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Bush’s Swiss visit off after complaints on torture

GENEVA (Reuters) – Former U.S. President George W. Bush, under fire from human rights group over allegations of ordering torture, has canceled a visit to Switzerland where he was to address a Jewish charity gala.

Bush was to be the keynote speaker at Keren Hayesod’s annual dinner on February 12 in Geneva. But pressure has been building on the Swiss government to arrest him and open a criminal investigation if he enters the Alpine country.

Criminal complaints against Bush alleging torture have been lodged in Geneva, court officials say, and several human rights groups signaled that they were poised to take further legal action this week.

Swiss officials have said that Bush would still enjoy a certain diplomatic immunity as a former head of state. Leftist groups had also called for a protest on the day of his visit.

Keren Hayesod organizers felt the atmosphere had become too threatening because the protests raised the specter of riots that erupted in the Swiss city during the G8 summit in nearby Evian, the group’s lawyer, Robert Equey, told a Swiss daily.

“We didn’t want to put people and property in Geneva at risk. The gala is maintained but George Bush will not take part,” Equey told the Tribune de Geneve. “The (criminal) complaints did not weigh in the decision.”

Geneva’s chief prosecutor, Daniel Zappelli, has received criminal complaints about torture related to Bush, a court spokesman said. “We received a certain number of complaints. We will make no further comment,” Christophe Tournier told Reuters.

Torture is a crime under international law and human rights experts say the absolute prohibition is very clear.

WATERBOARDING

Bush, in his “Decision Points” memoirs on his 2001-2009 presidency, strongly defends the use of waterboarding, a form of simulated drowning, on terrorism suspects as key to preventing a repeat of the deadly September 11 attacks on the United States.

Most human rights experts consider the practice a form of torture, banned by the Convention on Torture, an international pact prohibiting torture and other cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment or punishment. Switzerland and the United States are among 147 countries to have ratified the 1987 treaty.

Dominique Baettig, a member of the Swiss parliament from the right-wing People’s Party, wrote to the Swiss federal government last week calling for the arrest of Bush for alleged war crimes if he came to the neutral country.

Rights groups had called a news conference in Geneva on Monday where Sami El Hadjj, a former Al Jazeera journalist and former detainee at Guantanamo, was to speak on Bush’s visit.

The World Organization against Torture has said that Switzerland is obliged under both domestic and international law to open an inquiry for acts of torture against any individual on its territory complicit in such crimes.

“There are no laws that provide an exception for former head of states,” it said in a statement on Thursday.

The Geneva-based torture watchdog, which also issued its letter to Swiss President Micheline Calmy-Rey, said that there was a “compelling body of evidence about the U.S. policy of torture and ill-treatment” under the Bush administration.

The United States had not taken any steps to assume its responsibility to carry out a full independent investigation to bring those responsible to justice for torture, it said.

Navi Pillay, U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, has said that the treaty on torture makes clear it is prohibited in all circumstances, including war, instability or emergency.

“And no one is left off the hook — neither the actual torturers themselves, nor the policy-makers and public officials who define the policy or give the orders,” Pillay, a former U.N. war crimes judge, said in a statement marking an international day in support of victims of torture, observed every June.

(Editing by Mark Heinrich)

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Verite-Laide-lImbecile/100000472938032 Vérité Laide l’Imbécile

    Bush should just go back to Crawford and wait to die. He will not be able to leave the country without risking arrest for his war crimes. How long until no ex-president will be able to leave the country?

  • Taleisin

    I am surprised George II would consider risking an overseas trip. But when master calls…….

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Way to go Swiss!!

  • samhoustonTX

    Bush enters his final political spiral down a coward. The mere suggestion that he may be charged and held for murder and torture is enough to send him scurrying back into his hole in Dallas. I suspect that for the rest of his life he will have a plane ready for immediate flight to Paraguay to avoid prosecution.

  • Anonymous

    Right! Bush enjoys the same diplomatic immunity enjoyed by Charles Taylor, Slobodon Milosevic, Augusto Pinochet and other criminal heads of state. Sad to say Bush is personally responsible for violating every single count used to convict the Nazi hierarchy in the Nuremberg trials. Count four “Crimes against humanity,” includes torture.

  • DesertSun59

    It really doesn’t matter. Just like Palin, W is probably baffled about what passports are used for.

  • Anonymous

    LOL!!

  • Anonymous

    I would pay good money to see the man frog-marched somewhere……don’t worry Georgie, those nice Swiss chocolate and clock makers won’t hurt you…..go and enjoy some lovely skiing….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSVG73USMG342DWORQKIEJ6HVQ Bob

    OMG, who would pay to hear this war criminal speak? He should be in jail! What kind of organization would invite him? They must be evil….

  • Phil E. Drifter

    Haha. Bush, having sat as the president of the US, admits to authorizing torture.

    Now he snubs his nose at the jews too.

    Can you say ‘well connected’?

  • hegesias

    Protests? Legal action? Don’t they have American Idle there to distract them?

