have left to continue this facade of a fair election process. I’ll sit back and watch the country burn to the ground and then and only then, … will the Phoenix rise from the ashes.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    Down with Barack!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    How about Kucinich / Paul 2012?
    Mobilize both the anti-police-state left and the anti-police-state right?

  • Anonymous

    You are wrong. Ron Paul would work to abolish the board of ed, and privatize everything else. I like this president and I think it would divide the democratic party even worse than the republicans are divided. Obama has done almost everything he said he would do. What is wrong with you people? Don’t you know that he has had to fight the republicans every step of the way? The republicans clearly are not working with the best interest of the American people in mind. They only want to make Obama a 1 term president. That is their ultimate goal. Why would you want to fragment the democratic party in the face of that opposition? Think about that, please.

  • Anonymous

    I guess the Egyptians shouldn’t have revolted if they thought like you did. No offense intended but recent events should demonstrate that liberalism prevails always and a liberal totally has an easy path to victory: fairness, justice and peace. After that, it’s all window dressing. Down with corporations, up with people. Down with the rich, up with the people. Down with the army, up with peace. Down with the military industrial complex, up with living wages for all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wolf-Lacey/1210864053 Wolf Lacey

    Force the issues we stand for to be stated–clarity is the search

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wolf-Lacey/1210864053 Wolf Lacey

    Stated case of clarity by O’Bama on his stance of CHANGE that hasn’t come anywhere near he said it would.

  • Anonymous

    I clicked liked by accident, and I certainly disagree that Obama is better than any alternative. Obama is worse than Bush. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again if I have to: Obama is worse than Bush because way too many people are fooled into believing that Obama is better than Bush.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is NOT a Democrat… He’s a Republican. You are very mistaken. Call a pig a stallion all you want, it’s still just a pig!

  • Guest

    Nothing Barrack can say at this point to CHANGE anything from a progressive point of view.
    1) patriot act
    2) breaking up big banks and prosecuting
    3) dubya and dick off the hook
    4) 2 plus wars then, 2 plus wars now
    5) single payer
    6) PHARMA
    7) NAFTA
    8) supported blue dogs over progressives
    9) abysmal environmental record including Monsanto GMO & BP oil catastrophe
    10) tax cuts for rich
    and, that’s just quickly off the top, good grief charlie brown!

  • Hassan i Sabbah

    Is this before or after he faces a firing squad?

  • Anonymous

    You have to admit that Obama has often disappointed those who saw him as a liberal. However, I don’t recall Obama claiming he was liberal. He’s always indicated he planned to govern from the center. I favor getting out of the wars and single payer but I’d NEVER stoop so low as to vote in a way that would lead to control by the Talbaptist Rushthuglicons. It wouldn’t matter now if Obama was replaced by Feingold… the House is in the hands of the GOBP. The President is not dictator. I sympathize with those who want more from the President, but ‘nothingoes’ is right. Why intentionally look to dump Obama just to replace him with goober 1, goober 2 or goober 3? It might be a good idea to at least win back the House and keep the Senate BEFORE you call for a liberal candidate to, in all likelihood, lose the election.

  • Guest


  • hourglass1

    gadfly = goad; nuisance = dennis kucinich? hmm. again with the sweeping pronouncements and summations eh, lawmom?

    i agree that challenging obama is not doable or attainable, but not for the reasons you try to convince us are ‘the limitations of the presidency’ – no, the reason is that the owners of everything, including candidates, incumbents, campaigns, media and election results, won’t allow it.

    the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government are nearly all lawyers. that’s the problem. lawyers are professional liars. oaths of office in conflict with their own self-interest result in the hypocrisy and outright criminality we see in tax policy, economic policy, never-ending resource or regional influence wars, and two separate justices systems at home; one for the rich and one for everybody else.

    obama will win in 2012 with even a lower voter turn out. because he is the man selected to then slash holes in the budget on the backs of the poor – these early cuts include heating fuel, food stamps, and other assistance programs. but the owners intend to use a democrat to come after the big enchilada ‘social security’ even though it is a paid into insurance program and not an entitlement program.

    kucinich is merely pointing out how important it is to identify true progressives and to work to take over the democratic party. dennis’ district has been redrawn so radically, he isn’t even sure which seat he should run for to stay in congress.

