George Will: The tea party is the Republican establishment

By David Edwards
Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:12 EDT
 

Conservative columnist George Will says that Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry doesn’t need to worry about the “Republican establishment” derailing his campaign because they have been co-opted by the tea party.

“A lot of establishment Republicans worrying that [Perry] might give the plot away, do you think that is that a legitimate concern or can he come up and be a credible nominee?” ABC’s Christiane Amanpour asked presidential historian Michael Beschloss Sunday.

“I think he might well be nominated,” Beschloss predicted. “Because this is the year that Republicans think they’re going to have a very good chance to elect a president, they don’t have to be so careful… The more optimistic Republicans are about victory, the more likely they are to go with someone who is as full blooded a conservative as Perry is.”

“There is no Republican establishment,” Will interrupted. “Google the Republican establishment, you’ll get 20 million hits. Google the Loch Ness monster and you’ll get a whole bunch of hits. They’re both dead or never existed.”

“There is a tea party and many say they are outside the establishment,” Amanpour noted.

“They are the establishment today,” Will explained. “In fact, the Republican establishment died at the Cow Palace in San Francisco in 1964 when Goldwater was nominated against their frenzied wishes.”

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  • Anonymous

    No george, the tea party is the tea party, representing the most reprehensible faction of the extreme right wing. 
    barack obama caters to the mainstream of the republican party. He certainly does not cater to the interests of progressives, or even liberals.

  • Anonymous

    I knew that if I just lived long enough … George “Vietnam Chickenhawk” Will would SOME DAY be right about something.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t much care about either the GOP or tea party.  The are all a bunch of scum who believe that the United States goverment exists only to increase their wealth and the wealth of their Wall Street and corporate friends.  They care nothing for the rest of us and bascially just wish we would die or fade away!  Will is wrong – the GOP has been dead for years but no one has told the old fossils yet.

  • Anonymous

    There is a fungus that drives insects mad.Once the fungus invades its victim’s body, it’s already too late. The invader spreads through the host in a matter of days. The victim, unaware of what is happening, becomes driven to climb to a high spot. Just before dying, the infected body—a zombie—grasps a perch as the mature fungal invader erupts from the back of the zombie’s head to rain down spores on unsuspecting victims below, starting the cycle again. This isn’t the latest gross-out moment from a George A. Romero horror film; it is part of a very real evolutionary arms race between a parasitic fungus and its victims, ants.Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/The-Scariest-Zombies-in-Nature.html#ixzz1YKOF1e2V
    Republicans are the insects and the tea party is the fungus,

  • Anonymous

    I was a callow twelve year old when I had my first and, essentially last, experience with first-hand politics, in San Francisco, at the Cow Palace. I watched as the thuggish boors from the Right Wing of the Republican Party humiliated Nelson Rockefeller. Rockefeller was a family friend, and I personally believe he could have been our greatest President. The Lunatic Fringe extremists did a competent hatchet job, the only job at which these people excel. Now, they seem to think that they control all Republicans and their votes. I believe that they will find their self-confidence unsupported when the votes are counted.

  • Anonymous

    Really! So the tea part are now the ‘republiCANTs’….wow, I didn’t know that…..

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    This is Bush 2000 all over again.  Another intellectually challenged neocon shill is being pimped to the public while Karl Rove and ALEC  maneuver behind the scenes to set up states for another coup.  Obama is either a willing accomplice or a deaf dumb blind cowardly fool.  Stand up and fight for the constitution and the people as you swore to do.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZNKKA6NGFJF45ITFBKE3KMNJ4I Jason

    Well, He is a great baseball mind. Which is the only reason I ever listen to him. If he’s talking politics? Nothing to hear, but baseball? Sure.

    Same thing with W. I was watching a Rangers game and W. came into the booth and had a long talk with Joe Morgan about baseball. I so wanted to hate W completely but he knows baseball and that is the only social redeeming value he has.

    It sticks in my craw but I have to say both of those guys know their baseball and that ain’t nothin in my house.