  • Phil E. Drifter

    Well, obviously… he’s not.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NVKAE5H6DBXJ6SO7MAHH4YUL3A CD

    Wow, so that’s what the potential of justice looks like! Wish we could order up a hefty plate of that around here. I strongly suspect that the Bushco Crime family will be spending the remainder of their days hiding out in this country where “justice” is meted out only to those without connections/trust funds/or CEO on their resumes.

  • Taleisin

    I wouldn’t think of him as the bravest president you’ve had.

  • Anonymous

    There was a woman who was pregnant. Her picture was taken when she worked in the Abu Gharib prison in Iraq. She was sentenced to prison because of that picture. She carried the sins of the United States on her shoulders while Bush Jr the architect of the torture program walks around bragging he tortured.

    In Saudi Arabia the royal family breaks the law. The enforcers of the law look the other way and go after the powerless.

    Is there a difference between Saudi Arabia and the United States? The answer is no.

    Winning the battle of guns in the American Revolution didn’t mean we won the Revolution. The Conservatives made sure we didn’t win. The real test of whether we won is when no man is above the law.

    Once again the proof we lost the American Revolution. Bush Jr is walking around free and a simple pregnant woman had to take the punishment that Bush Jr should be taking.

    You don’t need to travel to Saudi Arabia to know what it’s like there.

  • Anonymous

    It’s says something when right wing members of a political party in a neutral country ask for Bush’s arrest. What is says is that Bush makes Idi Amin look moderate.

  • Anonymous

    He’s just a coward.
    Here in America he brags about torturing people, but gets cold feet about saying these same things where he will be prosecuted.

    Bush/Cheney and most of their regressive asshole administration are some of the biggest war criminal scumbags that walk free on the planet today. Fucking pure scum!

  • Anonymous

    He is the biggest coward president in American history, Reagan is right behind him.

  • Taleisin

    I thought launching a war on ‘This man tried to kill my Daddy’, a bit weak.
    Why Reagan?

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps Mr. Bush should stop in Spain for a few days on his way to Switzerland. The Spanish courts don’t seem shy about holding war criminals accountable.

  • Taleisin

    A Jewish ‘Charity’, evil? Never!

  • Anonymous

    Reagan is the most over rated POTUS ever.
    I’ve gotta go now, but I can explain later.

    Reagan sucked ass, America is hurting because of that fucking pile of shit. Most of our problems can be blamed on him.

  • http://twitter.com/Howieisright Howieisright

    And yet torture is still happening today. Hate to break it to you guys.
    I can not believe Bush would miss an appointment with his fellow Talmud reading AIPAC buddies.

  • Anonymous

    An international criminal AND a coward – GOPs behold your beloved Bush!

  • Anonymous

    When will this petty tyrant be drug from his spider hole to face the consequences of his crimes?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    GWB ~ WAR CRIMINAL & GENOCIDER ! ! !

  • Anonymous

    Too fucking bad! He is a war criminal and should be in prison.

    He can’t even hang out with his Zionist friends, even though he licked their balls throughout his criminal tenure as unelected president.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    What kinda IGNORANT Jahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos are they !

    or could they have an ulterior motive ?

  • http://biscuits007.wordpress.com/ skulzwerks design studios

    Incurious George will NEVER be able to set foot outside Amerika again. Gosh, that’s sad. How utterly immoral that the US would cover for the Bushco war criminals.
    Hey Eric Holder? Can you say craven and servile? How about pandering whore…
    Someday George, someday you’re going to have to stand trial for all the nastiness you unleashed on our world.

  • I. M. Agoste

    Doesn’t Paraguay have an extradition treaty with Spain? I don’t think Bush will be leaving for Paraguay any time soon.

  • Anonymous

    “Most human rights experts consider the practice a form of torture, banned by the Convention on Torture, an international pact prohibiting torture and other cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment or punishment. Switzerland and the United States are among 147 countries to have ratified the 1987 treaty.”

    Can the author of this article, or the editors of Raw, or any reader of Raw name one “human rights expert” that does not consider water boarding to be torture?

  • lance peeples

    Correction to the story: Waterboarding is not “simulated” drowning, it is CONTROLLED drowning. If continued it results in death by drowning.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/XZOZFUWR3YKJ25ZUAQQZWO7R6I SR

    Why isnt the world brave enough to arrest this criminal where he resides? Few other former heads of state get a free pass for their crimes, so why the special exception for heads of state of major western countries?

  • Anonymous

    I wish Vince Bugliosi could get a hold of him.

    He already said he would prosecute him for war crimes and murder if even one states Attorney General would bring the charges.

    Are any of you cowards charged with upholding the principals of law listening? You all make me sick.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if he’s managed to “fill the old coffers” like he was planning to. The smirking monster seriously thought people would pay to hear him talk? He can’t get a single grammatically correct sentence out. And now he’s looking at jail time if he travels outside the US. That makes me so fucking ecstatically happy. I hope there comes a day when all Americans spit at the mention of his name.

  • Anonymous

    Who’s going to risk trying to kidnap him here? That’s the problem, really. The Western countries have all the guns and bombs. Nobody wants to lose their life to capture this worthless war criminal. He’s OUR problem. I wish someone would be brave enough to arrest him right here in the US.