  • Anonymous

    I voted for Kucinich right from the get go…but of course the Corporate Media did every thing they could to make sure that Kucinich would become a “joke” like (Ross Perot) because they knew Kucinich and the go-nads to stand up to them…and they just couldn’t HAVE that..so they talked about his being short..about seeing little green men..about his “kooky wife” about his ears…any thing they could do to make sure he would become unelectable…in any way they could…ridicule seemed to be their best shot…I would still vote for him over Obama…but the rest of the country…? Are they still to stupid to get it…?It’s NOT a beauty contest…could we get a LIBERAL “movie star” (Reagan, a liberal but NOT a Corporate patsy like Reagan (and Obama appears to be) was) and get Dennis as the VP (first)….and then maybe President later…I wonder…worth a shot…?

  • Anonymous

    I agree completely with your sentiments… but your analysis is just not going to happen anytime soon. Did you miss the results of the last election? Honesty, fairness and good intentions were drowned out by the better organized, highly funded Koch/Bros. & Fox. NO LIBERAL will be president in 2012… period. If you throw Obama away you hand the election to the GOBP. Have you looked at the makeup of the next 2 supreme court justices expected to retire soon. Both are liberals. All the conservative judges are still young and will be there for years to come. Tossing away Obama and thereby handing the Presidency to an empty suit like Mittens is shear madness. We would be far better off bitching about Obama less and getting better organized like the GOBP is.

  • Anonymous

    DK HAS to focus on re-election because the recent census means his state will lose at least one seat and his district may be absorbed. As a progressive I want DK in elected office, not running for a presidency he would easily lose and, with it, his House seat. Cutting off one’s nose to spite the face is not practical.

  • Anonymous

    “his trash talking, race-baiting wife”… I apologize for my classless response but… you are full shit.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Dennis…

    How are you going to get your credibility back? Just wondering.

  • Anonymous

    Citizens United is the worst SC Decision since Plessy v Ferguson. If you want to have it overturned then DO NOT let the GOBP into the White House. Obama’s appointments seem decent thus far. Dumping Obama to search for the perfect candidate who will LOSE is nuts.

  • Anonymous

    It is the first step toward what it’s all about.

  • Anonymous

    The quadrennial NH presidential primary presents a perhaps once-in-a-generation, last-chance opportunity to redirect our nation’s political center back towards the progressive populism and sanity that is in its heart and best interest, but has been distracted by the 30-yr right-wing campaign of ‘divide and conquer’.

    CW holds that the NH primary on the Democratic side will be uneventful, but if 3-6 outspoken, celebrated populist progressives can be persuaded to emerge, preferably including viable contenders, the results could be explosive. The NH presidential primary is an outsized PR megaphone that receives global and rapt attention for a whole year at a critical and formative time.

    Imagine the impact of the announcements of one candidacy after another other several weeks apart in the Spring contiguous with the launch of an energetic progressive community radio, tv and print campaign. Imagine high-profile political activists, spokespeople, and celebrities participating in wide-ranging events, e.g., interviews, debates, panels, rallies, concerts, etc. Imagine the first-round of candidate debates – with President Obama’s participation, generating continuing news and excitement.


    1. Grow a politically muscular populist progressive movement that can demand respect, attention, and real influence in national policy-making and implementation.

    2. Move President Obama to embrace at least a measure of real populist progressive policies, and welcome his progressive base as genuine policy partners.

    3. Re-energize Democrats with a strong progressive message and strengthen the President’s competitiveness in opposition to Republicans via the vigorous debate of a high-profile primary.

    4. Constrain Sarah Palin’s appeal from expanding beyond her core supporters.

    5. Raise national awareness of the truth and majority popularity of an honest, just, people-first government that could grow into a politically potent national movement of real hope and change.

    6. A secondary but by no means small benefit of raising public embrace of populist issues and solutions over the next year is the foundation it will foster for the nomination and election to Congress in 2012 of real progressive fighters (as opposed to the many “PINO’s” (Progressives In Name Only). If our primary tangible achievement by 2012 is the election of a profoundly more genuinely progressive Congress, this effort will have been worth it. Central to this strategy is that following the 2010 elections, many ‘mainstream’ Democrats may be more inclined to support such candidates when there’s no incumbent Democrat running.

    7. Building the infrastructure of alternative news and messaging via a network of progressive community radio stations, and progressive content on community tv and in NH newspapers, will provide a lasting foundation for progressive causes beyond the election cycle.

    As “New Democrats”, especially in the small but outsized politics and media of NH, we can counter-message effectively against right-wing propaganda by the multiple parallel messaging of a grassroots, people-first campaign. We can focus on individual stories of how current policy impacts real people which the bottom 98% of us can identify with. This can be fast-tracked to become an effective template for moving the national debate towards populism with the high-impact megaphone of the NH presidential primary. There’s no reason we can’t produce coordinated memorable appeals based on truth and personal experience that will resonate more effectively than right-wing appeals based upon slogans and divisiveness.

