Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns

By Nathan Diebenow
Monday, January 10, 2011 8:53 EDT
 

The Obama administration’s $78 billion cut to US defense spending is a mere “pin-prick” to a behemoth military-industrial complex that must drastically shrink for the good of the republic, a former Reagan administration budget director recently told Raw Story.

“It amounts to a failed opportunity to recognize that we are now at a historical inflection point at which the time has arrived for a classic post-war demobilization of the entire military establishment,” David Stockman said in an exclusive interview.

“The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done. There are no real seriously armed enemies left in the world that can possibly justify an $800 billion national defense and security establishment, including Homeland Security.”

Short of that, he suggested, the United States has “reached the point of no return” with its artificial creation of wealth, and will eventually face a sharp economic decline.

Stockman last fall criticized the extension of the Bush tax cuts while the federal government continued to borrow money abroad to pay for its public welfare and warfare programs. His solution to deficit spending — a huge across-the-board tax increase — is contrary to the current anti-tax ideology shared among tea party activists as well as fiscal conservatives in the Republican Party.

Stockman, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan in 1981 to run the Office of Management and Budget, offered two models for the US military’s compulsory demobilization: the one after World War I in 1920 and the one after World War II in 1946.

Calling today’s military spending running at 5.4 percent of GDP “simply an absurd level that begs for radical contraction and surgery,” he said that a “reasonable target” to shrink the defense establishment would be 3 percent of GDP by 2015.

What budget cuts?

Republicans, who were elected to a majority in the House of Representatives on promises to cut government spending, promised to cut $100 billion from the budget in their first year. Relatively few have proposed significant decreases in defense spending, and GOP leadership has outright dismissed the possibility.

Some prominent members of the House GOP caucus have even suggested the sum of their austerity measures could fall to only $30 billion, if that.

Republicans in Congress have instead championed their success in extending President George W. Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. The Congressional Research Service reported (PDF) that extending debased tax rates to the wealthy will add an additional $5.08 trillion to the US deficit over the next 10 years.

The Bush-era tax rates that Republicans had set to expire were continued for another two years in a legislative compromise that cleared the way for a series of Democratic legislative victories in Congress. President Obama vowed to press the issue again in 2012.

Among their first actions as the House majority, Republicans also pushed for a repeal of President Obama’s health care reform laws, even as the Senate’s Democratic majority vowed to block the measure. Repeal of the laws would cost an additional $230 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office (PDF), and would likely drive the number of uninsured Americans to over 54 million by 2019.

But with the US national debt ballooning past $14 trillion in recent days, even a debasement of the military-industrial complex might be too little, too late.

Some analysts have warned the next debt crisis could be municipal bonds, where a $2 trillion market bubble currently exists. One, who correctly predicted the Citigroup credit crunch, even suggested that over 100 US cities may default in the process.

But very few, if anyone, in Congress, the National Security Council, the State or Defense Departments have even dared to publicly raise the prospect of reducing the military establishment and its spending to offset the national debt, Stockman said.

“Unless you have a profound change in foreign policy, you’re not going to have the possibility of a radical change in defense spending. The later follows from the former,” he said.

“This is a profound disappointment that there’s not even a debate — a serious debate about dramatic change in our imperialist foreign policy and war-making establishment in this administration — allegedly the most left-wing administration that we’ve had in modern time.”

“I don’t have much hope that what needs to be done will be done until it’s finally forced on us by a world bond market crisis, which will happen sooner or later,” Stockman added.

The ‘Ponzi scheme’ of ‘artificial prosperity’

Stockman, who described himself as a libertarian during a recent interview with Reason.tv, told Raw Story that the economy got into this mess because of the public and private sectors’ addiction to “guns and butter Keynesianism,” an economic policy that amounts to a Ponzi scheme that has ballooned since 1990.

“If we see what’s going on carefully, we’ve reached the final unmasking of the Keynesian illusion, that Keynesianism is really nothing but borrowing, stealing from the future to induce consumption today,” he said. “There are no multipliers. Every one of these programs we’ve had from ‘cash for clunkers’ to housing purchase credits have disappeared as soon as they expired and simple shifted activities in time by a few months.”

Stockman explained that before 1980, it took about $1.50 of new borrowing — public or private — to generate $1 of GDP growth. By the mid-1990s, it was $2.50 or $3 of borrowing for a $1 of GDP growth. By 2007, before the big collapse and meltdown finally came, $7 of public and private debt was added to the national balance sheet in order to get $1 of GDP growth.

“When you get to the point of $7 of borrowing to get $1 of income, you’re obviously on an unsustainable path and pretty close to hitting the wall, which more or less we have,” he said.

“So the addicts in Washington are now unfortunately terrified to stop all this borrowing whether it’s for guns or butter for fear of the economy will collapse…. That’s why we’re just at the beginning of solving this massive financial collapse we had in 2008 and not in the process of healthy recovery as some of the pals in the White House or on Capitol Hill or on Wall Street would have you believe.”

America’s “massive debt-created, artificial prosperity” is unprecedented in history, he continued. The dependence on consumption supported by public and private borrowing, not income, is a new stage for Western Europe as well.

A global public debt crisis was inevitable and likely unstoppable, given the political conditions, Stockman added.

“We’ve reached a point of no return. The size of the government. The massive size of the deficits and the national debt that has been created. The precedents that have been established for bailouts and intervention in every sector of the economy. The K Street lobbying system which totally dominates the Congress. All of these are very unhealthy developments.

“And I’m not sure how they are going to be reversed or eliminated,” he concluded. “It may be a permanent way of life. Then, if it is, it’ll be both a corruption of democracy and a serious weakening of the private capitalistic economy.”

With additional reporting and editing by Stephen C. Webster.

Like Raw Story on Facebook
Nathan Diebenow
Nathan Diebenow
 
 
 
 
By commenting, you agree to our terms of service
and to abide by our commenting policy.
 
  • Anonymous

    What is this a rerun?

    Didn’t we already have this story just a couple of weeks ago?

    Seriously, what is this? Slow news day or what?

  • http://topsy.com/www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/america-has-reached-the-point-of-no-return-reagan-budget-director-warns/?utm_source=pingback&utm_campaign=L2 Tweets that mention Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | Raw Story — Topsy.com

    [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by The Raw Story, Wade A. Inganamort, United States Agenda and others. United States Agenda said: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns: The Obama administration's $78 billi… http://bit.ly/gvzxom [...]

  • Anonymous

    “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures”

    yes, they are complete failures, but are they over, hell no and I laugh long and loud at anyone who believes that they are.

    we are never leaving.

    we are heading for a cliff and instead of hitting the brakes, we are flooring the gas.

    as long as the the nation (aka the WH) allows the asshole spend-money-like-there-is-no-tomorrow right wing dictate the message, we are fucked. But then again, the way we are pissing away money, there will be no tomorrow.

    we are fucked. thanks ronnie ray-gun and your trickle down, supply side, raise all boats, voodoo “economics”. This is on your fucking forhead and I hope you are getting endless economics lessons in hell.

  • ghostof911

    But very few, if anyone, in Congress, the National Security Council, the State or Defense Departments have even dared to publicly raise the prospect of reducing the military establishment and its spending to offset the national debt, Stockman said.

    He’s right. The generals and the lobbyists for the defense industry are holding everyone hostage. It’s called cannibal capitalism.

  • Anonymous

    We are still preparing for yesterday’s wars. Tomorrow’s wars are likely to be fought on economic battlefields and be won by manipulation of derivatives. Those wars are ones we seem ill prepared for and ones which can be declared in one moment and over the next, with the declaration of new foreign ownership of the infrastructure and political machinery. We are stuck in a backwards perspective precisely because the military industrial complex handicaps any effort to think outside of their box. I guess we shall see if we can get out, but I suspect that they have some heavy weights sitting on the lid, and aren’t incline to relinquish their source of influence of money, even if it destroys the republic.

  • Anonymous

    Paul Craig Roberts, known as ‘the Father of Reaganomics” and Asst. Sec. of Treasury under Reagan echoes these exact same sentiments. True old school conservatives see the US empire as one of the greatest threats to the continuation of the American dream and the sustainability of the United States.

  • Anonymous

    The NEOCONs, will not let go, of their dreams of empire. And the deliberate fiscal destruction, is part of an orchestrated effort. Expect a cymbal clash soon, one of Cheney’s, Minot Barksdale nukes, going off in CONUS. And then, a cult driven election, of a Palin like shill and offensive nuclear war. The NEOCONs are bringing Armageddon.

  • Anonymous

    Well, much as I enjoy a lecture on economics from a player in the Reagan administration, who tripled the US debt and set the country up for its 1st-in-history 30 year median wage decline (there had never, prior to the Gipper, been a 30 year period when wages didn’t RISE significantly), I have to comment that we will all be economic slaves as long as private bankers control our money. Only democratic control of the money system will get us off this boom/bust cycle we’ve been on since the nation’s founding. Um, either party suggesting this…hello?

  • Anonymous

    Well, much as I enjoy a lecture on economics from a player in the Reagan administration, who tripled the US debt and set the country up for its 1st-in-history 30 year median wage decline (there had never, prior to the Gipper, been a 30 year period when wages didn’t RISE significantly), I have to comment that we will all be economic slaves as long as private bankers control our money. Only democratic control of the money system will get us off this boom/bust cycle we’ve been on since the nation’s founding. Um, either party suggesting this…hello?

  • Anonymous

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done. There are no real seriously armed enemies left in the world that can possibly justify an $800 billion national defense and security establishment, including Homeland Security.”

    Great quote, this guy speaks the truth here

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5I4JWTDTVGKLRT5HBETRKQOQWY mikefromArlington

    Sorry but Reagan put this budget deficit crap on steroids.

    Nobody from the Bush or Reagan admins has a leg to stand on when it comes to budgets.

  • Anonymous

    Along with the banks, various traitors in Congress are invested in the wars so why should they vote to stop them?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/FPBFO6RC5R2HHIP3VXSFU2RZQA mjj

    From whom is the US borrowing money? That is what I would like to know. The US unlike most other countries prints its own money. It DOES NOT borrow from China or Russia or anyone else.

  • Anonymous

    As I recall, Reagan took Stockman to the woodshed for telling the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Stockman for president!

  • Tom

    Read “War is a Racket” By Smedly Butler, one of the most decorated Marines who ever lived. http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

    Our “Defense” department has nothing to do with defending this country anymore, it is just a crime racket to make money. Look at a map of the planet. If defending the country was really the purpose of our military we could have one of the smaller militaries on the planet. We have two huge oceans on two sides of us. There are not enough ships on the planet to supply an army with enough troops and supplies to attack and occupy this country, and Mexico and Canada are not real treats to our national security either.

    So Ironically the military that is supposed to exist to defend this country, will probably be the thing that ends up destroying it. Man I love irony…

  • Anonymous

    “”When you get to the point of $7 of borrowing to get $1 of income”…..

    He’s full of shit. Most of the presence of the middle class rose out of returning soldiers from WWII using GI loans for houses, schools, etc. He never mentioned anything about the start of his asshole boss’s, the “RayGun tax cuts”, which have put us into his delusional “borrow $7 and get $1.”

    The idea of getting out of these wars, right now, which I have agreed to, I have to admit would bring unemployment up to 30%. All the soldiers coming home, contractors, truck drivers, etc.

    Bush has really screwed us.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t doubt anything Stockman says. However, I find it ironic that this is the guy who invented “trickle down economics” and sold the idea to Reagan, only to reverse his position a couple of years later. I’m glad to see he’s become more realistic but arguably, one of the largest banes to democracy, K Street, was an indirect byproduct of his influence.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t doubt anything Stockman says. However, I find it ironic that this is the guy who invented “trickle down economics” and sold the idea to Reagan, only to reverse his position a couple of years later. I’m glad to see he’s become more realistic but arguably, one of the largest banes to democracy, K Street, was an indirect byproduct of his influence.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    How un-American! Stockman seeks to undermine America’s chief export: death, destruction and dominance. Commie!

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    How un-American! Stockman seeks to undermine America’s chief export: death, destruction and dominance. Commie!

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    another disciple of raygun repudiating the damage he caused, but its too late, as rayguns dismantling of the regulations of the multi nationals, and helping to destroy the unions, is solely responsible for dismantling of the middle class. same story of rayguns political guru lee atwater, who on his death bed asked for forgiveness for the way he had created the style of GOP politics we have now, as rove, and ailes are proteges of atwater…. its too late now stockman, you killed the USA, with raygun, deaver, meese, baker, and rove………. 30 years of de-regs has allowed the multi nationals to make obscene profits, and pay no taxes in the USA.

  • Fedupin10

    While true, I take exception to his Keynesian bashing. The cause is / was Trickle down economics. Instead of taxing at a level commensurate with our spending, they borrowed and hoped the rich would spend their extra income. But, as we all know, when you have extra money you save it not spend it. Keyne’s philosophy is all about what Gov’t spending does when the private sector is not pulling it’s weight.

    If you are to be taken seriously Mr. Stockman, please pin the blame on the correct source.

  • Anonymous

    Time for another tax cut for the wealthy, doesn’t that solve all economic woes??

    And when the neocon madmen finish their grand effort of spreading freedom around the world there will no longer be any problems for America.
    Yeah, Reagan’s policies put together with the Dumbya/Cheney regime have proven to work out really well for America…..right?

    Maybe Obama could appoint a few more Wall Street thieves, just another blunder for shits and giggles, why not?

  • http://thepoliticalbandit.com/ William Cormier

    For all practical purposes, the Fascists have won and are in firm control of the country. Lobbyists have become blatant in their continual bribery of Congress and the general public doesn’t seem to care…

    It will take a coordinated General Strike or social disobedience larger than the sixties to reverse the trend and start to bring some sanity to this nation.

  • Anonymous

    Yep, well, even some Republicants have a conscience and can speak the truth. Our form of RAW capitalism is a Ponzi scheme built on pure lies and duplicity and even a slight historical analysis shows the truth in Stockman’s statement. (He’s been saying this for months.)

    The bond market outlaws that degrade foreign govt bonds (Spain, Iceland, Ireland, et al) for yield, causing social chaos, have not yet slammed America’s finances because our house is the last one with a once-solid reputation, which is now dead.

    If Moody’s and Standard & Poors (duplicitous rating agencies) ever honestly rate our finances as they’ve done around the world, you’ll finally (tragically) see people hitting the streets out of desperation from deeper cuts to the middle and lower classes.

    Agonizingly, IMO there also will be more violence.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3UIM2UMBQXQTPK5JTMOF4DZTVE Art Costa

    You’ve just described a heroin addicts predicament.

    There world was entirely different place right after WWII. Keynes may have had his place, but even he would question the unmitigated use of his prescription for what has been happening.

  • Anonymous

    It’s going to be about controlling the flow of oil. As soon as the only significant amounts of oil left are in the middle east it will become clear. Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Kuwait have around 40-50% of the easily recoverable oil. We will then use our 11 aircraft carrier battle groups to ensure that it flows to the US. Easy Peasy. That is of course if the US doesn’t go bankrupt first.

  • Anonymous

    The neocons are some of the biggest scumbags to ever crawl on the planet. They do not give a shit about anything but their insane imperial hubris, that hubris will bring America nothing but suffering and perhaps destroy what is left of a once great country.

    The neocons should all be arrested, fucking dicksticks. Send them to Gitmo.

  • Anonymous

    Your point is well taken but not exactly correct. The Fed prints it’s own money, not the US government. However the US gets into debt in other ways. One big way is by selling US Securites to foreign countries. For example Bush, in order to finance his tirade in Iraq and tax breaks to the wealthy sold the Communist Chinese government 1.5 TRILLION dollars worth of US securities, in exchange for 1.5 trillion dollars to prop up the US budget. That’s money we have to pay back–with interest. Second the US government borrows money from the Fed. The way they do this is with US government manufactured pieces of paper called Bonds. They sell the paper bonds to the Fed and the Fed manufactures pieces of paper called dollars to pay for the bonds which goes into the US coffers. This results in money owed back to the Fed with interest. Then there is simple fact of overspending the dollars you have because unlike many states, there is no law that requires the US government to balance it’s budget on a yearly basis. This is an insane situation.

    In the past when the US Treasury printed our money, the dollars value was based on the value of gold (and silver) held by the US government. You could turn in a dollar bill and get an equal amount of silver or gold. The amount of dollars that were printed were limited by the amount of inflation the country was willing to put up with. The Federal Reserve note on the other hand is backed by—nothing! If you tried to turn one in for silver or gold the only thing you’d get back is another Federal Reserve note. Since it’s not backed by anything, the Fed can print as many as they want. This will continue until foreign governments start dumping the US dollar as their primary reserve currency. The way I see it, when this happens the US will have two choices. 1)Start MAKING stuff that can be sold to other countries so we can obtain whatever the favored currency is or 2)like the former Soviet Union, create a separate economic system that won’t interact with the modern capitalist markets and hope a few countries are willing to play along.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PERXL7QX24UGNVTL7WFUCMBNII Aqua Regia

    The US passed the point of no return a couple of decades ago. Not in terms of it being impossible to deal with the threats to the economy, the politics, and the culture. But the existing mindset makes it impossible to do what needs to be done. Massive reduction of military outlays. Rebuilding of decaying infrastructure. Fair tax reform. Jobs programs. Realistic debt reduction. These things will not happen. Instead we will have massive finger pointing at the Reagan’s fictitious welfare queens, social security recipients, government workers, unionized labor, non-citizen workers and others who have little or no culpability for our current situation.

  • http://mikechamberslive.com/?p=10988 America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns

    [...] Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | Raw Stor…. Share and [...]

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTOUXVLC2DJPT34AVJJZTFFT2I Rick

    I don’t support today’s Republican movement, and clearly Mr. Stockman doesn’t either. I appreciate it when a genuine honest conservative comes forward with realistic and frank assessments of our fiscal circumstances. We should all heed Mr. Stockman’s warnings.

  • Anonymous

    By old school you must mean, goldwater/eisenhower conservative? Reaganomics was a big turn away from much of that and the start of the disaster we’re in now. Stockman has come around to scaling back the MIC, but I think he still holds to many parts of Reaganomics. I don’t know much about Paul Craig Roberts, maybe he’s in the same position. Libertarians – some things right, much very wrong (imo).

  • Anonymous

    By old school you must mean, goldwater/eisenhower conservative? Reaganomics was a big turn away from much of that and the start of the disaster we’re in now. Stockman has come around to scaling back the MIC, but I think he still holds to many parts of Reaganomics. I don’t know much about Paul Craig Roberts, maybe he’s in the same position. Libertarians – some things right, much very wrong (imo).

  • Anonymous

    By old school you must mean, goldwater/eisenhower conservative? Reaganomics was a big turn away from much of that and the start of the disaster we’re in now. Stockman has come around to scaling back the MIC, but I think he still holds to many parts of Reaganomics. I don’t know much about Paul Craig Roberts, maybe he’s in the same position. Libertarians – some things right, much very wrong (imo).

  • Anonymous

    Good point, he’s all about scaling back the MIC, good – but I believe he still a chicago school true believer – and has yet to understand that.

  • Anonymous

    Good point, he’s all about scaling back the MIC, good – but I believe he still a chicago school true believer – and has yet to understand that.

  • Anonymous

    Good point, he’s all about scaling back the MIC, good – but I believe he still a chicago school true believer – and has yet to understand that.

  • Anonymous

    I cannot believe it; common sense thinking, and from a Republican!

    David should be their leader.

    Obama please focus on this opportunity to change as David has suggested; you may be able to save the USA yet!

  • Anonymous

    I cannot believe it; common sense thinking, and from a Republican!

    David should be their leader.

    Obama please focus on this opportunity to change as David has suggested; you may be able to save the USA yet!

  • Anonymous

    I cannot believe it; common sense thinking, and from a Republican!

    David should be their leader.

    Obama please focus on this opportunity to change as David has suggested; you may be able to save the USA yet!

  • llkernj

    so in other words, we are doomed? the mil ind complex will never give up the guns and bombs, the lobbyists will not go home, the lawmakers who have been bought still have their mortgages to pay.
    I think we are past any point of no return.

  • llkernj

    so in other words, we are doomed? the mil ind complex will never give up the guns and bombs, the lobbyists will not go home, the lawmakers who have been bought still have their mortgages to pay.
    I think we are past any point of no return.

  • llkernj

    so in other words, we are doomed? the mil ind complex will never give up the guns and bombs, the lobbyists will not go home, the lawmakers who have been bought still have their mortgages to pay.
    I think we are past any point of no return.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M3TIAAMU6BBLN3N3K4LHBAYNEU Michael Gaston

    I’m glad the subject of oil is part of this conversation. It is an additional factor which only adds to the urgency of our economic crisis. Remember what Mr. Stockman’s statement explicitly states; “Unless you have a profound change in foreign policy, you’re not going to have the possibility of a radical change in defense spending.”
    The point is this: if we do not substantially reduce our military spending, we will be unable to support a de facto oil supply protection policy. If we do not change our foreign and domestic policy, there will be no money left to protect the oil. This would be an additional burden upon an already destroyed economy. Inflation would skyrocket. Keeping the nation supplied with oil requires a radical change in spending and foreign policy. God help us.

  • Anonymous

    With the billions of dollars used for the war machine , plus the transfer of our wealth from the federal reserve has destroyed the middle class , seniors and poor.
    This economical destruction has been caused by these corporations which have moved overseas with their manufacturing plants , jobs and Wealth.
    Their manufacturing plants , jobs and investments are overseas and they are draining the last drop of bl00d from American veins.
    They are the employers of these elected officials and control the military to serve their war contractors and purpose.
    The class war is just about over and we have lost our a…

  • Anonymous

    Keynesians today, I believe (like Krugman) call for a much bigger stimulus. It’s not the stimulus per se, it’s the giveaways to corporate america and the refusal to raise taxes on the wealthy that is killing us. This is a very important distinction, imo, and one you will never hear on the MSM or from libertarian circles.

    As far as the MIC goes, if we cut the MIC in half, closed bases, sold off real estate and other items, we could easily save so much money to put all those forces to school, or peace corp, or job training, or medical care, + do a whole lot for the economy in general. If we can create jobs with the MIC, imagine how much more productivity we could get from just dropping the money directly on useful things. Probably 10X.

  • Anonymous

    One of the greatest weapons of the people: General Strike

  • http://twitter.com/mujaku mujaku

    I like Stockman but he hasn’t read Keynes. Key to understanding Keynes is *investment* both public (gov.) and private. The level of investment in an economy determines employment. The idea of throwing money down a rat hole by way of national defense is not Keynesian. Being against free-trade, and investing in American industry and agriculture is Keynesian. We haven’t followed Keynes since after World War II.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DEH6AW6H5ILXPWTSEWXOJCULOI Anne

    What do you call us paying dollars for all of the stuff that is now made in China? It’s everything: shoes, computers, clothing, household goods. You can’t find anything that isn’t made in China.

  • http://twitter.com/btmfdrsheaven rebecca meritt

    the repuggs drink from the holy grail,they’re all anointed to bring healing to the rich,salvation to CEOs and call the plague to take care of the poor.

  • Lefty Leftist

    He just described the US as the Roman Empire. I’m beginning to smell smoke.

  • Anonymous

    it almost sounds like he’s not directly to blame for the problems he brings up…

  • Anonymous

    “The level of investment in an economy determines employment.”

    IF this is true, then why oh why is Detroit bankrupt? The automakers spent billions and billions on their factories.

    Unfortunately for you (and Detroit) your simplisitic analysis is WRONG. It ALL depends on how intelligently the money is invested, not merely the fact that it is invested, as your hopelessly primitive concepts are too crude to pick up on this idea.

  • Anonymous

    “Keeping the nation supplied with oil ”

    You really did miss the bus, didn’t you?

    If we figure out how to use substantially less oil, the ENTIRE PROBLEM goes away. No more politics for oil, no more wars for oil.

  • Anonymous

    He’s not running for office, he can afford to demonstrate intelligence.

  • Anonymous

    “couple of years later.”

    Dude it has been over 30 years!!! What rock have you been under?

  • PoorCitizen

    I really doubt your summary of the situation makes any sense for a number of reasons. While it is true that the major oil reserves will remain in the region, 11 aircraft carrier battle groups will be of little utility in keeping the sealanes open, should open hostilities break out between the US and Iran. To see this you only have to realize several things that are relatively easy to grasp, if you take any time at all to think about them:

    1) The Strait of Hormuz is extremely narrow (32 miles) and relatively shallow forcing supertankers and virtually all vessels of any size into tightly limited sea lanes. Such vessels are constrained in such tight sea lanes for a distance of about 150 miles at a minimum. This practically makes them sitting ducks for any kind of serious attack.

    2) Iranians now possess relatively small portable surface to ship and small ship (think fast motor boat) to ship, virtually handheld, missiles that can either take out and sink a ship or seriously cripple it with a single hit, as a well as a small armada of motor craft that are fitted to carry them (ignoring whatever land to sea missile defenses the Iranians have hidden along the coast (remember the problems we had in finding scuds in the desert during Gulf War I?).

    Consequently, aircraft carriers, which themselves are so large and have displacements too big that they can not safely enter into or maneuver in the strait must operate several hundreds of miles away. This means that, especially at night, no large ship would be safe in the Strait of Hormuz and a single sinking of even one or two large vessels in the narrow channel, might well close the entire sea lane in the areal terminated or not honored, so that no tanker owner would risk making the trip during open hostilities. Could you imagine just how long it would take to lift a sunken oil-filled, supertanker out of the water in the middle of a war zone?

    Consequently, you can just about be guaranteed that shipping in the Strait of Hormuz would come to a halt, no matter what the US does with its carrier fleet. Over the long term this is a problem as the US relies on the Japanese to pay for fuel for its fleet operations in the Western Indian Ocean and the Japanese get their oil from the same potentially blocked lanes. Hence, it would require the strategic petroleum reserve to be tapped, just about assuring that oil prices would go through the roof and probably put a halt to the US economy. Can you imagine how many businesses would close if FedEx, UPS, and the USPS, and freight shipping companies couldn’t get any fuel for their vehicles? Could you pay for the goods delivered, if the surtax for their delivery included a $25-$50/gallon price? For this reason alone, we might want to start thinking about quickly moving to an all electric fleet of cars and trucks.

    Perhaps the time has come to back off the fantasy senarios so popular in video games and start thinking a little more seriously about the reality of the situation. No?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3J34VOUONTK3EKEGVNIAYIEFTE shq13

    USA is done.What you have is a Vampire ready to take on its own people.

  • Anonymous

    What is the guy smoking? Read Warren Moslers “7 Deadly Innocent Frauds.”

    http://moslereconomics.com/2009/12/10/7-deadly-innocent-frauds/

  • Anonymous

    You make a good point and I guess it is a matter of relativity. Reaganomics was indeed the beginning of the decline we are now seeing, but in relative terms looking at the present, Reagan was to the left of Bush/Obama policies. Paul Craig Roberts is now more interested in the US pulling back from the ambitions of empire, not destroying the currency, and regaining jobs in America. I think he has given up on the finer points of Reaganomics and now sees this as a matter of triage.

  • Anonymous

    Wake up man

    These are our best and brightest that we send overseas.

    They are active people and active workers and active consumers.

    If we bring them back the economy will perk right up due to their increased economic activity.

    For another the economy will pick up nicely if the war taxes go down even in the slightest bit.

  • Jeremiah’s Johnson

    An American History Lesson

    When Reagan took office, it’s like he had just been given a fancy sports car and was now in the driver’s seat. He often drove around drunk, ruining the environment by tearing up his neighbors’ lawns, running into trees, and taking out mailboxes. Then he took it on a trip to Libya, Iran, and Nicaragua to show off his new muscle car and to see what it could do.

    Reagan handed the keys over to Bush Sr. and he went for a spin down to Panama, then over to Kuwait and Iraq. When Clinton got behind the wheel, he really liked to drink and drive all over the world to places like Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Yugoslavia, and our presidents’ favorite vacation spot: Iraq. Then he got busted for picking up a prostitute and the Republicans revoked his driver’s license.