  • Anonymous

    Bush is not snubbing his nose at the Jews. He is evading prosecution by avoiding civilized jurisdictions, which is what all major war criminals try to do.

    What concerns me is that the Jewish charity invited Bush as though he were a good guy.

  • Anonymous

    The ulterior motive would be that they don’t want to condone torture. It’s kind of a human decency thing.

  • Anonymous

    The Swiss should have just kept their mouths shut until the criminal bastard actually showed up
    with all his books to sell, and then arrest him forthright in plain view of the press so all the world
    could see and rejoice.

  • Anonymous

    It seems to me that this reflects on the Obama administration just as much if not more. His lack of interest in holding the former administration accountable for ANYTHING, appears cowardly and self-serving.
    And I voted for Obama.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Surprise Georgie…outside of the echo chamber…away from the tiny clique of people who never tell you anything that contradicts your worldview…the entire world remembers every searing detail of the horror you unleashed on the world. Rove and Rummy and the rest will applaud you…but everyone, everywhere, all around the world…knows that you are a war criminal on par with every evil amoral head of state the world has ever endured. Stay in Texas…its the last barbaric sh*thole left that will tolerate your stench.

  • Anonymous

    “Most human rights experts consider the practice a form of torture,”

    Which ones do not consider water-boarding torture? And how did they get qualified as a human rights expert?

  • Anonymous

    Damn! Why did the Swiss warn him? It would be so nice if some one in this world had the guts to go after bush and his henchmen. The only problem with going after him is the fact that Obama has continued on so many of the bush’s policies he too should not travel out of the U.S. Most countries that followed bush into war are guilty of the same things. So I seriously doubt if any of the players in bush/cheney’s wet dream will ever get their just dessert. Not in this lifetime anyway.

  • Anonymous

    “Swiss officials have said that Bush would still enjoy a certain diplomatic immunity as a former head of state.”

    There you go kids, that says it all. Heads of state are immune from the law. Not exactly a revelation but still infuriating. Again, the law is for we the “little” people, not heads of state.

  • http://about.me/GLComputing GLComputing

    The ones paid by the US govt and others (like Egypt) who torture on behalf of the US

  • http://about.me/GLComputing GLComputing

    From Nixon on… administrations have always been reluctant to go after their predecessor. Probably to protect themselves when they make the same decisions

  • Anonymous

    He didn’t buy that big bunch of land in Paraguay for nothing…

    http://www.counterpunch.org/cp10202006.html

  • http://twitter.com/HarringtonsRomp Sam McKee

    Let us be perfectly clear here. Obama INC has successfully achieved foreign and domestic policy continuity with the BushCheney Crime Syndicate. His policies have not deviated A WHIT from that of the collection of thieves, liars and sadistic champions of torture and war profiteers! Therefore: Obama INC & ALL members of the DLC = BushCheney Crime Syndicate.

  • http://twitter.com/HarringtonsRomp Sam McKee

    Let us be perfectly clear here. Obama INC has successfully achieved foreign and domestic policy continuity with the BushCheney Crime Syndicate. His policies have not deviated A WHIT from that of the collection of thieves, liars and sadistic champions of torture and war profiteers! Therefore: Obama INC & ALL members of the DLC = BushCheney Crime Syndicate.

  • Anonymous

    they sold the Crawford place . . it was just a scam to show the public what a cowboy he was pretending to be. . and he don’t go to church either . .and he is currently listed as a deserter from the military in time of war.

  • Anonymous

    nope

  • Anonymous

    He shouldn’t have invited him in the first place!! I’m gonna check out this Keren Hayesod person and see what can be done to get them some sweetly bad publicity

  • http://twitter.com/HarringtonsRomp Sam McKee

    I posted my comment on my Twitter acct yet my name is revealed. Not that I give a damn, Just trying to figure out what is happening with FB and t posting and logging in…

  • Anonymous

    Honor among thieves….

  • http://www.rawstory.com/ Mark (MarkusGarvey) Estrada

    If you link your Disqus account to Twitter, Facebook, etc, Disqus will only parse for the username the first time, so if you change your name on FB or Twitter it will not change on Disqus. If you create a Disqus account that is not connected to FB or Twitter, you can change your username whenever to whatever you want. Markus, Raw moderator

  • Anonymous

    “Most human rights experts consider the practice a form of torture, banned by the Convention on Torture, an international pact prohibiting torture and other cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment or punishment. ”

    Most? I wonder if Reuters can find those other “human rights experts” that think water boarding doesn’t amount to torture.

    Unless Reuters qualifies people like Dick F’ng Cheney as a human rights expert.

    But why should I pick on Reuters afterall? Few if any “journalists” will just say the T word.

  • Anonymous

    Poor G.W….now he’ll have to send Laura or Papa..to make that personal withdrawl from his Swiss Bank account

  • Anonymous

    Arrest him and take him to The Hague! He even admitted in his book that he ordered torture. He bragged about doing it!

  • Knot

    I wonder if he’s managed to “fill the old coffers” like he was planning to.