    Here’s a few among potentially many articulate populist opinion-leaders who might accept being drafted to run with strong progressive support behind them and with the fate of our nation for a generation hanging in the balance:


    Our universally-appealing message should be that America’s political system is broken and deeply corrupted. Bold leadership inspired by a popular uprising is required to correct this.

    Imagine the impact if they for once talked to voters like adults in promoting policies and tactics such as:

    1. Reform HCR by swapping a robust universal income-tiered Medicare buy-in for the present mandate to buy insurance companies’ defective and often deadly products

    2. Call Republicans’ bluff on tort reform

    3. 100% employment via transition of all offensive military operations to building the economic strength, prosperity and infrastructure of America here at home.

    4. Implement robust small-business access to capital & financing

    5. Settle the Israeli-Palestinian issue fairly

    6. Straighten out economic imbalances with China from a position of strength

    7. Restore and vigorously protect and defend civil liberties

    8. Roll back and curtail the security state

    9. Institute full federal government transparency of the actions of elected officials & appointees

    10. Implement universal rule-of-law

    11. End the bogus ‘war on terror’ – clean up genuine and ongoing malcontents via law enforcement

    12. Public pillory of both key elected officials and financial industry individuals responsible for Wall Street greed and abuse; re-enactment of Glass-Steagall (or equivalent), no-loophole Volker rule, et.al. reforms

    13. Full transparency required from both elected officials and lobbyists on all transactions between them

    14. Top priority support and encouragement for the development and implementation of renewable energy and green technology infrastructure.

    15. Constitutional amendment severely curtailing the role of money in elections

    16. Rigorous policing and enforcement of election integrity

    17. Restore public trust in government spending practices via elimination of pork projects, effective public debate on non-essential spending proposals, and a commitment to minimum spending to produce minimum taxation.

    18. Cut income tax rates for individuals and business by 50%, and classify all income the same whether personal, business, investment or inherited. Allow 100% deduction for capital investment in the year expended.

    19. Open-door immigration policy, but with privileges and entitlements limited to those with legal status. Strict enforcement of employer compliance.

    The heroic case of Julian Assange and Wikileaks is most instructive. It shows that the empire is not impregnable and that freedom-loving patriots have a chance yet to succeed in fighting for and restoring at least some measure of sanity to our world.

    While the authoritarian right-wing has little trouble marching together in effective lock-step, getting the left to all push together in the same direction has so far often been like herding cats. But it doesn’t have to be that way. Not this time. Not with so much at stake.

  • Anonymous

    It’s hard to argue with your assessment… but… losing the WH is NOT an option. What’s your plan? If you think it’s bad now, let Newt or Sister Sarah get the power. Obama knows you can’t govern if you are not elected. It’s a tightrope.

  • Anonymous

    I have the greatest respect for Bernie and would gladly vote for him. BUT IT AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN!

  • Anonymous

    “His support for torture is now getting in the way of democracy in Egypt.” I’m oblivious here… what’s your source? He’s called for Hosni to step down. I thought he handled the crisis superbly. You can only say so much publicly. The President has failed in numerous areas but this isn’t one as I see it.

  • Anonymous

    It SHOULD be just as you put it. But it’s not and I doubt it ever will be in my lifetime. Running for election tends to bring the candidates to the middle. Although the middle seems pretty damn far right to me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KLF5SUA5RDYXG54WWF5SHMVRAI X

    The new vice president of Egypt is the Bush-Obama torture tsar, the guy who handled extraordinary renditions and torture (and murder?) for Bush and Obama. Obama now has a huge incentive to see to it that democracy never comes to Egypt. He wants his torture guy to run the show.

  • Anonymous

    I have extra bricks if you need one to drop on your other foot. My friend found them while searching for the non-existent ‘perfect’ candidate.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Obama should loooose his job and gets his sorry ass back to Chicago

  • parrots_abound

    Don’t forget :

    1) He lied about Russia attacking Georgia, when it was the other way around.

    2) He lies continuously about Iran.

    3) Sided with Israel and kissed their ass even after they MURDERED innocent civilians on the Gaza Flotilla including an American kid who was shot execution style. He said nothing of it.

  • parrots_abound

    Obama has done everything he promised to do?

    Name them….and follow it by stating their level of importance to the nation or tasks at hand.

    Also, go back to Obama’s campaign against McCain and tell me how their platform differed.