    Politics and baseball. Everything else is bullshit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2GVUFDMJI4GQLKGGQ7BCLOBYSU Hearto Dawknesse

    Let’s see some of that blood he’s supposed to be so full of.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NZW2UQQIBJ5XILKYSNUNA32WRM ImpressedByTexabillies

    Wow George just had a Holy Shit moment. Holy Shit the TeaChoads  are just the same as the Republicans. What was his first  clue, the ignorance or the racism? Looks like you have your hands full of shit. What next? Can’t polish the turd anymore huh? Sounds like George wants to throw in the “turd buffing towel”. Just  don’t shine like it used to does it George? Well be nice to Perry and he’ll be nice to you. Carry on.

  • Jackie Rawlings

    Finally the truth is told but then why not just call themselves Tea Party.  With the Republican Party gone and the Koch Bros now in charge we see the selection of insane nutters running for President.  Not one candidate has a brain but all are working for Corporations/Banks.  These are some of the most ignorant candidates ever to run for President.  The current elected Tea Party law makers are just as stupid.  Now all the Koch Bros. need to do is disenfranchise voters like it was done in 2000 election plus fix the voting machines.  The five paid US Supreme Court Justices are ready to appoint the US President again.

  • Anonymous

    **I tend to think of it as the BAIT Party.  Biggest Assholes In Town.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if Will sleeps in a coffin?

  • Anonymous

    So I guess that end of DADT was just a fluke?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6S7RE5HELN36HC6LMDIONA3DSA Julian

    I wish she would have said:”George, I would like to ask you a question…when is the last time you were right about anything? Please be specific George”>

  • Anonymous

    You’re damn right we are!!!!!!!!

    HOO DOGGIE!    GO TEA PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6S7RE5HELN36HC6LMDIONA3DSA Julian

    You are mistaken, what you smell is an old pair of Ronald Reagan’s underpants which George Will sleeps with each night…Michael Reagan gave it to him at the Gipper’s funeral.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/I36l6R0Ppv9Xrv7VDLT3Fa7Grs4huwhgxg--#c9aea PalliYour Name

    47 years of pretext-great run, George!

  • Anonymous

    Bush bailed out Wall Street!

  • http://mosquitocloud.net/ mc.murphy

    You’re missing the point, as per usual: 

    The point is that regardless of who bailed out Wall Street the original Tea Party was against it, and the progressives were fast asleep, because while TARP, and TALFs were being instituted by Bernanke and Geithner, 2.3 Trillion plus another 12 in guarantees… oops, did I say Geithner? Yes indeedy, Obama’s man, which is why we have an unopposed by the Progressives ongoing klepto-banker induced crisis, with austerity to follow once the 2012 election shakes out in favor of the status quo, no matter which scum gets elected.

  • Anonymous

    What’s that smell?

  • Anonymous

    Goldwater was nominated against the frenzied wishes of the GOP?  WTF does that mean, George?  The “establishment” died then?   Is this Will’s explanation for the GOP being populated by mesmerized close minded zombie brain ideological indoctrinated morons?  

  • Dolmance

    Just as the “health care debate” was getting started a few years back, and those Tea Bagger pigs were just coming into being thanks to the Koch Brothers and Fox News, George Will appeared on a podium at a Tea Party event. 

    He’s one of them, even if he says he’s above all that nonsense.  No matter how many big words he uses, which most of that group can’t understand anyway – that’s who he is.  Tea Bagger.  Douche bag.  Evil clown.

  • Anonymous

    This shill still says nothing.  

  • Anonymous

    Sadly, the bone thrown to the GL(not BT) community with dadt is the token window dressing BO uses to distinguish himself as being a wee bit to the left of the hard ring wingers whose economic and imperial aspirations he rubber stamps. 
    I hope that dadt allows women serving in petrolistan to find trustworthy companions to relieve their anxiety surrounding needing to go to the bathroom at night. Still, this meager bone is being thrown to the military, in the belief that it will make the occupations more tolerable. This is not repealing doma, which ould do a whole lot more people a whole lot more good.
    The focus needs to be on redirecting the war budget to rebuilding our infrastructure, updating our energy sector, and creating a sustainable economy in the process. Dadt is fine and well, but, metaphorically,  it is a settlement (what an awful pun) of Gaza, not the West bank. It’s just a little red herring. Look at his macro-priorities and his budgets. He is a tool of wall street. When his term is over, he will be rewarded with a board seat on goldman-sachs, at least.