    Little Bush saw how much fun Clinton was having driving around going to parties, drinking heavily, and picking up chicks. He thought, as long as he doesn’t get busted with a hooker, he could abuse the car just like his father and Clinton did and nobody would mind.

    One morning, after sleeping off a bender at a friend’s house, he learned that someone had trashed his beautiful sports car and vowed to make whomever was responsible pay for what they did. What really happened is Bush had crashed the car the night before and then blacked out, so couldn’t remember anything. But his close friend, Dick Cheney, told him Osama Bin Laden was responsible for trashing his car. Well, Bush was already boozed up again and he drove the car straight over to Osama’s house to take revenge. Osama wasn’t home, but Bush found a party invitation from Saddam Hussein taped to the refrigerator.

    Bush was getting dangerously drunk at this point and ignored his father’s pleas to not go over to Saddam’s place. He got behind the wheel anyway and sped over to Saddam’s as fast as the car would go. Since he was so intoxicated, he crashed right into Saddam’s house, destroying the car beyond repair, and immediately passed out. When he came to and realized what he’d done, he noticed a black kid standing nearby and convinced him to get behind the wheel to make it look like the kid was responsible for the accident.

    Just then, the police and media showed up and saw the young kid standing over the wreck. Not knowing any better, they just assumed the kid was responsible. Meanwhile, Bush had already fled the scene and was resting quietly at his new home in Texas.

  • Jeremiah’s Johnson

    An American History Lesson

    When Reagan took office, it’s like he had just been given a fancy sports car and was now in the driver’s seat. He often drove around drunk, ruining the environment by tearing up his neighbors’ lawns, running into trees, and taking out mailboxes. Then he took it on a trip to Libya, Iran, and Nicaragua to show off his new muscle car and to see what it could do.

    Reagan handed the keys over to Bush Sr. and he went for a spin down to Panama, then over to Kuwait and Iraq. When Clinton got behind the wheel, he really liked to drink and drive all over the world to places like Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Yugoslavia, and our presidents’ favorite vacation spot: Iraq. Then he got busted for picking up a prostitute and the Republicans revoked his driver’s license.

    Little Bush saw how much fun Clinton was having driving around going to parties, drinking heavily, and picking up chicks. He thought, as long as he doesn’t get busted with a hooker, he could abuse the car just like his father and Clinton did and nobody would mind.

    One morning, after sleeping off a bender at a friend’s house, he learned that someone had trashed his beautiful sports car and vowed to make whomever was responsible pay for what they did. What really happened is Bush had crashed the car the night before and then blacked out, so couldn’t remember anything. But his close friend, Dick Cheney, told him Osama Bin Laden was responsible for trashing his car. Well, Bush was already boozed up again and he drove the car straight over to Osama’s house to take revenge. Osama wasn’t home, but Bush found a party invitation from Saddam Hussein taped to the refrigerator.

    Bush was getting dangerously drunk at this point and ignored his father’s pleas to not go over to Saddam’s place. He got behind the wheel anyway and sped over to Saddam’s as fast as the car would go. Since he was so intoxicated, he crashed right into Saddam’s house, destroying the car beyond repair, and immediately passed out. When he came to and realized what he’d done, he noticed a black kid standing nearby and convinced him to get behind the wheel to make it look like the kid was responsible for the accident.

    Just then, the police and media showed up and saw the young kid standing over the wreck. Not knowing any better, they just assumed the kid was responsible. Meanwhile, Bush had already fled the scene and was resting quietly at his new home in Texas.

  • Anonymous

    “any more”

    It has ALWAYS BEEN JUST LIKE THIS!!!

    War has ALWAYS been about profits and screwiing the soldiers. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS!!!

    What did you just climb out from under a rock or something? War has ALWAYS been this way and to pretend otherwise is just STUPID. We are human beings and we fight with each other. We rob and steal for our own selfish motives. What else do you expect? Are we plastic dolls? Are we aliens from outer space? You are naive to expect humans to behave in any other manner.

  • Anonymous

    “any more”

    It has ALWAYS BEEN JUST LIKE THIS!!!

    War has ALWAYS been about profits and screwiing the soldiers. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS!!!

    What did you just climb out from under a rock or something? War has ALWAYS been this way and to pretend otherwise is just STUPID. We are human beings and we fight with each other. We rob and steal for our own selfish motives. What else do you expect? Are we plastic dolls? Are we aliens from outer space? You are naive to expect humans to behave in any other manner.

  • Anonymous

    OMB didn’t come up with spending plans Ronnie did.

  • Anonymous

    OMB didn’t come up with spending plans Ronnie did.

  • PoorCitizen

    I’m doubtful that a general strike will be possible, since few would risk what little economic security they have left for the outside chance it might work. Republicans would be more than happy to provide felony convictions to democrats who do, thereby reducing their voting strength.

    A more likely senario is that the republicans responding to the desires of corporate moneymen to keep them in the gravy at the expense of everyone else, will continue to sell out our country to the Chinese. That is the way the deal they have made with Ruppert Murdoch is structured anyway. The Chinese then they will increasingly dictate the terms and form of our government and culture in the future. They have bought enough of our debt to already pressure republicans into doing whatever they want anyway, so their strategy is working and surely from their perspective there is no reason to change it.

    Once our society is as much of a police state as China is, and we are getting there fast, this might actually be a good thing, as the Chinese seem to be much better at managing an economy and no more about public planning than the republicans do anyway.

  • PoorCitizen

    I’m doubtful that a general strike will be possible, since few would risk what little economic security they have left for the outside chance it might work. Republicans would be more than happy to provide felony convictions to democrats who do, thereby reducing their voting strength.

    A more likely senario is that the republicans responding to the desires of corporate moneymen to keep them in the gravy at the expense of everyone else, will continue to sell out our country to the Chinese. That is the way the deal they have made with Ruppert Murdoch is structured anyway. The Chinese then they will increasingly dictate the terms and form of our government and culture in the future. They have bought enough of our debt to already pressure republicans into doing whatever they want anyway, so their strategy is working and surely from their perspective there is no reason to change it.

    Once our society is as much of a police state as China is, and we are getting there fast, this might actually be a good thing, as the Chinese seem to be much better at managing an economy and no more about public planning than the republicans do anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Printing more money does not get you out of debt. In fact it just increases your debt because it devalues the dollars that you have to use to pay off the debt.

    We are indeed borrowing the money from China. Except they have decided to just hang onto all those dollars. Rich people in china are wallpapering their houses with dollars and using dollars for toilet paper because they can’t do anything else with them.

    If we keep telling the Chinese that they can’t spend their dollars over here, they will dump them on the open market and they will REALLY turn into toilet paper.

  • Anonymous

    Printing more money does not get you out of debt. In fact it just increases your debt because it devalues the dollars that you have to use to pay off the debt.

    We are indeed borrowing the money from China. Except they have decided to just hang onto all those dollars. Rich people in china are wallpapering their houses with dollars and using dollars for toilet paper because they can’t do anything else with them.

    If we keep telling the Chinese that they can’t spend their dollars over here, they will dump them on the open market and they will REALLY turn into toilet paper.

  • Anonymous

    If we stop using so much oil, the reason for all the fighting and arguing just goes away.

  • PoorCitizen

    Right! Nothing like making sure our armies and public programs will run for free since there won’t be any tax money to pay for them. Which foreign government are you lobbying for again?

    Its reassuring that at least with your proposal I can hire the mob to pay for my protection. No doubt their rates will be competitive.

  • PoorCitizen

    It may be the Stockman is just like so many of the rest of us. He actually believes in his own ideas. I will give Mr. Stockman credit, for at least, having the sense of finally coming around to thinking about the consequences of the policies he helped implement.

  • Anonymous

    This guy knows his Onions…

    So why is America still persisting in pursuing Delusion?

  • Anonymous

    The Snake eats it’s own Tail

  • PoorCitizen

    It does print its money. Its just that it has to borrow from the Chinese, Japanese, and the Saudis mostly to put any value into it after its printed. We need those big armies to provide the Saudis the protection they seek for selling oil to us.

  • Anonymous

    Who’s on Fiddle?

  • PoorCitizen

    If you don’t find someone worth voting for, you simply assure your own slavery.

  • http://www.socialistcafe.com SocialistCafeDOTcom

    This guy helped put us where we are and now, now that he’s personally out of power and has no control over any of it, now he decides to speak up. Pffft…

  • Anonymous

    No more racketeering.

  • Anonymous

    So the architect of our massive military expenditures thinks he was wrong? Oh wait…he never says he was wrong. My bad.

  • jimbowski

    Not to worry. Obama will balance the budget on the backs of the elderly and the poor so the military party abroad can continue.

  • PoorCitizen

    Repetition makes sure that even the slow understand the message. It is a fundamental component of learning.

  • Anonymous

    Not doomed, but there is a second American revolution on the horizon.

  • Anonymous

    Any economy needs a Marketplace…

    Who’s going to work for 50 cents per hour?

  • Anonymous

    And he was in the Reagan administration. A mainstream conservative from 1981 is called a “liberal democrat” today.

  • Anonymous

    Yep, that’s it…

    USA has been oblivious to the changing world having been content to live with Indulgence

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

    Dismissing what he says is stupid and shortsighted. When the nation is bankrupt will it matter who said what, when?

  • Anonymous

    “we’ve reached the final unmasking of the Keynesian illusion, that Keynesianism is really nothing but borrowing” and this right here is why we are in trouble and this isn’t Keynesian at all. What it says is that there are periods of down time when there is a demand problem and the private sector won’t create jobs and the only one big enough to is the gov’t. Hes ignoring the 2nd part which says when things start getting good again you are supposed to repay it.

  • Anonymous

    “we’ve reached the final unmasking of the Keynesian illusion, that Keynesianism is really nothing but borrowing” and this right here is why we are in trouble and this isn’t Keynesian at all. What it says is that there are periods of down time when there is a demand problem and the private sector won’t create jobs and the only one big enough to is the gov’t. Hes ignoring the 2nd part which says when things start getting good again you are supposed to repay it.

  • http://twitter.com/OMGWhatDidWeDo Trevinla

    I’m glad someone the right wing may listen to has finally stood up and said this!

    We are 10 years in Afghanistan, with all the military might one could imagine, fighting an enemy with a much smaller force with far less advanced weapon and we are making no progress!

    All this money going towards “defense” has done nothing but bankrupt the country. Diplomacy cost less money and fewer lives but in America talk has been viewed as weak – even after electing a great orator we have moved further to the “violence is strength” mentality.

    It is time to reassess what it means to be America and how far from that we now sit!

  • http://twitter.com/OMGWhatDidWeDo Trevinla

    I’m glad someone the right wing may listen to has finally stood up and said this!

    We are 10 years in Afghanistan, with all the military might one could imagine, fighting an enemy with a much smaller force with far less advanced weapon and we are making no progress!

    All this money going towards “defense” has done nothing but bankrupt the country. Diplomacy cost less money and fewer lives but in America talk has been viewed as weak – even after electing a great orator we have moved further to the “violence is strength” mentality.

    It is time to reassess what it means to be America and how far from that we now sit!

  • Anonymous

    FEAR

  • Anonymous

    FEAR

  • Anonymous

    But Peggy Noonan said it was OK cos we all got Microwave Ovens, VCR’s & MTV as a lovely parting gift from that SOB Reagan. (None of them made in the USA)

  • Anonymous

    But Peggy Noonan said it was OK cos we all got Microwave Ovens, VCR’s & MTV as a lovely parting gift from that SOB Reagan. (None of them made in the USA)

  • grindermonkey

    What’s this? A voice crying in the wilderness? My God it almost sounds like common sense. Now that there is no government on the backs of the American people what ever shall we do? Enemies from Mars, a war on drugs, a war on thinking, my god there’s nothing left a barren, featureless threat free non productive asteroid. Thank you conservatives for your abilities to read the mind of God and act on his burning bush directives. Thank you. I feel so less threatened now. What a bunch of agendaless jerks….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AOG64TBLOBYFHMS3PCFMZ6USQ4 United States

    (I depose under oath the following is true)

    Lockheed Missiles and Space Company, (now Lockheed Martin) developed the Communist Chinese’s missile launch system during the Bush H adm. LMSC secretly went to Hong Kong and set up the office to do this treasonous act. Bush had to give authorization. For those of you old enough to remember the 80s, Every few months the Communists would launch a missile/satellite and it would blow up seconds after launch. This was shown on our (American) TV networks. The Communists were the laughing stock of the world. Bush/LMSC went to HK. The Communists shuttled ALL systems, parts, data… to HK for the LMSC engineers to work on. Since HK was NOT a Communist country I guess this made Bush/LMSC CEO to believe it was okay????

    Clinton became President. The lower lever agents in the AG office were already investigating this act of TREASON. LMSC, no longer being protected by the Bush Family and Republicans, had charges filed against them buy the AG. (I’d guess one of the U.S. Attorney’s offices). LMSC plead GUILTY (no contest) and paid a fine. No trial so nothing came out into the Bush Family involvement.

    I SWEAR this is true. I read/followed this in the Wall Street Journal Newspaper at the time. It sparked my interest since I work for LMSC. What I find interesting is a google of these FACTS bring zero hits.

    Did everyone forget that the UNITED STATES of AMERICA/BUSH FAMILY made the COMMUNIST NUCLEAR LAUNCH SYSTEM?

    Where are the “reporters” in the USA? If you’d investigate I’d bet the same thing went on with their stealth fighter!

  • Anonymous

    Goddamn, it REALLY pisses me off when I’M smarter than those in power. I’ve been saying that the ENTIRE Reagan economic policy was bullshit and based on paper and nothing else ever since it started!

    I wrote letters to congress people (including one I am related to) back then asking what was the point of bankrupting ourselves by spending so much on guns and bombs instead of food and shelter, and I was basically told to sit down and shut the fuck up, because THEY were SO MUCH smarter than I was, and THEY knew what they were doing. Well, I think I’ve proved that *I* am smarter than the majority of those in congress, and I suspect that most us posting here ARE. But then, WE haven’t been offered the opportunity to SELL OUT our country and make ourselves really comfortable at the same time.

    Stockman should be listened to, but he won’t be. He actually KNOWS just what damage he helped cause, and he knows that it NEEDS to be undone. But of course, the righties, especially, get their funding from those who are making bombs and selling war. #5 of GDP by 2015? I would say 1% would STILL be too much. We already spend more on the military than the rest of the world COMBINED, what is the point of that OTHER than to keep the big MI SCUM incredibly rich? It’s certainly NOT doing ANY of the rest of us any good.

    And quite honestly, if THIS country is what such spending is “protecting”, then I say kill it off. THIS is NOT worth protecting. The sooner it falls, the better. What we had BEFORE Reagan WAS worth protecting, but we didn’t see that the real enemy that we had was right in this very country. Shame on us.

  • Anonymous

    The “rising tide lifts all boats” bullshit is only true if YOUR boat isn’t tied to the dock. If it is, you’re screwed. WE all got tied to the dock LONG before they turned on the tide.

  • Anonymous

    Good of him to begin to think about medical care one the patient has bled out…

  • http://ingaza.wordpress.com/ the dissenter

    Even the cuts Obama is promising won’t happen. He’s well known for his lies and empty rhetoci, this being one of many. The Empire is done is right, and in more ways than one.

    I got stranded last night with the snowtorm and will be stranded for several more days it appears, I’m beginning to taste what our reality will be like going forward. People turning against each other. Tempers flaring. Amerikans showing their black, hollowed souls and doing now to each other what they have been doing to the rest of the world for hundreds of years.

    May their god bless them!

  • http://ingaza.wordpress.com/ the dissenter

    They were and are so much smarter than you. They are in power and they have amassed fortunes never heard of before. What do you have to show for? The US is the only country in the world where stupidity and evilness pays handsomely.

  • http://ingaza.wordpress.com/ the dissenter

    Besides bankrupting the country, it’s made a few rich beyond their wildest dreams.

  • http://ingaza.wordpress.com/ the dissenter

    No, greed.

  • http://ingaza.wordpress.com/ the dissenter

    That’s how they all see it. It’s never their fault. Never taking accountability for one’s actions if the first tenent of Amerikan exceptionalism.

  • http://ingaza.wordpress.com/ the dissenter

    Protect the oil? Whose oil? And what exactly do you mean by ‘protect’?

  • Anonymous

    That’s easy to answer, and it’s ALWAYS the same answer: Follow the MONEY. EVERYTHING in right wing America is about the money. NOTHING else.

  • Anonymous

    That’s easy to answer, and it’s ALWAYS the same answer: Follow the MONEY. EVERYTHING in right wing America is about the money. NOTHING else.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6KCOVUYDUEIKOEOX4UJG2DBUA Rick Reed

    I have firewood and chickens, eat yer hearts out!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6KCOVUYDUEIKOEOX4UJG2DBUA Rick Reed

    I have firewood and chickens, eat yer hearts out!

  • Anonymous

    A majority of the nation loved Reagan & his folksy stories & quips. It was an 8 year party of new gadgets (made overseas). What were we thinking? Every day that goes by now…the piper we WILL pay SOONER than we we know grows & grows.

  • Anonymous

    He’s also ignoring that part where it was Reagan who polluted the economics of this country, and then Dick the prick Cheney said that Reagan taught us that deficits don’t matter. What Cheney learned is that he can make a ton of money when the country gets screwed. We hadn’t worked up a trillion dollar debt before Reagan came along, and he TRIPLED it to over 4$ trillion by the time he left office. It’s CLEARLY the Alzheimer’s economics that the brain dead president put us on that has destroyed everything this country ever had. The fact that our “leaders” aren’t smart enough to see that a dramatic change HAS to be made and HAS to be made NOW is proof that they all have money in keeping things just as fucked up as possible. Time to clear out the LOT of them, and put us back on a path of taking care of OURSELVES IN THIS COUNTRY, and not screwing with every other country out there. Then, we wouldn’t even NEED the GD military.

  • Anonymous

    BOTH

  • Anonymous

    Perk Up ?
    manufacturing WHAT ?
    Happy meals ?

  • http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2011/01/10/reagan-budget-director-says-america-at-point-of-no-return-if-pentagon-budget-isnt-sharply-slashed/ Applesauce » Reagan budget director says America at point of no return if Pentagon budget isn’t sharply slashed

    [...] Stockman, a former budget director in the Reagan administration, SAYS “the time has arrived for a classic post-war demobilization of the entire military [...]

  • http://moreyaknow.com/?p=585 Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | Raw Story | MOREYAKNOW.com

    [...] Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | Raw Stor…. Share/Bookmark [...]

  • Anonymous

    What are you talking about? Do you know that there is 6 times the amount of interest paid in to the Banksters as there is taxes taken in? Did you even bother to read the 28th Amendment proposal?

    BTW, the mob has nothing on our Corporate run governing body, nor did Hitler!

  • Anonymous

    The disappointing failure of the Obama Administration to even acknowledge, let alone address, the most serious of the nation’s problems, (of which by comparison inadequate medical insurance was a minor nuisance), convincingly demonstrates that there is no hope. The government, whether led by Republicans or Democrats, is solidly allied with the problems, not the solutions.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/6EX2KJ7LSZMDCBZWCH62Q7CABY Sandra

    Keynesian economics is just plain stupid.

  • ComradeRutherford

    It’s almost funny, if it weren’t so sad, that Reagan’s architects of the very fiscal policies that have created this current imminent collapse are all coming out of the woodwork to say they didn’t mean it, they didn’t think the right-wing would actually keep going with their intentionally ruinous policies.

  • ComradeRutherford

    It’s almost funny, if it weren’t so sad, that Reagan’s architects of the very fiscal policies that have created this current imminent collapse are all coming out of the woodwork to say they didn’t mean it, they didn’t think the right-wing would actually keep going with their intentionally ruinous policies.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4R2P2BMMM5JTCYWGEU4YW6UWQ Dago T

    He’d never had spoken out against the Republican’t mother ship like this before. Makes you wonder into whose Cheerios he was caught peeing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4R2P2BMMM5JTCYWGEU4YW6UWQ Dago T

    He’d never had spoken out against the Republican’t mother ship like this before. Makes you wonder into whose Cheerios he was caught peeing.

  • mick

    hope yea got a lot guns and ammo …if they see the smoke of smell the chicken cooking ,your gunna have some dinner guests,lots of em !

  • mick

    hope yea got a lot guns and ammo …if they see the smoke of smell the chicken cooking ,your gunna have some dinner guests,lots of em !

  • Anonymous

    Interesting comments.

    I spent some time traveling and came across the FEAR element in people.

    When the issue was raised it was met with DENIAL

    GREED I found was ubiquitous in America.

    Money I guess equates in many ways to GREED, but equally everyone has MONEY as their priority and lack of it produces FEAR…

    My God what a Society? I left happy with my experiences.

    Sad way of living one’s life I found.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting comments.

    I spent some time traveling and came across the FEAR element in people.

    When the issue was raised it was met with DENIAL

    GREED I found was ubiquitous in America.

    Money I guess equates in many ways to GREED, but equally everyone has MONEY as their priority and lack of it produces FEAR…

    My God what a Society? I left happy with my experiences.

    Sad way of living one’s life I found.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting comments.

    I spent some time traveling and came across the FEAR element in people.

    When the issue was raised it was met with DENIAL

    GREED I found was ubiquitous in America.

    Money I guess equates in many ways to GREED, but equally everyone has MONEY as their priority and lack of it produces FEAR…

    My God what a Society? I left happy with my experiences.

    Sad way of living one’s life I found.

  • Anonymous

    I am amazed that my political opinions converge with a Reaganite, but I agree with every word!

    Thank you Mr. Stockman for saying what needs to be said.

  • Anonymous

    I am amazed that my political opinions converge with a Reaganite, but I agree with every word!

    Thank you Mr. Stockman for saying what needs to be said.

  • Anonymous

    I am amazed that my political opinions converge with a Reaganite, but I agree with every word!

    Thank you Mr. Stockman for saying what needs to be said.

  • http://revolutionradio.org/?p=10578 America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | RevolutionRadio.org

    [...] Nathan Diebenow RawStory.com Monday, January 10th, [...]

  • Anonymous

    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” – Santayana
    Stockman, is preaching to the choir, only the choir has become complacent due to a barage of misinformation and simple indifference, and those benefitting from this war-military complex for profit apparatus don’t give a crap that their country is inching closer to a repeat of 1929, after all being rich means being able to afford whatever you want, in fact the rich will be able to further enrichen themselves (securing more power), and Obama is no FDR or Teddy Roosevelt, not even close! And, all the same players that got us hear by dismantling the safe guards put in place following 1929 are still in power.

    Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them – Albert Einstein

  • Anonymous

    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” – Santayana
    Stockman, is preaching to the choir, only the choir has become complacent due to a barage of misinformation and simple indifference, and those benefitting from this war-military complex for profit apparatus don’t give a crap that their country is inching closer to a repeat of 1929, after all being rich means being able to afford whatever you want, in fact the rich will be able to further enrichen themselves (securing more power), and Obama is no FDR or Teddy Roosevelt, not even close! And, all the same players that got us hear by dismantling the safe guards put in place following 1929 are still in power.

    Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them – Albert Einstein

  • Anonymous

    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” – Santayana
    Stockman, is preaching to the choir, only the choir has become complacent due to a barage of misinformation and simple indifference, and those benefitting from this war-military complex for profit apparatus don’t give a crap that their country is inching closer to a repeat of 1929, after all being rich means being able to afford whatever you want, in fact the rich will be able to further enrichen themselves (securing more power), and Obama is no FDR or Teddy Roosevelt, not even close! And, all the same players that got us hear by dismantling the safe guards put in place following 1929 are still in power.

    Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them – Albert Einstein

  • http://morallowground.com/2011/01/10/reagan-budget-director-american-empire-is-done-us-economy-has-reached-the-point-of-no-return/ Reagan Budget Director: “American Empire is Done”; US Economy has “Reached the Point of No Return” | Moral Low Ground

    [...] artificial prosperity” is unprecedented in history and that the United States has “reached the point of no return.” Stockman bemoaned “the size of the government, the massive size of the deficits and the [...]

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/6EX2KJ7LSZMDCBZWCH62Q7CABY Sandra

    He spoke out in 1982. Stockman was a god to me.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/6EX2KJ7LSZMDCBZWCH62Q7CABY Sandra

    He spoke out in 1982. Stockman was a god to me.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/6EX2KJ7LSZMDCBZWCH62Q7CABY Sandra

    He spoke out in 1982. Stockman was a god to me.

  • Anonymous

    Cute story but Reagan wasn’t really in the driver’s seat. As an actor and well-known spokesperson for the corporations, Reagan was just a pretty face hired to sell us a bill of goods. We bought it. Bush Sr., however, was a very smart man and knew how to play with those who are really in power in order to promote his own agenda at the same time. Clinton was just another pretty face. Bush Jr. just did what his Daddy told him. And now Obama is just another pretty face watching both Reagan’s employers’ and Bush Sr.’s agendas come to fruition.

    And, still, we pretend that We, the People, actually have a voice in all this.

  • Anonymous

    Cute story but Reagan wasn’t really in the driver’s seat. As an actor and well-known spokesperson for the corporations, Reagan was just a pretty face hired to sell us a bill of goods. We bought it. Bush Sr., however, was a very smart man and knew how to play with those who are really in power in order to promote his own agenda at the same time. Clinton was just another pretty face. Bush Jr. just did what his Daddy told him. And now Obama is just another pretty face watching both Reagan’s employers’ and Bush Sr.’s agendas come to fruition.

    And, still, we pretend that We, the People, actually have a voice in all this.

  • Anonymous

    Cute story but Reagan wasn’t really in the driver’s seat. As an actor and well-known spokesperson for the corporations, Reagan was just a pretty face hired to sell us a bill of goods. We bought it. Bush Sr., however, was a very smart man and knew how to play with those who are really in power in order to promote his own agenda at the same time. Clinton was just another pretty face. Bush Jr. just did what his Daddy told him. And now Obama is just another pretty face watching both Reagan’s employers’ and Bush Sr.’s agendas come to fruition.

    And, still, we pretend that We, the People, actually have a voice in all this.

  • 1984

    The numbers showed already back in the late 80′s that the voodoo economics didn’t work:

    http://img822.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=tricklerea2.jpg

  • 1984

    The numbers showed already back in the late 80′s that the voodoo economics didn’t work:

    http://img822.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=tricklerea2.jpg

  • 1984

    The numbers showed already back in the late 80′s that the voodoo economics didn’t work:

    http://img822.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=tricklerea2.jpg

  • 1984

    The numbers showed already back in the late 80′s that the voodoo economics didn’t work:

    http://img822.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=tricklerea2.jpg

  • Tom

    I was referring to when our military actually did defend the physical country, as in when the British burned Washington DC in the war of 1812. When you find yourself on the receiving end of a war of empire you do have a legitimate right/need to defend yourself. But since then most US wars have not been about defense but about expanding the American empire*.

    Did you go out to the link I provided? If you did, you would have read the first line of the book was “War is a racket. It always has been.” To that I agree, so Im not quite sure what your little tirade is about.

    *Even the war of a 1812 involved the expansion of the young American empire.

  • Anonymous

    I’d be willing to pay higher taxes if they cut the Pentagon ten percent per year for five years. What worries me is, without domestic defense firms, how much real domestic manufacturing muscle is left in the U.S.?

    The overall spending – discretionary, not entitlement — can also be cut ten percent per year for five years. With those cuts, the country has a shot at survival without hyperinflation or default.