    Hint, it was almost identical word for word.

  • Anonymous

    i resisted watching the Obama Deception for a long time but after seeing how he handled the transition right after he was elected, and voluntarily surrounded himself with Ex goldman sachs “geniuses”, and jettisoned his progressives into political siberia, i lost faith on a personal level about government in general. Kucinich, once again, is right on the mark.

  • Anonymous

    Thom Hartmann is continually making this case and I don’t agree. First Thomas could be blown out by the DOJ for Illegally falsifying financial disclosures (which is a crime BTW) but with Holder in place as the AG that will not happen. You see we already have a Rethuglican President in the WH so what the hell is the difference???? As far as the 2 he has sent to the SC only time will tell. This guy has sold the American people a bill of goods. If it turns out that he’s defeated in “12″ by a REAL liberal then great. If another Rethuglican gets in maybe the country will have to slide further in the HOLE before people wake the hell up and realize that the “Reich wingers” will NOT do anything to help ordinary people.

  • Anonymous

    Obama should face a challenge from the left, right and center!! Anything to send him back to Chicago.

    It would be a thousand times better to have Reverend Jessee Jackson as president than this phony. You will be lucky if you still have Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac by 2012.

  • Anonymous

    It’s certainly tougher now than it was last election. And that was tough enough, considering all the would-be lefties who rallied ’round the two worst of the candidates. I’m always amazed that people who insist that the corporate media lie through their collective teeth still line up to buy the shite the media sell.

    Any ‘second-tier’ candidate would have been preferable. And an honest progressive leading the Senate, (say, reforming the filibuster rules). And a more aggressive leader in the House. Had Pelosi been willing to open needed investigations, they might have had a chance. Well, the House is lost, and it is questionable whether it can be re-won this election. That may be worse than prospects of losing the White House. After all, legislation begins in the House of Representatives, not the White House. The fact is, there aren’t enough liberals in government, and supposed liberals and progressives have for some time refused to believe that they can take back the Democratic Party.

    Those that are willing to ignore the nay-sayers and scare-mongers are busy indulging the belief that somehow a third party will magically solve our problems, despite – or due to – the fact that they have no understanding of how a third party would or would not fit into our system of government.

    America runs on fear and hysteria. [Even many supposed liberals think we need porno-scanners and sexual molestation in airports to protect us from (non-existent) terrorists. Nobody bothers to think about the fact that it is far simpler to bring down an airplane as a non-passenger.] Fear and hysteria.

    And it was fear and hysteria, supplemented gullibility, that guaranteed the Obama vs Clinton theater. The media declared all second-tier candidates ‘not viable’ and would-be supporters abandoned them before the primaries were half over. (I believe that’s referred to as a self-fulfilling prophesy.) If the electorate cannot stand up for their (supposed) principles in a primary, when can they?

    I could come up with plans that would be viable in a nation with a citizenry that was not so willing to be led about by their noses – but in America? Not likely.

    The easiest scenario is to demand that the Dem ‘leadership’ force Obama to stand aside and not run for re-election. But American ‘liberals’ would never do that. They haven’t the guts of the wrong-wing loonies; nor do they have the faith – and I do not mean religious faith.

    Just look at your question. You’re already falling victim to the fear of ‘Newt or Sister Sarah’ – and we haven’t even gotten to the run-up to the primaries. Unfortunately, you are not alone.

    All those millions who thought they were voting for change. They never realized – and they still don’t – that they will not see change until they change themselves. Until they are willing to turn away from the one or two candidates approved by the DNC / DLC, they will continue to see no real change. And they do not see the irony.

    With the leadership of each side more than willing to lie and manipulate their own – aided by the corporate propaganda machine – and an electorate willing to be manipulated, I have deep concerns about the future of this nation.

    My personal plan: finish up a little disagreement with a certain arm of this sleazy police state, and then, if it goes well for me – (and perhaps even if it does not) – apply to some civilized countries for political asylum. More irony, that: political asylum in order to escape a political asylum. I’m getting old, and, overall, Americans depress and frustrate the hell out of me.

  • Anonymous

    Kucinich knows a primary challenge will have little effect on politics in 2012 America. Obama can just as easily deceive his way into the naïve “liberal” hearts then, as he did in 2008. All rhetoric all the time. It means nothing, wake up, study the man’s actual deeds, don’t listen to the words. Remember the line, “How do you know when a lawyer/ politician is lying? Their lips move”. He’s both and it’s true.