    His dad is ancient, and extremely wealthy. Being a war profiteer while your son is a war president pays pretty good. Once Poppy takes a dirt nap, young Georgie will be able to fill swimming pools full of virgins and fountains full of champagne. If the shit really hits the fan and some damn bleeding hearts come gunning for him, there is always Dubai waiting for him with his favorite band ‘Erik Prince and The Privateers’ waiting to serenade him and give his blood treasure a vault to live in.

  • Anonymous

    Charles Taylor was a former head of state.
    Neat little precedent?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, but Daddums knows Georgie is bad with money (he’s lost more than most people will ever earn in their lifetimes), and he’s got at least three other boys waiting to get their hands on that cash, plus numerous grandchildren, nieces, nephews, grandnieces and nephews, and, now, great-grandkids. Plus, if you’re talking about the Carlyle Group money, I don’t think that’s slated for li’l Georgie. That’s family money held in trust for the entire extended clan.

  • http://twitter.com/putzschreibfr wn030-21

    yeah, great news. btw k. olberman’s show about european view of bush landed on sev pages upfront, also on pages like http://infam.antville.org/stories/2041847/

  • Anonymous

    What, no balls to go to Switzerland and then say, “Bring it on” concerning that country arresting you for committing War Crimes?

    What a pussy, but then we knew that from his going AWOL and running away from his National Guard contract, and, refusing to serve in Vietnam.

  • Anonymous

    You didn’t break it to “you guys”, most people know that the torture has never stopped.

  • http://twitter.com/august9 august9

    “Waterboarding” is too lenient for arab scum. The same human rights goons thought Adolf Hitler wasn’t mudering Jewish men,women and children. More torture for those that are hiding behind reliigion while they stone women to death.

  • ghostof911

    He owns property in Paraguay. If things start to get warm for him here he’ll head to Paraguay since that country does not have an extradition treaty with the US.

    These reports suggest the these actions being taken by the Bush Family are in response to the expected War Crime Charges being filed by the International Committee for the Red Cross.

    The ties between the Bush Family Cartel and Paraguay predate the current American President and have their roots going back to his grandfather Prescott Bush, the top American financier for the German Nazi Regime.

    http://www.thepowerhour.com/news2/bush_paraguay.htm

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WDCRZLG2KHQVYSWCN4POSUAKWU Michelle Beach

    And Evildoer..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WDCRZLG2KHQVYSWCN4POSUAKWU Michelle Beach

    Reagan the “B” Movie Actor, was an amazing Mouthpiece. Arnold Schwarzenegger could never pull off what Reagan did.
    Maybe the next Hollywood Mouth Piece could be this Guy.He was great as POTUS in “24″.
    And hes a got Great Charisma, and a Very Credible Speaking Voice.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Haysbert
    The Democrats could Deploy him as the Next Black “Fake Savior”.

  • Gnat K. Coal

    I hope the people of the United States make sure that that vile, inbred villain NEVER leaves our country ever again.

    If he cannot be prosecuted HERE, then we MUST make sure he cannot ESCAPE.

  • Anonymous

    He sucks ass too!
    I don’t vote for dems or gop, two parties full of clowns with very few exceptions.

  • ghostof911

    If the US ever elects a president with a real pair in his scrotum, he can seize the entire assets of the Bush crime family, as FDR seized the assets of granddaddy Prescott in 1942.

    His (Prescott Bush’s) business dealings, which continued until his company’s assets were seized (by FDR) in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charlotte-Stevens/1416795464 Charlotte Stevens

    Bush should be jailed immediatly if he leaves this country, for War Crimes against Humanity, since we don’t have the intestinal fortitude to do so here in the United States.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charlotte-Stevens/1416795464 Charlotte Stevens

    Bush should NEVER be permitted to leave this country until he is prosecuted for War Crimes against Humanity, since we in the US don’t have the intestinal fortitude to do so. Also, any nation in this world should immediately imprison him upon arrival

  • ghostof911

    The tip-off wasn’t intentional. Apparently there was a leak.

    “Some how it seems that it has leaked and lo and behold, W suddenly can’t attend and the event is being canceled.”

    http://my.firedoglake.com/somethingthedogsaid/2011/02/04/water-cooler-breaking-ccr-and-eccrhr-to-file-torture-case-against-george-w-bush/

  • ghostof911

    The President is bound by the Constitution to uphold the law of the land, and the law of US includes international treaties with which the US has signed. Because he is not in compliance with the Geneva Conventions that the US has signed, Obama could be impeached for failing to comply with his presidential oath.

  • Jaimie11

    All hat and no cattle.

  • ghostof911

    Augusto Pinochet of Chile was pursued by a number of European countries for human rights violations years after he was removed from office.

    On October 8, 1999 a court in England ruled that Augusto Pinochet, the former president of Chile, could be sent to Spain to face a criminal trial for human rights abuses. The Spanish prosecutor was joined by prosecutors from France, Belgium and Switzerland who say that Chileans living in those countries have relatives who were killed during Pinochet’s rule which began in 1973 and ended in 1990.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/july-dec99/humanrights.html

  • Jaimie11

    The entire world will spit at mention of his name.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    LOL.