  • Anonymous

    What I get out of this ‘debate’ is that we’re supposed to believe Chris Christie and Paul Ryan are normal. Bachmann and Perry are merely objects of fixation used to emphasize a phony contrast between various shades of insane and corrupt.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you, Master of the Obvious.  

  • Anonymous

     Exactly.

  • Anonymous

    normally, I wouldn’t respond to such an asinine comment, but Stumptown asked an intelligent question, so I’m here anyway. See above.
    The smell-o-vision program on your computer must have developed synesthesia. I am afraid of tall ladders and high places. You can smell that? I am reasonably prepared for whatever other slings and arrows are coming down the pike.

  • Maybe

    There is no Republican establishment? This coming from a member of it? Another Repub playing word games to avoid truth.

  • Anonymous

    He shares one with dick cheney. You didn’t know they were into that kind of stuff?

  • Anonymous

    Sociopaths are the new normal for the GOP. Proof indeed that the inmates are running the asylum.

  • http://jammer5spolyrant.wordpress.com/ Jammer5

    For once I agree with him.

  • Anonymous

    That the Tea Party is the GOP is obvious.  What’s not obvious, evidently because no one talks about it, is that this is the result of Obanka co-opting the entire moderate GOP platform.  What are the moderate Repubes supposed to disagree with?  Extending the Bush tax cuts?  An all-cuts-no revenues debt ceiling plan?  Escalating the wars?  Cutting medicare and social security?  Printing money to give to the banks?  Prosecuting whistleblowers?  Making new secret prisons in Somalia to replace Gitmo?  Using the State DEpartment as a sales team for the MIC.  Escalating the War on Drugs?  Of course the GOP has moves its establishment to the Tea Party.  Obanka has taken over the GOP establishment.

  • Anonymous

    Some dipshit farting again. Yeah, the sound is funny, but the stench most definitely is not.

  • Anonymous

    Me Too. He is totally full of sh!t on everything else especially Abortion & Gays.

  • Anonymous

    Yup. And is arrogance is sickening.

  • Anonymous

    That the Tea Party is the GOP is obvious, but let the tea baggers tell you we are dems, ind. and the list go on.  Even Steve Wonder could have see that the Tea Party was all GOP.

  • Anonymous

    Next big RAW headline surprise: Tea Party Members are Fascists.  Will everyone be fooled again?  This is National Socialism aka Nazism rearing its head in the 21st century and playing well to an uneducated population more concerned with greed and negativity that anything having to do with creating a prosperous country.

  • BigBuck

    “watch this video…..”

    Why should I watch what this old queen has to say?  In fact, why should ANYONE watch these EFFING TALKING HEADS AT ALL?

  • Anonymous

    If Perry is their guy, how can they think he’d win in the general election?

  • Anonymous

    Lots of time Obama does, because I am still with him.   Things are pretty insane right now.  We could end up much worse.  That’s the point too.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Blah Blah Blah.

  • Anonymous

    I find it hard to understand if folks know how the game is played.  Yes, game.  DC is a nasty game.  Watching the tea bagging repubs is all you need to see.   Many folks seem to have expections that a president could never do alone.   They need to change congress more than anything.  And means real Dems/progressives.  Counting Blue Dogs as a yes vote is not a sure thing.

  • Anonymous

     Take a good toke ,man; there may not be enough tea to go around.

  • Anonymous

    the only comparison between Goldwater and Perry is they both come from fringe wings of the GOP.  Goldwater was a nuke ‘em nut, and Perry’s nut classification is still being developed. 

     At least with Goldwater, you knew he’d probably nuke somebody, after that he was kind of old school republican.  Perry on the other hand is the pick of a more dangerous threat.  They won’t nuke someone else, they will nuke the US economy and lay it to waste with the give-a-ways they have in mind.

  • http://twitter.com/neoconned Neo Conned

    George Will lives in a reality of his own creation. Any confluence of that creation with our reality is strictly accidental.

  • http://twitter.com/neoconned Neo Conned

    The truth is so bright, he’d have to wear shades.

  • http://twitter.com/neoconned Neo Conned

    National Socialism was also intended to play upon rural fears of urban dwellers and immigrants. Sound familiar?

  • http://twitter.com/neoconned Neo Conned

    I don’t know that I agree, but I’ll give it some thought.