    That being said I’m still for a primary challenge, not to move the Great Deceiver left, but to kick his lying ass into the unemployment line. Unfortunately any candidate that makes it to the top level of American Political Jeopardy has been pre-approved to “not change” anything that might erode our faltering empire.

    The elite power structure that runs the show, in America and a good part of the world, are always working to control politics. It’s a full time job for the embedded operatives and the payoff, for the elites, is control of governments and all the benefits that entails. They are shrewd, evil, rich, powerful and hate to lose. Any method at their disposal, if it continues to fool the naïve voters, is considered fair game.

    Recent history has shown some of their tactics at work, specifically Bush/Gore 2000, Bush/Kerry 2004 and McCain/Obama 2008. Each of these elections contained suspicious anomalies that helped to decide the eventual outcome. No serious investigations materialized in part due to major failure of corporate main-stream media to truly investigate. The MSM is not liberal, that’s a lie. They’re in it for the profit and they have decided that maintaining the status quo is the best way to achieve that end.

    Bush 2000, 2004 presidencies are history. He’s a lying, murdering, torturing, despicable human being yet to discover retribution for his heinousness but there’s still time. He has recently discovered he’s not that welcome anywhere, anymore.

    Obama will also discover that rude reality when he has vacated the position of Figurehead-in-Chief. The world already sees the continuity from Bush to Obama, no change, just more of the same imperial, militaristic badgering of the rest of the world. It’s a real shame the American voters can’t see the Orwellian lies this political creature spews everyday. I read these posts and those at other sites and wonder what does it take for the yet hopeful apologists of Obama to wake up and smell the vile, insidious nature of this man. He has used you and all that thought he stood for anything humane. No, he’s the Great Deceiver.

    Politics are not to be taken lightly. Do the homework, read, study, share. Let’s get serious and change our destiny before it gets to the point where Egyptian methods are needed.

  • Anonymous

    There used to be a difference that mattered more than minutely but since, probably FDR, the pendulum only swings right. That’s where the money’s at and who can honestly say that Obama isn’t on the side of money and power.

    Even though he has signed into law some domestic improvements that help certain small segments of society the BIG destructive elements that affect all Americans are untouched or escalated since Bush. Wars ongoing and escalated, torture moved offshore ongoing and escalated, taxes reduced for rich/corporations ongoing and escalated, bailouts for Wall Street/banks ongoing and escalated, reduce personal freedom/privacy ongoing and escalated, reduce funding for social services/education to states ongoing and escalated.
    This is not a change I could vote for. We must draw a line in the ethical sand and say no more votes for lying, deceiving politicians.

  • Anonymous

    The big mistake will be to focus on the President and basically just the power of veto when it comes to laws and not focusing on the congress and senate, where the laws are created. Winning the primaries for the people whether they be Republicans or Democrats should be the real goal, the political parties are clearly a sham, who you can get up there during the primaries is the only thing that counts.
    The President is governed by the Senate and Congress, they control the figure head and they define the laws the figure must obey. So the goal is Labour Democrats and Green Republicans with corporate dogs as the minority Republicans and Democrats.

  • Anonymous

    Great post with so much insight not, obviously, understood by all posters.

    My personal preference is your statement, “I’m getting old, and, overall, Americans depress and frustrate the hell out of me.

    I feel the same and I am born and raised American.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know how great it was or who understood it – but I can see that almost nobody liked it. (To be honest, that’s one more than I expected.)

    I was born and raised here, too. Originally a military brat, born on a military base. Barely was I in the world, when I was unceremoniously grabbed by my heels and smacked by a US Marine Corps captain (with an M.D. after his name). Had I any reasoning power at the time, I might have recognized that as a promise of things to come.

  • http://stephenkirkland.com/ 4eyedjug

    I’d really like to see Kucinich run, but he’s probably well aware that a vegan would have a very difficult time getting elected, considering the bias of our culture. I imagine even an ordinary vegetarian would hardly ever pass the ‘tough-enough’ test. Why?

  • Anonymous

    I’m never voting Dem or Repub ever again in my life, and I’ve been voting since 1980.

    What we need are new parties. What we have now is one-party rule, and our votes are completely irrelevant.

    Almost no one here seems to get it. Expecting the current system to deliver a candidate who is actually willing to change things is like expecting your dinner order at McDonalds to be a gourmet meal.

    If we want to change this country we’re not going to do it by expecting our spoon-fed corporate candidates from the corporate Dem paraty and the corporate Repub party to be anything other than what they’ve been for the last couple of generations.

    Get out and make change, quit expecting to “consume” it from the tastes-great and less-filling models we are offered up.