    Now this is some sweet irony. The Swiss are the assholes who didn’t want to settle up with Jews over Jews’ stolen assets they took in from the Nazis.

    The Swiss are the last people on the face of this planet who need the wag the finger at others about war crimes.

  • enorceht

    i think donny rummy is only wanted in germany, spain, and france, maybe bu$h should send him

  • enorceht

    i think we should let him leave and not let him back in … if the u$ is not going to prosecute him then let the rest of the world have “fun” with it

  • Anonymous

    I could be happy with that. Or the other.

  • Anonymous

    Well, not too long after he bought that big ol’ aquifer-bordering land, Paraguay dumped their dictator for a more enlightened, pro-democracy type who promptly signed extradition treaties that might render Paraguay none too safe a haven for Incurious George.

  • Anonymous

    I know I have at least heard this from somewhere, Possession is 9/10ths of the law. I’m sure there were, like today, stolen identity. Besides, you should up the Bush history, rumor has it, the family had a patriarch, doing business with Nazis, before, during and (well there could have been “an afterwards”), for some people concerning money, dealing with the devil is no problem for someone with no morals or scruples.

  • hourglass1

    all of america’s war criminals had better think twice about leaving their borders … eventually, maybe even america will do something about their burgeoning population of war criminals and financial supporters.

    hope springs eternal …

  • enorceht

    good thing the death tax wasn’t repealed, daddy’s money will come in real handy

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    Besides, you should up the Bush history, rumor has it, the family had a patriarch, doing business with Nazis

    You’re thinking of Prescott Bush.

    The ADL, of all groups, says the charges of Prescott being a Nazi or Nazi Sympathizer are BS.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Zentrails/100001475536421 Bob Zentrails

    Bush would be wish to stick with the good ol state of Texas. Seems like everywhere else in the World they want to charge him with torture, and rightly so, even though it was Chaney that ordered it.

    And I said “that” instead of “who” on purpose.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Zentrails/100001475536421 Bob Zentrails

    I’m sorry, but there is a huge difference between crimes against property and crimes against people.

  • Anonymous

    At lease Bush knows the USA and all the American citizens hail him as a hero and the best President the US has ever had just ask any Republican Law Maker. America calls Obama the worst President in US history but sees George W. Bush has the best we ever could have had. What does the World know we like everything Bush did for 8 years and want more that’s why we elected Republicans back in control and will elect a Republican President in 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Do you honestly think a guy like Bush WANTS to leave the good ole USA? He couldnt give a shit about the rest of the world…. He’s a good ole boy, via New England. ‘murica’s good’nuff fo George. Hell, they dont even play proper sports in Switzerlaand.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    Oh, so working with Nazis is A-OK in your world. Got it.

  • dk504

    First Kissinger wanted to leave the country and couldn’t(boo-hoo kitty), he knows if he leaves the states 1/2 the countries in the world would fight to get their hands on him. And now the Shrub, by the Swiss no less, such irony. Go on vacation Georgey, go.

  • http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

    Prescott Bush was the day to day operations manager of Union Bank Corp and Brown Brothers Harriman when their primary client was Fritz Thyssen, chief of the Vereinigte Stahlwerke (United Steel Works, the cartel of all iron, steel and coal concerns in pre- and wartime Germany). They provided a good 50% of the iron and steel the Nazi war machine used, and those two banks were their shippers and money launderers, thence the Bush family fortune. Their lawyers were two brothers named Dulles, whose primary employer was Sullivan & Cromwell. During the war, Allen Dulles ran his OSS operations out of Bern, Switzerland, while the Pope (Pacelli, aka Pius XII) was running his ratlines through Switzerland, especially near the end, when the Bormann Capital Flight (lots of gold, in particular) was making its way to Argentina and Uruguay, along with many supposedly dead Nazis.

    Dulles later as DCI presided over Project Paperclip, bringing top Nazi scientists and spies into the US government. When the trove of papers belonging to Nazi banker Karl Blessing came under the purview of a young Navy officer named Richard Nixon, Dulles took him under his wing as did Prescott Bush. If those papers had come to light, both Dulles brothers would have stood in the dock at Nuremberg for complicity in the Nazi crimes.

  • Anonymous

    I really hope you’re pulling our leg. Everyone here knows Bush is a war criminal and should be brought up on charges as well as his puppet master Dick Cheney.

  • Taleisin

    Thanks for the article. That was an eyeopener. Won’t he be lonely in Paraguay?
    I thought all the Nazis went to live in Argentina.

  • http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

    Right. Lock him out in the cold!

  • http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

    Not to mention the destruction of half a million Iraqi children by the (admittedly Newt enforced) Clinton/Albright sanctions on the pre- end.

    (Mais où sont les neiges d’antan?)