    Failing that, we’d all better start learning Chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Your point is accurate. Defense is the biggest jobs program the government has and unlike post-WWII America there is no manufacturing sector waiting to be retooled/created to meet the demands of millions of people freed from the deprivations of a war economy. We need 3-4 million jobs in this country of sufficient value to reinvigorate a middle class. Those jobs which we at one time had, are off-shore now. Addressing the deficit can’t be done in the vacuum of merely tinkering with the defense budget. It needs to be addressed on several fronts simultaneously.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Zentrails/100001475536421 Bob Zentrails

    It’s already too late, IMO. The CIA is out of control, able to fund their own black ops with drug and gun running money. Every single congressman out there depends on military contractors for campaign financing and every single state depends of military contracts to help keep their economies barely solvent.

    It would be nice to be able to gut military spending, but it has been set up so that doing so would completely wreck our economy and probably even the global economy. Guns v Butter has been decided long ago and irreversibly so.

    Stockman is correct The damage was done by Bush and it doesn’t look like there is anything we can do to fix it. However, he is way off suggesting that amount of the debt is the problem. It’s not. That’s a smoke screen used by the industrial-military complex Eisenhower warned us about to keep the status quo. Guys like Glenn Beck are pointing fingers in the exact opposite direction that they should be pointed at.

    The military-industrial complex is firmly in control of the world economy and they aren’t going to let go for any reason.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/6EWDTDGGPM2NUB23WZXTLKO6DI Lorili

    We spend $800B/year not for defense, we spend it to transfer money from the middle class to the rich. ‘Defense’ is just the excuse for the suckers. The same suckers who die in wars to make the rich richer.

  • http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/149909-america-has-reached-the-point-of-no-return-reagan-budget-director-warns.html#post3188128 Anonymous

    [...] [...]

  • Anonymous

    America needs a Marshall Plan for re-industrialization. High quality goods that produce middle paying jobs, that with success, becomes high paying jobs. The McJobs of today that devastates the bottom 90% of all consumers devastate 70% of the economy and 50% of all job creation by small- and medium- sized business.

    This will not happen. We are now in a period of class warfare. Do not believe it because this is not supposed to happen in The US? Well, believe this, “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.” -Warren Buffett. For all the losers out there who wish to hide their head in the sand, good luck. Your are screwed.

    For all those who voted Republican this time around? You voted for giving most of the $800 billion in tax cuts to the very top. And they are going to f**k you. Harder than they have been doing for the last thirty years.

    Stockman is correct. Since 1945, we have been in a war economy. The government and industrialists feared a repeat of The Great Depression, and The Cold War economy was designed to prevent that. Do not even believe that. Read President Eisenhower’s farewell speech to the nation given on January 17th, 1961. His premonition is today’s reality.

    President Eisenhower’s speech was not prescient enough. Not in his time did he substantially mention the confluence of financial and political power into an ‘elite’ class dedicated to preserving their power at the expense of the nation. And then those ‘elites’ went global. What does a villager, city dweller, bureaucrat, or foreign industrialist really know of what an American wants in our locale. Further, why do we think we know what they want. All solutions are, indeed, local.

    Furthermore, with the amount of foreign military produced parts that The United States must use; what happens to our vaunted military hardware lacks the parts to properly function due to embargo by hostile nations. Rare earths from China, anyone? Republicans who support shipping and manufacturing overseas? Democrats who do the same?

    Global Finance knows one allegiance, whether they be a politician or financial ‘wizard’ from The United, Germany, The UK, or China. That allegiance is money. More importantly, physical wealth such as land and raw materials. Money buys those things in a system they have created, in which they are the most knowledgeable at manipulating, and for their benefit.

    Money is a tool. Money can be devalued or destroyed as a currency at their whim and machinations. Through contracts, they will own you. This is not about control of money. This is about control. Social control. Through contracts. Pieces of paper called deeds,CDOs, CDS, mortgage papers.

    They can break contracts. We have seen this in America with ‘fraudclosure’. The once sacrosanct, centuries old, right of property has been violated in the most gross of ways. Yet, only you are violated in such a way. Through the narrow system they have created and mastered, it is you that will be screwed.

    Your pensions and contracts that are reneged upon. Yet, it is you who must feel shame if you discharge your debts through bankruptcy. Not them.

    Good luck.

  • Anonymous

    Asking David Stockman about military budgets is like asking the Captain of the Titanic about ice cubes

  • Jeremiah’s Johnson

    My suggestion to you is……don’t take analogies too literally. That’s like taking the fun out of funny.

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    What was David Stockman doing when he was in a position to actually do something about the deficit? This man was Ronald Reagan’s Budget Director, after all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    NEW YORK, NY – A coalition of seven major public pension systems called on the boards of directors of Bank of America (NYSE: BAC), Citigroup (NYSE: C), JP Morgan Chase (NYSE: JPM), and Wells Fargo (NYSE: WFC) to immediately undertake independent examinations of the banks’ mortgage and foreclosure practices.

    ITS YOUR ASS MISTER BANKSTER

    Led by New York City Comptroller John C. Liu on behalf of the five NYC Pension Funds, the coalition also includes the Connecticut Retirement Plans and Trust Funds, the Illinois State Board of Investment, the Illinois State Universities Retirement System, the New York State Common Retirement Fund, the North Carolina Retirement Systems, and the Oregon Public Employees Retirement Fund.

    The coalition of pension funds called for the banks’ Audit Committees to launch independent examinations of their loan modification, foreclosure, and securitization policies and procedures.

    “This will help to prevent future compliance failures and restore the confidence of shareholders, regulators, legislators and mortgage markets participants,” the coalition advised in its letter.

    The coalition members’ insistence on immediate action reflects the urgency of their concerns over mishandled mortgages. In November, the New York City Pension Funds and Comptroller Liu made a similar request for bank boards to conduct independent policy reviews as part of a shareholder proposal to the banks’ annual meetings in the spring.

    “The banks’ boards cannot continue to pretend the foreclosure mess is the result of technical glitches and paperwork errors,” Comptroller Liu said. “There is a fundamental problem in their procedures that endangers not just homeowners, but shareholders, and local economies. Given the risks involved, only a swift and unbiased audit can reassure shareholders that the pension funds of 700,000 working and retired New Yorkers are in safe hands. The boards of directors have no time to waste.”

    http://comptroller.nyc.gov/press/2011_releases/pr11-01-003.shtm

    The coalition represents more than $430 billion in pension fund investments, including $5.7 billion invested in the four banks.

  • Anonymous

    oh, my mistake!
    he only worked for the guy directly responsible.
    gosh, what a difference.
    /snark

  • Anonymous

    oh, my mistake!
    he only worked for the guy directly responsible.
    gosh, what a difference.
    /snark

  • Anonymous

    oh, my mistake!
    he only worked for the guy directly responsible.
    gosh, what a difference.
    /snark

  • Fedupin10

    Yes they did, in China! The Big 3 left the Detroit community high and dry and fled, first to the burbs, then overseas.

    Don’t try to sell your crap here.

  • Fedupin10

    Yes they did, in China! The Big 3 left the Detroit community high and dry and fled, first to the burbs, then overseas.

    Don’t try to sell your crap here.

  • Fedupin10

    Yes they did, in China! The Big 3 left the Detroit community high and dry and fled, first to the burbs, then overseas.

    Don’t try to sell your crap here.

  • Fedupin10

    What War Taxes? This country has not paid one dime for Bush’s wars.

  • Anonymous

    is that “Face” from teh 80′s sitcom The A-Team?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-W-Roads/629696293 Chris W Roads

    20 years too late. But hey good job captain obvious

  • Anonymous

    Yes, credit, where credit is due, even when it comes decades late.”In science it often happens that scientists say, ‘You know that’s a really good argument; my position is mistaken,’ and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn’t happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time someting like that happened in politics or religion.” — Carl Sagan

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/L5PHKRPFHK3LLTRDNVH2ZBIWOA Cal

    Cheers to Stockman for calling it all out on the carpet. While reasonable people might agree that a measured amount of deficit spending is required in some instances, the sustained (and ever increasing) level of deficit spending that is ongoing for the past 30 years is obviously unsustainable. A new day will dawn for the US when spending comes into line with revenues. The worst excesses will end and hopefully, some sun will shine again.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/L5PHKRPFHK3LLTRDNVH2ZBIWOA Cal

    Testify Brother!

  • Jaimie11

    Denny, you really are in an old, old rut. You have no idea how the system works, you only stamp your feet and hold your breath to try getting your own way, but your own way depends on the corrupt money system. Wake up!

  • Jaimie11

    Try this news on for size – apparently RS doesn’t find it that interesting -

    http://news.antiwar.com/2011/01/09/obama-moves-forward-with-federal-internet-id-scheme/

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/L5PHKRPFHK3LLTRDNVH2ZBIWOA Cal

    Paul Craig Roberts is a favourite essayist. He restores my faith and shows that Americans really are some of the best people in the world. Good luck to him and Mr. Stockman.

  • http://www.ruthgroup.org/2011/01/10/defense-spending-cuts-a-mere-pinprick/ Defense Spending Cuts a Mere Pinprick… | The Ruth Group

    [...] ginning up the numbers for his boss, and puncturing a hole in his “supply-side economics.  We might feel even better about him today, despite his self identification as a [...]

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/L5PHKRPFHK3LLTRDNVH2ZBIWOA Cal

    Well, the men in charge may not want to leave, but they will leave with their tails between their legs in the near future. Unsustainable is unsustainable. It takes money to pay soldiers to occupy countries. Cut off the money spigot and it all ends soon after.

  • http://www.ubim.org/america-has-%e2%80%98reached-the-point-of-no-return%e2%80%99/ America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ | UBIM

    [...] Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | Raw Stor…. Posted by Robert on Monday, January 10th, 2011. Filed under World News. You can follow any [...]

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DPZWG5EHEJBYONDVTXHP5QTMHU RobertW

    David, hold your breath, this country’s not going to do anything until the problem become too great to ignore. If there’s time to pawn the problem off to the next batch of politicians, then procrastinate like it’s 1999.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    We need to focus on fixing the economy. We can worry about the deficit later. If we all have no jobs it’s worse than if we all owe debt.

  • Anonymous

    No mariner worth his salt leaves the warps tied tight.

  • Anonymous

    No mariner worth his salt leaves the warps tied tight.

  • Anonymous

    No mariner worth his salt leaves the warps tied tight.

  • Anonymous

    too late… the harlot of the world is in a death spasm.

    history repeats itself… the fruits of an immoral society are blindness, hardened hearts and death.

  • Phil E. Drifter

    So Jared “I will not use currency that is not backed by gold or silver” Loughner was right. Hmm…

  • Phil E. Drifter

    You obviously have absolutely no idea how the Federal Reserve or US monetary policy works.

    How nice for you.

  • Anonymous

    Finally, someone said what I was thinking. The military industrial complex and borrowing money from China to fund wars and tax cuts has nothing at all to do with Keynesian economics. Stockman pulled a bait and switch. This “article” is a classic example of the disinformation tactics used by Bush’s CIA starting in the 1950s.

  • Anonymous

    Finally, someone said what I was thinking. The military industrial complex and borrowing money from China to fund wars and tax cuts has nothing at all to do with Keynesian economics. Stockman pulled a bait and switch. This “article” is a classic example of the disinformation tactics used by Bush’s CIA starting in the 1950s.

  • Anonymous

    “His solution to deficit spending — a huge across-the-board tax increase — is contrary to the current anti-tax ideology shared among tea party activists as well as fiscal conservatives in the Republican Party.”

    IOW, the people who understand the problem are powerless to do anything about it.

  • Anonymous

    “His solution to deficit spending — a huge across-the-board tax increase — is contrary to the current anti-tax ideology shared among tea party activists as well as fiscal conservatives in the Republican Party.”

    IOW, the people who understand the problem are powerless to do anything about it.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, the republicans, for all their time in yachts and cruise ships don’t actually know the first thing about boats. Another failure of the right wing.

  • Anonymous

    Have you all forgotten your history – and willing to let David Stockman re-write it for you?

    David got his butt kicked for letting the truth behind the Reagan arms build-up/tax cuts, which was, explicitly, to drive the deficits up to a point where any social programs would be impossible to fund. Well, he got his wish, in spades, except the opposition didn’t let that stop them from passing recklessly expensive social programs anyway.

    There’s a lot more idiocy behind the story (Friedman’s monetarism, supply side madness etc), but this is the last guy that should be listened to even if one or two or his suggestions seem to coincide with your wishes. If we are so morally and intellectually bankrupt that we have to give this stooge a stage, then there really is no hope for the future.

  • Anonymous

    You should really choose your deities more carefully. Humans make bad Gods. Ask those who followed Alexander the great.

  • Anonymous

    Military spending, collapse of US empire?

    I am not a Reagan Fan at all, but Paul Craig Roberts Puts it right in this video:

    “You tell the people you are under attack. It’s an old Nazi Tactic for the MILITARY SECURITY Industrial Complex:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIHOP4I3Ovo

  • Anonymous

    Dude, he discarded Reagonomics just two to four years after he sold it to Reagan. His book, The Triumph of Politics:Why the Reagan Revolution Failed was written in 1986. So no, I haven’t been under a rock, besides, that would hurt.

  • Anonymous

    Really? That is what FDR built his policies on, and they kept us from having a serious financial problem for 50 years, which was a record for the country. We had never gone more than 30 years before that without one.

    how is investing in your own country stupid?

  • Anonymous

    Probably looking the other way, as most of our professional politicians are wont to do when they are in a position to actually have an effect. What a bunch of cowards.

  • Anonymous

    Probably looking the other way, as most of our professional politicians are wont to do when they are in a position to actually have an effect. What a bunch of cowards.

  • Anonymous

    Probably looking the other way, as most of our professional politicians are wont to do when they are in a position to actually have an effect. What a bunch of cowards.

  • Anonymous

    Probably looking the other way, as most of our professional politicians are wont to do when they are in a position to actually have an effect. What a bunch of cowards.

  • http://dailykix.com/1b27eaba-569f-42f1-bba8-801959d13694/story/america-has-reached-the-point-of-no-return-reagan-budget-director-warns-raw-story A DailyKix Top Story – Trackback from DailyKix.com

    A DailyKix Top Story – Trackback from DailyKix.com…

    America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | Raw Story…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPYPENFWNSNTCJZAEBBBOCLWQ4 Matthew

    He was sucking copious amounts of public teet.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPYPENFWNSNTCJZAEBBBOCLWQ4 Matthew

    He was sucking copious amounts of public teet.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPYPENFWNSNTCJZAEBBBOCLWQ4 Matthew

    He was sucking copious amounts of public teet.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPYPENFWNSNTCJZAEBBBOCLWQ4 Matthew

    He was sucking copious amounts of public teet.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPYPENFWNSNTCJZAEBBBOCLWQ4 Matthew

    He was sucking copious amounts of public teet.

  • Anonymous

    I like what neoconbuster outlined. Instead of current Military Industrial Complex, MIC, I propose using Military Security Industrial Complex, or MSIC. In my opinion, MSIC is a more appropriate acronym.

    I am from California and informed about the fragile house of cards supporting the US Financial system and various simple “trigger” events that could cause it to collapse. The level of deception, debt, and sheer volume of printing money by fiat, is out of my experience of any type of economic system that can be explained rationally. I was surprised that during a recent trip to Michigan, my conservative relatives are also aware and informed about this issue.

  • Anonymous

    It appears it’s coming faster than I had envisioned. I figure about 15 years before its time. Retired in 3 years….good luck to y’all just now entering the workforce.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t help but think that the Powers That Be are actually deliberately bankrupting the country.

    Why else would they so blatantly and so deliberately bankrupt the country?

    It’s the same way the Soviet Union went down. Afghanistan. First one superpower, then the other.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t help but think that the Powers That Be are actually deliberately bankrupting the country.

    Why else would they so blatantly and so deliberately bankrupt the country?

    It’s the same way the Soviet Union went down. Afghanistan. First one superpower, then the other.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GCPX7DXZGK2H2CPNYRR5IS5A64 Turnip Mcgee

    That the ‘we’ should be liable for the debt that really represents the profits taken by the ‘them’, is reprehensible. That when we are faced with future austerity, we should seek retribution or recompense from that ‘they’, should be expected.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmorganhazard Bob Hazard

    shut up loser. and you tat makes you look like a poser.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmorganhazard Bob Hazard

    shut up loser. and you tat makes you look like a poser.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, it’s deliberate. The U.S. is the only thing standing in the way of “the new world order” and the $ is the only thing standing in the way of a one world currency. Once we fall, the bankers will have absolute power over it’s subjects, we the people.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, it’s deliberate. The U.S. is the only thing standing in the way of “the new world order” and the $ is the only thing standing in the way of a one world currency. Once we fall, the bankers will have absolute power over it’s subjects, we the people.

  • Anonymous

    Re:”deliberately bankrupting the country”
    They did it ALMOST in the 80′s
    Jimmy Carter was elected and he made one big mistake–supported Palestine freedom.OUCH!
    Jews in America did NOT like it a bit. MoneyChangers wanted this doofus gone and no 2nd term. Plan,jack up the interest rates to almost 21% and put the fear to folks that oil resources will be gone in 10 years. Thousands of folks lost there homes. Jimmy Boy never got a 2nd term. Reagan/Bush got voted in–and interest rates dropped overnite. Israel was happy.
    Same thing has happened in Georgie Boy’s term but opposite–very low interest rates–then Americans wouldn’t give a shit what government did to them–as long they could get a home–cheaper than paying rent and the house value of zero down payment–sky rocketed.in weeks
    While the party went on–Americans got drunk on low interest rates–now the party is over suckers {:^(

  • Anonymous

    Re:”deliberately bankrupting the country”
    They did it ALMOST in the 80′s
    Jimmy Carter was elected and he made one big mistake–supported Palestine freedom.OUCH!
    Jews in America did NOT like it a bit. MoneyChangers wanted this doofus gone and no 2nd term. Plan,jack up the interest rates to almost 21% and put the fear to folks that oil resources will be gone in 10 years. Thousands of folks lost there homes. Jimmy Boy never got a 2nd term. Reagan/Bush got voted in–and interest rates dropped overnite. Israel was happy.
    Same thing has happened in Georgie Boy’s term but opposite–very low interest rates–then Americans wouldn’t give a shit what government did to them–as long they could get a home–cheaper than paying rent and the house value of zero down payment–sky rocketed.in weeks
    While the party went on–Americans got drunk on low interest rates–now the party is over suckers {:^(

  • Anonymous

    Government of the people, by the people.

    F*R*E*E* A*M*E*R*I*C*A*

    REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

  • Anonymous

    Government of the people, by the people.

    F*R*E*E* A*M*E*R*I*C*A*

    REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

  • http://thetinfoilhatsociety.com/ Susan

    The government CANNOT release all those soldiers even were they to want to do so. To do that would create instant and mass unemployment the likes of which we’ve never seen before. It would cause revolution. Our wars are a way of prolonging a dead economy.

  • http://thetinfoilhatsociety.com/ Susan

    The government CANNOT release all those soldiers even were they to want to do so. To do that would create instant and mass unemployment the likes of which we’ve never seen before. It would cause revolution. Our wars are a way of prolonging a dead economy.

  • http://thetinfoilhatsociety.com/ Susan

    The government CANNOT release all those soldiers even were they to want to do so. To do that would create instant and mass unemployment the likes of which we’ve never seen before. It would cause revolution. Our wars are a way of prolonging a dead economy.

  • http://thetinfoilhatsociety.com/ Susan

    The government CANNOT release all those soldiers even were they to want to do so. To do that would create instant and mass unemployment the likes of which we’ve never seen before. It would cause revolution. Our wars are a way of prolonging a dead economy.

  • http://thetinfoilhatsociety.com/ Susan

    The government CANNOT release all those soldiers even were they to want to do so. To do that would create instant and mass unemployment the likes of which we’ve never seen before. It would cause revolution. Our wars are a way of prolonging a dead economy.

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    This is the type of shite that bothers me to no end. When he’s in a position to actually do something, to make a difference, there’s not a peep. I mean, this guy wasn’t some cog (like the rest of us, generally speaking, seemingly powerless to effect any real change) in the machine; he had the ear of the President of the United States.

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    This is the type of shite that bothers me to no end. When he’s in a position to actually do something, to make a difference, there’s not a peep. I mean, this guy wasn’t some cog (like the rest of us, generally speaking, seemingly powerless to effect any real change) in the machine; he had the ear of the President of the United States.

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    This is the type of shite that bothers me to no end. When he’s in a position to actually do something, to make a difference, there’s not a peep. I mean, this guy wasn’t some cog (like the rest of us, generally speaking, seemingly powerless to effect any real change) in the machine; he had the ear of the President of the United States.

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    This is the type of shite that bothers me to no end. When he’s in a position to actually do something, to make a difference, there’s not a peep. I mean, this guy wasn’t some cog (like the rest of us, generally speaking, seemingly powerless to effect any real change) in the machine; he had the ear of the President of the United States.

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    This is the type of shite that bothers me to no end. When he’s in a position to actually do something, to make a difference, there’s not a peep. I mean, this guy wasn’t some cog (like the rest of us, generally speaking, seemingly powerless to effect any real change) in the machine; he had the ear of the President of the United States.

  • http://politicsnewsfeed.com/2011/01/11/%e2%80%9cwe-are-now-at-a-historical-inflection-point-at-which-the-time-has-arrived-for-a-classic-post-war-demobilization-of-the-entire-military-establishment/ “We Are Now at a Historical Inflection Point at Which the Time Has Arrived for a Classic Post-War Demobilization of the Entire Military Establishment" | PoliticsNewsfeed.com

    [...] Reagan's budget director – David Stockman – pulls no punches in a must-read interview with Raw Story:We are now at a historical inflection point at which the time has arrived for a [...]

  • Anonymous

    I was a conservative republican until that gang assumed power. After two years I was ready to pry them all out of there. I went through what a lot of Obama supporters have discribed. I also remember when Mr. Stockman mismanaged his calculater and showed president Reagan a number that indicated a budgetary surplus that was widley touted until it was discovered that the amount was negative and we had deficit instead. How embarrising.

  • Anonymous

    David Stockman has had a sudden awakening. Where were these words of wisdom during the Reagan Administration’s trickle down economics policy that started the USA on its downward slope? And for that matter, during the GW Bush Administration.

  • Anonymous

    What happens after the Point of no Return?

    1. Shock and denial
    No really, unbelievably, countries stop loaning money to the USA. Severe austerity kicks in and people blame foreign countries for problems the USA put on itself.

    2. Pain and Guilt
    Blaming external threats did not provide any solutions. The blame arrow points inward and a lot of blaming of the other political party and historic figures begins.

    3. Anger and Bargaining
    Being the USA, we’ll start a war to get allies and sympathy, to restart the loans again to try to turn back the clock and avoid the pain, but other countries will really not loan more money.

    4. Depression, Reflection, Loneliness
    After digging ourselves deeper into the hole with wasteful actions of denial, escaping the reality of the situation seems hopeless.

    5. The Upward Path
    Calmly reflecting on what really lead up to this point. Examining past choices made by our political leaders with open eyes and without covering it up with emotional appeals to patriotism and nationalistic memes.

    6. Reconstruction
    Try to be realistic about getting along with the rest of the world in an appropriate way and living within financial means.

    7. Amnesia
    Once the economy has recovered, total amnesia takes hold and the bankers and oil companies get back in control of Congress and run the country into the ground again. Repeat from step 1.

    Song by Kansas.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60A1yKc2hi4

  • Anonymous

    What happens after the Point of no Return?

    1. Shock and denial
    No really, unbelievably, countries stop loaning money to the USA. Severe austerity kicks in and people blame foreign countries for problems the USA put on itself.

    2. Pain and Guilt
    Blaming external threats did not provide any solutions. The blame arrow points inward and a lot of blaming of the other political party and historic figures begins.

    3. Anger and Bargaining
    Being the USA, we’ll start a war to get allies and sympathy, to restart the loans again to try to turn back the clock and avoid the pain, but other countries will really not loan more money.

    4. Depression, Reflection, Loneliness
    After digging ourselves deeper into the hole with wasteful actions of denial, escaping the reality of the situation seems hopeless.

    5. The Upward Path
    Calmly reflecting on what really lead up to this point. Examining past choices made by our political leaders with open eyes and without covering it up with emotional appeals to patriotism and nationalistic memes.

    6. Reconstruction
    Try to be realistic about getting along with the rest of the world in an appropriate way and living within financial means.

    7. Amnesia
    Once the economy has recovered, total amnesia takes hold and the bankers and oil companies get back in control of Congress and run the country into the ground again. Repeat from step 1.

    Song by Kansas.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60A1yKc2hi4

  • http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2011/01/%e2%80%9cwe-are-now-at-a-historical-inflection-point-at-which-the-time-has-arrived-for-a-classic-post-war-demobilization-of-the-entire-military-establishment/ “We Are Now at a Historical Inflection Point at Which the Time Has Arrived for a Classic Post-War Demobilization of the Entire Military Establishment" | Dark Politricks

    [...] Reagan’s budget director – David Stockman – pulls no punches in a must-read interview with Raw Story: We are now at a historical inflection point at which the time has arrived for a [...]

  • http://twitter.com/PacificNewsNet Pacific News Net

    The way I think changed forever on August 28, 2005 when I met with my stock broker and asked his advice on a trade I was about to make. He laughed and said, “Didn’t you hear about Dorothy’s slippers being stolen last night… That is the elite telling each other to start buying silver. It’s time to buy silver.” He explained that the original Wizard of Oz had silver slippers that got Dorothy down the yellow brick road. They were changed to ruby to keep the original clues hidden, (just like Jack Ruby.) I took his advice, and since that day, silver has been on the rise. He explained that these clowns tell you everything that they are going to do, before they do it. You just have to understand how they talk. When the slippers got stolen, the silver game was on from that point foward. He also said that these clowns like sixes too, and we’ll have about six years until we won’t be able to afford it anymore. I’m buying silver until September.
    http://www.pacificnewsnet.com

  • http://twitter.com/PacificNewsNet Pacific News Net

    The way I think changed forever on August 28, 2005 when I met with my stock broker and asked his advice on a trade I was about to make. He laughed and said, “Didn’t you hear about Dorothy’s slippers being stolen last night… That is the elite telling each other to start buying silver. It’s time to buy silver.” He explained that the original Wizard of Oz had silver slippers that got Dorothy down the yellow brick road. They were changed to ruby to keep the original clues hidden, (just like Jack Ruby.) I took his advice, and since that day, silver has been on the rise. He explained that these clowns tell you everything that they are going to do, before they do it. You just have to understand how they talk. When the slippers got stolen, the silver game was on from that point foward. He also said that these clowns like sixes too, and we’ll have about six years until we won’t be able to afford it anymore. I’m buying silver until September.
    http://www.pacificnewsnet.com

  • http://twitter.com/PacificNewsNet Pacific News Net

    The way I think changed forever on August 28, 2005 when I met with my stock broker and asked his advice on a trade I was about to make. He laughed and said, “Didn’t you hear about Dorothy’s slippers being stolen last night… That is the elite telling each other to start buying silver. It’s time to buy silver.” He explained that the original Wizard of Oz had silver slippers that got Dorothy down the yellow brick road. They were changed to ruby to keep the original clues hidden, (just like Jack Ruby.) I took his advice, and since that day, silver has been on the rise. He explained that these clowns tell you everything that they are going to do, before they do it. You just have to understand how they talk. When the slippers got stolen, the silver game was on from that point foward. He also said that these clowns like sixes too, and we’ll have about six years until we won’t be able to afford it anymore. I’m buying silver until September.
    http://www.pacificnewsnet.com

  • Anonymous

    This headline should read: “America destroyed by design.” Why has a federal bank more power over the constitution it’s public servants and the american people?

  • Anonymous

    This headline should read: “America destroyed by design.” Why has a federal bank more power over the constitution it’s public servants and the american people?

  • Anonymous

    This headline should read: “America destroyed by design.” Why has a federal bank more power over the constitution it’s public servants and the american people?

  • Anonymous

    This headline should read: “America destroyed by design.” Why has a federal bank more power over the constitution it’s public servants and the american people?