    We have to force the change from the ground up. Everything else is utter bullshit, our elections are as bad as the halftime shows at the superbowls, just spectacles served up for our edification, and just as cheesy and godawful.

  • http://twitter.com/Howieisright Howieisright

    He promised an end to war, end to Guantanamo bay two major factors for his election win. Both bald face lies.

  • Anonymous

    There’s that idiotic argument again. Hell, it’s not even an argument, it’s just idiotic.

  • Anonymous

    to Kucinich and all progressive hopefuls

    run as an independent, run to break the duopoly that supports the oligarch corporate and security complex. We will not accept the same old deception

  • Anonymous

    Hand on Bible, I am a NH voter and swear I will not vote for Mr. Obama in the primary.

  • Guest

    Hand on Bible, I am a NH voter and swear I will not vote for Mr. Obama in the primary.

  • Anonymous

    Your not at HuffPo anymore. Most here are not blind to the truth.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    Indeed, he’s done a outstanding job at SHITING on the Left and Progressives.

    the DKKK may think twice about taking our vote for granted cuzzz

    not showing up to the Fuckin RIGGED elections IS ALWAYS an Option.

    Let alone voting for a F~ing repuke……. If he really pisses off

    Uncle Barak …..What have yo done for me lately ?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    …he oughtta dance with who brung him to this minstrel show .

  • Anonymous

    I cant imagine 4 more years with the neo-con trojan horse obummer.there wont be anything left to sell out of fuck up!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1046573071 Matt Mosley

    It should ALWAYS be the case that a current President is challenged for his office by his own party as well as the opposition to be sure that their side fully supports them.

  • Anonymous

    The real issue on the table here is money. When Kucinich was running it was said that he couldn’t attract money. What that means is that the positions he takes are not palatable to those who finance elections. In most cases, that which is palatable to money is not palatable to the people. No matter how many parties you have, that will not change. There are only 2 ways to break this circle. One is to educate voters regarding what the right wing nuts actually do when they get in power. The other would be meaningful campaign finance reform, something that we had a start on once but it is being systematically disassembled.

  • Anonymous

    I will be voting for any true progressive.

  • http://www.republithugs.com gfm975

    Obama has foresaken the views of progressives and liberals so he can make friends with the RepubliTHUGS, so hell yes, he needs a good primary challenge. I for one believe Anthony Weiner, or Alan Grayson might articulate our views and help Obama understand them better.

    Obama is President Milquetoast and because he is… we are in the back seat after working our butts of to elect him. Its time he and the RepubliTHUGS ride in the back of the bus… don’t you agree?

  • Roberthe

    I agree with Kucinich: The Democrats should be allowed the chance to have at least one candidate run in 2012 and since it’s obviously not Obama this is their best chance of getting someone on the ballot.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    I won’t be voting for Obama in 2012 so a Democratic primary challenger would be welcome.

  • Anonymous

    I’m all for a Weiner-Grayson ticket myself!

  • Anonymous

    An interesting thought, but . . . the vast majority of rank-and-file Wimpocrats SUPPORT Mr. O

  • Anonymous

    Those who voted for Mr O in 2008 KNEW that he supported the continued war and occupation in Iraq and supported the escalation of the war in Afghanistan . . . because he said so

    . . . and most continue to do so today

  • hegesias

    I would welcome a liberal challenge for Obama. If there is none, I will be voting for Bernie Sanders for President, whether he runs or not.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been saying perhaps for a couple years that it’s not just the political and economic systems that are broken, so is the judicial system. The Supreme Court is as illegitimate as is Obama and the rest of the contrived tea party. To quote Al Pacino, they’re all out of order.

  • Anonymous

    Dennis is right. The president should switch his party affiliation and run as the moderate Republican that he is, or else face a challenge from a genuine Democrat.

  • Anonymous

    What do you think a third party could accomplish?

    Do you have any idea how a third party would – or, more accurately, would not – function in our political system?

    The “tea party” was well planned: follow their lead and take back the Democratic Party.

  • dula

    We need a candidate Dem voters can be unified around…Obama is not the one.

  • Anonymous

    So Dennis is now handling Barry’s campaign?
    Dennis would have gotten my vote if he would have simply stood PROUD against all those REPUBLICAN LIES, starting with 911 – supporting a new investigation
    and continuing through HANGING bushy, after a fair and impartial trial.


  • dula

    The Tea Party was funded by wealthy Republicans like the Koch brothers and Dick Armey …rich Liberals prefer Centrist frauds like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
    There is no precedent for what is going to happen in 2012.