  • http://twitter.com/neoconned Neo Conned

    You could have stopped at he is totally full of sh!t on everything.

  • http://twitter.com/neoconned Neo Conned

    We just passed the anniversary of the Attica Prison riots. Can something like that be coming to deal with the national inmates?

  • http://twitter.com/neoconned Neo Conned

    +100

  • http://twitter.com/neoconned Neo Conned

    Georgie will never run out of verbal Shinola.

  • Anonymous

    America has not been inocculated against fascism, as Europe was after the Thirties, etc.

    America knows about fascism like Native Americans knew about the smallpox in those blankets.

    And the Big, Ugly Rich — Nazi Heirs like the Koch Brothers — are ready to make these cross-eyed Tea Party morons’ dreams come true.

    The Tea Party IS a replay of the Nazi Party.

  • Anonymous

    You are correct but he does have a great vocabulary.

  • Anonymous

    Fourteen years of towing the corporate line in Texas for the Gulf Coast Petrochemical complex; 14 years of dismantling every environmental reg Texas ever had; 14 years of promoting illegal immigration for the benefit of home builders and chicken processors (read:  Bob Perry and Bo Pilgrim); 14 years of bowing to the Religious Right.  And (overnight!) Rick Perry isn’t an establishment Republican?  Oh the realities we weave.

  • Anonymous

    The Obaman Admin is basically a continuation of the Bush Admin at the least. With all the offers to make compromises to the Big Three, he is perhaps even further to the right of the Bush Admin. What cracks me up is how violently opposed the Right is the Obama Admin when he essentially doing their bidding under the concept of Left Cover. Of course, not only does the average Republican voter  not understand this, but the average Democratic voter seems not to understand as well. The only thing that will change any of this will be huge protests organized by labor and progressives/liberals. Posting on Raw might be fun, but does nothing of substance.

  • Winski

    Then George, if I were you, I’d be checking my food for shrouds of glass and poisions in my drinks….

  • Anonymous

    It ain’t victory, brah..   Ya’ll losing for sure.

    I can see November from my front porch!

  • Anonymous

    Go to: whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com and then get back to me on that “token” thingy!

  • Anonymous

    Okay, so let’s assume you’re right, George. You do realize what that means, right? The tea party is a creation of the Koch brothers and Dick Armey. It’s a bought and paid for joke to think it’s a political party at all. It’s nothing but a tool for the Kochs and Armey(et al) to make it look like they AREN’T behind things. They bought their way into office, and it’s been showing just how ugly people can be when paid for it.

    So, with the tea party being a bought and paid for thing of the very rich, that means that the very rich BOUGHT their own party, and the rest of your party went right along with it. Now, I don’t doubt that they were acting on your behalf before, that second half, but now they don’t even feel like they have to TRY to look like scum. It’s their party platform.

    Ultimately, you are saying that our government is up for grabs to the highest bidder. Thanks for FINALLY admitting it. Those of us OUTSIDE the halls of power have seen it all our lives. It’s just worse than usual, now, since you righties took over and started working on it. It’s just nice to actually see one of you jerk offs admit it for a change.

    Now, when are you going to suggest renaming it the Koch party? Just a LITTLE more honesty?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LJMNZL5KJFX2H5CKWK2S75HU7I Kevin

    Actually the Tea Party, pre-Koch bros., had people from different
    parties that were pissed off at the government…but they have long
    since been co-opted and bastardized.

  • Michael Lubin

    This story has nothing newsworthy about it whatever.

  • Anonymous

    i wish it were true that they were a dead party, but they have been winning and reversing the social and economic and political achievements of the last 70-80 years ever since Nixon and Reagan, but are by far the worst now.

    i simply wonder what kind of stake through the heart it will take to put these vampires like darth cheney and michelle bachman and palin and perry to an end once and for all….

  • Anonymous

    unfortunately i do think that obama has few real principles or core beliefs and so asking him to stand up and fight is rather a lost cause, though his rhetoric at times sounds quite fine, it’s all what I call “strategic” meaning of mere use to gain an electoral advantage rather than to pass progressive legislation…..

    but ultimately it really is The People of the country who are responsible for this mess because unlike with the Arab Spring, they aren’t in the streets and taking over the reins of power, so we know that it is quite possible for the people to change the system any systen profoundly (heck this is even still a bourgeois democracy and not a dictatorship like tunisia and egypt were) but alas the american people are either too frightened, apathetic, ignorant, alienated, discouraged, unorganized, willfully uninformed or some combo of these to try to do much, at a mass level that is of course….