  • Anonymous

    Now they’re effing US over so we’ll back up on Medical. Corporate America doesn’t need help. They juggle their books and reports so they look like they do. That bank/wallstreet bailout was totally fake, we all picked up on that but Congress gave them our children’s money anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Now they’re effing US over so we’ll back up on Medical. Corporate America doesn’t need help. They juggle their books and reports so they look like they do. That bank/wallstreet bailout was totally fake, we all picked up on that but Congress gave them our children’s money anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Now they’re effing US over so we’ll back up on Medical. Corporate America doesn’t need help. They juggle their books and reports so they look like they do. That bank/wallstreet bailout was totally fake, we all picked up on that but Congress gave them our children’s money anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Now they’re effing US over so we’ll back up on Medical. Corporate America doesn’t need help. They juggle their books and reports so they look like they do. That bank/wallstreet bailout was totally fake, we all picked up on that but Congress gave them our children’s money anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Now they’re effing US over so we’ll back up on Medical. Corporate America doesn’t need help. They juggle their books and reports so they look like they do. That bank/wallstreet bailout was totally fake, we all picked up on that but Congress gave them our children’s money anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Great. Why didn’t he talk Reagan into this before it was too late?

  • Anonymous

    Great. Why didn’t he talk Reagan into this before it was too late?

  • Anonymous

    Great. Why didn’t he talk Reagan into this before it was too late?

  • Anonymous

    Great. Why didn’t he talk Reagan into this before it was too late?

  • 1shivers

    gotta love these voodoo Reagan guys. Do as I say not as I did.

    This is the same as Lee Atwater apologizing on his death bed for poisoning politics. He gets to leave the mess behind and try to apologize his way into heaven, and we are left with Fox News.
    I hope the flames are hot.

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely correct. I am sure you’ve probably already watched Why We Fight a film by Eugene Jarecki, but if you haven’t I hope you do so soon. Our economy is based on war and we are screwed.

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely correct. I am sure you’ve probably already watched Why We Fight a film by Eugene Jarecki, but if you haven’t I hope you do so soon. Our economy is based on war and we are screwed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Zentrails/100001475536421 Bob Zentrails

    What rot. Clinton actually had a surplus not a deficit. It was the two Bushes and Reagan who are, by far, responsible for the national debt, which is not even close to crisis levels. Each Bush involved us in two separate, expensive, wars which in both cases, only one war was called for.

    At least Reagan didn’t get us into any wars and deserves a ton of credit for the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    You learn in freshman economics class that when in a recession you borrow money to get out of it and in boom times you pay it back. We are not even close to “unsustainable deficit spending” that’s just a nonsense RW talking point.

    W. squandered his chance to pay any of the debt off when he passed his tax cuts for the rich.

    Reagan’s “peace dividend.” surprise, surprise, never happened and the RWers now in charge of the House are unlikely to change that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Zentrails/100001475536421 Bob Zentrails

    What rot. Clinton actually had a surplus not a deficit. It was the two Bushes and Reagan who are, by far, responsible for the national debt, which is not even close to crisis levels. Each Bush involved us in two separate, expensive, wars which in both cases, only one war was called for.

    At least Reagan didn’t get us into any wars and deserves a ton of credit for the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    You learn in freshman economics class that when in a recession you borrow money to get out of it and in boom times you pay it back. We are not even close to “unsustainable deficit spending” that’s just a nonsense RW talking point.

    W. squandered his chance to pay any of the debt off when he passed his tax cuts for the rich.

    Reagan’s “peace dividend.” surprise, surprise, never happened and the RWers now in charge of the House are unlikely to change that.

  • Anonymous

    And Wallstreet and the Banks really needed that bailout. Uh huh. You betcha. That dude looks high on crack.

  • Anonymous

    And Wallstreet and the Banks really needed that bailout. Uh huh. You betcha. That dude looks high on crack.

  • Ron

    Mostly right, but there will also be intrusions from the rest of the world during the process. The process you outline will take a couple of generations to play out, during which time there will probably be a war in Asia. We may also have a civil war here, or have war thrust upon us from outside, since we have an existential crisis about every 80 years.

    Plan for the long term.

  • Ron

    Mostly right, but there will also be intrusions from the rest of the world during the process. The process you outline will take a couple of generations to play out, during which time there will probably be a war in Asia. We may also have a civil war here, or have war thrust upon us from outside, since we have an existential crisis about every 80 years.

    Plan for the long term.

  • Ron

    Mostly right, but there will also be intrusions from the rest of the world during the process. The process you outline will take a couple of generations to play out, during which time there will probably be a war in Asia. We may also have a civil war here, or have war thrust upon us from outside, since we have an existential crisis about every 80 years.

    Plan for the long term.

  • Ron

    Mostly right, but there will also be intrusions from the rest of the world during the process. The process you outline will take a couple of generations to play out, during which time there will probably be a war in Asia. We may also have a civil war here, or have war thrust upon us from outside, since we have an existential crisis about every 80 years.

    Plan for the long term.

  • Ron

    Mostly right, but there will also be intrusions from the rest of the world during the process. The process you outline will take a couple of generations to play out, during which time there will probably be a war in Asia. We may also have a civil war here, or have war thrust upon us from outside, since we have an existential crisis about every 80 years.

    Plan for the long term.

  • Ron

    Mostly right, but there will also be intrusions from the rest of the world during the process. The process you outline will take a couple of generations to play out, during which time there will probably be a war in Asia. We may also have a civil war here, or have war thrust upon us from outside, since we have an existential crisis about every 80 years.

    Plan for the long term.

  • Anonymous

    “Failing that, we’d all better start learning Chinese.”

    Math and science, too.

  • Anonymous

    “Failing that, we’d all better start learning Chinese.”

    Math and science, too.

  • Anonymous

    “Failing that, we’d all better start learning Chinese.”

    Math and science, too.

  • Anonymous

    “Failing that, we’d all better start learning Chinese.”

    Math and science, too.

  • Anonymous

    “Failing that, we’d all better start learning Chinese.”

    Math and science, too.

  • Anonymous

    “Failing that, we’d all better start learning Chinese.”

    Math and science, too.

  • Anonymous

    “Failing that, we’d all better start learning Chinese.”

    Math and science, too.

  • Anonymous

    Japan and China have both made oil deals with Russia, by-passing the Straits of Hormuz and Malacca.

  • Ron

    There is hope for the future, but the country must go through a Phoenix cycle first. They used to call it “tribulation” in the Bible. There will be widespread pain, which will teach people to live better. Something positive will eventually emerge, but it is impossible to predict what.

  • Anonymous

    There’ll no general strike. Instead, people will blame scapegoats and non-existent conspiracies, anything but own up to their own mistakes. A large share of Americans are counting on the Rapture to save them. When they give up, they’ll blame Liberals, Jews, Muslims…. The other Americans will be no smarter. (Probably they’ll blame China and lynch the local Chinese restaurant owner). Civil War II will be a lot like Bosnia or Jayhawkers vs Bushwhackers.

  • Anonymous

    How many are well-educated enough to re-create a modern economy? The days when all you needed to know was how to sign your paycheck are long gone. Schools that emphasize basketball and football and don’t teach math and science and languages are a big problem. No one *really* wants to change them, either. Expect more Creation Science, Flood Geology, etc.

  • Anonymous

    How many are well-educated enough to re-create a modern economy? The days when all you needed to know was how to sign your paycheck are long gone. Schools that emphasize basketball and football and don’t teach math and science and languages are a big problem. No one *really* wants to change them, either. Expect more Creation Science, Flood Geology, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Rebuild the railway system.

  • Anonymous

    Rebuild the railway system.

  • Anonymous

    China, Japan, Russia, buy a lot of T-bills and bonds. Probably these will turn out to be bad gambles.

  • Anonymous

    China, Japan, Russia, buy a lot of T-bills and bonds. Probably these will turn out to be bad gambles.

  • Anonymous

    “Rich people in china are wallpapering their houses with dollars and using dollars for toilet paper because they can’t do anything else with them.”

    Not literally true.

  • Anonymous

    “Rich people in china are wallpapering their houses with dollars and using dollars for toilet paper because they can’t do anything else with them.”

    Not literally true.

  • Anonymous

    All the renminbi that China’s central bank uses to buy US T-bills come from the savings of young people working long hours for small salaries. Who in the US saves?

  • Anonymous

    All the renminbi that China’s central bank uses to buy US T-bills come from the savings of young people working long hours for small salaries. Who in the US saves?

  • Anonymous

    All the renminbi that China’s central bank uses to buy US T-bills come from the savings of young people working long hours for small salaries. Who in the US saves?

  • Anonymous

    Great reporting and kudos to Raw Story. Stockman must be feeling his mortality to come out with this now; wish he had done it back in the day. America as a country needs to stop kidding itself that we can keep this crap up. I’ll bet if you asked 10 people on the street weather they would prefer us to keep waging wars or finding ways to create jobs and 9 would answer jobs. It’s just that simple. We need to create a building boom to build infrastructure and machines that will help solve our societal problems.
    We also need to get real about where the state fits into our lives. Right now it’s us versus them and that’s just not right. The government should work FOR the people, not the other way around as it is now.
    It’s a fundamental problem I don’t have an answer for. Comments?

  • Anonymous

    Great reporting and kudos to Raw Story. Stockman must be feeling his mortality to come out with this now; wish he had done it back in the day. America as a country needs to stop kidding itself that we can keep this crap up. I’ll bet if you asked 10 people on the street weather they would prefer us to keep waging wars or finding ways to create jobs and 9 would answer jobs. It’s just that simple. We need to create a building boom to build infrastructure and machines that will help solve our societal problems.
    We also need to get real about where the state fits into our lives. Right now it’s us versus them and that’s just not right. The government should work FOR the people, not the other way around as it is now.
    It’s a fundamental problem I don’t have an answer for. Comments?

  • Anonymous

    Great reporting and kudos to Raw Story. Stockman must be feeling his mortality to come out with this now; wish he had done it back in the day. America as a country needs to stop kidding itself that we can keep this crap up. I’ll bet if you asked 10 people on the street weather they would prefer us to keep waging wars or finding ways to create jobs and 9 would answer jobs. It’s just that simple. We need to create a building boom to build infrastructure and machines that will help solve our societal problems.
    We also need to get real about where the state fits into our lives. Right now it’s us versus them and that’s just not right. The government should work FOR the people, not the other way around as it is now.
    It’s a fundamental problem I don’t have an answer for. Comments?

  • http://www.ethosnetnews.com Ethos Net News

    Remember the bridge collapse in Minnesota? Look at what’s happened to travel since then. What do you think it means with the Metro Dome collapsing, (or “deflating”) right in front of our eyes. I think they are trying to tell us something.
    http://www.ethosnetnews.com

  • http://www.ethosnetnews.com Ethos Net News

    Remember the bridge collapse in Minnesota? Look at what’s happened to travel since then. What do you think it means with the Metro Dome collapsing, (or “deflating”) right in front of our eyes. I think they are trying to tell us something.
    http://www.ethosnetnews.com

  • http://www.ethosnetnews.com Ethos Net News

    Remember the bridge collapse in Minnesota? Look at what’s happened to travel since then. What do you think it means with the Metro Dome collapsing, (or “deflating”) right in front of our eyes. I think they are trying to tell us something.
    http://www.ethosnetnews.com

  • Anonymous

    What does the US produce that other countries want? Movies? Soybeans? Pork bellies? Lots of warplanes, I know. Don’t count on all those factories making toasters and tvs to come back.

  • Anonymous

    What does the US produce that other countries want? Movies? Soybeans? Pork bellies? Lots of warplanes, I know. Don’t count on all those factories making toasters and tvs to come back.

  • Anonymous

    What does the US produce that other countries want? Movies? Soybeans? Pork bellies? Lots of warplanes, I know. Don’t count on all those factories making toasters and tvs to come back.

  • Anonymous

    A plutocratic, fascistic spiral is taking place in this country. Anyone who can’t see it lacks very basic powers of observation.

    It started with Reagan, accelerated under Bush II, and took a huge leap with the Citizens United decision. Unfortunately, this Supreme Court appears willing and eager to push us in that direction. (I eagerly await the retirement – or impeachment – of Thomas, Kennedy, Scalia, Roberts and Alito. They should be damned for what they’ve done to our Democracy.)

    It’s nice that Stockman is repentant today, and promoting sanity in our defense budget. It’s the least he can do after being complicit in the creation of our plutocratic obsession with tax cuts for the rich, and the paranoid fear-mongering that lead to the enormous expansion of our defense budget in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    A plutocratic, fascistic spiral is taking place in this country. Anyone who can’t see it lacks very basic powers of observation.

    It started with Reagan, accelerated under Bush II, and took a huge leap with the Citizens United decision. Unfortunately, this Supreme Court appears willing and eager to push us in that direction. (I eagerly await the retirement – or impeachment – of Thomas, Kennedy, Scalia, Roberts and Alito. They should be damned for what they’ve done to our Democracy.)

    It’s nice that Stockman is repentant today, and promoting sanity in our defense budget. It’s the least he can do after being complicit in the creation of our plutocratic obsession with tax cuts for the rich, and the paranoid fear-mongering that lead to the enormous expansion of our defense budget in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    A plutocratic, fascistic spiral is taking place in this country. Anyone who can’t see it lacks very basic powers of observation.

    It started with Reagan, accelerated under Bush II, and took a huge leap with the Citizens United decision. Unfortunately, this Supreme Court appears willing and eager to push us in that direction. (I eagerly await the retirement – or impeachment – of Thomas, Kennedy, Scalia, Roberts and Alito. They should be damned for what they’ve done to our Democracy.)

    It’s nice that Stockman is repentant today, and promoting sanity in our defense budget. It’s the least he can do after being complicit in the creation of our plutocratic obsession with tax cuts for the rich, and the paranoid fear-mongering that lead to the enormous expansion of our defense budget in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    Neocons work together with born-again end-timers, each trying to use the other for fictional goals! Like Armageddon or ruling the world.

  • Anonymous

    Neocons work together with born-again end-timers, each trying to use the other for fictional goals! Like Armageddon or ruling the world.

  • Anonymous

    Neocons work together with born-again end-timers, each trying to use the other for fictional goals! Like Armageddon or ruling the world.

  • http://www.ethosnetnews.com Ethos Net News

    Remember the bridge collapse in Minnesota? Look at what’s happened to travel since then. What do you think it means with the Metro Dome collapsing, (or “deflating”) right in front of our eyes. I think they are trying to tell us something.
    http://www.ethosnetnews.com

  • http://www.ethosnetnews.com Ethos Net News

    Remember the bridge collapse in Minnesota? Look at what’s happened to travel since then. What do you think it means with the Metro Dome collapsing, (or “deflating”) right in front of our eyes. I think they are trying to tell us something.
    http://www.ethosnetnews.com

  • http://www.ethosnetnews.com Ethos Net News

    Remember the bridge collapse in Minnesota? Look at what’s happened to travel since then. What do you think it means with the Metro Dome collapsing, (or “deflating”) right in front of our eyes. I think they are trying to tell us something.
    http://www.ethosnetnews.com

  • http://www.ethosnetnews.com Ethos Net News

    Remember the bridge collapse in Minnesota? Look at what’s happened to travel since then. What do you think it means with the Metro Dome collapsing, (or “deflating”) right in front of our eyes. I think they are trying to tell us something.
    http://www.ethosnetnews.com

  • Anonymous

    The problem is older than Reagan. The US has been living by the sword for a long time now, since the end of WW II. Now the US is dying by the sword.

  • Anonymous

    The problem is older than Reagan. The US has been living by the sword for a long time now, since the end of WW II. Now the US is dying by the sword.

  • Anonymous

    The problem is older than Reagan. The US has been living by the sword for a long time now, since the end of WW II. Now the US is dying by the sword.

  • Anonymous

    The problem is older than Reagan. The US has been living by the sword for a long time now, since the end of WW II. Now the US is dying by the sword.

  • Anonymous

    China has shown us capitalism has no need of democracy. I believe the reverse is also true.

  • Anonymous

    low interest rates were not the cause. financial deregulation was.

  • http://www.ethosnetnews.com Ethos Net News

    EthosNetNews responds to PacificNewsNet-
    “The way I think changed forever on August 28, 2005 when I met with my stock broker and asked his advice on a trade I was about to make. He laughed and said, “Didn’t you hear about Dorothy’s slippers being stolen last night… That is the elite telling each other to start buying silver. It’s time to buy silver.” He explained that the original Wizard of Oz had silver slippers that got Dorothy down the yellow brick road. They were changed to ruby to keep the original clues hidden, (just like Jack Ruby.) I took his advice, and since that day, silver has been on the rise. He explained that these clowns tell you everything that they are going to do, before they do it. You just have to understand how they talk. When the slippers got stolen, the silver game was on from that point foward. He also said that these clowns like sixes too, and we’ll have about six years until we won’t be able to afford it anymore. I’m buying silver until September. ”
    http://www.pacificnewsnet.com
    Response follows:

    “Remember the bridge collapse in Minnesota? Look at what’s happened to travel since then. What do you think it means with the Metro Dome collapsing, (or “deflating”) right in front of our eyes. I think they are trying to tell us something.”
    http://www.ethosnetnews.com

  • Anonymous

    Downsizing the military industrial complex is not without its own peril. More than the releasing of 500k to 1mm military and Pentagon personnel over the span of a few years, the greater shock will come from the unemployment created by slashing military contractor spending and the ensuing layoffs generated in the private defense contractor sector. Of course, our Repugnant friends were ready, willing and even gleeful at the prospects of killing GM, which would have resulted in a best estimate of 3mm jobs lost between GM and its parts suppliers.

  • Anonymous

    Downsizing the military industrial complex is not without its own peril. More than the releasing of 500k to 1mm military and Pentagon personnel over the span of a few years, the greater shock will come from the unemployment created by slashing military contractor spending and the ensuing layoffs generated in the private defense contractor sector. Of course, our Repugnant friends were ready, willing and even gleeful at the prospects of killing GM, which would have resulted in a best estimate of 3mm jobs lost between GM and its parts suppliers.

  • Anonymous

    Downsizing the military industrial complex is not without its own peril. More than the releasing of 500k to 1mm military and Pentagon personnel over the span of a few years, the greater shock will come from the unemployment created by slashing military contractor spending and the ensuing layoffs generated in the private defense contractor sector. Of course, our Repugnant friends were ready, willing and even gleeful at the prospects of killing GM, which would have resulted in a best estimate of 3mm jobs lost between GM and its parts suppliers.

  • Anonymous

    Downsizing the military industrial complex is not without its own peril. More than the releasing of 500k to 1mm military and Pentagon personnel over the span of a few years, the greater shock will come from the unemployment created by slashing military contractor spending and the ensuing layoffs generated in the private defense contractor sector. Of course, our Repugnant friends were ready, willing and even gleeful at the prospects of killing GM, which would have resulted in a best estimate of 3mm jobs lost between GM and its parts suppliers.

  • Anonymous

    Downsizing the military industrial complex is not without its own peril. More than the releasing of 500k to 1mm military and Pentagon personnel over the span of a few years, the greater shock will come from the unemployment created by slashing military contractor spending and the ensuing layoffs generated in the private defense contractor sector. Of course, our Repugnant friends were ready, willing and even gleeful at the prospects of killing GM, which would have resulted in a best estimate of 3mm jobs lost between GM and its parts suppliers.

  • Anonymous

    Downsizing the military industrial complex is not without its own peril. More than the releasing of 500k to 1mm military and Pentagon personnel over the span of a few years, the greater shock will come from the unemployment created by slashing military contractor spending and the ensuing layoffs generated in the private defense contractor sector. Of course, our Repugnant friends were ready, willing and even gleeful at the prospects of killing GM, which would have resulted in a best estimate of 3mm jobs lost between GM and its parts suppliers.

  • Anonymous

    Downsizing the military industrial complex is not without its own peril. More than the releasing of 500k to 1mm military and Pentagon personnel over the span of a few years, the greater shock will come from the unemployment created by slashing military contractor spending and the ensuing layoffs generated in the private defense contractor sector. Of course, our Repugnant friends were ready, willing and even gleeful at the prospects of killing GM, which would have resulted in a best estimate of 3mm jobs lost between GM and its parts suppliers.

  • Anonymous

    Put them to work building windmills, solar panels, electric cars, and upgrading the grid. Problem(s) solved. At least we will be getting more than 30 cents on the dollar back.

  • Anonymous

    dim sum anyone?

  • Anonymous

    dim sum anyone?

  • Anonymous

    dim sum anyone?

  • Anonymous

    Let’s get ready to crumble!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Let’s get ready to crumble!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Let’s get ready to crumble!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I agree. Getting money out of elections would be the first place to start.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. Getting money out of elections would be the first place to start.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. Getting money out of elections would be the first place to start.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with some of what Stockman says but he’s been drinking the libertarian kool-aid for too long in his anti-Keynesianism rant. Since 1980 and Reagan with the “free trade” and “supply side economics” from Milton Freedman playbook has dominated this country… and not Keynesian thought.

    From Economist Thomas Palley’s “The Debt Delusion”:

    Excerpt:

    “America’s economic contradictions are part of a new business cycle that has emerged since 1980. The business cycles of Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush share strong similarities and are different from pre-1980 cycles. The similarities are large trade deficits, manufacturing job loss, asset price inflation, rising debt-to-income ratios, and detachment of wages from productivity growth.

    “The new cycle rests on financial booms and cheap imports. Financial booms provide collateral that supports debt-financed spending. Borrowing is also supported by an easing of credit standards and new financial products that increase leverage and widen the range of assets that can be borrowed against. Cheap imports ameliorate the effects of wage stagnation.

    “This structure contrasts with the pre-1980 business cycle, which rested on wage growth tied to productivity growth and full employment. Wage growth, rather than borrowing and financial booms, fuelled demand growth. That encouraged investment spending, which in turn drove productivity gains and output growth. ”

    The differences between the new and old cycle are starkly revealed in attitudes toward the trade deficit. Previously, trade deficits were viewed as a serious problem, being a leakage of demand that undermined employment and output. Since 1980, trade deficits have been dismissed as the outcome of free-market choices. Moreover, the Federal Reserve has viewed trade deficits as a helpful brake on inflation, while politicians now view them as a way to buy off consumers afflicted by wage stagnation.

    More…

    http://www.thomaspalley.com/?p=99

  • Anonymous

    I agree with some of what Stockman says but he’s been drinking the libertarian kool-aid for too long in his anti-Keynesianism rant. Since 1980 and Reagan with the “free trade” and “supply side economics” from Milton Freedman playbook has dominated this country… and not Keynesian thought.

    From Economist Thomas Palley’s “The Debt Delusion”:

    Excerpt:

    “America’s economic contradictions are part of a new business cycle that has emerged since 1980. The business cycles of Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush share strong similarities and are different from pre-1980 cycles. The similarities are large trade deficits, manufacturing job loss, asset price inflation, rising debt-to-income ratios, and detachment of wages from productivity growth.

    “The new cycle rests on financial booms and cheap imports. Financial booms provide collateral that supports debt-financed spending. Borrowing is also supported by an easing of credit standards and new financial products that increase leverage and widen the range of assets that can be borrowed against. Cheap imports ameliorate the effects of wage stagnation.

    “This structure contrasts with the pre-1980 business cycle, which rested on wage growth tied to productivity growth and full employment. Wage growth, rather than borrowing and financial booms, fuelled demand growth. That encouraged investment spending, which in turn drove productivity gains and output growth. ”

    The differences between the new and old cycle are starkly revealed in attitudes toward the trade deficit. Previously, trade deficits were viewed as a serious problem, being a leakage of demand that undermined employment and output. Since 1980, trade deficits have been dismissed as the outcome of free-market choices. Moreover, the Federal Reserve has viewed trade deficits as a helpful brake on inflation, while politicians now view them as a way to buy off consumers afflicted by wage stagnation.

    More…

    http://www.thomaspalley.com/?p=99

  • Anonymous

    I agree with some of what Stockman says but he’s been drinking the libertarian kool-aid for too long in his anti-Keynesianism rant. Since 1980 and Reagan with the “free trade” and “supply side economics” from Milton Freedman playbook has dominated this country… and not Keynesian thought.

    From Economist Thomas Palley’s “The Debt Delusion”:

    Excerpt:

    “America’s economic contradictions are part of a new business cycle that has emerged since 1980. The business cycles of Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush share strong similarities and are different from pre-1980 cycles. The similarities are large trade deficits, manufacturing job loss, asset price inflation, rising debt-to-income ratios, and detachment of wages from productivity growth.

    “The new cycle rests on financial booms and cheap imports. Financial booms provide collateral that supports debt-financed spending. Borrowing is also supported by an easing of credit standards and new financial products that increase leverage and widen the range of assets that can be borrowed against. Cheap imports ameliorate the effects of wage stagnation.

    “This structure contrasts with the pre-1980 business cycle, which rested on wage growth tied to productivity growth and full employment. Wage growth, rather than borrowing and financial booms, fuelled demand growth. That encouraged investment spending, which in turn drove productivity gains and output growth. ”

    The differences between the new and old cycle are starkly revealed in attitudes toward the trade deficit. Previously, trade deficits were viewed as a serious problem, being a leakage of demand that undermined employment and output. Since 1980, trade deficits have been dismissed as the outcome of free-market choices. Moreover, the Federal Reserve has viewed trade deficits as a helpful brake on inflation, while politicians now view them as a way to buy off consumers afflicted by wage stagnation.

    More…

    http://www.thomaspalley.com/?p=99

  • Anonymous

    I agree with some of what Stockman says but he’s been drinking the libertarian kool-aid for too long in his anti-Keynesianism rant. Since 1980 and Reagan with the “free trade” and “supply side economics” from Milton Freedman playbook has dominated this country… and not Keynesian thought.

    From Economist Thomas Palley’s “The Debt Delusion”:

    Excerpt:

    “America’s economic contradictions are part of a new business cycle that has emerged since 1980. The business cycles of Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush share strong similarities and are different from pre-1980 cycles. The similarities are large trade deficits, manufacturing job loss, asset price inflation, rising debt-to-income ratios, and detachment of wages from productivity growth.

    “The new cycle rests on financial booms and cheap imports. Financial booms provide collateral that supports debt-financed spending. Borrowing is also supported by an easing of credit standards and new financial products that increase leverage and widen the range of assets that can be borrowed against. Cheap imports ameliorate the effects of wage stagnation.

    “This structure contrasts with the pre-1980 business cycle, which rested on wage growth tied to productivity growth and full employment. Wage growth, rather than borrowing and financial booms, fuelled demand growth. That encouraged investment spending, which in turn drove productivity gains and output growth. ”

    The differences between the new and old cycle are starkly revealed in attitudes toward the trade deficit. Previously, trade deficits were viewed as a serious problem, being a leakage of demand that undermined employment and output. Since 1980, trade deficits have been dismissed as the outcome of free-market choices. Moreover, the Federal Reserve has viewed trade deficits as a helpful brake on inflation, while politicians now view them as a way to buy off consumers afflicted by wage stagnation.

    More…

    http://www.thomaspalley.com/?p=99

  • Anonymous

    One down, one to go.

  • Anonymous

    As long as we continue to pass off responsibility for our woes onto partisan presidential administrations, we miss our own culpability. Until We, the People take our country back from the corporate-backed Congress/White House, we deserve the results.

    In a democracy, it supposed to be the will of the people. How do we get from here, to there?

  • Anonymous

    Remember how rapidly domestic factory production changed to producing for the war machine with WW II. -Ford rolled out a B-24 bomber every hour!
    Then, at war’s end, right back to automobiles. It’s certainly doable.

  • Anonymous

    …although “like” is not quite the right term…

  • Anonymous

    “The US is the only country in the world where stupidity and evilness pays handsomely.”

    Oh, so naive.

  • Anonymous

    Currently, our voice is nil. But that can be corrected.

  • http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/01/links-11111.html Links 1/11/11 « naked capitalism

    [...] Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns Raw Story. One thing Stockman misses is the degree to which US military spending goes to contractors located abroad. That means they produce no benefit to the US economy. [...]