  • http://www.facebook.com/agent5959 Alan Pugh

    This is unequivocally not true. Obama stated he would have troops out in nine months and would shut down Gitmo within a year.

  • Anonymous

    Non sequitur.

    I know about the Koch brothers and the “tea party.”

    While you think you’ve scotched my argument, in fact you’ve supported it: the Koch brothers are politically savvy. Are liberals not savvy enough to replicate the “tea party” successes without a progressive version of the Koch brothers?

  • Anonymous

    I think we have a little Freudian slip by the socialist here, you said:

    “They control the “purge” strings and the power to support their own corporate candidate”

    Seems like the little socialist is getting a little ahead of himself

  • Anonymous

    You are mistaken. The ‘new’ vice president is now the ex-vice president.

  • dula

    Yes Liberals are savvy enough but it will mean taking to the streets and not politics as usual. Liberals have shown far more loyalty to their careers than they have shown for their country. The Right is correct when they criticize them for being elitist and classist. It is reflected in the fact that you view our exchange as an academic debate (“you think you’ve scotched my argument”) rather than a communication about the direction of what remains of our Representative Democracy.

  • Tyke

    Kucinich is in danger of losing his seat because of redistricting due soon as a result of the 2010 census.

    He’s already running for re-election. That is all,that this is about. Dennis is about Dennis.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WE3JWKWUY2R62UY5JMETECQBHE Dimitri Sokolov

    lol…Obama is finished. He has zero chance of winning again. Independents like me will never vote for Obama again and I don’t give a shit who runs against him.

  • Anonymous

    Do your own homework, Parrots. I don’t have time to write you an essay. Here’s a link to a list of his accomplishments as president. I too am very disappointed at the way the wars are going. We shouldn’t be there at all wasting lives and $$$. But you cannot deny that President Obama has done some very important things for our country, none of it with the help of republicans.

  • Anonymous

    Steven, as I stated before I disagree strongly with these wars. I have from the very beginning, when W first pointlessly invaded Iraq and took his eye off the real problem. It is a waste of lives and tons of money, money that we need here at home. I think we should be protesting in the streets to end the wars. You can bet if there was a draft, all troops would have been pulled out years ago.

  • Tyke

    … and yet you “Liked” comments calling the president “O’bummer”, saying if he was “anymore full of shit he would be leaving a brown, smelly trail behind him as he walked”, calling Democrats “Dumbocrats” and and a young woman a BIMBO.

    Good to see you’re so consistent in your DEMAND for treating folks with respect and not a HYPOCRITE like so may others!


  • Anonymous

    Your history is flawed: every great social advancement in this nation was due to liberals taking to the streets.

    Liberals are elitist and classist? I know your politics ! The only thing that gets the wrong-wingers into the streets is the selfish cry of ‘Me, me, me!’ : my taxes, my Medicare… Who wants to take away programs that help the disadvantaged? Not the lefties.

    Your ‘conclusion’ based on my choice of words is absurd.

  • Anonymous

    By the way, the correct answer to my question is: ‘No, not enough liberals are politically savvy.’ (They also lack patience.)

    This current crop seems to think that third parties are the answer.

    They do, however, take to the streets – and in larger numbers than ‘tea party’ loonies. It simply isn’t covered by the corporate media.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2YE2AYOGP4JM62ZAIXZ2EUJCVM noelle

    DAMN RIGHT HE SHOULD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    NOT INCREASE IT HAS F-ING OBAMA HAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    WE DO NOT NEED OBAMA AND HIS SOCIALIST VIEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    ….Noelle you forgot to mention Barry needs a proof of his birth certificate.

  • Anonymous

    Today is the Dems fault tomorrow Reps fault. We are going nowhere with this controlled puppets. What this country needs is a minimum of four political parties. You have to understand how the system works in order to fix it. It is called legal corruption and only applies to them.

  • Anonymous

    If the Egyptians can pull off what they did, we can surely find a candidate that shares “socialist” values that represents at least a FDR.

  • Anonymous

    Dennis, push Obama to the left in a primary? Good strategy for the Dems keeping the Presidency…If you are a Republican.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/QCOLME2YGHQK2YATXQFQ677Q34 Frances T

    And where is the progressive Democratic candidate who wants to sacrifice their political career to challenge Obama? I hear nothing but the crickets. There is no such person.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you think he made Hillary Secretary of State?

    I’ll give you a hint–it wasn’t because he knew she would be great at the job.