    & even furthermore you can’t expect some weak political leader like obama to challenge the Power Elites who, in the end, paid for his election in the first place either (alas, poor democracy, I knew her well…..)

  • iRead

    The ONLY stake that will ever penetrate the evil of hearts like that is…education.
    There’s a reason Rs have been reluctant to fully fund education.  Comes from the old question “How ya gonna keep ‘em down on the farm?”

    When they DO intrude into education, it’s to ban books, limit discussions, promote religion, and of course…money.  George Bush pushes No Child’s Behind, Neil Bush co-founds Ignite!, an educational software company, raises “$23 million from U.S. investors (including his parents), as well as businessmen from Taiwan, Japan, Kuwait, the British Virgin Islands and the United Arab Emirates, according to documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.” (Peter Carlson, Washington Post, Sunday, December 28, 2003; Page D01)
    Unsurprisingly:  In 2002, “Ignite! also entered into a partnership with a Mexican company, Grupo Carso Telecom. The partnership enabled Ignite! to lay off half of its 70 employees and outsource their jobs to Mexico. (Ibid.)
    Equally unsurprising:  In 2003, software made by Neil Bush’s company was “being used by about 40,000 students in 120 school districts, mostly in Texas, at a cost of about $30 per pupil.” (Ibid.)

    The full article is available at http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A35297-2003Dec27?language=printer
    Its’s a fascinating report concerning the very heart of crony-capitalism.  Well worth the read, if you don’t mind being disgusted all over again, still.

  • iRead

    “…his rhetoric at times sounds quite fine, it’s all what I call “strategic” meaning of mere use to gain an electoral advantage rather than to pass progressive legislation…”

    AKA Chin-music

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    “Garden Party” ~ E.H.N.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShwSZtDdl3M

  • Anonymous

    “So, with the tea party being a bought and paid for thing of the very rich, that means that the very rich BOUGHT their own party”

    Very true, but the rich hedge their bets, too. They’ll invest in both parties. Obama has been a dismal failure, in fact, Glenn Greenwald has suggested Obama has used the the right wing to get extreme austerity policy through congress by feigning ‘compromise’ to something he didn’t disagree with in the first place. When I see Boehner and Biden backslapping each other, discussing golf and other trivialities, I don’t see opposition. I see collusion. Boehner is the enemy, so when you get elected by the people to oppose corrupt, crying drunks like him, you do your job Biden and you oppose him. Make him feel unwelcome at every turn. Oppose him or give up your seat of power, because you are in collusion. No more niceties and small talk. This is class warfare goddammit. Hey, I know… no more millionaires in Congress.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/42THFKXIPMJHQBIH6OPI4RVIDY Thebes

    George Will has it backwards. The Republican establishment co-opted the Tea Party.
    Just like the Democratic establishment co-opted “The Progressive Movement”.

  • Anonymous

    Just when I thought Mr Will was going to make a real contribution he goes back to 1964. He is like a Cardinal in the church blaming their troubles on the radical 60′s. 

  • Anonymous

    Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia…

  • Anonymous

    That’s why the RNC supports only those who can cough up the cash, right Georgey??

    The loyal Americans, the sane citizens, are taking back our country. We’ve had enough!

  • Anonymous

    The Koch brothers are listed 65th of the most amount in donations made. What does your little psychotic mind guess (If your denial permits)  what the percentage of Useful Idiots are far above them?

    The Tea Party are not paid astroturf protestors as the Useful Idiot Unions/various scumbags are.

    Look DEEP into your mirror, liar; 

    Forensic Psychiatrist Explains the Madness of (Modern) Liberalism http://t.co/zoDKXZt

  • Anonymous

    Oh, get over it. You people ARE bought and sold, plain and simple. You have NO idea who is buying your ass, and you don’t care. It’s ALL about getting the black man out of the white house.

    I don’t have to look at your pathetic link, I’ve been hearing it fro you psychos for 3 DECADES now, and I’m just fed up with it enough to tell you where you can STOW that link. Get over yourself. You aren’t superior to ANYONE in this country, no matter how many bullshit links you put up. I KNOW who paid for your little “study” and it’s just pathetic that you would even have that around with you, ready to throw it out at a moment’s notice.