  • Anonymous

    It is time for Americans to take back their country from taxpayer-looting multinational corporate welfare recipients.

  • Anonymous

    It is time for Americans to take back their country from taxpayer-looting multinational corporate welfare recipients.

  • Anonymous

    It is time for Americans to take back their country from taxpayer-looting multinational corporate welfare recipients.

  • http://skydancingblog.com/2011/01/11/tuesday-reads-the-anniversary-of-fds-second-bill-of-rights/ Tuesday Reads: The Anniversary of FDR’s Second Bill of Rights « Sky Dancing

    [...] Reagan and Obama and dwindling prospects for the future, I may as well start by offering up this Raw Story interview with Reagan’s Budget Director David Stockman.  His eclectic economic and political [...]

  • Anonymous

    The Power of a Sit down with a Beer and a Remote…

  • Anonymous

    The Power of a Sit down with a Beer and a Remote…

  • Anonymous

    The Power of a Sit down with a Beer and a Remote…

  • Anonymous

    Send them all back to school for an Education?

  • Anonymous

    Send them all back to school for an Education?

  • Anonymous

    Send them all back to school for an Education?

  • Anonymous

    Best and Brightest?

    Lol

    There ain’t ever gonna be hope of improvement then…

    They’ll just destroy the Nation, wholesale…

  • Anonymous

    Best and Brightest?

    Lol

    There ain’t ever gonna be hope of improvement then…

    They’ll just destroy the Nation, wholesale…

  • Anonymous

    Best and Brightest?

    Lol

    There ain’t ever gonna be hope of improvement then…

    They’ll just destroy the Nation, wholesale…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6KCOVUYDUEIKOEOX4UJG2DBUA Rick Reed

    Damn right they did it on purpose. And now this David Stockman is shilling for them again as a Libertarian this time round huh? No money in being a Republican? Guess he needs a job…LIKE MOST AMERICANS. You all better start a garden this spring and take care of yourselves, cause this roller coaster ride is just about done.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6KCOVUYDUEIKOEOX4UJG2DBUA Rick Reed

    Damn right they did it on purpose. And now this David Stockman is shilling for them again as a Libertarian this time round huh? No money in being a Republican? Guess he needs a job…LIKE MOST AMERICANS. You all better start a garden this spring and take care of yourselves, cause this roller coaster ride is just about done.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6KCOVUYDUEIKOEOX4UJG2DBUA Rick Reed

    Damn right they did it on purpose. And now this David Stockman is shilling for them again as a Libertarian this time round huh? No money in being a Republican? Guess he needs a job…LIKE MOST AMERICANS. You all better start a garden this spring and take care of yourselves, cause this roller coaster ride is just about done.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6KCOVUYDUEIKOEOX4UJG2DBUA Rick Reed

    Damn right they did it on purpose. And now this David Stockman is shilling for them again as a Libertarian this time round huh? No money in being a Republican? Guess he needs a job…LIKE MOST AMERICANS. You all better start a garden this spring and take care of yourselves, cause this roller coaster ride is just about done.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6KCOVUYDUEIKOEOX4UJG2DBUA Rick Reed

    Damn right they did it on purpose. And now this David Stockman is shilling for them again as a Libertarian this time round huh? No money in being a Republican? Guess he needs a job…LIKE MOST AMERICANS. You all better start a garden this spring and take care of yourselves, cause this roller coaster ride is just about done.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6KCOVUYDUEIKOEOX4UJG2DBUA Rick Reed

    Damn right they did it on purpose. And now this David Stockman is shilling for them again as a Libertarian this time round huh? No money in being a Republican? Guess he needs a job…LIKE MOST AMERICANS. You all better start a garden this spring and take care of yourselves, cause this roller coaster ride is just about done.

  • http://www.pulpdiddyspermutations.com/?p=560 News Shorts | Pulpdiddy's Place

    [...] An age old complaint – civil servants at work.  But why?  Civil servants have to deal every day with anger coming from countless members of the public who are frustrated with many things, including government bureaucracy.  Public employees are convenient targets because they have a hard time fighting back and no one in Congress wants to champion their cause.  No one, especially the American worker, should be bullied. [i] http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/america-has-reached-the-point-of-no-return-reagan-budget-director… [...]

  • panamarick

    Why would David Stockman publicly admit what so many have known for so long, and even more have denied? Simple. The banks have been robbed, the orphanages burned down and a clean getaway has been made. Now a spokesman for the Hole in the Wallstreet gang has come to tell us (the town) to tighten our belts, work harder to pay for our mistake for listening to the gang in the first place. I mean sure they were in charge, but it’s not the Stockman’s of the world’s fault we are idiots. The brass of these scumbags is endless.

  • panamarick

    Why would David Stockman publicly admit what so many have known for so long, and even more have denied? Simple. The banks have been robbed, the orphanages burned down and a clean getaway has been made. Now a spokesman for the Hole in the Wallstreet gang has come to tell us (the town) to tighten our belts, work harder to pay for our mistake for listening to the gang in the first place. I mean sure they were in charge, but it’s not the Stockman’s of the world’s fault we are idiots. The brass of these scumbags is endless.

  • panamarick

    Why would David Stockman publicly admit what so many have known for so long, and even more have denied? Simple. The banks have been robbed, the orphanages burned down and a clean getaway has been made. Now a spokesman for the Hole in the Wallstreet gang has come to tell us (the town) to tighten our belts, work harder to pay for our mistake for listening to the gang in the first place. I mean sure they were in charge, but it’s not the Stockman’s of the world’s fault we are idiots. The brass of these scumbags is endless.

  • panamarick

    Why would David Stockman publicly admit what so many have known for so long, and even more have denied? Simple. The banks have been robbed, the orphanages burned down and a clean getaway has been made. Now a spokesman for the Hole in the Wallstreet gang has come to tell us (the town) to tighten our belts, work harder to pay for our mistake for listening to the gang in the first place. I mean sure they were in charge, but it’s not the Stockman’s of the world’s fault we are idiots. The brass of these scumbags is endless.

  • panamarick

    Why would David Stockman publicly admit what so many have known for so long, and even more have denied? Simple. The banks have been robbed, the orphanages burned down and a clean getaway has been made. Now a spokesman for the Hole in the Wallstreet gang has come to tell us (the town) to tighten our belts, work harder to pay for our mistake for listening to the gang in the first place. I mean sure they were in charge, but it’s not the Stockman’s of the world’s fault we are idiots. The brass of these scumbags is endless.

  • panamarick

    Why would David Stockman publicly admit what so many have known for so long, and even more have denied? Simple. The banks have been robbed, the orphanages burned down and a clean getaway has been made. Now a spokesman for the Hole in the Wallstreet gang has come to tell us (the town) to tighten our belts, work harder to pay for our mistake for listening to the gang in the first place. I mean sure they were in charge, but it’s not the Stockman’s of the world’s fault we are idiots. The brass of these scumbags is endless.

  • panamarick

    Why would David Stockman publicly admit what so many have known for so long, and even more have denied? Simple. The banks have been robbed, the orphanages burned down and a clean getaway has been made. Now a spokesman for the Hole in the Wallstreet gang has come to tell us (the town) to tighten our belts, work harder to pay for our mistake for listening to the gang in the first place. I mean sure they were in charge, but it’s not the Stockman’s of the world’s fault we are idiots. The brass of these scumbags is endless.

  • panamarick

    Why would David Stockman publicly admit what so many have known for so long, and even more have denied? Simple. The banks have been robbed, the orphanages burned down and a clean getaway has been made. Now a spokesman for the Hole in the Wallstreet gang has come to tell us (the town) to tighten our belts, work harder to pay for our mistake for listening to the gang in the first place. I mean sure they were in charge, but it’s not the Stockman’s of the world’s fault we are idiots. The brass of these scumbags is endless.

  • panamarick

    Why would David Stockman publicly admit what so many have known for so long, and even more have denied? Simple. The banks have been robbed, the orphanages burned down and a clean getaway has been made. Now a spokesman for the Hole in the Wallstreet gang has come to tell us (the town) to tighten our belts, work harder to pay for our mistake for listening to the gang in the first place. I mean sure they were in charge, but it’s not the Stockman’s of the world’s fault we are idiots. The brass of these scumbags is endless.

  • Anonymous

    Politicians of both parties are bought and sold by the military industrial compex, period! They control the game in Washington, D.C. The politicians merely playact for the benefit of the average voter.

  • Anonymous

    Stockman and his president countered the Carter years of 20% interest with massive borrowing and those ever popular tax cuts so here we are. Regan did not defeat the Soviets, economics did and he took the credit. Now following in Soviet footsteps albeit 20 or so years later, America is going to implode as well. America has no manufacturing base other than war material and Boeing. The remains of the flower of the industrial revolution are abandoned and rusting in Michigan, Illinois, Ohio, Indiana and throughout New England.

  • Anonymous

    Stockman and his president countered the Carter years of 20% interest with massive borrowing and those ever popular tax cuts so here we are. Regan did not defeat the Soviets, economics did and he took the credit. Now following in Soviet footsteps albeit 20 or so years later, America is going to implode as well. America has no manufacturing base other than war material and Boeing. The remains of the flower of the industrial revolution are abandoned and rusting in Michigan, Illinois, Ohio, Indiana and throughout New England.

  • Anonymous

    Stockman and his president countered the Carter years of 20% interest with massive borrowing and those ever popular tax cuts so here we are. Regan did not defeat the Soviets, economics did and he took the credit. Now following in Soviet footsteps albeit 20 or so years later, America is going to implode as well. America has no manufacturing base other than war material and Boeing. The remains of the flower of the industrial revolution are abandoned and rusting in Michigan, Illinois, Ohio, Indiana and throughout New England.

  • Anonymous

    Stockman and his president countered the Carter years of 20% interest with massive borrowing and those ever popular tax cuts so here we are. Regan did not defeat the Soviets, economics did and he took the credit. Now following in Soviet footsteps albeit 20 or so years later, America is going to implode as well. America has no manufacturing base other than war material and Boeing. The remains of the flower of the industrial revolution are abandoned and rusting in Michigan, Illinois, Ohio, Indiana and throughout New England.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Americans should have listened to the Supreme Allied Commander, WWII, and the last real Commander in Chief, having gained experience holding both the top military and political jobs the world has ever created, on leaving Office 50 years ago.

    “Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plough shares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defence; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defence establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even SPIRITUAL — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defence with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

    Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

    In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

    Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

    The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

    Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

    It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system — ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    With all the money spent on Defence, Americans are more insecure than ever before and “security” is stifling Freedom.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Americans should have listened to the Supreme Allied Commander, WWII, and the last real Commander in Chief, having gained experience holding both the top military and political jobs the world has ever created, on leaving Office 50 years ago.

    “Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plough shares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defence; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defence establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even SPIRITUAL — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defence with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

    Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

    In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

    Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

    The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

    Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

    It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system — ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    With all the money spent on Defence, Americans are more insecure than ever before and “security” is stifling Freedom.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Americans should have listened to the Supreme Allied Commander, WWII, and the last real Commander in Chief, having gained experience holding both the top military and political jobs the world has ever created, on leaving Office 50 years ago.

    “Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plough shares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defence; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defence establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even SPIRITUAL — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defence with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

    Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

    In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

    Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

    The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

    Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

    It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system — ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    With all the money spent on Defence, Americans are more insecure than ever before and “security” is stifling Freedom.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Americans should have listened to the Supreme Allied Commander, WWII, and the last real Commander in Chief, having gained experience holding both the top military and political jobs the world has ever created, on leaving Office 50 years ago.

    “Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plough shares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defence; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defence establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even SPIRITUAL — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defence with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

    Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

    In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

    Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

    The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

    Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

    It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system — ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    With all the money spent on Defence, Americans are more insecure than ever before and “security” is stifling Freedom.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Americans should have listened to the Supreme Allied Commander, WWII, and the last real Commander in Chief, having gained experience holding both the top military and political jobs the world has ever created, on leaving Office 50 years ago.

    “Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plough shares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defence; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defence establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even SPIRITUAL — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defence with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

    Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

    In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

    Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

    The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

    Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

    It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system — ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    With all the money spent on Defence, Americans are more insecure than ever before and “security” is stifling Freedom.

  • Anonymous

    military spending: 5.4 percent of GDP
    health care spending 17 percent of GDP
    add in the rest or our expenses and there’s not enough left for groceries.

  • Anonymous

    military spending: 5.4 percent of GDP
    health care spending 17 percent of GDP
    add in the rest or our expenses and there’s not enough left for groceries.

  • Anonymous

    military spending: 5.4 percent of GDP
    health care spending 17 percent of GDP
    add in the rest or our expenses and there’s not enough left for groceries.

  • Anonymous

    military spending: 5.4 percent of GDP
    health care spending 17 percent of GDP
    add in the rest or our expenses and there’s not enough left for groceries.

  • Anonymous

    military spending: 5.4 percent of GDP
    health care spending 17 percent of GDP
    add in the rest or our expenses and there’s not enough left for groceries.

  • Anonymous

    military spending: 5.4 percent of GDP
    health care spending 17 percent of GDP
    add in the rest or our expenses and there’s not enough left for groceries.

  • Anonymous

    military spending: 5.4 percent of GDP
    health care spending 17 percent of GDP
    add in the rest or our expenses and there’s not enough left for groceries.

  • Anonymous

    military spending: 5.4 percent of GDP
    health care spending 17 percent of GDP
    add in the rest or our expenses and there’s not enough left for groceries.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The struggles we see happening in America Today are not new. The debate has been raging for 115 years, and even longer. The following excerpts come from the speech by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896. He dismissed trickle down economics then.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defence of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KSIB2PGTAXFCPCMQ74NRZ4UUJM Beerman

    eh, don’t forget Big Pharma, Insurance, Wall Street/bankers, Big Oil and Big Ag

  • Anonymous

    No shit. Hire people to dig a hole today and pay to cover it tomorrow. Money in the hands of the people.

  • Anonymous

    No shit. Hire people to dig a hole today and pay to cover it tomorrow. Money in the hands of the people.

  • Anonymous

    ….and water pipes.

  • Anonymous

    ….and water pipes.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t let your tongue in cheek poke a hole in it.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t let your tongue in cheek poke a hole in it.

  • Anonymous

    Koch Brothers trolling money.

  • Anonymous

    Koch Brothers trolling money.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Beating people over the head with democracy-capitalist bully clubs is the “old” school way. Now your capitalist-commie-chinese tories are using it to beat us. The corrupt “money” system is letting the tories use the “two santa claus theory”: borrow from the chinese.

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • DesertSun59

    “The Cold War is long over,” he continued. “The wars of occupation are almost over and were complete failures — Afghanistan and Iraq. The American empire is done.

    Someone from the Reagan days said this? Why does it take so long for them to see reality?

  • Anonymous

    Nothing will change. The people making the money are the people in power, their only will to change is out of the goodness of their hearts or the people coming together and decrying their actions. The tea party started in all good sense to do this, before it was co-opted by the Republicans and Big Money. I saw last night on John King USA someone decry that we are turning into socialist Europe and it had to stop! Why? Do you noticed what happened a few months ago in France when they tried to go after the transportation unions? The entire country flipped out and locked down everything, even people that had no connections with TUE sat down on the job. We have attacked union here to make them seem evil and sloth like.

    It’s quite obvious who the gov’t works for now. It’s no longer the people, its the 20% with 80% of the wealth. We redraw district lines to favor 90% of the elected vote in them. People have no fear. They don’t worry, “Hey man if I vote for this I am going to lose my job, sorry I can’t support more oil subs.” They vote how they wish and laugh in the face of those that get outraged. The masses in their districts wont be outraged their to busy making people on MTV rich or shoveling fast food into their face to worry about what’s going on in Washington.

  • http://newdealdem.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/where-we-should-be-looking-to-cut-the-budget/ Where we should be looking to cut the budget « New Deal Democrat

    [...] Defense. (Stockman has some interesting ideas but I disagree with him about Keynesianism). The Obama [...]

  • http://obama14.com/links-11111.html Links 1/11/11 | Obama 14

    [...] Exclusive: America has ‘reached a indicate of no return,’ Reagan bill executive warns Raw Story. One thing Stockman misses is a grade to which US troops spending goes to contractors located abroad. That equates to they furnish no good to a US economy. [...]

  • Anonymous

    The kicker is that the number one consumer of oil on the planet is the US military, I have read. So that just takes things to an even more absurd “we have to destroy the oil in order to save it” level.

  • Anonymous

    The kicker is that the number one consumer of oil on the planet is the US military, I have read. So that just takes things to an even more absurd “we have to destroy the oil in order to save it” level.

  • http://ingaza.wordpress.com/ the dissenter

    No doubt, you have the answer.

  • http://ingaza.wordpress.com/ the dissenter

    No doubt, you have the answer.

  • http://ingaza.wordpress.com/ the dissenter

    No doubt, you have the answer.

  • Anonymous

    While I appreciate the article, this is very old news, although it might actually be considered news as Stockman is the one saying it.

    Since they relocated the production assets of America offshore, and have done the same with the capital assets, the Fantasy Finance Sector which constitutes the majority of the American GDP, but only employs approximately 7.4 percent of the workforce (and who’s to say how many of that 7.4 percent actually is comprised of American workers?) , is the only sector making money, but is also the non-producing parasite which has destroyed, after first dismantling and cannibalizing, the American economy.

    They have done the same to various other countries, while misleading the simple-minded into thinking they were “protecting America’s interests” while in reality only working on behalf of the transnational class, or plutocrats, if you prefer, who are noting more than debt-financed billionaires (and now a few trillionaires as well).

    There is only remedy to the present situation.

  • Anonymous

    While I appreciate the article, this is very old news, although it might actually be considered news as Stockman is the one saying it.

    Since they relocated the production assets of America offshore, and have done the same with the capital assets, the Fantasy Finance Sector which constitutes the majority of the American GDP, but only employs approximately 7.4 percent of the workforce (and who’s to say how many of that 7.4 percent actually is comprised of American workers?) , is the only sector making money, but is also the non-producing parasite which has destroyed, after first dismantling and cannibalizing, the American economy.

    They have done the same to various other countries, while misleading the simple-minded into thinking they were “protecting America’s interests” while in reality only working on behalf of the transnational class, or plutocrats, if you prefer, who are noting more than debt-financed billionaires (and now a few trillionaires as well).

    There is only remedy to the present situation.

  • Anonymous

    They will rule an ash pit.

  • Anonymous

    If you want to promote your blog, please contact Raw Story’s advertising dept. If you continue to post to promote your blog, your posts will be considered spam and your account will be blocked. Thanks, Raw moderators

  • Anonymous

    If you want to promote your blog, please contact Raw Story’s advertising dept. If you continue to post to promote your blog, your posts will be considered spam and your account will be blocked. Thanks, Raw moderators

  • Anonymous

    If you want to promote your blog, please contact Raw Story’s advertising dept. If you continue to post to promote your blog, your posts will be considered spam and your account will be blocked. Thanks, Raw moderators

  • Anonymous

    If you want to promote your blog, please contact Raw Story’s advertising dept. If you continue to post to promote your blog, your posts will be considered spam and your account will be blocked. Thanks, Raw moderators

  • http://noisyroom.net/blog/2011/01/11/financial-news-update-11111/ » Financial News Update – 1/11/11 NoisyRoom.net: The Progressive Hunter

    [...] Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns (Hat Tip: Brian B.) [...]

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Few people remember (or are old enough to) that Stockman committed heresy by opposing Reagan’s tax cuts and forecasting “$200b deficits as far as the eye can see.” (sounds quaint now, doesn’t it?) When the American Empire finally crumbles to the ash heap of history, I predict a Stockman run for president. I’ll vote for him.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, keep dreaming buddy. It’s all about global control of resources. Who’s going to stop the US? I guess time will tell who is right here.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Nothing will change. No better case for this is made than in Stockman’s classic “The Triumph of Politics.” He came to Washington a fresh-faced libertarian crusader, and left thoroughly beaten and humiliated. He was even hated by “conservatives” and libertarians for opposing tax cuts, but his rationale was, “The voters want more government. At least they should pay for it with their own money, not their grandchildrens’.”

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • http://www.photonsoflight.com photonsoflight

    What will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • Cookie Fox

    This would be too little too late, besides trying to make legitimate cuts in a economy that is based on fraud and drugs is just absurd. To anyone who believes that radical cuts to the military is going to save America I have to disappoint you. Its too late.

    Until you change how money works you change nothing!

  • http://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=11970 Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | Sovereign Independent

    [...] Rawstory [...]

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    By jingies, it started with Woodrow Wilson, I tell ya. I can’t believe I voted for that lunatic!

  • http://newswires-americas.com/markettalk/?p=14844 Market Talk » Blog Archive » ‘We’re Just at the Beginning’

    [...] crisis the U.S. is setting itself up for if it doesn’t change its ways. Still, he makes some very good points in an interview with Raw Story, at the same time saying we need to shrink the military, and lamenting that even with a purportedly [...]

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Government always works for the people. Well, certain people. And you and I are likely not among them. That’s the nature of the beast. It’s been too long since I drank the “libertarian coolaid,” so I’ll probably go to my grave believing that “gov’t is the problem, not the solution,” as Reagan used to say. But Reagan ultimately proved P.J. O’Rourke correct: “Republicans run on the idea that government doesn’t work. Then they get elected and PROVE IT.”

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    Government always works for the people. Well, certain people. And you and I are likely not among them. That’s the nature of the beast. It’s been too long since I drank the “libertarian coolaid,” so I’ll probably go to my grave believing that “gov’t is the problem, not the solution,” as Reagan used to say. But Reagan ultimately proved P.J. O’Rourke correct: “Republicans run on the idea that government doesn’t work. Then they get elected and PROVE IT.”

  • Anonymous

    Military Keynesianism is one notion frequently used by the GOP to justify spending while pretending to be doing otherwise. Real Keynesian expenditures generate additional wealth because they are investments in infrastructure that aid productivity, like roads, bridges, fiber optic backbones and the like. GOP Military Keynesianism is nothing but an investment in destruction, a double wealth destroying system, because you are spending money on materials used to destroy wealth. That’s why he was Reagan’s boy and why he has to “refudiate” the Great Communicator now.

  • Anonymous

    Military Keynesianism is one notion frequently used by the GOP to justify spending while pretending to be doing otherwise. Real Keynesian expenditures generate additional wealth because they are investments in infrastructure that aid productivity, like roads, bridges, fiber optic backbones and the like. GOP Military Keynesianism is nothing but an investment in destruction, a double wealth destroying system, because you are spending money on materials used to destroy wealth. That’s why he was Reagan’s boy and why he has to “refudiate” the Great Communicator now.

  • Anonymous

    Military Keynesianism is one notion frequently used by the GOP to justify spending while pretending to be doing otherwise. Real Keynesian expenditures generate additional wealth because they are investments in infrastructure that aid productivity, like roads, bridges, fiber optic backbones and the like. GOP Military Keynesianism is nothing but an investment in destruction, a double wealth destroying system, because you are spending money on materials used to destroy wealth. That’s why he was Reagan’s boy and why he has to “refudiate” the Great Communicator now.

  • Anonymous

    Military Keynesianism is one notion frequently used by the GOP to justify spending while pretending to be doing otherwise. Real Keynesian expenditures generate additional wealth because they are investments in infrastructure that aid productivity, like roads, bridges, fiber optic backbones and the like. GOP Military Keynesianism is nothing but an investment in destruction, a double wealth destroying system, because you are spending money on materials used to destroy wealth. That’s why he was Reagan’s boy and why he has to “refudiate” the Great Communicator now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    As I read the article and all these comments, and many other news media, I read them as expressing these same ideas in other words.

    And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
    And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    For ALL NATIONS have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
    And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.
    For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
    Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she has filled fill to her double.
    How much she has glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she says in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
    Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judges her.
    And the kings of the earth, (Pope, Presidents, Prime Ministers, CEOs, the very rich) who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
    Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is your judgment come. (9/11)
    And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buys their merchandise any more:
    The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
    And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. (It’s the Economy, Stupid! as the saying goes)

    Brackets are my interpretation as I see it.

    On September 13, 1976, page 3A, with the header, ´Prophet Chooses Park For Vigil´ The Kansas City Times recorded and reported on my visit to the City and the Republican National Convention. They report, in addition to other specifics, I was serving notice The Writing is on the Wall.

    “He came to town for the Republican National Convention and will stay until the election in November to do God’s bidding: To tell the world, from Kansas City, that this Country has been found wanting and it’s days are numbered”…………………………He gestured toward a gleaming church dome. “The gold dome is the symbol of Babylon,” he said. It’s taken 35 years for the world to finally see it as it’s happening.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-65703

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    As I read the article and all these comments, and many other news media, I read them as expressing these same ideas in other words.

    And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
    And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    For ALL NATIONS have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
    And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.
    For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
    Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she has filled fill to her double.
    How much she has glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she says in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
    Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judges her.
    And the kings of the earth, (Pope, Presidents, Prime Ministers, CEOs, the very rich) who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
    Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is your judgment come. (9/11)
    And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buys their merchandise any more:
    The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
    And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. (It’s the Economy, Stupid! as the saying goes)

    Brackets are my interpretation as I see it.

    On September 13, 1976, page 3A, with the header, ´Prophet Chooses Park For Vigil´ The Kansas City Times recorded and reported on my visit to the City and the Republican National Convention. They report, in addition to other specifics, I was serving notice The Writing is on the Wall.

    “He came to town for the Republican National Convention and will stay until the election in November to do God’s bidding: To tell the world, from Kansas City, that this Country has been found wanting and it’s days are numbered”…………………………He gestured toward a gleaming church dome. “The gold dome is the symbol of Babylon,” he said. It’s taken 35 years for the world to finally see it as it’s happening.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-65703

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    As I read the article and all these comments, and many other news media, I read them as expressing these same ideas in other words.

    And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
    And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    For ALL NATIONS have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
    And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.
    For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
    Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she has filled fill to her double.
    How much she has glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she says in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
    Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judges her.
    And the kings of the earth, (Pope, Presidents, Prime Ministers, CEOs, the very rich) who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
    Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is your judgment come. (9/11)
    And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buys their merchandise any more:
    The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
    And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. (It’s the Economy, Stupid! as the saying goes)

    Brackets are my interpretation as I see it.

    On September 13, 1976, page 3A, with the header, ´Prophet Chooses Park For Vigil´ The Kansas City Times recorded and reported on my visit to the City and the Republican National Convention. They report, in addition to other specifics, I was serving notice The Writing is on the Wall.

    “He came to town for the Republican National Convention and will stay until the election in November to do God’s bidding: To tell the world, from Kansas City, that this Country has been found wanting and it’s days are numbered”…………………………He gestured toward a gleaming church dome. “The gold dome is the symbol of Babylon,” he said. It’s taken 35 years for the world to finally see it as it’s happening.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-65703

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    As I read the article and all these comments, and many other news media, I read them as expressing these same ideas in other words.

    And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
    And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    For ALL NATIONS have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
    And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.
    For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
    Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she has filled fill to her double.
    How much she has glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she says in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
    Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judges her.
    And the kings of the earth, (Pope, Presidents, Prime Ministers, CEOs, the very rich) who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
    Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is your judgment come. (9/11)
    And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buys their merchandise any more:
    The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
    And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. (It’s the Economy, Stupid! as the saying goes)

    Brackets are my interpretation as I see it.

    On September 13, 1976, page 3A, with the header, ´Prophet Chooses Park For Vigil´ The Kansas City Times recorded and reported on my visit to the City and the Republican National Convention. They report, in addition to other specifics, I was serving notice The Writing is on the Wall.