    I’ll give you another hint–he is one of the most devious presidents we ever had in the White House.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6VIII2XPU4HUPLANTLEJGSYN7A jARED

    To everyone calling Obama a conservative republican I think you will eat those words if we actually get another ‘real conservative in office with today’s attitude toward government. You will ‘have’ to eat those words actually, because unless you’re wealthy, that’ll be all that’s left P

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6VIII2XPU4HUPLANTLEJGSYN7A jARED

    Wow that’s the edited version? /backs away quietly

  • Anonymous

    The left fringe making waves for his own party. Won’t work. Kucinich is interesting, but his ideas are weak, ridiculous, etc. Not achievable, nor would we want them to be. If you want a race in 2012, best to keep Congressman K comments to Cspan 3 or 4. He is the new Ralph Nader…if he has that much influence.

  • Anonymous

    I totally agree with Dennis. Obama’s presidency has been nothing but a sham. He has sucked the Repigicans dicks at the cost of the poor and middle class. That motherfucker and his bullshit hope and change agenda will never get my vote again. We need a progressive liberal to take the country back to a country of production and not just service.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Kucinich as proven himself to have weak resolve. He could not even stand on principle by maintaining his opposition to Obama’s corporate gift known as Health Care Reform. We can also look back at his track record at constantly surrendering to the Democratic Party Establishment; when Howard Dean was torpedoed out of the 2004 nomination, Kucinich stuck behind THEN pro-war/occupation John Kerry. In 2008, he stood behind now war president Obama. He does not represent a true alternative to the socially reactionary/belligerent policies of the two party plutocracy.

  • Anonymous

    “I would rather fight the fight with a Dem in the White House”

    I guess you missed noticing that the only people the “Dem in the White House” has been fighting since getting elected are the progressive that elected him?

    You must have missed how the idiots carrying Hitler and Joker signs were called no names but the progressives who carried Obama signs have been called:

    1. “fucking retarded” by Rahm Emanuel for wanting to take on corporate whore Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE)
    2. “Need to be drug tested”, “Wouldn’t be happy with single payer and President Kucinich” by Robert Gibbs.
    3. “Not serious whiners” by Obushma and Biden

    The “Dem” in the White House is fighting alright… fighting the Democrat caucuses to pass tax cuts for the rich, extend the Patriot Act and soon will be fighting Democrats to freeze and starve poor people because that’s what the GOP wants.

    How many pieces of legislation does it take before you notice that the House GOP is passing Obushma’s agenda and the House Democrats are voting against the Trickle-downer in Chief?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3CO7EDEIVXRO47OAWUBUUBJXA Textynn Textynn

    For Obama to go after SS, Energy assistance , and food stamps in the same year that he gave the uber rich “more” tax cuts that clearly does nothing but encourage the Depression shows an outward act of defiance toward his “base”. Like the man who has decided to get caught cheating because the pretense of caring for his marriage is too much of a burden that he no longer cares to deal with. He decides to allow his indifference to show in a overt way that cannot be misinterpreted moving his agenda of a complete break and his true intentions out in plain view.

    It’s official. Obama has chosen Wall Street over his base, and his behavior is a display of open loyalty of a new significant other and the disposal of the other. Unfortunately, this gigolo thinks he will continue to be able to force support from the old cast off.

    We need a progressive candidate if for no other reason to put out the message that WE DO HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO and I for one, am going if I have to vote for the Green Party. Voting for Obama will be like voting to be a low paid maid for your ex husband and his new wife.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3CO7EDEIVXRO47OAWUBUUBJXA Textynn Textynn

    Kucinich is the best politician in the entire batch. If we don’t have a liberal primary we will have Obama, a Republican, and a openly Republican candidate. I think they Repubs will run a dog because a Republican president calling himself a Dem is more powerful than an actual Repub in office. They can do really unpopular things and blame it on the Dem. Most Dem leaders don’t care because they are paid to be passive.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3CO7EDEIVXRO47OAWUBUUBJXA Textynn Textynn

    Why is he ridiculous? Because he doesn’t cop to the enforced status quo that is impoverishing the nation? Please. This attitude that the right are anything but a destructive group of slave controllers is pretty thin.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3CO7EDEIVXRO47OAWUBUUBJXA Textynn Textynn

    There is so little “left” that a new course of action is the only logical course.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a big mean, scary world out there, and I could not sleep at night if a guy like K was supposed to be covering my back. Slave controllers? Who are slaves in this country? Name one.

  • Anonymous

    No, Obama has lost much of his credibility. If Kucinich proves to be electable he’s a much better choice (and not likely to back down).

  • Anonymous

    We might be better served if Obama did the honest thing and ran as a Republican in 2012.