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Everyone should go to this site and read the comments from Bush lovers who are hating on libs/progressives and trying to blame the American/European left for these attacks on Bush:
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/142289-bush-cancels-swiss-visit-under-threat-of-protests-efforts-to-arrest-him

  • http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

    And Jack Straw snuck in at the last minute and bailed out “the poor sickly old man”

  • Guest

    GW truly thinks that he is above any laws, because, you know, he says God talked to him and told him to invade Iraq, and I guess to torture as well. He thinks that he was chosen by God to be the President. I think the SCOTUS had something to do with it.
    I really don’t like him blaming God for his own twisted actions.
    Someday, he will have to face the consequences for the terrible human misery he has caused, in Afghanistan, Iraq, and here in the U.S.

  • http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

    But not a beloved state. More a contemned state like Haiti, whose popular president was roughly snatched from office and dumped in the desert in Africa without so much as a word of apology (not to excuse Taylor the monster, or equate him with Aristide. Merely to point out that “our monsters” are OK, but those we merely use as pawns will eventually be thrown to the lions, like Noriega.)

  • Anonymous

    Excellent point. I am always furious when I read that “simulated” crap. It is NOT pretend drowning, it’s goddamned DROWNING.

  • http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

    The split-screen

  • http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

    Impeached by the Bush supporters for failing to arrest Bush? That’ll happen

  • Anonymous

    Notice how each former President travels the World and welcomed. Even Daddy Bush is welcome overseas yet George W. Bush is only welcome in Texas and other patches of states. Those who want to make Bush somebody important should understand the World isn’t as easy to trick or fool as Americans. You can’t make the World accept and welcome a War Criminal just because he was a Republican President that some want to excuse his actions.

  • Anonymous

    If you ever get to go over there, shrub, ask them if they ever got their art back from the swiss:

    Goering swapped ‘decadent’ impressionists for German old masters One woman’s hunt for family treasures

    LOOTED ART treasures stolen from Jews and now worth up to £15 billion were sent by Nazi Germany for safe-keeping in Switzerland during the Second World War, according to declassified British and American documents. Official papers lodged at the Public Record Office in Kew, west London, and in national archives in Washington show that many of the paintings, plundered from France, the Benelux countries and Eastern Europe, allegedly entered Switzerland in German diplomatic bags. Others were lodged in the Swiss freeports and those uncollected after the war will have become Swiss government property.

    http://www.museum-security.org/ww2/diversen.html

    What is that old saying: Birds of a feather flock together

  • Winski

    Shame.. Interpol could have snatched him in Geneva and whisked him off to a cell at the Hague to wait for his WAR CRIMES TRIAL…

  • iRead

    Switzerland should follow the lead of the USA, and crank up an ‘extraordinary rendition’ program.

    What’s good for the goose…

  • Anonymous

    Yes I”m making fun but listening to Republicans and some Tea Party members hail the idiot it’ fun to join in the circus for a few minutes. I’m back on thanks.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FONW6K3ZWV4BU4ZTCDCSZHHH6E Mick Jagger

    Arrest that jerk for committing crimes against humanity in our name.

  • Anonymous

    Thats not bad. Bush and cronies murder well over 100,000 people, over 4000 Americ soldiers, over a 1000 American co9ntractors and he still has “A certain diplomatic immunity as a former head of state” I got to go there. Julian aught to go there!

  • Anonymous

    They turned a blind eye to hitler, why not another mass murderer.

  • Anonymous

    You’re an idiot. Women enjoyed equality under Hussein. He was a brutal dictator but women and all children got education and women could work. But once Bush/Cheney got hold of the country and had them write a crappy Constitution and put the Sunni’s in charge, suddenly women have no rights to work or to education and DO get stoned to death. Maybe you should think before you speak… In addition, Iraq is now friends with our enemies in Iran – they were enemies before. it was Bush who set that country back 30 years.

  • Anonymous

    I think it was one of those stings… Like when they call criminals to tell them they won something and then arrest them when they show up.

  • Elim

    She can once again tell Jewish people how much she loves Israel, like she did during the debate with Biden.

  • Guest

    “Most human rights experts consider the practice [waterboarding] a form of torture…”

    Unprofessional garbage from the Fourth Estate, now so inured to its own blather that such illogical statements are commonplace, conventional.

    What is more, this kind of nonsense lives on years after the act should have been defined, could have been defined, easily, by consulting international law if not one’s own common sense.

    You and I and the waterboarders know waterboarding is “simulated drowning”, but the detainee does not. The detainee is made to believe he or she is being killed. That makes it torture, period, no question.

    Or is it that the writer is blending the question of whether a government might torture a terrorism suspect with the definition of the act?

    Perhaps the writer is another of the legion of jackass Americans who cannot think for his- or herself. But then, that would make him or her unqualified for the job, because legions of Americans can be as dim as they care to be, but a journalist cannot.

    Why hasn’t the so-called ‘journalist’ made him- or herself an expert for the purpose of defining the act? After all, that is what the job entails, writing the ‘journal’ of the happenings of our times, which requires one to define the happenings such that they are placed in historical context.

    What constitutes a “human rights expert”?

    How many of them are there, either precisely or a ballpark figure?

    What percentage of ‘all’ constitutes ‘most’?

    What fraction of the whole forces or allows the writer to use the clause ‘most’?

    Who are the “human rights experts” that do not consider it torture, tricking a detainee into believing he or she is being killed?