    “He came to town for the Republican National Convention and will stay until the election in November to do God’s bidding: To tell the world, from Kansas City, that this Country has been found wanting and it’s days are numbered”…………………………He gestured toward a gleaming church dome. “The gold dome is the symbol of Babylon,” he said. It’s taken 35 years for the world to finally see it as it’s happening.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-65703

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    “Double-wealth destroying system.” Well put. Your comments are beyond “refudiation,” but I still believe that a free society that is capable of constructing skyscrapers, 747s and video ipods is also capable of building roads, bridges, etc. We’ll never know, because the government has a monopoly on these. But I’m not sure they’re doing a bang-up job on roads and bridges, unless they’re in the district of an influential congressperson.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    “Double-wealth destroying system.” Well put. Your comments are beyond “refudiation,” but I still believe that a free society that is capable of constructing skyscrapers, 747s and video ipods is also capable of building roads, bridges, etc. We’ll never know, because the government has a monopoly on these. But I’m not sure they’re doing a bang-up job on roads and bridges, unless they’re in the district of an influential congressperson.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    “Double-wealth destroying system.” Well put. Your comments are beyond “refudiation,” but I still believe that a free society that is capable of constructing skyscrapers, 747s and video ipods is also capable of building roads, bridges, etc. We’ll never know, because the government has a monopoly on these. But I’m not sure they’re doing a bang-up job on roads and bridges, unless they’re in the district of an influential congressperson.

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    “Double-wealth destroying system.” Well put. Your comments are beyond “refudiation,” but I still believe that a free society that is capable of constructing skyscrapers, 747s and video ipods is also capable of building roads, bridges, etc. We’ll never know, because the government has a monopoly on these. But I’m not sure they’re doing a bang-up job on roads and bridges, unless they’re in the district of an influential congressperson.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    What is more important? Labour or Money? Does Money create Labour or does Labour create Money?

  • http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/politics-religion-global-warming/111461-stockman-says-weve-reached-point-no-return.html#post2090754 Stockman says we’ve reached the point of no return – CycloneFanatic

    [...] marginal productivity of debt, which is something I've been talking about. Is Congress listening? Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | … "If we see what's going on carefully, we've reached the final unmasking of the Keynesian [...]

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U4CB4JMBKUBO6NL2RNREZDZUEA Freeky_Fried_Chicken

    USA is an empire deserving of collapse.

    Propped up by an MIC boot on the throats of the rest of the world, spoiled Amerikans have enjoyed an artificially-high standard of living long enough.

    Time for this Chinese colony’s comeuppance.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U4CB4JMBKUBO6NL2RNREZDZUEA Freeky_Fried_Chicken

    USA is an empire deserving of collapse.

    Propped up by an MIC boot on the throats of the rest of the world, spoiled Amerikans have enjoyed an artificially-high standard of living long enough.

    Time for this Chinese colony’s comeuppance.

  • http://iquestionauthority.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/reagan-budget-directorthe-american-empire-is-done/ Reagan Budget Director:The American Empire is Done. « iQuestionAuthority.com

    [...] Reagan Budget Director:The American Empire is Done. Posted: January 11, 2011 by Di553NTR in TheBlog Tags: Afghanistan WAR, Big Brother, Big Government, Big Oil, Big Pharma, CIA, Civil Rights, Congress, Conspiracy, Criminals, Economy, Elite, End The Fed, False Flag, FBI, Infowars.com, IRAQ WAR, Justice, NWO, Obama, PrisonPlanet.com, Propaganda, Revolution, SHEEP, Sleeping Giant, US Military, War Criminals 0 Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns [...]

  • Anonymous

    Keynesian economics is based on John Maynard Keynes’s recognition of the fact that — contrary to the previously-held economic view — human beings don’t always act in their own rational self-interest, and that includes their economic actions. Sometimes, Keynes realized, some (even many!) human beings act out of feelings of competitiveness, greed, anger, feelings of deprivation (both real and imagined), and even out of feelings that have nothing at all to do with the real economic issues at hand (various kinds of non-economic jealousy, for example). The large part of the American public (though probably not a true majority of that public) that is now usually identified as “Republicans” or “Republican supporters” apparently (“apparently” should be underlined) believes that Keynes was wrong about this, and therefore feels that the clock of economic theory should be turned back about 250 years (about 8 human generations), apparently (again “apparently” should be underlined) because the Republican Party, and its various spokespersons, have convinced this large part of the American public that responsibility for their lives and well-being should be turned over to a very small minority of the American population who are distinguished only by the fact that they are extremely wealthy; and, further, that this small extremely wealthy minority will take even better care of the rest of the American public if that small minority is made even wealthier by government action. That point of view is the precise opposite of Keynes’s point of view.
    It’s easy to imagine that people who are part of the that small extremely-rich minority might (some of them, anyway) welcome and support the Republican or Republican-supporter point-of-view and government strategy outlined above. The only suggestion I’ve heard made about why people who are NOT part of that extremely-wealthy minority might support such a point-of-view and strategy is this one: that such non-extremely-wealthy supporters like to imagine that someday they will be extremely wealthy themselves. That is not, though, likely to ever become the case, because there isn’t enough wealth in the world for all those people to be extremely wealthy. The only other reason for their support that I can think of (aside from the distinct possibility that they have been scared entirely out of their wits by a world situation that has been manipulated into absurdity) is that they are people who, as children, perceived their parents as being both extremely wealthy and entirely competent to take care of them (which is probably how most children perceive their parents at some point). That old childhood perception, COMBINED with the fact of being scared out of their wits, could make it almost inevitable that they would support the Republican (maybe we should say: neo-Republican) policies of the past 30 years or more, policies formed by Republican Party “leaders” who show an astonishing disrespect for the intelligence of the American people … although it’s a disrespect which the vast power of a ruling party in an industrial state that ceases to be a true democracy can turn into a self-fulfilling misapprehension.
    But I suspect that you may well know all this, and are only a little uninformed about what John Maynard Keynes’s position — and thus actual Keynsian economic policy — was/is. I hope you won’t mind a well-intentioned suggestion, which is that you read either (or both) of two books: _An Economic Journey Through Time_; or _A Life in Our Times_, both by the late distinguished — and staunchly capitalistic — economist (and former Ambassador to India; former head of the WWII U.S. Office of Price Stabilization; novelist; etc. etc.), John Kenneth Galbraith. Galbraith’s last book, finished in the final year of his long life, a few years ago, is a slim, very concise and to-the-point volume that’s also well-worth reading. That book is called _The Politics of Innocent Fraud_.

  • Anonymous

    The government has betrayed us by eliminating the few protections that workers had that worked as a equalizer for trade between nations of different wage levels… such as tariffs which provided a significant portion of the budget. The elimination of tariffs gave us cheep goods that offset stagnant wages but it also allowed corporations to pocket the money that would otherwise go to the government to benefit our common wealth.
    I do agree with you about the bankers in that the economic parasites must be removed from our economic ecosystem. For us to succeed we need to finance and manufacture at the local level and have an acute awareness of the corporations and politicians that do not have a good social policy.

  • Anonymous

    Both of those high numbers are the result of failures of leadership and poor choices.

  • Anonymous

    Both of those high numbers are the result of failures of leadership and poor choices.

  • Anonymous

    Both of those high numbers are the result of failures of leadership and poor choices.

  • Anonymous

    Both of those high numbers are the result of failures of leadership and poor choices.

  • Anonymous

    Both of those high numbers are the result of failures of leadership and poor choices.

  • Anonymous

    Both of those high numbers are the result of failures of leadership and poor choices.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Totally insolvent nation. The states are bankrupt, the citizens are in debt up to their ears with few jobs and no savings. Add it up people and think about how the Establishment Right and Establishment Left delivered us into this disaster.

  • Anonymous

    HA!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Ahhh! The more spicy and tender, in chef’s special sauce.

  • Jaimie11

    That capitalist-commie business is what the government YOU love so much is up to. Yeah, that government you rail against in your love/hate rituals, yet want it to manage your entire life, birth to grave. That government is the one I find criminal and rogue. It ain’t mine old boy.

  • Jaimie11

    That capitalist-commie business is what the government YOU love so much is up to. Yeah, that government you rail against in your love/hate rituals, yet want it to manage your entire life, birth to grave. That government is the one I find criminal and rogue. It ain’t mine old boy.

  • Jaimie11

    That capitalist-commie business is what the government YOU love so much is up to. Yeah, that government you rail against in your love/hate rituals, yet want it to manage your entire life, birth to grave. That government is the one I find criminal and rogue. It ain’t mine old boy.

  • Jaimie11

    That capitalist-commie business is what the government YOU love so much is up to. Yeah, that government you rail against in your love/hate rituals, yet want it to manage your entire life, birth to grave. That government is the one I find criminal and rogue. It ain’t mine old boy.

  • Jaimie11

    That capitalist-commie business is what the government YOU love so much is up to. Yeah, that government you rail against in your love/hate rituals, yet want it to manage your entire life, birth to grave. That government is the one I find criminal and rogue. It ain’t mine old boy.

  • Jaimie11

    That capitalist-commie business is what the government YOU love so much is up to. Yeah, that government you rail against in your love/hate rituals, yet want it to manage your entire life, birth to grave. That government is the one I find criminal and rogue. It ain’t mine old boy.

  • oddjob

    I’m old enough. I was 20 in 1980.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GLTFZRXXL6YY63FFOKSYUQIOPI Yahoo User

    I think I read this in a Michael Nystrom column. “The only source of wealth is human labor” and I believe this. That’s the reason slavery is so popular.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GLTFZRXXL6YY63FFOKSYUQIOPI Yahoo User

    I think I read this in a Michael Nystrom column. “The only source of wealth is human labor” and I believe this. That’s the reason slavery is so popular.

  • http://109bc.wordpress.com/2011/01/12/america-has-reached-the-point-of-no-return/ America ‘Has reached the point of no return’ « 109 BC news

    [...] America ‘Has reached the point of no return’ Filed under: Uncategorized — 109bc @ 3:27 am Reagan budget director warns – [...]

  • http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/america-is-at-the-point-of-no-return/ America is at the point of no return? « Locust blog

    [...] what David Stockman, Reagan’s budget director says. And he’s far from the only one saying it. Back when Reagan the “conservative” started running [...]

  • Anonymous

    The reality is most, if not all, of the politicians that got use in this mess are millionaires who are well insulated from the disaster they have created. Shame on both political parties for their traitorous behavior that got us into this mess and now they won’t man-up to fix what they have broken.

  • Anonymous

    The reality is most, if not all, of the politicians that got use in this mess are millionaires who are well insulated from the disaster they have created. Shame on both political parties for their traitorous behavior that got us into this mess and now they won’t man-up to fix what they have broken.

  • Anonymous

    The reality is most, if not all, of the politicians that got use in this mess are millionaires who are well insulated from the disaster they have created. Shame on both political parties for their traitorous behavior that got us into this mess and now they won’t man-up to fix what they have broken.

  • Anonymous

    The reality is most, if not all, of the politicians that got use in this mess are millionaires who are well insulated from the disaster they have created. Shame on both political parties for their traitorous behavior that got us into this mess and now they won’t man-up to fix what they have broken.

  • Anonymous

    The reality is most, if not all, of the politicians that got use in this mess are millionaires who are well insulated from the disaster they have created. Shame on both political parties for their traitorous behavior that got us into this mess and now they won’t man-up to fix what they have broken.

  • Anonymous

    The reality is most, if not all, of the politicians that got use in this mess are millionaires who are well insulated from the disaster they have created. Shame on both political parties for their traitorous behavior that got us into this mess and now they won’t man-up to fix what they have broken.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    or minimum wage

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • Anonymous

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    The following link takes you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the
    Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    What was needed has come and gone. That was to NOT bail out the “too big to fails”. The congress should have pressed the issue of a complete investigation of these banks that caused these problems. But the Too Big to Fails are set to get bigger as the “healthy” smaller banks are now beginning to feel the pinch (perhaps this was part of the larger plan?).

    Obama appoints Sperling, a JP Morgan insider, to replace Summers. It will only get worse.

    Not long after the 2008 crisis, Mother Jones published a good article on the many different programs the banks received (at the expense of taxpayers). It adds up to trillions. The recent QE2 has already been invested…..overseas (apparently 600Billion worth of our money).

    While the criminals get richer and NEVER get justice served to them, people like me can’t even find a job and there is NO help whatsoever for people in my shoes. I may get a job tomorrow but its only 16 hours a week (better than nothing).

    It is terrible what they did to our nation, and I am sorry if I sound like a “conspiracy nut” but THIS was a conspiracy. NOBODY can convince me that these people did not know what they were doing.

    They are driving the U.S. into the ditch while they are pumping up Asia as the new “darling consumer societies”.

    I don’t know why people think OBomb’em is a socialist, because if anything he is very right wing. Even the few morsels they have thrown to the masses usually have a hitch to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    one more thing.

    They KNOW that the military spending will be the finishing touch to our destroyed economy, but they keep doing it anyway.

    It’s getting to be a no-brainer to figure out that the American people are Target Number 2, after the Muslims in the M.E.

    Most the nations on their target lists do not have the Usury banking systems of the West.

    I really don’t think this has ever been about Oil or terrorism. Its about paving the way for the Western International banking cartel to subdue and enslave those populations to THEIR usury system.

    The West’s banking Usury system has brought great wealth to many, but as we are now finding out, this kind of system is unsustainable for Democratic societies. It is a pyramid scheme that eventually collapses. You cannot create money out of thin air (causing steady inflation) without consequences down the road.

    Well, we are down the road now. And the Parasitic classes that run these scams, have completely looted the nation and have deposited the REAL wealth (that of the productive working classes) overseas.

    Meanwhile, the rest of us are left holding the bag.

    Please investigate Iceland. They refused to bail out their banks, and are now in an economic recovery.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    one more thing.

    They KNOW that the military spending will be the finishing touch to our destroyed economy, but they keep doing it anyway.

    It’s getting to be a no-brainer to figure out that the American people are Target Number 2, after the Muslims in the M.E.

    Most the nations on their target lists do not have the Usury banking systems of the West.

    I really don’t think this has ever been about Oil or terrorism. Its about paving the way for the Western International banking cartel to subdue and enslave those populations to THEIR usury system.

    The West’s banking Usury system has brought great wealth to many, but as we are now finding out, this kind of system is unsustainable for Democratic societies. It is a pyramid scheme that eventually collapses. You cannot create money out of thin air (causing steady inflation) without consequences down the road.

    Well, we are down the road now. And the Parasitic classes that run these scams, have completely looted the nation and have deposited the REAL wealth (that of the productive working classes) overseas.

    Meanwhile, the rest of us are left holding the bag.

    Please investigate Iceland. They refused to bail out their banks, and are now in an economic recovery.

  • hourglass1

    “America has become nothing more than the whore of a murderous, larcenous, torturing, oligarchy that worships at the feet of greed – a greed for profits so rapacious that it will consume both the whorehouse and its silent, compliant subjects.” – L. Wm. Finley

  • hourglass1

    “America has become nothing more than the whore of a murderous, larcenous, torturing, oligarchy that worships at the feet of greed – a greed for profits so rapacious that it will consume both the whorehouse and its silent, compliant subjects.” – L. Wm. Finley

  • hourglass1

    “America has become nothing more than the whore of a murderous, larcenous, torturing, oligarchy that worships at the feet of greed – a greed for profits so rapacious that it will consume both the whorehouse and its silent, compliant subjects.” – L. Wm. Finley

  • hourglass1

    “America has become nothing more than the whore of a murderous, larcenous, torturing, oligarchy that worships at the feet of greed – a greed for profits so rapacious that it will consume both the whorehouse and its silent, compliant subjects.” – L. Wm. Finley

  • Cookie Fox

    Labour is money, given energy – and we’re running out of energy. This means less work being done and most importantly, less food being grown.

    Forget the US budget or the US government. What you need to keep your eye on is local food production. Food that is grown where you live!

  • Cookie Fox

    Labour is money, given energy – and we’re running out of energy. This means less work being done and most importantly, less food being grown.

    Forget the US budget or the US government. What you need to keep your eye on is local food production. Food that is grown where you live!

  • Cookie Fox

    Labour is money, given energy – and we’re running out of energy. This means less work being done and most importantly, less food being grown.

    Forget the US budget or the US government. What you need to keep your eye on is local food production. Food that is grown where you live!

  • Cookie Fox

    Labour is money, given energy – and we’re running out of energy. This means less work being done and most importantly, less food being grown.

    Forget the US budget or the US government. What you need to keep your eye on is local food production. Food that is grown where you live!

  • Cookie Fox

    Labour is money, given energy – and we’re running out of energy. This means less work being done and most importantly, less food being grown.

    Forget the US budget or the US government. What you need to keep your eye on is local food production. Food that is grown where you live!

  • Cookie Fox

    Labour is money, given energy – and we’re running out of energy. This means less work being done and most importantly, less food being grown.

    Forget the US budget or the US government. What you need to keep your eye on is local food production. Food that is grown where you live!

  • Cookie Fox

    Labour is money, given energy – and we’re running out of energy. This means less work being done and most importantly, less food being grown.

    Forget the US budget or the US government. What you need to keep your eye on is local food production. Food that is grown where you live!

  • Cookie Fox

    Labour is money, given energy – and we’re running out of energy. This means less work being done and most importantly, less food being grown.

    Forget the US budget or the US government. What you need to keep your eye on is local food production. Food that is grown where you live!

  • Cookie Fox

    Labour is money, given energy – and we’re running out of energy. This means less work being done and most importantly, less food being grown.

    Forget the US budget or the US government. What you need to keep your eye on is local food production. Food that is grown where you live!

  • http://agthoughts.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/news1/ Hello world! « Ag Thoughts
  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand, our tax base is clearly shrinking but yet our military keeps spending more and more,wtf????

  • Anonymous

    ok we can stop the timer, its official, republicans brains run exactly 30 years slower

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The hope is people can change their minds and point of view.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The hope is people can change their minds and point of view.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The hope is people can change their minds and point of view.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Does the recent Supreme Court decision recognizing Corporations as people, and allowing them to spend as much money as they want in advertising for their favoured or bought candidates during election campaigns, help in electing government of the people, by the people, for the people?

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Does the recent Supreme Court decision recognizing Corporations as people, and allowing them to spend as much money as they want in advertising for their favoured or bought candidates during election campaigns, help in electing government of the people, by the people, for the people?

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Does the recent Supreme Court decision recognizing Corporations as people, and allowing them to spend as much money as they want in advertising for their favoured or bought candidates during election campaigns, help in electing government of the people, by the people, for the people?

  • Anonymous

    Of course, health care is half that in western democracies without our messed up system and our military spending was controlled for eight years by the VP of the United States who enriched a company he had a personal stake in, not to mention all the others with their fingers in the pie.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, health care is half that in western democracies without our messed up system and our military spending was controlled for eight years by the VP of the United States who enriched a company he had a personal stake in, not to mention all the others with their fingers in the pie.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, health care is half that in western democracies without our messed up system and our military spending was controlled for eight years by the VP of the United States who enriched a company he had a personal stake in, not to mention all the others with their fingers in the pie.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, health care is half that in western democracies without our messed up system and our military spending was controlled for eight years by the VP of the United States who enriched a company he had a personal stake in, not to mention all the others with their fingers in the pie.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Esau is the son of Issac, brother of Jacob-Israel. Esau and Jacob were twin brothers but Esau came out 1st, and by the rules at the time, being first born, he was destined to inherit everything. The Book describes Esau as a hairy man and a hunter while Jacob-Israel was a smooth man and a shepherd.

    The story goes as a young man, Esau came back from the hunt empty handed and was very hungry. He went to Jacob-Israel wanting food to eat and his brother said he would give him food in exchange for the birthright. Esau agreed to sell it, not only the material inheritance, but more importantly, the Spiritual Blessing for a temporary morsel of food.

    If you really want to know more details of this 3838 year old story go to chapter 25 verses 25-34 here:

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=1477

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Esau is the son of Issac, brother of Jacob-Israel. Esau and Jacob were twin brothers but Esau came out 1st, and by the rules at the time, being first born, he was destined to inherit everything. The Book describes Esau as a hairy man and a hunter while Jacob-Israel was a smooth man and a shepherd.

    The story goes as a young man, Esau came back from the hunt empty handed and was very hungry. He went to Jacob-Israel wanting food to eat and his brother said he would give him food in exchange for the birthright. Esau agreed to sell it, not only the material inheritance, but more importantly, the Spiritual Blessing for a temporary morsel of food.

    If you really want to know more details of this 3838 year old story go to chapter 25 verses 25-34 here:

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=1477

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Esau is the son of Issac, brother of Jacob-Israel. Esau and Jacob were twin brothers but Esau came out 1st, and by the rules at the time, being first born, he was destined to inherit everything. The Book describes Esau as a hairy man and a hunter while Jacob-Israel was a smooth man and a shepherd.

    The story goes as a young man, Esau came back from the hunt empty handed and was very hungry. He went to Jacob-Israel wanting food to eat and his brother said he would give him food in exchange for the birthright. Esau agreed to sell it, not only the material inheritance, but more importantly, the Spiritual Blessing for a temporary morsel of food.

    If you really want to know more details of this 3838 year old story go to chapter 25 verses 25-34 here:

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=1477

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Esau is the son of Issac, brother of Jacob-Israel. Esau and Jacob were twin brothers but Esau came out 1st, and by the rules at the time, being first born, he was destined to inherit everything. The Book describes Esau as a hairy man and a hunter while Jacob-Israel was a smooth man and a shepherd.

    The story goes as a young man, Esau came back from the hunt empty handed and was very hungry. He went to Jacob-Israel wanting food to eat and his brother said he would give him food in exchange for the birthright. Esau agreed to sell it, not only the material inheritance, but more importantly, the Spiritual Blessing for a temporary morsel of food.

    If you really want to know more details of this 3838 year old story go to chapter 25 verses 25-34 here:

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=1477

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Esau is the son of Issac, brother of Jacob-Israel. Esau and Jacob were twin brothers but Esau came out 1st, and by the rules at the time, being first born, he was destined to inherit everything. The Book describes Esau as a hairy man and a hunter while Jacob-Israel was a smooth man and a shepherd.

    The story goes as a young man, Esau came back from the hunt empty handed and was very hungry. He went to Jacob-Israel wanting food to eat and his brother said he would give him food in exchange for the birthright. Esau agreed to sell it, not only the material inheritance, but more importantly, the Spiritual Blessing for a temporary morsel of food.

    If you really want to know more details of this 3838 year old story go to chapter 25 verses 25-34 here:

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=1477

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Esau is the son of Issac, brother of Jacob-Israel. Esau and Jacob were twin brothers but Esau came out 1st, and by the rules at the time, being first born, he was destined to inherit everything. The Book describes Esau as a hairy man and a hunter while Jacob-Israel was a smooth man and a shepherd.

    The story goes as a young man, Esau came back from the hunt empty handed and was very hungry. He went to Jacob-Israel wanting food to eat and his brother said he would give him food in exchange for the birthright. Esau agreed to sell it, not only the material inheritance, but more importantly, the Spiritual Blessing for a temporary morsel of food.

    If you really want to know more details of this 3838 year old story go to chapter 25 verses 25-34 here:

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=1477

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Esau is the son of Issac, brother of Jacob-Israel. Esau and Jacob were twin brothers but Esau came out 1st, and by the rules at the time, being first born, he was destined to inherit everything. The Book describes Esau as a hairy man and a hunter while Jacob-Israel was a smooth man and a shepherd.

    The story goes as a young man, Esau came back from the hunt empty handed and was very hungry. He went to Jacob-Israel wanting food to eat and his brother said he would give him food in exchange for the birthright. Esau agreed to sell it, not only the material inheritance, but more importantly, the Spiritual Blessing for a temporary morsel of food.

    If you really want to know more details of this 3838 year old story go to chapter 25 verses 25-34 here:

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=1477

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Perhaps that’s why Michelle Obama is encouraging the people to start a garden.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Perhaps that’s why Michelle Obama is encouraging the people to start a garden.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Perhaps that’s why Michelle Obama is encouraging the people to start a garden.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Perhaps that’s why Michelle Obama is encouraging the people to start a garden.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Perhaps that’s why Michelle Obama is encouraging the people to start a garden.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Perhaps that’s why Michelle Obama is encouraging the people to start a garden.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Perhaps that’s why Michelle Obama is encouraging the people to start a garden.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Perhaps that’s why Michelle Obama is encouraging the people to start a garden.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Cookie Fox

    That’s true, but I don’t think that she does it because she understands Peak Oil and wants to spread local food growing. More likely its a small feel-good project to give some good PR. As I wrote; Forget the US government. Its too big and too corrupt to address the problems you should worry most about. Btw, my opinion is heavily influenced by Michael C Ruppert, so if you think I make sense, check his stuff.

  • Anonymous

    Citi bank did not have a “credit crunch”- they, just like JPM Chase, Bank of America and the other large banks are BANKRUPT. ie. insolvent. ie. Kaput.

  • Anonymous

    Citi bank did not have a “credit crunch”- they, just like JPM Chase, Bank of America and the other large banks are BANKRUPT. ie. insolvent. ie. Kaput.

  • Anonymous

    Citi bank did not have a “credit crunch”- they, just like JPM Chase, Bank of America and the other large banks are BANKRUPT. ie. insolvent. ie. Kaput.

  • Anonymous

    Why does Raw Story not call for clawbacks of ten years of ill-gotten bonuses, and the prosecution of criminal bankers, Raters, “regulators”, and auditors?

  • Anonymous

    Why does Raw Story not call for clawbacks of ten years of ill-gotten bonuses, and the prosecution of criminal bankers, Raters, “regulators”, and auditors?

  • Anonymous

    Why does Raw Story not call for clawbacks of ten years of ill-gotten bonuses, and the prosecution of criminal bankers, Raters, “regulators”, and auditors?

  • Anonymous

    The sorrows of empire. Chalmers Johnson was a prophet ahead of his time.

  • Anonymous

    The sorrows of empire. Chalmers Johnson was a prophet ahead of his time.

  • Anonymous

    The sorrows of empire. Chalmers Johnson was a prophet ahead of his time.

  • Anonymous

    The sorrows of empire. Chalmers Johnson was a prophet ahead of his time.

  • Anonymous

    The sorrows of empire. Chalmers Johnson was a prophet ahead of his time.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The Global economy did in fact collapse with the financial meltdown/economic Pearl Harbour-tsunami in the Fall of 2008.

    It is only because all world government’s embarked on deep deficit spending, not only in America, but in CanaDa, and all other industrialized Nations, that is maintaining the illusion of business as usual. It is only a matter of time before it unravels completely and the political/financial leaders have not figured out a way out yet.

    Seeing it is only paper accounting that is disrupting the lives of real people, it may be time to revisit and take a new realistic look at The Lord’s Prayer,

    Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.

    It might be the only practical approach to get out of the tightening economic straight jacket and start over again with a level playing field..

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The Global economy did in fact collapse with the financial meltdown/economic Pearl Harbour-tsunami in the Fall of 2008.

    It is only because all world government’s embarked on deep deficit spending, not only in America, but in CanaDa, and all other industrialized Nations, that is maintaining the illusion of business as usual. It is only a matter of time before it unravels completely and the political/financial leaders have not figured out a way out yet.

    Seeing it is only paper accounting that is disrupting the lives of real people, it may be time to revisit and take a new realistic look at The Lord’s Prayer,

    Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.

    It might be the only practical approach to get out of the tightening economic straight jacket and start over again with a level playing field..

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Because there was a real fraud perpetrated on the financial system by the Wall Street Titans and the Banks, by not prosecuting the guilty parties, it gives them licence to take even more risks in enriching themselves, advancing the Day of Reckoning knowing they can get away with it.

    We are now paying for in human suffering, and will have to suffer even more, the consequences for their “sins.”

    Having read recently about the two black sisters sentenced to life in prison for a $12 theft, but just released on the condition one sister donate a kidney to the other sister, the inequity of it all is mind boggling.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Because there was a real fraud perpetrated on the financial system by the Wall Street Titans and the Banks, by not prosecuting the guilty parties, it gives them licence to take even more risks in enriching themselves, advancing the Day of Reckoning knowing they can get away with it.

