Some Americans are voting against their own interest but mostly the elections are fixed.

I agree; however, I would have said: MANY/MOST are voting against their own interests.

I had to sit my teenage daughter  down and prepare her for the possibility of an ugly future. I had to let her know   I will probably have to let her personal dressers go, her  Zit popper go, her red carpet roller go, her personal shoppers go and she  may even have to brush their own teeth, wipe their own ass, open her own car door, and reply to her own friends on Facebook.

It’s a sad world we live in. That extra 4.6% will lower our income to the point where we’ll have to vacation in America and she can just forget that new Porsche for her birthday, she’ll have to settle for last years model.

You raise your children in the hopes that they will have a better future than you.  Now I had to scrape the money together to hire a personal guard because my Princess is now on suicide watch.

Shame on you President Obama.  Now I have to pencil her in for more appointments and actually talk to her!   I HATE YOU

Yeah it’s called “redistricting”   that is why the Electoral College MUST be abolished…..NOW

In terms of vacations, don’t forget Greece. Soon enough even the poorest Americans will be able to afford vacationing there because the world bankers are determined to drive it into the sea and if Greece has any sense, it’ll leave the eurozone and return to using drachmas.

Greece back on the drachma will mean even a slightly-less rich person like many out there will be able to sun and fun at very low cost. Well, okay, maybe with riots and starving people and strikes and even civil war raging around you, but hey, you can always hire some hot Greek bodyguards. They are a beautiful people!

Yep, teabaggers are morons.

Anyone voting Republican is voting against their best interest if they are American.

Yeah, like Obama has been a good thing for this country. Open your eyes! Both of the major political parties in this country are corrupt beyond belief and neither gives a damn about you or me.

Where was the part about Tony Bennett that was the only thing I was interested in hearing. Raw why are you being misleading with your headlines?

Voting against their interest? Other peoples money is no ones interest except the person. I like how you hide the actuality of voting to confiscate other peoples wealth and give it to yourself at the point of a federal gun as voting in your own interest. I should try that sometime, I’ll go rob a bank and when I’m arrested I’ll just say hey I was acting in my own self interest.

And for Democrats that love to complain about how Republicans are selfish isn’t advocating for voting in your own self-interest kind of selfish and a bit of a oxymoron?

Why is Maher always headlined here for saying something inflammatory and retarded?

Perhaps dumbfuck should explain how jacking taxes will create jobs?   That should be interesting listening.

“Well, uh..    Err..   It’s just that..    derrrr… ”

How many jobs did the 2 Bush tax cuts create from 2001-2008?  Then how many jobs did the Clinton WH create when they raised the top rate to 39.6%?  

When you can TRUTHFULLY answer this, come back with the answer, not RW talking points.  Btw, sorry to throw you a curve ball by asking a RWer to be truthful, but I can be mean sometime.

Alright, IDIOT, since the economics of the last hundred years has eluded your pin head, Let me explain it to you.

Its’ a matter of what we in the real world call incentives. When you give the rich an incentive to keep their money but ONLY if they reinvest it in the company, they tend to do what works for someone OTHER than just themselves. Back in the 50′s -70′s we had a much higher tax rate on business and the rich. As a result, the reinvested the money that they had into their companies, and their companies got stronger, bigger, and more profitable. This is how it’s SUPPOSED to work.

Since your GOD Reagan, we have removed every incentive in the name of profit. This is nonsensical and does NOTHING but gut the workers, the market, and their companies themselves. It leaves them in a much WEAKER position, unable to deal with competition of any kind. So they use their wealth and buy government and make the market work ONLY for them. No one but they win under such a corrupted system.

Look at the numbers, dimwit. The more taxes on the wealthy and business go down, the less jobs, the less benefits, the less security the country has. This same thing has happened before, it was called the Great depression. It was brought about by EXACTLY the horse shit policies you promote and espouse.

Fucking HELL. Will you NEVER learn a goddamned thing about your own country’s history? Until you do, I suggest you get your goddamned shit eating ass out to the library. It’s a building where we keep BOOKS. Try READING one. Stop using them for door stops. They have INFORMATION in there which MIGHT make you LESS of an idiot. But somehow in your case I doubt it will help. You insist on staying as stupid as you can, and that is just plain pathetic.

Now SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEARN SOMETHING FOR A CHANGE!

And how many jobs did the tax cut babies create over the past
ten years, hah douche nozzle? It worked fine during the Clinton
years and then wham…fucking repubs got control and put us
where we are now. So, how many people did those tax cuts employ?
And overseas slave labor jobs don’t count asshat.

“WJM51, Now SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEARN SOMETHING FOR A CHANGE!”  A wise self analysis following 4 paragraphs of gibberish.

Intuition is huffpo model is spreading like a cancer to pre-aol fellow travelers. Seems to be affecting alternet, too.

If it wasn’t for Maher, Colbert, and Stewart, I would have no way to vent. Sarcastic humor is indeed the best antitdote to fascist toropupu.