    This is basic journalism 101: there is no excuse for glossing over the very center of the matter, the definition.

  • Taleisin

    A bit like candid camera? That would be cool to watch on TV.

  • Guest

    What is President Bunnypants doing still walking the streets free?

  • http://twitter.com/adamluebke Adam Michael Luebke

    “You mean Bush actually tortured people?” The fat man was bewildered and hurt. I felt sorry for him. “I liked Bush. He was a real American. I thought.” My interview with an ex-Bush fiend:

    http://tinyurl.com/6y64qef

  • http://twitter.com/Howieisright Howieisright

    Yep but most here agree with Obama thus justified “You guys”

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a case for States Rights. Wouldn’t it be ironic if when crossing from Texas to Oklahoma, Bush were to be apprehende­d on charges of Violation of Human Rights and the Convention­s Against Torture to which these individual States are bound by treaty to enforce as members of the Union.

  • http://twitter.com/Howieisright Howieisright

    When Hitler nationalized the banks in 1933, international Jewry declared war and started an international boycott of Germany. The Germans were the least antisemitic of the Europeans. Yiddish is just a dialect of German.

  • Anonymous

    Yay!

  • Anonymous

    Ask George about his time in Vermont.

    http://warisacrime.org/node/31522

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FONW6K3ZWV4BU4ZTCDCSZHHH6E Mick Jagger

    Bush, Cheney….and now it appears Clinton and Obama deserve the same treatment Mubarek is getting…they live on the suffering of good,decent people like parasites and vampires feeding on the blood of the innocent.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FONW6K3ZWV4BU4ZTCDCSZHHH6E Mick Jagger

    HUFFINGTON POST IS TOTAL GARBAGE NEOCON RIGHT OF CENTER CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They even warned vegans not to comment on their super bowl meat dishes article…what a bunch of scared worse than PC puppies…they have become a joke afraid of their own shadow and should go away. They can moderate my ass!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jochen-Reier/100000711672318 Jochen Reier

    I wish someone would be brave enough to arrest him right here in the US? Not without giving him a nice little splash of water boarding first….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jochen-Reier/100000711672318 Jochen Reier

    I wish someone would be brave enough to arrest him right here in the US? OK, but not without giving him a nice little splash of waterboarding first… well, he supposed it for the terrorists, isn’t it? He quickly would admit about his involvement in 9/11 and on and on. There you are in the USA, a senior terrorist was your President! I wonder how your history books would smooth this one.

  • http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

    The many Warburg bankers on both sides of the Atlantic funded both sides in WWII. War is very profitable. Here’s an interesting article — Wall Street funded Nazis

  • Anonymous

    Even this otherwise-well written article falls for the Neocon Narrative that waterboarding is “simulated” drowning.

    There’s nothing simulated about it, and it is actual drowning. If it is continued without break, the victim will die. That is no simulation.

  • BuzzCoastin

    Catch him with some pot in his pocket and he may get life with no chance of parole.

  • http://caveat.pcriot.com/ George

    I have noticed more and more people posting here on Raw story. People are getting tired of the censorship and you see more people complaining about it including myself. They have become insignificant to me and it’s shame because some people on there had some good sense. That’s okay though because I usually see stories here a day or two before they would show up on HP. Their loss!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jochen-Reier/100000711672318 Jochen Reier

    What I did not hear from you in all this interesting conversation, the US-Governments never acknowledged the International Court in Hague – just to protect their own war criminals.
    To Bush’s forced cancellation of his trip to Geneva I have to say, alone this is a first class humiliation and deep shame for him, as he is the first ex-president in US-History being practical locked away – even Texas is damn big for a jailhouse. But keep tracking folks, get him on his balls and as I said earlier, try some waterboarding on him first and all the truth will come alight.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    The FUCKIN corporate MEDIA Neglected at numerous times

    to warn the American people of

    THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY

    and must never be trusted again.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LEUDUVF5EGJZRZETF3KV53P7BQ Thomas

    This is exactly the reason as to why I canceled my account at h-p. I also noticed that another poster who had thousands of fans has also canceled. I won’t give her name. I hope she starts posting here. She had some good things to say. As for Bush, I think he smells fear. It’s coming from him. He’s afraid that he will end up like the ones in Gitmo who conveniently committed suicide.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTnYCg8v8o Bamboo_Harvester

    Mick Jagger ~ there are many things and right wingers that they protected…
    For fear of law suits ….. ie you cant say FASCIST without going through a censor and
    koch bros … sarah_palin … billo the bully … beck … limbaugh … laura “the kunt” ingraham

  • Anonymous

    He’s still a “misunderestimated’ man.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know if you expect any sympathy for Israel and it’s “stolen treasures” after their genocide against Palestinian people. You’ve lost the right to claim anything.

  • Anonymous

    I thought he liked to clear some brush….

    You know, every kids favorite thing to do…

    Seriously, who the fuck says they like to clear brush?

  • Anonymous

    HOw will he reap what he’s sown, by sitting in the USA. All of his foreign buddies owe him BIG TIME!