    We are now paying for in human suffering, and will have to suffer even more, the consequences for their “sins.”

    Having read recently about the two black sisters sentenced to life in prison for a $12 theft, but just released on the condition one sister donate a kidney to the other sister, the inequity of it all is mind boggling.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Because there was a real fraud perpetrated on the financial system by the Wall Street Titans and the Banks, by not prosecuting the guilty parties, it gives them licence to take even more risks in enriching themselves, advancing the Day of Reckoning knowing they can get away with it.

    We are now paying for in human suffering, and will have to suffer even more, the consequences for their “sins.”

    Having read recently about the two black sisters sentenced to life in prison for a $12 theft, but just released on the condition one sister donate a kidney to the other sister, the inequity of it all is mind boggling.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Because there was a real fraud perpetrated on the financial system by the Wall Street Titans and the Banks, by not prosecuting the guilty parties, it gives them licence to take even more risks in enriching themselves, advancing the Day of Reckoning knowing they can get away with it.

    We are now paying for in human suffering, and will have to suffer even more, the consequences for their “sins.”

    Having read recently about the two black sisters sentenced to life in prison for a $12 theft, but just released on the condition one sister donate a kidney to the other sister, the inequity of it all is mind boggling.

  • http://www.grandich.com/2011/01/things-90/ Things – Market, Economic, Social, Political and Life Commentary by Peter Grandich

    [...] Point of no return [...]

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    “Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.”

    This is brilliant!! thank you.

    I’m sure most people visiting Raw story have heard of Professor Michael Hudson. He has been advocating exactly this position.

    It really is the ONLY way to go. But the big Bankers will never allow it because this is so much more about total power than healing the economy.

    The student loan industry is killing our youth, as well as anybody that has to rely on loans for education. It’s across the board how this system is destroying people.

    It is no surprise that North Dakota is one of few in-the-black states, since they set up their state bank.

    Unfortunately we have a large right wing base of citizens that believe all the nonsense about “socialism” that is crammed into their brains constantly by corporate media. They are cutting social programs and selling off infrastructure to private business, many of whom are foreign countries. But you can’t reason with these Americans who are in this camp.

  • http://newslanc.com/2011/01/10/america-has-reached-the-point-of-no-return-reagan-budget-director-warns/ America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | NewsLanc.com

    [...] Click here to read the full article. [...]

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The rich and powerful of this world succumbed to the temptations.

    Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

    And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was after ward hungry.
    And when the tempter came to him, he said, If YOU BE the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
    But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

    Then the devil took him up into the holy city, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple,
    And said to him, If YOU BE the Son of God, cast yourself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning you: and in their hands they shall bear you up, lest at any time you dash your foot against a stone.
    Jesus said to him, It is written again, You shall not tempt the Lord your God.

    Again, the devil took him up to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
    And said to him, All these things will I give you, if you will fall down and worship me.
    Then said Jesus to him, Get out of here, Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.
    THEN the devil left him, and, behold, angels came and ministered to him.

    At the age of 30, I sold all my possessions and leaving family and friends behind in Montreal, put on a back pack and headed into the United States hitch hiking through 46 States to discover the Spirit of ’76. It was a very good year in my Life.

    Mindful of the story above, I entered the wilderness at Gila Bend, Arizona to test myself to see if I could last 40 days? I only lasted 3 days and nights, but at least I tried.

    I seek the Spirit in my life every Day and while you can’t always get what you want, if you try sometimes, you find you get what you need.

    The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
    He makes me to lie down in green pastures: he leads me beside the still waters.
    He restores my soul: he leads me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for you are with me; your rod and your staff they comfort me.
    You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies: you anoint my head with oil; my cup runs over.
    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

    Come out of Babylon, my people!

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The rich and powerful of this world succumbed to the temptations.

    Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

    And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was after ward hungry.
    And when the tempter came to him, he said, If YOU BE the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
    But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

    Then the devil took him up into the holy city, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple,
    And said to him, If YOU BE the Son of God, cast yourself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning you: and in their hands they shall bear you up, lest at any time you dash your foot against a stone.
    Jesus said to him, It is written again, You shall not tempt the Lord your God.

    Again, the devil took him up to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
    And said to him, All these things will I give you, if you will fall down and worship me.
    Then said Jesus to him, Get out of here, Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.
    THEN the devil left him, and, behold, angels came and ministered to him.

    At the age of 30, I sold all my possessions and leaving family and friends behind in Montreal, put on a back pack and headed into the United States hitch hiking through 46 States to discover the Spirit of ’76. It was a very good year in my Life.

    Mindful of the story above, I entered the wilderness at Gila Bend, Arizona to test myself to see if I could last 40 days? I only lasted 3 days and nights, but at least I tried.

    I seek the Spirit in my life every Day and while you can’t always get what you want, if you try sometimes, you find you get what you need.

    The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
    He makes me to lie down in green pastures: he leads me beside the still waters.
    He restores my soul: he leads me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for you are with me; your rod and your staff they comfort me.
    You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies: you anoint my head with oil; my cup runs over.
    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

    Come out of Babylon, my people!

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The rich and powerful of this world succumbed to the temptations.

    Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

    And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was after ward hungry.
    And when the tempter came to him, he said, If YOU BE the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
    But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

    Then the devil took him up into the holy city, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple,
    And said to him, If YOU BE the Son of God, cast yourself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning you: and in their hands they shall bear you up, lest at any time you dash your foot against a stone.
    Jesus said to him, It is written again, You shall not tempt the Lord your God.

    Again, the devil took him up to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
    And said to him, All these things will I give you, if you will fall down and worship me.
    Then said Jesus to him, Get out of here, Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.
    THEN the devil left him, and, behold, angels came and ministered to him.

    At the age of 30, I sold all my possessions and leaving family and friends behind in Montreal, put on a back pack and headed into the United States hitch hiking through 46 States to discover the Spirit of ’76. It was a very good year in my Life.

    Mindful of the story above, I entered the wilderness at Gila Bend, Arizona to test myself to see if I could last 40 days? I only lasted 3 days and nights, but at least I tried.

    I seek the Spirit in my life every Day and while you can’t always get what you want, if you try sometimes, you find you get what you need.

    The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
    He makes me to lie down in green pastures: he leads me beside the still waters.
    He restores my soul: he leads me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for you are with me; your rod and your staff they comfort me.
    You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies: you anoint my head with oil; my cup runs over.
    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

    Come out of Babylon, my people!

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The rich and powerful of this world succumbed to the temptations.

    Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

    And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was after ward hungry.
    And when the tempter came to him, he said, If YOU BE the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
    But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

    Then the devil took him up into the holy city, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple,
    And said to him, If YOU BE the Son of God, cast yourself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning you: and in their hands they shall bear you up, lest at any time you dash your foot against a stone.
    Jesus said to him, It is written again, You shall not tempt the Lord your God.

    Again, the devil took him up to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
    And said to him, All these things will I give you, if you will fall down and worship me.
    Then said Jesus to him, Get out of here, Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.
    THEN the devil left him, and, behold, angels came and ministered to him.

    At the age of 30, I sold all my possessions and leaving family and friends behind in Montreal, put on a back pack and headed into the United States hitch hiking through 46 States to discover the Spirit of ’76. It was a very good year in my Life.

    Mindful of the story above, I entered the wilderness at Gila Bend, Arizona to test myself to see if I could last 40 days? I only lasted 3 days and nights, but at least I tried.

    I seek the Spirit in my life every Day and while you can’t always get what you want, if you try sometimes, you find you get what you need.

    The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
    He makes me to lie down in green pastures: he leads me beside the still waters.
    He restores my soul: he leads me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for you are with me; your rod and your staff they comfort me.
    You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies: you anoint my head with oil; my cup runs over.
    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

    Come out of Babylon, my people!

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The rich and powerful of this world succumbed to the temptations.

    Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

    And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was after ward hungry.
    And when the tempter came to him, he said, If YOU BE the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
    But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

    Then the devil took him up into the holy city, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple,
    And said to him, If YOU BE the Son of God, cast yourself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning you: and in their hands they shall bear you up, lest at any time you dash your foot against a stone.
    Jesus said to him, It is written again, You shall not tempt the Lord your God.

    Again, the devil took him up to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
    And said to him, All these things will I give you, if you will fall down and worship me.
    Then said Jesus to him, Get out of here, Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.
    THEN the devil left him, and, behold, angels came and ministered to him.

    At the age of 30, I sold all my possessions and leaving family and friends behind in Montreal, put on a back pack and headed into the United States hitch hiking through 46 States to discover the Spirit of ’76. It was a very good year in my Life.

    Mindful of the story above, I entered the wilderness at Gila Bend, Arizona to test myself to see if I could last 40 days? I only lasted 3 days and nights, but at least I tried.

    I seek the Spirit in my life every Day and while you can’t always get what you want, if you try sometimes, you find you get what you need.

    The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
    He makes me to lie down in green pastures: he leads me beside the still waters.
    He restores my soul: he leads me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for you are with me; your rod and your staff they comfort me.
    You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies: you anoint my head with oil; my cup runs over.
    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

    Come out of Babylon, my people!

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    I blame Alan Greenspan, the Bubble Man.

    http://www.youtube.com/scotto2008#p/u/9/Q3peAYJSJSg

  • http://twitter.com/scotto2008 Scott Pettersen

    I blame Alan Greenspan, the Bubble Man.

    http://www.youtube.com/scotto2008#p/u/9/Q3peAYJSJSg

  • http://polizeros.com/2011/01/12/reagan-budget-director-calls-for-huge-cuts-in-military-spending/ Reagan budget director calls for huge cuts in military spending | Politics in the Zeros

    [...] google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 15; David Stockman, Reagan’s budget director says the US has “reached the point of no return” and that spending for the military and [...]

  • http://www.ntswebsoft.de/?p=4807 21. Jahrhundert » Blog Archiv » Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | Raw Story

    [...] Exclusive: America has ‘reached the point of no return,’ Reagan budget director warns | Raw Stor…. // Share| Januar 13, 2011 at 12:04 am by admin Category: USA [...]

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P6WMVVTOWXURLHLDVPMCMLBV54 Donna Trump

    Stockman speaks the truth. He’s also a shameless hypocrite and a fraud.

    In 1980, the US debt-to-GDP ratio bottomed out at less than 40%, having declined steadily since the end of WW2. All through the huge expansion of government and public spending during the Cold War, the space program, Vietnam, LBJ’s and Nixon’s social programs, etc, the debt of the US government continually fell as a proportion of the the total economy. In spite of the massive growth of government, the balance sheet of the Treasury continually improved.

    Then Reagan was elected, and made Stockman his budget director. Personal taxes were cut radically. The original idea was that tax cuts would increase government revenue so much that deficits would disappear, and the US national debt might actually be completely paid off in a generation or so.

    Didn’t quite work out that way. Reagan’s (and Stockman’s) budgets tripled a 200-year debt in 8 years. Bush 41 compounded this amount by half again in only 4 years. Bush 43 doubled the whole red-ink mess in 7 years, assisted by a Republican congress. Only that awful ‘tax & spend Liberal’ actually generated surpluses, along with the best economic record since the 60s.

    Stockman’s budgets ushered in a 30 year carnival of deficit spending. The debt increased by a nominal factor of 11, while the economy grew only 5 times. Don’t blame the Democrats for this – the majority of this mess compounded itself under Republican Presidents and Republican Congresses. Dick Cheney actually boasted, “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”

    The party of “fiscal conservatism” – including one David Stockman – gutted the credit, Treasury and prosperity of the USA.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P6WMVVTOWXURLHLDVPMCMLBV54 Donna Trump

    Stockman speaks the truth. He’s also a shameless hypocrite and a fraud.

    In 1980, the US debt-to-GDP ratio bottomed out at less than 40%, having declined steadily since the end of WW2. All through the huge expansion of government and public spending during the Cold War, the space program, Vietnam, LBJ’s and Nixon’s social programs, etc, the debt of the US government continually fell as a proportion of the the total economy. In spite of the massive growth of government, the balance sheet of the Treasury continually improved.

    Then Reagan was elected, and made Stockman his budget director. Personal taxes were cut radically. The original idea was that tax cuts would increase government revenue so much that deficits would disappear, and the US national debt might actually be completely paid off in a generation or so.

    Didn’t quite work out that way. Reagan’s (and Stockman’s) budgets tripled a 200-year debt in 8 years. Bush 41 compounded this amount by half again in only 4 years. Bush 43 doubled the whole red-ink mess in 7 years, assisted by a Republican congress. Only that awful ‘tax & spend Liberal’ actually generated surpluses, along with the best economic record since the 60s.

    Stockman’s budgets ushered in a 30 year carnival of deficit spending. The debt increased by a nominal factor of 11, while the economy grew only 5 times. Don’t blame the Democrats for this – the majority of this mess compounded itself under Republican Presidents and Republican Congresses. Dick Cheney actually boasted, “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”

    The party of “fiscal conservatism” – including one David Stockman – gutted the credit, Treasury and prosperity of the USA.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P6WMVVTOWXURLHLDVPMCMLBV54 Donna Trump

    Stockman speaks the truth. He’s also a shameless hypocrite and a fraud.

    In 1980, the US debt-to-GDP ratio bottomed out at less than 40%, having declined steadily since the end of WW2. All through the huge expansion of government and public spending during the Cold War, the space program, Vietnam, LBJ’s and Nixon’s social programs, etc, the debt of the US government continually fell as a proportion of the the total economy. In spite of the massive growth of government, the balance sheet of the Treasury continually improved.

    Then Reagan was elected, and made Stockman his budget director. Personal taxes were cut radically. The original idea was that tax cuts would increase government revenue so much that deficits would disappear, and the US national debt might actually be completely paid off in a generation or so.

    Didn’t quite work out that way. Reagan’s (and Stockman’s) budgets tripled a 200-year debt in 8 years. Bush 41 compounded this amount by half again in only 4 years. Bush 43 doubled the whole red-ink mess in 7 years, assisted by a Republican congress. Only that awful ‘tax & spend Liberal’ actually generated surpluses, along with the best economic record since the 60s.

    Stockman’s budgets ushered in a 30 year carnival of deficit spending. The debt increased by a nominal factor of 11, while the economy grew only 5 times. Don’t blame the Democrats for this – the majority of this mess compounded itself under Republican Presidents and Republican Congresses. Dick Cheney actually boasted, “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”

    The party of “fiscal conservatism” – including one David Stockman – gutted the credit, Treasury and prosperity of the USA.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P6WMVVTOWXURLHLDVPMCMLBV54 Donna Trump

    Stockman speaks the truth. He’s also a shameless hypocrite and a fraud.

    In 1980, the US debt-to-GDP ratio bottomed out at less than 40%, having declined steadily since the end of WW2. All through the huge expansion of government and public spending during the Cold War, the space program, Vietnam, LBJ’s and Nixon’s social programs, etc, the debt of the US government continually fell as a proportion of the the total economy. In spite of the massive growth of government, the balance sheet of the Treasury continually improved.

    Then Reagan was elected, and made Stockman his budget director. Personal taxes were cut radically. The original idea was that tax cuts would increase government revenue so much that deficits would disappear, and the US national debt might actually be completely paid off in a generation or so.

    Didn’t quite work out that way. Reagan’s (and Stockman’s) budgets tripled a 200-year debt in 8 years. Bush 41 compounded this amount by half again in only 4 years. Bush 43 doubled the whole red-ink mess in 7 years, assisted by a Republican congress. Only that awful ‘tax & spend Liberal’ actually generated surpluses, along with the best economic record since the 60s.

    Stockman’s budgets ushered in a 30 year carnival of deficit spending. The debt increased by a nominal factor of 11, while the economy grew only 5 times. Don’t blame the Democrats for this – the majority of this mess compounded itself under Republican Presidents and Republican Congresses. Dick Cheney actually boasted, “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”

    The party of “fiscal conservatism” – including one David Stockman – gutted the credit, Treasury and prosperity of the USA.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P6WMVVTOWXURLHLDVPMCMLBV54 Donna Trump

    Stockman speaks the truth. He’s also a shameless hypocrite and a fraud.

    In 1980, the US debt-to-GDP ratio bottomed out at less than 40%, having declined steadily since the end of WW2. All through the huge expansion of government and public spending during the Cold War, the space program, Vietnam, LBJ’s and Nixon’s social programs, etc, the debt of the US government continually fell as a proportion of the the total economy. In spite of the massive growth of government, the balance sheet of the Treasury continually improved.

    Then Reagan was elected, and made Stockman his budget director. Personal taxes were cut radically. The original idea was that tax cuts would increase government revenue so much that deficits would disappear, and the US national debt might actually be completely paid off in a generation or so.

    Didn’t quite work out that way. Reagan’s (and Stockman’s) budgets tripled a 200-year debt in 8 years. Bush 41 compounded this amount by half again in only 4 years. Bush 43 doubled the whole red-ink mess in 7 years, assisted by a Republican congress. Only that awful ‘tax & spend Liberal’ actually generated surpluses, along with the best economic record since the 60s.

    Stockman’s budgets ushered in a 30 year carnival of deficit spending. The debt increased by a nominal factor of 11, while the economy grew only 5 times. Don’t blame the Democrats for this – the majority of this mess compounded itself under Republican Presidents and Republican Congresses. Dick Cheney actually boasted, “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”

    The party of “fiscal conservatism” – including one David Stockman – gutted the credit, Treasury and prosperity of the USA.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P6WMVVTOWXURLHLDVPMCMLBV54 Donna Trump

    Stockman speaks the truth. He’s also a shameless hypocrite and a fraud.

    In 1980, the US debt-to-GDP ratio bottomed out at less than 40%, having declined steadily since the end of WW2. All through the huge expansion of government and public spending during the Cold War, the space program, Vietnam, LBJ’s and Nixon’s social programs, etc, the debt of the US government continually fell as a proportion of the the total economy. In spite of the massive growth of government, the balance sheet of the Treasury continually improved.

    Then Reagan was elected, and made Stockman his budget director. Personal taxes were cut radically. The original idea was that tax cuts would increase government revenue so much that deficits would disappear, and the US national debt might actually be completely paid off in a generation or so.

    Didn’t quite work out that way. Reagan’s (and Stockman’s) budgets tripled a 200-year debt in 8 years. Bush 41 compounded this amount by half again in only 4 years. Bush 43 doubled the whole red-ink mess in 7 years, assisted by a Republican congress. Only that awful ‘tax & spend Liberal’ actually generated surpluses, along with the best economic record since the 60s.

    Stockman’s budgets ushered in a 30 year carnival of deficit spending. The debt increased by a nominal factor of 11, while the economy grew only 5 times. Don’t blame the Democrats for this – the majority of this mess compounded itself under Republican Presidents and Republican Congresses. Dick Cheney actually boasted, “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”

    The party of “fiscal conservatism” – including one David Stockman – gutted the credit, Treasury and prosperity of the USA.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P6WMVVTOWXURLHLDVPMCMLBV54 Donna Trump

    Stockman speaks the truth. He’s also a shameless hypocrite and a fraud.

    In 1980, the US debt-to-GDP ratio bottomed out at less than 40%, having declined steadily since the end of WW2. All through the huge expansion of government and public spending during the Cold War, the space program, Vietnam, LBJ’s and Nixon’s social programs, etc, the debt of the US government continually fell as a proportion of the the total economy. In spite of the massive growth of government, the balance sheet of the Treasury continually improved.

    Then Reagan was elected, and made Stockman his budget director. Personal taxes were cut radically. The original idea was that tax cuts would increase government revenue so much that deficits would disappear, and the US national debt might actually be completely paid off in a generation or so.

    Didn’t quite work out that way. Reagan’s (and Stockman’s) budgets tripled a 200-year debt in 8 years. Bush 41 compounded this amount by half again in only 4 years. Bush 43 doubled the whole red-ink mess in 7 years, assisted by a Republican congress. Only that awful ‘tax & spend Liberal’ actually generated surpluses, along with the best economic record since the 60s.

    Stockman’s budgets ushered in a 30 year carnival of deficit spending. The debt increased by a nominal factor of 11, while the economy grew only 5 times. Don’t blame the Democrats for this – the majority of this mess compounded itself under Republican Presidents and Republican Congresses. Dick Cheney actually boasted, “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”

    The party of “fiscal conservatism” – including one David Stockman – gutted the credit, Treasury and prosperity of the USA.

  • http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/jobs-what-was-and-what-isnt/ Jobs (What Was and What Isn’t) « BuelahMan's Revolt

    [...] but they are still holding on. But holding on for what? Washington’s Blog has a link to Raw Story’s interview with David Stockman. The answer is revealing: We are now at a historical inflection point at which the time has [...]

  • Anonymous

    Sotckman sounds surprisingly like Ron Paul. Why Paul been so far ahead of Stockman for so long?

    Once you understand Keynesianism you become qualified to run Ponzi schemes.

    Paul predicted this in 1983 and said he was not sure how Keynesian policies would manifiest themselves in the future, but he predicted it would be disasterous and ruinous. He was laughed at as a fanatical ideologue. Now people understand he was a rational observer who accurately predicted the future.

    When you understand Austrian economics, you will understand everything.

  • Anonymous

    Sotckman sounds surprisingly like Ron Paul. Why Paul been so far ahead of Stockman for so long?

    Once you understand Keynesianism you become qualified to run Ponzi schemes.

    Paul predicted this in 1983 and said he was not sure how Keynesian policies would manifiest themselves in the future, but he predicted it would be disasterous and ruinous. He was laughed at as a fanatical ideologue. Now people understand he was a rational observer who accurately predicted the future.

    When you understand Austrian economics, you will understand everything.

  • Anonymous

    Sotckman sounds surprisingly like Ron Paul. Why Paul been so far ahead of Stockman for so long?

    Once you understand Keynesianism you become qualified to run Ponzi schemes.

    Paul predicted this in 1983 and said he was not sure how Keynesian policies would manifiest themselves in the future, but he predicted it would be disasterous and ruinous. He was laughed at as a fanatical ideologue. Now people understand he was a rational observer who accurately predicted the future.

    When you understand Austrian economics, you will understand everything.

  • Anonymous

    Sotckman sounds surprisingly like Ron Paul. Why Paul been so far ahead of Stockman for so long?

    Once you understand Keynesianism you become qualified to run Ponzi schemes.

    Paul predicted this in 1983 and said he was not sure how Keynesian policies would manifiest themselves in the future, but he predicted it would be disasterous and ruinous. He was laughed at as a fanatical ideologue. Now people understand he was a rational observer who accurately predicted the future.

    When you understand Austrian economics, you will understand everything.

  • Anonymous

    Sotckman sounds surprisingly like Ron Paul. Why Paul been so far ahead of Stockman for so long?

    Once you understand Keynesianism you become qualified to run Ponzi schemes.

    Paul predicted this in 1983 and said he was not sure how Keynesian policies would manifiest themselves in the future, but he predicted it would be disasterous and ruinous. He was laughed at as a fanatical ideologue. Now people understand he was a rational observer who accurately predicted the future.

    When you understand Austrian economics, you will understand everything.

  • Anonymous

    Sotckman sounds surprisingly like Ron Paul. Why Paul been so far ahead of Stockman for so long?

    Once you understand Keynesianism you become qualified to run Ponzi schemes.

    Paul predicted this in 1983 and said he was not sure how Keynesian policies would manifiest themselves in the future, but he predicted it would be disasterous and ruinous. He was laughed at as a fanatical ideologue. Now people understand he was a rational observer who accurately predicted the future.

    When you understand Austrian economics, you will understand everything.

  • Anonymous

    Sotckman sounds surprisingly like Ron Paul. Why Paul been so far ahead of Stockman for so long?

    Once you understand Keynesianism you become qualified to run Ponzi schemes.

    Paul predicted this in 1983 and said he was not sure how Keynesian policies would manifiest themselves in the future, but he predicted it would be disasterous and ruinous. He was laughed at as a fanatical ideologue. Now people understand he was a rational observer who accurately predicted the future.

    When you understand Austrian economics, you will understand everything.

  • Anonymous

    Sotckman sounds surprisingly like Ron Paul. Why Paul been so far ahead of Stockman for so long?

    Once you understand Keynesianism you become qualified to run Ponzi schemes.

    Paul predicted this in 1983 and said he was not sure how Keynesian policies would manifiest themselves in the future, but he predicted it would be disasterous and ruinous. He was laughed at as a fanatical ideologue. Now people understand he was a rational observer who accurately predicted the future.

    When you understand Austrian economics, you will understand everything.

  • Anonymous

    Sotckman sounds surprisingly like Ron Paul. Why Paul been so far ahead of Stockman for so long?

    Once you understand Keynesianism you become qualified to run Ponzi schemes.

    Paul predicted this in 1983 and said he was not sure how Keynesian policies would manifiest themselves in the future, but he predicted it would be disasterous and ruinous. He was laughed at as a fanatical ideologue. Now people understand he was a rational observer who accurately predicted the future.

    When you understand Austrian economics, you will understand everything.

  • http://bruce.maulden.us/2011/01/13/gluttony-of-greed-beyond-the-point/ Compatible Creatures – War & Politics & Life – Gluttony of Greed — ‘Beyond the point’

    [...] and Budget, says the US is in dire straits and maybe beyond salvage. In an interview with Raw Story, Stockman explains the military empire the US created is pushing the disaster envelope. A couple of [...]

  • Anonymous

    Stockman is wrong about the $78 billion reduction in Pentagram spending, it is a reduction of future increases for the Pentagram budget. He also presided over the Reagan initiated huge Federal government deficit spending while simultaneously increasing Pentagram spending which is funded with the Treasury bond proceeds for the national debt. Admiral Mullen declared the national debt a threat to national security while it is the national debt which funds the Pentagon, a threat to national security to protect US from threats to national security. In his behalf Stockman did resign from teh Reagan administion.

  • Anonymous

    Stockman is wrong about the $78 billion reduction in Pentagram spending, it is a reduction of future increases for the Pentagram budget. He also presided over the Reagan initiated huge Federal government deficit spending while simultaneously increasing Pentagram spending which is funded with the Treasury bond proceeds for the national debt. Admiral Mullen declared the national debt a threat to national security while it is the national debt which funds the Pentagon, a threat to national security to protect US from threats to national security. In his behalf Stockman did resign from teh Reagan administion.

  • Anonymous

    Stockman is wrong about the $78 billion reduction in Pentagram spending, it is a reduction of future increases for the Pentagram budget. He also presided over the Reagan initiated huge Federal government deficit spending while simultaneously increasing Pentagram spending which is funded with the Treasury bond proceeds for the national debt. Admiral Mullen declared the national debt a threat to national security while it is the national debt which funds the Pentagon, a threat to national security to protect US from threats to national security. In his behalf Stockman did resign from teh Reagan administion.

  • Anonymous

    Stockman is wrong about the $78 billion reduction in Pentagram spending, it is a reduction of future increases for the Pentagram budget. He also presided over the Reagan initiated huge Federal government deficit spending while simultaneously increasing Pentagram spending which is funded with the Treasury bond proceeds for the national debt. Admiral Mullen declared the national debt a threat to national security while it is the national debt which funds the Pentagon, a threat to national security to protect US from threats to national security. In his behalf Stockman did resign from teh Reagan administion.

  • Anonymous

    Stockman is wrong about the $78 billion reduction in Pentagram spending, it is a reduction of future increases for the Pentagram budget. He also presided over the Reagan initiated huge Federal government deficit spending while simultaneously increasing Pentagram spending which is funded with the Treasury bond proceeds for the national debt. Admiral Mullen declared the national debt a threat to national security while it is the national debt which funds the Pentagon, a threat to national security to protect US from threats to national security. In his behalf Stockman did resign from teh Reagan administion.