    You’re BORING as hell. You need to try a LOT harder if you’re going to impress anyone. It’s just SO funny to watch you guys TRY to insist that you aren’t in the pockets of the rich. It doesn’t MATTER which ones it is, though the Kochs have ALL KINDS of ways to hide their input, you’ve been bought. You do the bidding of those who have set upon you like a plague, and you want the rest of us to go along with it? Not a chance.

  • Anonymous

    Too bad the calendar doesn’t support your claims:  Paulson announced the Wall Street Bailout in mi September 2008 but it wasn’t until February 27, 2009 that the first tebagggers got together to protest the “Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP) bailout bill signed by President George W. Bush in October 2008 and the ARRA stimulus bill signed by President Barack Obama ten days prior” to the February 2009 protest.  In fact it wasn’t until Obama joined the bailout that it became an issue for the teabaggers.  Their first demonstration was evidently on “January 24, 2009 to protest a proposed 18% tax on non-diet soft drinks by former Governor of New York, David Paterson.”

    Your version is anachronistic at best and just plain fabricated to match your earlier narrative at worst!

    The quotes are from wikipedia!

  • http://mosquitocloud.net/ mc.murphy

    You are talking about a paltry sum of 750 Billion. The total that was handed ove to Wall Street was 12-23 Trillion, depending how one counts it.

    You are concentrating a trickle. Why?

  • Anonymous

    According to all you right wing libertarian types such as yourself and your hero Ron Paul,  the main problem with the Federal Bank is that it is a extra governmental agency that is responsible to no one and that has only recently even been audited by the Congress. According to everything I have read this money that you are referring to here actually came from the Fed and did not come from the Congress, the government and were not approved or instituted by the President, therefor they have not increased the debt.  Obama did contribute more money to the bank bailout as I already noted but it is not the amount you are claiming.  So my question to you is why do you continue to lie about this and basically make things up in a desperate attempt to sustain your false narrative!

  • http://mosquitocloud.net/ mc.murphy

    I’m a left libertarian, which you are conveniently choosing to ignore.

    It is stunning though, that you are so much as admitting that the Fed is rogue, unaccountable entity (read the congressional audit, btw), which neither Party in congress is objecting to.

    So I ask, what kind of economic system are we currently (and for the past 30 years) being subjected to?

    What is it about the financialization, and monopolistic subsidization of extractive industries, of our economy that makes it better than the libertarian “something” you so vehemently decry?

  • http://campaign.robburns.com RobBurns4Congress

    “What is it about the financialization, and monopolistic subsidization of extractive industries of our economy that makes it better than the libertarian “something” you so vehemently decry?”

    The two are largely indistinguishable. Your advocacy extends only so far as corporations openly steal from the public treasury. So long as that stealing is modest enough to hide behind a veil of propaganda, you accept it completely. Finance involves many inherently natural monopoly components.

    So the idea that these should be left to the private sector is the same as saying they should be dominated by privileged monopoly interests. The subsidies to extractive industries are not merely checks written to the extractive enterprises. The subsidies involve letting those corporations take the precious and irreplaceable resources of the Earth without duly compensating the public for that bounty. The stellar profits reported by these corporations are profits that largely arise from taking from the public treasury.

  • Anonymous

    I agree that he has been more responsive on cultural issues that any Republican would have been. Here’s a question on the Ledbetter Act of 2009: Since it was supposed to bring wage equality and it was one of the first bills Obama signed why is wage inequality still what it was when the bill was signed?  This is not a rhetorical question, did it lack an enforcement mechanism, or what, do you have any idea?

  • Anonymous

    Then why did you post this earlier:
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    mc.murphy posted this:

     

    “Understanding what you describe, the only appropriate
    definition of a system allowing for that reality is—drum roll:
    right-libertarianism.

     

    “When you vote for the right of center Democrats, you are
    voting for the right-libertarian economic ideology, without the benefits of: No
    more wars, no more empire, no more job sucking trade agreements, no more
    subsidies for monopolists (big Ag, big Pharma, FIRE and MIC), no more TBTF, and
    no more Patriot Act fascism.