  • Anonymous

    Interestingly, I think Vermont was the only state that Bush never visited while in office (although he may have actually popped in after a news story came out pointing out that fact)….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LJMNZL5KJFX2H5CKWK2S75HU7I Kevin

    Well then Obama should expect the same.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t other countries just send over covet agents to snatch our malefactors back to their countries for justice, or are we the only ones allowed to do that?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LJMNZL5KJFX2H5CKWK2S75HU7I Kevin

    Bush and Obama- two peas is a pod, but go on and pretend it isn’t so.

  • Anonymous

    You assume most agree with Obama.
    A couple of dorks like Kevin agree, but not many more.

  • Anonymous

    I think bush got scared when he realized he would have to go through the airport scanner and it would show under his clothes he’s really a chicken.
    The world deserves answers before these neocon traitors die as to what he was told was happening on 911 when the neocon plan was initiated. cheney knows.

  • http://www.BaltimoreGreenCurrency.org Shrapnel

    Google “operation Paperclip”

  • Anonymous

    dude wouldn’t last 10 seconds under a pitcher of water. He’d cave like a 2 dollar wh0re in front of a 10 dollar bill.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, and the reason the Congress ignored the Hague is because they would have to include themselves in the investigation. What we need is a panel of The People whose only job at Congress would be to investigate and present their findings to a court whose only job is to judge those in power.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DFXO2MOOZP6HUJJIE7OEZD2LVE Allen

    Arrest and prosecute Bush as a War Criminal. And a Traitor in the first degree.

  • Mac and Sandy

    I am very disappointed in HP – I used to read it regularly since 2007
    I occasionally have posted a comment or two – I’m not a “power user” etc.

    I’m a little old lady – not inflammatory in her language – however I did say in a post
    “old white guys” (geeze I’m married to one) and got in “trouble” after that.
    I have to wonder about an organization like HP that worries so much that much about the comments and builds a whole social power structure on it’s users…

    Are they worried about their image or that the feds are monitoring the internet these days?
    Just my thoughts

  • http://www.myspace.com/dermezel Megaprole

    One thing not acknowledged is how this latest GOP induced economic crisis increased the starvation rates for millions of already struggling people in the Third World.

    Meanwhile all the people responsible (Bush, Cheney, Goldman) never have to go to bed hungry a day in their lives.

  • Anonymous

    And he is afraid of horses.

  • Anonymous

    That was to make his image more like Reagans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lon-Warneke/1409625620 Lon Warneke

    Maybe he should just fall out of the plane on the way there.

  • Anonymous

    Those who have experienced simulated waterboarding have said they couldn’t take it for more than a minute or so. I’m just amazed that neither George nor Dick ever volunteered to show that it was never really torture. I wouldn’t even have minded if they’d used that evil sod, Rumsfeld, as the test subject.

  • DriveBy

    Bush has the FREEDOM to travel wherever they do not hold human rights abusers and war criminals accountable…. anywhere within the United States, for example.

  • Anonymous

    **Baby George is showing caution? Fucker’s not as dumb as he looks.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TF72KWIG5DGSPE3ZXDK6FX4KTQ Robert Burned

    One thing you can say about Bush: he ducks good.

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    I rode a tank
    Held a general’s rank
    When the Blitzkrieg raged
    And the bodies stank

  • Anonymous

    Let us not forget that the American constitution is still “suspended”. Obama has done nothing to restore democratic values. In fact, he has broken his promise to close Guantanamo, increased illegal drone attacks, and concluded a number of controversial arms deals with inhumane regimes such as Saudi Arabia.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEGzymT4PWA

  • ghostof911

    Although Josef Mengele settled in Paraguay, other Nazis settled both in Argentina and Paraguay.

    http://www.thesmartset.com/article/article02050801.aspx

    http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2491/whats-the-true-story-on-south-american-nazis

  • ghostof911

    What actually happened to the poor sickly old man was not as important as the fact that the truth came out.

    Similarly, it does not really matter what happens to “no heartbeat” Dick Cheney as long as the world learns that he was one of the principal masterminds of the 9/11 attack on the United States.

  • ghostof911

    The Democrats did not impeach Bush when they had the opportunity to because they had as much blood on their hands as Bush did. Agreed that the Republicans will never impeach because they couldn’t be happier with the Bush clone who’s a better trained monkey than the original version.

  • http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

    But learn it with certainty an not vaguely

  • http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

    Irrespective of what Obama’s inner processes are, it must be acknowledged that presidents have been more circumspect about challenging the Deep State since Nov. ’63. Remember how easily those uninvited guests, the Salafis, waltzed their way around to all the famous folks at the White House gala? That was a telegram from the Pentagon, of whom a low-level member was the only pass they needed in the door, a telegram that read: “Security? You have none — remember that.”

  • ghostof911

    You rate a Like for that reply.

  • ghostof911

    With Obama, I believe it’s more than his being “circumspect.” I believe he is infected with the Deep State disease, because he seems to relish the role he’s playing with respect to his “colleagues” at Langley.

    http://cryptome.org/info/obama-cia/obama-cia.htm

    There are some gaps in his CV which, if uncovered, could prove to be very revealing.

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