  • Anonymous

    The early Jews did exactly that, debt were forgiven. Today’s the racist Zionist Jews would restrict that to Jew only forgiving the debts of other Jews

  • Anonymous

    The early Jews did exactly that, debt were forgiven. Today’s the racist Zionist Jews would restrict that to Jew only forgiving the debts of other Jews

  • Anonymous

    The early Jews did exactly that, debt were forgiven. Today’s the racist Zionist Jews would restrict that to Jew only forgiving the debts of other Jews

  • Anonymous

    The early Jews did exactly that, debt were forgiven. Today’s the racist Zionist Jews would restrict that to Jew only forgiving the debts of other Jews

  • Anonymous

    The early Jews did exactly that, debt were forgiven. Today’s the racist Zionist Jews would restrict that to Jew only forgiving the debts of other Jews

  • Anonymous

    The early Jews did exactly that, debt were forgiven. Today’s the racist Zionist Jews would restrict that to Jew only forgiving the debts of other Jews

  • Anonymous

    In the USA the general public is the enemy and the enemy is funding its own destruction with its ‘forced contributions’ withholding taxes and the mindlessness American taxpayers don’t have a clue.

  • Anonymous

    In the USA the general public is the enemy and the enemy is funding its own destruction with its ‘forced contributions’ withholding taxes and the mindlessness American taxpayers don’t have a clue.

  • Anonymous

    In the USA the general public is the enemy and the enemy is funding its own destruction with its ‘forced contributions’ withholding taxes and the mindlessness American taxpayers don’t have a clue.

  • Anonymous

    In the USA the general public is the enemy and the enemy is funding its own destruction with its ‘forced contributions’ withholding taxes and the mindlessness American taxpayers don’t have a clue.

  • Anonymous

    In the USA the general public is the enemy and the enemy is funding its own destruction with its ‘forced contributions’ withholding taxes and the mindlessness American taxpayers don’t have a clue.

  • Anonymous

    In the USA the general public is the enemy and the enemy is funding its own destruction with its ‘forced contributions’ withholding taxes and the mindlessness American taxpayers don’t have a clue.

  • Anonymous

    In the USA the general public is the enemy and the enemy is funding its own destruction with its ‘forced contributions’ withholding taxes and the mindlessness American taxpayers don’t have a clue.

  • Anonymous

    In the USA the general public is the enemy and the enemy is funding its own destruction with its ‘forced contributions’ withholding taxes and the mindlessness American taxpayers don’t have a clue.

  • Anonymous

    They know what they are doing. The ‘too big too fail’ is being taught in business and law schools.

  • Anonymous

    They know what they are doing. The ‘too big too fail’ is being taught in business and law schools.

  • Anonymous

    They know what they are doing. The ‘too big too fail’ is being taught in business and law schools.

  • Anonymous

    They know what they are doing. The ‘too big too fail’ is being taught in business and law schools.

  • Anonymous

    They know what they are doing. The ‘too big too fail’ is being taught in business and law schools.

  • Anonymous

    They know what they are doing. The ‘too big too fail’ is being taught in business and law schools.

  • Anonymous

    They know what they are doing. The ‘too big too fail’ is being taught in business and law schools.

  • Anonymous

    They know what they are doing. The ‘too big too fail’ is being taught in business and law schools.

  • Anonymous

    They know what they are doing. The ‘too big too fail’ is being taught in business and law schools.

  • Anonymous

    The proper use of debt is to use it to invest in projects which will create a rate of return from the investment to repay the debt and the interest. This is likely what Keynes imagined about how the debt proceeds should be used.

  • Anonymous

    The proper use of debt is to use it to invest in projects which will create a rate of return from the investment to repay the debt and the interest. This is likely what Keynes imagined about how the debt proceeds should be used.

  • Anonymous

    The proper use of debt is to use it to invest in projects which will create a rate of return from the investment to repay the debt and the interest. This is likely what Keynes imagined about how the debt proceeds should be used.

  • Anonymous

    The proper use of debt is to use it to invest in projects which will create a rate of return from the investment to repay the debt and the interest. This is likely what Keynes imagined about how the debt proceeds should be used.

  • Anonymous

    The proper use of debt is to use it to invest in projects which will create a rate of return from the investment to repay the debt and the interest. This is likely what Keynes imagined about how the debt proceeds should be used.

  • Anonymous

    The proper use of debt is to use it to invest in projects which will create a rate of return from the investment to repay the debt and the interest. This is likely what Keynes imagined about how the debt proceeds should be used.

  • Anonymous

    The proper use of debt is to use it to invest in projects which will create a rate of return from the investment to repay the debt and the interest. This is likely what Keynes imagined about how the debt proceeds should be used.

  • Anonymous

    The proper use of debt is to use it to invest in projects which will create a rate of return from the investment to repay the debt and the interest. This is likely what Keynes imagined about how the debt proceeds should be used.

  • Anonymous

    The proper use of debt is to use it to invest in projects which will create a rate of return from the investment to repay the debt and the interest. This is likely what Keynes imagined about how the debt proceeds should be used.

  • Anonymous

    The proper use of debt is to use it to invest in projects which will create a rate of return from the investment to repay the debt and the interest. This is likely what Keynes imagined about how the debt proceeds should be used.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If the Jews of Israel would declare a Jubilee Year, which is a requirement of God for the continued peace and prosperity of the Nation, many of the roadblocks and obstacles to a lasting Peace would be removed. It is already 13 years overdue and there is no talk or discussion of it in Israel even now.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Anonymous

    The Repubicans and the INTERNATIONALIST CORPORATOCRACY PREDATORY CAPITALIST WELFARE KINGS have created a war on labor to deflect attention from their financial fraud misdeeds and huge bonuses,from themselves. ObomberBush has joined their chorus by eliminating pay increases for Federal employees.Classic REpubican tactic and all the while the accusers claim the rhetoric of the pretend christains[biblical harlots] I’m not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I’m not responsbile”. It was the public employees and the unions.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Before they were called ‘Prophets’ they were called ‘Seers.’ There are people these days who ‘See’ things fundamentally important to our Common Future Well Being that cannot be dismissed, but must be addressed.

    It is hard for those individuals who See now, surrounded by a mass of people seeking only instant gratification and mindless entertainment, and without any patience, trying to escape from having to face a challenging reality that is a looming threat to Humankind visible on the horizon. The Truth is, everyone within the privacy of their own thoughts can see it on the way, but it’s a downer to talk about when everyone wants to have fun. The more it is put off, the closer it comes.

    Christ teaches in your Patience you possess your soul. Most people’s souls are divided over money, other people and things to the denial of the Spirit that makes the soul whole.

    Those Seers of Today, though they may feel set apart and isolated from those who don’t see, or don’t want to see what is at stake in our Generation for now, take courage and don’t despair. Strive to be perfect in the Word made Flesh with Patience. God is with us.

  • http://media-monitors.blogspot.com/ Public Takeover

    A prophet is never loved in his own country.

  • http://media-monitors.blogspot.com/ Public Takeover

    A prophet is never loved in his own country.

  • http://media-monitors.blogspot.com/ Public Takeover

    A prophet is never loved in his own country.

  • http://media-monitors.blogspot.com/ Public Takeover

    A prophet is never loved in his own country.

  • http://media-monitors.blogspot.com/ Public Takeover

    A prophet is never loved in his own country.

  • http://media-monitors.blogspot.com/ Public Takeover

    A prophet is never loved in his own country.

  • http://media-monitors.blogspot.com/ Public Takeover

    A prophet is never loved in his own country.

  • http://media-monitors.blogspot.com/ Public Takeover

    A prophet is never loved in his own country.

  • http://www.republicmonetaryexchangenewsblog.com/2011/01/america-has-%e2%80%98reached-the-point-of-no-return%e2%80%99-reagan-budget-director-warns/ America has ‘Reached the Point of No Return,’ Reagan Budget Director Warns « Republic Monetary Exchange News Blog

    [...] more on this article here Tagged as: David Stockman, Obama, Raw Story, Reagan, wealth Comments Off Comments (0) [...]

  • Anonymous

    The biblical “Year of Jubilee”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UJBZIBJ5JIHXUDEGDODZCVBHHY Richard Williams

    Now if belief in Jesus would help me make this car payment…but I’m fairly certain it won’t. Unfortunately all of your prayers are just as empty as the check I’m writing. To quote David Bazan, “If you knew what would happen, and you made us just the same, then you my lord can take the blame.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UJBZIBJ5JIHXUDEGDODZCVBHHY Richard Williams

    Now if belief in Jesus would help me make this car payment…but I’m fairly certain it won’t. Unfortunately all of your prayers are just as empty as the check I’m writing. To quote David Bazan, “If you knew what would happen, and you made us just the same, then you my lord can take the blame.”

  • Anonymous

    proselytizing is a bit of a hard read…any way to speak you heart more honestly, with less fear?

  • Anonymous

    proselytizing is a bit of a hard read…any way to speak you heart more honestly, with less fear?

  • Anonymous

    proselytizing is a bit of a hard read…any way to speak you heart more honestly, with less fear?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/HB54FIA4T4YOT2FAMVYYAKE2RQ Sean

    Gotta gut the military. Of course, that’ll spike unemployment but hey…life sucks.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/HB54FIA4T4YOT2FAMVYYAKE2RQ Sean

    Gotta gut the military. Of course, that’ll spike unemployment but hey…life sucks.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/HB54FIA4T4YOT2FAMVYYAKE2RQ Sean

    Gotta gut the military. Of course, that’ll spike unemployment but hey…life sucks.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/HB54FIA4T4YOT2FAMVYYAKE2RQ Sean

    Gotta gut the military. Of course, that’ll spike unemployment but hey…life sucks.

  • MubarakTreatment

    Your obsession with the bible turns me off. You may have some meaningful comment hidden there, but you need to be more wise and get your message across without reference to someone else’s bible “wisdom”.

  • MubarakTreatment

    Your obsession with the bible turns me off. You may have some meaningful comment hidden there, but you need to be more wise and get your message across without reference to someone else’s bible “wisdom”.

  • MubarakTreatment

    Your obsession with the bible turns me off. You may have some meaningful comment hidden there, but you need to be more wise and get your message across without reference to someone else’s bible “wisdom”.

  • MubarakTreatment

    Your obsession with the bible turns me off. You may have some meaningful comment hidden there, but you need to be more wise and get your message across without reference to someone else’s bible “wisdom”.

  • MubarakTreatment

    Your obsession with the bible turns me off. You may have some meaningful comment hidden there, but you need to be more wise and get your message across without reference to someone else’s bible “wisdom”.

  • MubarakTreatment

    Your obsession with the bible turns me off. You may have some meaningful comment hidden there, but you need to be more wise and get your message across without reference to someone else’s bible “wisdom”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AHYRXQUYMPA5HMEAXDKN4EWDA4 Required my ass

    Too bad what you’ve said will fall on too many deaf ears.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    My comment was in reply to Mihailescu who asked, who is Esau? I answered the question. The question obviously has been removed for whatever reason.

    If my knowledge of the Bible turns you off, no one is forcing you to read my comments. It’s that simple! Just move on and comment on what interests you.

  • Anonymous

    I suppose David Bazan would have preferred to have been made a robot, shakled in a human body unable to say no to God’s incessant pushing of the ‘Worship Me’ button. Use your freewill, love God and love your neighbor as yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Of course this from the very guy who began our slide into oblivion with Reagan/Bush 41. The absurdity of this story is that the military budget launch into deep space during the Reagan/Bush 41 years while fighting shadows and continued under Bush 43/Cheaney starting wars all over the world for fun and excitement to alleviate their boredom and to distract he “real” Americans from hanging them for the rigged selection and 9/11

  • Anonymous

    Of course this from the very guy who began our slide into oblivion with Reagan/Bush 41. The absurdity of this story is that the military budget launch into deep space during the Reagan/Bush 41 years while fighting shadows and continued under Bush 43/Cheaney starting wars all over the world for fun and excitement to alleviate their boredom and to distract he “real” Americans from hanging them for the rigged selection and 9/11

  • Anonymous

    Of course this from the very guy who began our slide into oblivion with Reagan/Bush 41. The absurdity of this story is that the military budget launch into deep space during the Reagan/Bush 41 years while fighting shadows and continued under Bush 43/Cheaney starting wars all over the world for fun and excitement to alleviate their boredom and to distract he “real” Americans from hanging them for the rigged selection and 9/11

  • Anonymous

    Of course this from the very guy who began our slide into oblivion with Reagan/Bush 41. The absurdity of this story is that the military budget launch into deep space during the Reagan/Bush 41 years while fighting shadows and continued under Bush 43/Cheaney starting wars all over the world for fun and excitement to alleviate their boredom and to distract he “real” Americans from hanging them for the rigged selection and 9/11

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    argenta I changed the thee, thou and thy to contemporary language in an attempt to make it easier to read.

    Every commentator here is expressing their point of view in exercising their Democratic right to Freedom of Speech as I am equally entitled to do. Is that trying to convert others to ascribe to one’s point of view or in a word, proselytizing? Do believers in God not have the same civic rights?

    No one can force anyone else to read or take an interest in any comment. While I used Scriptural text to make a point, I can easily answer any specific question posed to me in my own words from the heart. My comments are not made to induce fear in anybody, but if you would explain to me what specifically in my comment causes you to fear, I will address that.

    If we are going to be balanced, this article on David Stockman and similar stories in the news media cause many people to fear, even though they may not mention the Spirit of God or the Bible or religion of any sort, except for the secular religion devoted to the worship of money and dedicated service for it.

    .

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    argenta I changed the thee, thou and thy to contemporary language in an attempt to make it easier to read.

    Every commentator here is expressing their point of view in exercising their Democratic right to Freedom of Speech as I am equally entitled to do. Is that trying to convert others to ascribe to one’s point of view or in a word, proselytizing? Do believers in God not have the same civic rights?

    No one can force anyone else to read or take an interest in any comment. While I used Scriptural text to make a point, I can easily answer any specific question posed to me in my own words from the heart. My comments are not made to induce fear in anybody, but if you would explain to me what specifically in my comment causes you to fear, I will address that.

    If we are going to be balanced, this article on David Stockman and similar stories in the news media cause many people to fear, even though they may not mention the Spirit of God or the Bible or religion of any sort, except for the secular religion devoted to the worship of money and dedicated service for it.

    .

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    argenta I changed the thee, thou and thy to contemporary language in an attempt to make it easier to read.

    Every commentator here is expressing their point of view in exercising their Democratic right to Freedom of Speech as I am equally entitled to do. Is that trying to convert others to ascribe to one’s point of view or in a word, proselytizing? Do believers in God not have the same civic rights?

    No one can force anyone else to read or take an interest in any comment. While I used Scriptural text to make a point, I can easily answer any specific question posed to me in my own words from the heart. My comments are not made to induce fear in anybody, but if you would explain to me what specifically in my comment causes you to fear, I will address that.

    If we are going to be balanced, this article on David Stockman and similar stories in the news media cause many people to fear, even though they may not mention the Spirit of God or the Bible or religion of any sort, except for the secular religion devoted to the worship of money and dedicated service for it.

    .

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    argenta I changed the thee, thou and thy to contemporary language in an attempt to make it easier to read.

    Every commentator here is expressing their point of view in exercising their Democratic right to Freedom of Speech as I am equally entitled to do. Is that trying to convert others to ascribe to one’s point of view or in a word, proselytizing? Do believers in God not have the same civic rights?

    No one can force anyone else to read or take an interest in any comment. While I used Scriptural text to make a point, I can easily answer any specific question posed to me in my own words from the heart. My comments are not made to induce fear in anybody, but if you would explain to me what specifically in my comment causes you to fear, I will address that.

    If we are going to be balanced, this article on David Stockman and similar stories in the news media cause many people to fear, even though they may not mention the Spirit of God or the Bible or religion of any sort, except for the secular religion devoted to the worship of money and dedicated service for it.

    .

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    argenta I changed the thee, thou and thy to contemporary language in an attempt to make it easier to read.

    Every commentator here is expressing their point of view in exercising their Democratic right to Freedom of Speech as I am equally entitled to do. Is that trying to convert others to ascribe to one’s point of view or in a word, proselytizing? Do believers in God not have the same civic rights?

    No one can force anyone else to read or take an interest in any comment. While I used Scriptural text to make a point, I can easily answer any specific question posed to me in my own words from the heart. My comments are not made to induce fear in anybody, but if you would explain to me what specifically in my comment causes you to fear, I will address that.

    If we are going to be balanced, this article on David Stockman and similar stories in the news media cause many people to fear, even though they may not mention the Spirit of God or the Bible or religion of any sort, except for the secular religion devoted to the worship of money and dedicated service for it.

    .

  • Anonymous

    Just a little fact to spoil your agenda sport but spending all this money on high tech crap has allowed us to be defeated in every battle since WWII. Do not even begin to think we “won” Iraq because we are there again and gaining nothing as the people hate us more every day. They see right thru us and the republican imperialism that kills so many for nothing gained!

  • Anonymous

    Just a little fact to spoil your agenda sport but spending all this money on high tech crap has allowed us to be defeated in every battle since WWII. Do not even begin to think we “won” Iraq because we are there again and gaining nothing as the people hate us more every day. They see right thru us and the republican imperialism that kills so many for nothing gained!

  • Anonymous

    Just a little fact to spoil your agenda sport but spending all this money on high tech crap has allowed us to be defeated in every battle since WWII. Do not even begin to think we “won” Iraq because we are there again and gaining nothing as the people hate us more every day. They see right thru us and the republican imperialism that kills so many for nothing gained!

  • Anonymous

    Just a little fact to spoil your agenda sport but spending all this money on high tech crap has allowed us to be defeated in every battle since WWII. Do not even begin to think we “won” Iraq because we are there again and gaining nothing as the people hate us more every day. They see right thru us and the republican imperialism that kills so many for nothing gained!

  • Anonymous

    Just a little fact to spoil your agenda sport but spending all this money on high tech crap has allowed us to be defeated in every battle since WWII. Do not even begin to think we “won” Iraq because we are there again and gaining nothing as the people hate us more every day. They see right thru us and the republican imperialism that kills so many for nothing gained!

  • Anonymous

    Just a little fact to spoil your agenda sport but spending all this money on high tech crap has allowed us to be defeated in every battle since WWII. Do not even begin to think we “won” Iraq because we are there again and gaining nothing as the people hate us more every day. They see right thru us and the republican imperialism that kills so many for nothing gained!

  • Anonymous

    Just a little fact to spoil your agenda sport but spending all this money on high tech crap has allowed us to be defeated in every battle since WWII. Do not even begin to think we “won” Iraq because we are there again and gaining nothing as the people hate us more every day. They see right thru us and the republican imperialism that kills so many for nothing gained!

  • Anonymous

    Just a little fact to spoil your agenda sport but spending all this money on high tech crap has allowed us to be defeated in every battle since WWII. Do not even begin to think we “won” Iraq because we are there again and gaining nothing as the people hate us more every day. They see right thru us and the republican imperialism that kills so many for nothing gained!

  • Anonymous

    Just a little fact to spoil your agenda sport but spending all this money on high tech crap has allowed us to be defeated in every battle since WWII. Do not even begin to think we “won” Iraq because we are there again and gaining nothing as the people hate us more every day. They see right thru us and the republican imperialism that kills so many for nothing gained!

  • Anonymous

    Just a little fact to spoil your agenda sport but spending all this money on high tech crap has allowed us to be defeated in every battle since WWII. Do not even begin to think we “won” Iraq because we are there again and gaining nothing as the people hate us more every day. They see right thru us and the republican imperialism that kills so many for nothing gained!

  • Anonymous

    This is the best article i have read in a long time. I wish all Americans could read it and comprehend it. My only problem with what Stockman says is that he said the problem dates to 1990 lol. It started during the Reagan administration.

  • Anonymous

    This is the best article i have read in a long time. I wish all Americans could read it and comprehend it. My only problem with what Stockman says is that he said the problem dates to 1990 lol. It started during the Reagan administration.

  • Anonymous

    This is the best article i have read in a long time. I wish all Americans could read it and comprehend it. My only problem with what Stockman says is that he said the problem dates to 1990 lol. It started during the Reagan administration.

  • Anonymous

    This is the best article i have read in a long time. I wish all Americans could read it and comprehend it. My only problem with what Stockman says is that he said the problem dates to 1990 lol. It started during the Reagan administration.

  • Jim Jones

    Stockman is making a lot of good points. Decrease spending, increase taxes. Duh. If you only want to do one half of the equation you’ll never get the problem under control.

    The bigger issue that Stockman and others fail to discuss is that all of these plans and ideas are based on an assumption that all citizens, politicians, corporations, and multinational organizations are working with a common set of goals.

    We need to face reality and understand that there are people among us who have absolutely no interest in the common good and the future of society. They only care about what they can extract from people today.

  • Jim Jones

    Stockman is making a lot of good points. Decrease spending, increase taxes. Duh. If you only want to do one half of the equation you’ll never get the problem under control.

    The bigger issue that Stockman and others fail to discuss is that all of these plans and ideas are based on an assumption that all citizens, politicians, corporations, and multinational organizations are working with a common set of goals.

    We need to face reality and understand that there are people among us who have absolutely no interest in the common good and the future of society. They only care about what they can extract from people today.

  • Jim Jones

    Stockman is making a lot of good points. Decrease spending, increase taxes. Duh. If you only want to do one half of the equation you’ll never get the problem under control.

    The bigger issue that Stockman and others fail to discuss is that all of these plans and ideas are based on an assumption that all citizens, politicians, corporations, and multinational organizations are working with a common set of goals.

    We need to face reality and understand that there are people among us who have absolutely no interest in the common good and the future of society. They only care about what they can extract from people today.

  • Jim Jones

    Stockman is making a lot of good points. Decrease spending, increase taxes. Duh. If you only want to do one half of the equation you’ll never get the problem under control.

    The bigger issue that Stockman and others fail to discuss is that all of these plans and ideas are based on an assumption that all citizens, politicians, corporations, and multinational organizations are working with a common set of goals.

    We need to face reality and understand that there are people among us who have absolutely no interest in the common good and the future of society. They only care about what they can extract from people today.

  • Jim Jones

    Stockman is making a lot of good points. Decrease spending, increase taxes. Duh. If you only want to do one half of the equation you’ll never get the problem under control.

    The bigger issue that Stockman and others fail to discuss is that all of these plans and ideas are based on an assumption that all citizens, politicians, corporations, and multinational organizations are working with a common set of goals.

    We need to face reality and understand that there are people among us who have absolutely no interest in the common good and the future of society. They only care about what they can extract from people today.

  • Jim Jones

    Stockman is making a lot of good points. Decrease spending, increase taxes. Duh. If you only want to do one half of the equation you’ll never get the problem under control.

    The bigger issue that Stockman and others fail to discuss is that all of these plans and ideas are based on an assumption that all citizens, politicians, corporations, and multinational organizations are working with a common set of goals.

    We need to face reality and understand that there are people among us who have absolutely no interest in the common good and the future of society. They only care about what they can extract from people today.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    I dimly recall that Marx may have had something to say about capitalism’s inevitable implosion. How strange that this debt-based global economy should finally be seen for what it is, too late to do a damn thing except anticipate decline and collapse.

  • Anonymous

    Cutting the defense budget does not have to equate to cutting soldiers. We can start with getting rid of outdated weapons systems and dropping some of the absurd fantasy programs in the DoD. Also, we can negotiate (for once) with DoD contractors instead of continuing to VASTLY OVERPAY for most of what we are already getting. If we just stopped overpaying for what we have we could probably cut the budget by 20% quite quicky without eliminating any jobs. But when defense contractors have politicians in their back pockets this will never happen. Most members of congress have defense contractors that create jobs in their disctricts so it is most congress members interest to keep the sham going. Also, sadly this culture worships the military (literally) so we all tiptoe around what everyone deep down knows – that the military is MUCH more dysfunctional, corrupt and mismanaged than most government agencies (and that isn’t easy to do).

  • Anonymous

    Cutting the defense budget does not have to equate to cutting soldiers. We can start with getting rid of outdated weapons systems and dropping some of the absurd fantasy programs in the DoD. Also, we can negotiate (for once) with DoD contractors instead of continuing to VASTLY OVERPAY for most of what we are already getting. If we just stopped overpaying for what we have we could probably cut the budget by 20% quite quicky without eliminating any jobs. But when defense contractors have politicians in their back pockets this will never happen. Most members of congress have defense contractors that create jobs in their disctricts so it is most congress members interest to keep the sham going. Also, sadly this culture worships the military (literally) so we all tiptoe around what everyone deep down knows – that the military is MUCH more dysfunctional, corrupt and mismanaged than most government agencies (and that isn’t easy to do).

  • Anonymous

    Cutting the defense budget does not have to equate to cutting soldiers. We can start with getting rid of outdated weapons systems and dropping some of the absurd fantasy programs in the DoD. Also, we can negotiate (for once) with DoD contractors instead of continuing to VASTLY OVERPAY for most of what we are already getting. If we just stopped overpaying for what we have we could probably cut the budget by 20% quite quicky without eliminating any jobs. But when defense contractors have politicians in their back pockets this will never happen. Most members of congress have defense contractors that create jobs in their disctricts so it is most congress members interest to keep the sham going. Also, sadly this culture worships the military (literally) so we all tiptoe around what everyone deep down knows – that the military is MUCH more dysfunctional, corrupt and mismanaged than most government agencies (and that isn’t easy to do).

  • Anonymous

    Cutting the defense budget does not have to equate to cutting soldiers. We can start with getting rid of outdated weapons systems and dropping some of the absurd fantasy programs in the DoD. Also, we can negotiate (for once) with DoD contractors instead of continuing to VASTLY OVERPAY for most of what we are already getting. If we just stopped overpaying for what we have we could probably cut the budget by 20% quite quicky without eliminating any jobs. But when defense contractors have politicians in their back pockets this will never happen. Most members of congress have defense contractors that create jobs in their disctricts so it is most congress members interest to keep the sham going. Also, sadly this culture worships the military (literally) so we all tiptoe around what everyone deep down knows – that the military is MUCH more dysfunctional, corrupt and mismanaged than most government agencies (and that isn’t easy to do).

  • Anonymous

    Cutting the defense budget does not have to equate to cutting soldiers. We can start with getting rid of outdated weapons systems and dropping some of the absurd fantasy programs in the DoD. Also, we can negotiate (for once) with DoD contractors instead of continuing to VASTLY OVERPAY for most of what we are already getting. If we just stopped overpaying for what we have we could probably cut the budget by 20% quite quicky without eliminating any jobs. But when defense contractors have politicians in their back pockets this will never happen. Most members of congress have defense contractors that create jobs in their disctricts so it is most congress members interest to keep the sham going. Also, sadly this culture worships the military (literally) so we all tiptoe around what everyone deep down knows – that the military is MUCH more dysfunctional, corrupt and mismanaged than most government agencies (and that isn’t easy to do).

  • Anonymous

    Cutting the defense budget does not have to equate to cutting soldiers. We can start with getting rid of outdated weapons systems and dropping some of the absurd fantasy programs in the DoD. Also, we can negotiate (for once) with DoD contractors instead of continuing to VASTLY OVERPAY for most of what we are already getting. If we just stopped overpaying for what we have we could probably cut the budget by 20% quite quicky without eliminating any jobs. But when defense contractors have politicians in their back pockets this will never happen. Most members of congress have defense contractors that create jobs in their disctricts so it is most congress members interest to keep the sham going. Also, sadly this culture worships the military (literally) so we all tiptoe around what everyone deep down knows – that the military is MUCH more dysfunctional, corrupt and mismanaged than most government agencies (and that isn’t easy to do).

  • Anonymous

    Cutting the defense budget does not have to equate to cutting soldiers. We can start with getting rid of outdated weapons systems and dropping some of the absurd fantasy programs in the DoD. Also, we can negotiate (for once) with DoD contractors instead of continuing to VASTLY OVERPAY for most of what we are already getting. If we just stopped overpaying for what we have we could probably cut the budget by 20% quite quicky without eliminating any jobs. But when defense contractors have politicians in their back pockets this will never happen. Most members of congress have defense contractors that create jobs in their disctricts so it is most congress members interest to keep the sham going. Also, sadly this culture worship