     

    “Your fear of right-libertarianism has blinded
    you to the reality and is badly misplaced. You fear a rabid poodle, but give
    the rabid pitbull which has clamped shut it’s jaws on your arse a pass.”

    These are basically all Ron Paul’s positions and he is hardly a left wing libertarian. 

  • Anonymous

    Actually the answer it fairly simple. In these times of employment insecurity people, especially women, are much less likely to rock the boat. Keep in mind that it takes a complaint. There is no department of labor inspection bureau auditing the pay roll of employers looking for inequality.

    In the big picture the sex responsible for child bearing and rearing its unrealistic for the macro number to EVER approach the level of their non-house bound partners.

    What you do see is near parity among the college educated women prior to their child bearing years and near equity for those who forego childbirth.

  • http://mosquitocloud.net/ mc.murphy

    No Robert,

    I’m not advocating anything remotely right-libertarian, and you know it!

    I’m advocating for chipping away at the monstrosity wherever we can, while firmly believing that the natural (non indoctrinated) human tendencies are based in mutual support and cooperation. The polls clearly show that Americans are against the Wall Street oligarchy, against militarism, pro Soc.Sec., pro Medicare and Medicaid, and pro taxing wealth. The public is left of anything economically libertarian, and certainly left of the status quo!

    The current profits are surplus value – our wages, which the capitalist lend back to us at interest. Elinor Ostrom agrees about the extraction of the (less bountiful) bounty, but advocates for localism and local regulations which are far less distortive of local ecologies. than one size fits all regulation coming form Washington, even if it was a model of responsible, rather than kleptocratic, governance.

    What I am advacating for is the quickest path to defanging the oligarchy by withdrawing from wars, prosecuting white collar financial industry fraud, and telling the WTO to get fucked with their job sucking and pollution transferring trade agreements.

    And the only large block of citizens that would agree that at least that portion of tghe agenda is to be found in the independent, real left, and libertarian cohorts.

    So again, don’t throw up straw men arguments about ideologies—I’m mostly with you—but tell me how we can get there before the MIC and FIRE kleptocrats will have finished pillaging, and indenturing us with 30% interest rates on credit, privatization of public infrastructure, and white collar lawless unaccountability.

    Monsanto or you local organic dairy? Currently the AG, and regulatory trade policies are favoring Monsanto while raiding dairy farms…

  • Anonymous
  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IA2XCA7JNM6SPZZG4HURXHEYBY Trippin Mczoink

    Hey, Will, you best watch what you say, or you might find a little polonium in your teapot at the Plaza.    This astroturf bullshit is helping to get people to vote against their own interests, and we need to dupe these people if we’re going to win in 2012, so shut your yapper.      Signed, Your friend, Grover.

  • Anonymous

    The Birch Society was Koch bankrolled – daddy K.  There is no pre-Koch TP.
    There is a new bunch of dumb rednecks who think it’s great, yet don’t have a clue, and there are a bunch of old Randites suddenly amazed at all the attention.  Economic crises can drive normal people nuts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IA2XCA7JNM6SPZZG4HURXHEYBY Trippin Mczoink

    “The Tea Party are not paid astroturf protestors…”   Well, those are the dumb ones who think the Tea Party stands for something other than what the Republican Party stands for, namely, destroying the American middle class.   

    They’re too stupid to know those they’re marching with are being paid while they are not.   But take comfort in knowing that at least their ignorance isn’t as infuriating as it is to our soldiers getting paid poverty wage deployed next to a Blackwater contractor making a thousand bucks a day.

    Let me ask you a question, Einstein.    Do you think having weekends off and paid vacation and health benefits as part of being employed is in general a good thing or a bad thing?    If, like everyone who actually works for a living, you think those are good things, then thank a union member you stupid bastard, because if you knew the first fucking thing about history or economics, you’d know employers didn’t offer up these benefits out of the goodness of their hearts.   

    In fact, Zippy, with the decline in unions we’ve witnessed a commensurate flattening of wages and universal decline in benefits.   If you think that’s a good thing, well, fine.    That’s your prerogative, but be aware you in so doing self identify as a card-carrying Koch-Sucker First Class in the Dick Armey, which lends discredit to any opinion you might offer.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IA2XCA7JNM6SPZZG4HURXHEYBY Trippin Mczoink

    “Ooooo baby!   Here I am!    Signed, sealed, delivered:  I’m yours!”     

    I hereby make a motion to make this the national anthem of the Tea Party.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IA2XCA7JNM6SPZZG4HURXHEYBY Trippin Mczoink

    Explaining if course why Ron Paul won the straw poll so handily there.

    Lunatic

    Fringe

    Extremists

    It’s just that simple.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IA2XCA7JNM6SPZZG4HURXHEYBY Trippin Mczoink

    “Free Markets: A free market is the economic consequence of personal
    liberty. The founders believed that personal and economic freedom were
    indivisible, as do we…”   and so on….

    This is codespeak for removing all government regulation, leaving business to run the show unfettered and unconstrained.       This is Republican destruction of the middle class on steroids.     This is the fountainhead (as Ayn Rand would put it) of draconian uber-right fascist economic Darwinism, the sentiment that motivates a group to cheer the prospect of a man in a coma dying because he didn’t buy health insurance.

    Who on the “left” (better yet, who in their right mind who’s paying attention”) can’t see that?    I can’t figure out what the fuck you’re saying but I dislike your use of the word “left” like it’s some kind of insult.

    Are you drunk?   What’s your point?    That the “tea party” used to be a good thing?   So what?   What the fuck does that have to do with what it is today?      I don’t give a shit if it was a party full of nuns.    Whaddya want, a pat on the back?     Evidently you and your buddies couldn’t keep your shit together.

  • Anonymous

    Thank God I got out of the party that I worked long and hard for when people like you started to take it over. You have turned the good old Dem Party into a Marxist nuthouse.

  • Anonymous

    Nah, we finally got a candidate that wasn’t interested in being Leftist-Lite.
    Let the uprising continue.
    (I’m surprised none of your allies on the left haven’t pointed out how “rich and evil that Rockefeller guy was”………..you know, kind of like the Koch brothers are now? Oh, that’s right: Nelson was an ACCEPTABLE sort of Republican to Dems because he was a good loser who never threatened to rock the boat too much……….or put up too much of a fight against the leftists.)

  • Anonymous

    No offense but your Link sucks.  That b.s. ad gets in the way… 
    And from your avitar I can tell you don’t know shit about Marx or Obama. 
    I bet you are real educated. Clown college?
    But who needs education when you got Smith&Wesson, am I right?
    drrr “I listen to Glennda Beck” 
    You may in fact be Living Proof that Koch fueled propaganda totally works and I hope you don’t have a gun but I bet you do. Did you know that the original millionaire Koch made his first riches teaching the russian Soviets how to refine Oil?  Do you know any fucking thing about the American Liberty League? I bet you don’t and I bet you won’t even look that up on YouTube, you national Socialist. I bet you are completely Gay for the military and that’s because you are a Socialist (national). Kill for Christ. Look SHALLOW into your mirror, cuz that’s the only way you can see.

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  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand the concern about the health risks.  Smart women and parents (smart is code for progressive) will get the vaccination because they know it will help.  Hopefully this will deter the Bagger women from getting it, they get uterine cancer and can no longer have children and their fucked-up inbred gene dies with them.  It is a win/win.

  • Anonymous

    I bet you think that Mother’s Day and Sister’s Day are the same thin in your family, don’t you you fucking inbred retard.  The Teabagger’s aren’t smart enough to be anything other than what Armey and the Kochs want them to be.  Face it, you people hate the left because we support laws that make incest illegal.

    Go back to your trailer park and train your daughter for the porn industry you fucking moron.

  • Anonymous

    Shut the fuck up you uneducated, inbred bitch.

  • Anonymous

    You mean back when they were called the KKK?

  • Anonymous

    Masters degree and not inbred, sorry to dent the template.
    And no, I most certainly will not shut up, you master debater, you
    LOL

  • Anonymous

    Here, maybe you’ll learn something:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UiLZk2TE8k

    Your descendants were once either “illegals” or land stealers, unless you are Native American (I’m assuming you are a U.S. citizen) but maybe you are o.k. with stealing people’s land… 

  • Anonymous

    Excellent! Well worth the 15 minutes! I’ll watch it again later. Thanx for posting this!

    Rusticus! 

    Fight Corrupt Corporate Power!

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