Sure, the stay in Greece won’t cost much, but what about the air fare to get there??? My arms aren’t strong enough to flap that far!

Don’t ya love the vicious attack perpetrated upon a passer-by for expressing their world view, by the gang-bangers citizenry of  the gangland called Raw Story site!

I am self employed. Personally, I am getting a lot of traction doing stand-up, calling myself a “job creator.”
Political comedians always go for the low hanging fruit, and the absurdity of insinuating that the corps that tanked the economy are “job creators” is hilarious on the face. The only thing that isn’t funny about it is that the fox crowd believe it to be true.

Imbecile Bush said ‘They hate us for our freedom’. Anyone who wants to look deeper is branded a supporter of terrorism. The fact is that they hate us for our blind support of Israel and our historical support of brutal dictators who allow US oil companies access to their resources.

You are the only retard that I see on these premises.

Back in the 50′s -70′s we had a much higher tax rate on business and
the rich. As a result, the reinvested the money that they had into their
companies, and their companies got stronger, bigger, and more
profitable.

Uh, yet corporations now face lower taxes and are stronger, bigger, and more profitable than ever.  Not a day goes by that you don’t see some post here on The Prog Story that corporations are making record profits.

But that’s how things are SUPPOSED to work.

“Jacking” taxes wouldn’t, but that’s a huge over-simplification. Raising taxes on the Super Rich, perhaps back to Clinton era levels, will mean taxes can be lowered on small businesses, which really create jobs, and on ordinary consumers, who can then spend more and stimulate demand, which will create jobs. A second benefit would be to get rid of the structural deficit created by the Bush wars, unfunded tax cuts, and unfunded Medicare prescription plan; this would restore confidence and help alleviate the panic attacks the market is subject to since the Bush economic crash.

Hay Juan, you starring at the mirror again!

Maybe we should just give the banks and Wall Street ALL the money.  Then the rest of us can live on either love or hate.  At least that leaves us a choice.

Actually, they’ve eliminated their competition thru mergers and buyouts (monopoly capitalism), while the ceo’s steal from the stockholders by cashing out their options. Then they reduce their workforce thru layoffs, to eliminate duplication of effort (e.g. if two businesses merge thay may only need one district mgr now instead of two) and/or outsourcing.
But whatever we do, we can’t tax the job creators!!! That could cause mass unemployment!
Yeah, ok.

Actually, they’ve eliminated their competition thru mergers and buyouts (monopoly capitalism), while the ceo’s steal from the stockholders by cashing out their options. Then they reduce their workforce thru layoffs, to eliminate duplication of effort (e.g. if two businesses merge thay may only need one district mgr now instead of two) and/or outsourcing.
But whatever we do, we can’t tax the job creators!!! That could cause mass unemployment!
Yeah, ok.

Hit like by mistake, my bad.

Seriously treker do you really think all the tax cuts for the rich and big business help the avg American?

Do you really think all the deregulation and corporate subsidies help the avg American?

We have had this going on for 11 years. The rich have increased their wealth by 400%, the avg person’s wealth has been reduced. The current median household income is down significantly from 2000.

It has nothing to do with the government trying to steal other peoples money and everything to do with the elite stealing money from the avg worker.

So yes, anyone who isn’t part of the top 10% is voting against their best interest when they vote for a republican that wants to maintain the Bush years.

As to your closing remark, it’s BS. Democrats tend to vote for everyone’s best interest. The Republicans tend to vote for only the top 10% best interest. Don’t see the oxymoron.

Hit like by mistake, my bad.

Seriously treker do you really think all the tax cuts for the rich and big business help the avg American?

Do you really think all the deregulation and corporate subsidies help the avg American?

We have had this going on for 11 years. The rich have increased their wealth by 400%, the avg person’s wealth has been reduced. The current median household income is down significantly from 2000.

It has nothing to do with the government trying to steal other peoples money and everything to do with the elite stealing money from the avg worker.

So yes, anyone who isn’t part of the top 10% is voting against their best interest when they vote for a republican that wants to maintain the Bush years.

As to your closing remark, it’s BS. Democrats tend to vote for everyone’s best interest. The Republicans tend to vote for only the top 10% best interest. Don’t see the oxymoron.

It explains a LOT that you think HISTORY is gibberish. Moron.

And WHAT, pray tell are they doing with those profits? NOT A GODDAMNED THING as far as THIS country is concerned. It THAT is how you want things to go and believe they SHOULD go, then there is NO point in even trying to discuss anything with you. You are incapable of understanding the first thing about the topic.

I suggest you go back to the Sylvester the cat cartoon about how business is SUPPOSED to work. It MIGHT be at a level you can actually understand. It continually talks about REINVESTMENT, not robbing everyone and everything of every penny one can get. In fact, it specifically talks about NOT just running off with the profits, which is EXACTLY what business HAS done. It hasn’t reinvested a fucking PENNY in this country.

In fact, they have ROBBED us of the very ability to produce anything for ourselves. They have left us a t a FAR weaker position than we have ever been in our history. One good war would wipe us out, right now. And I mean a REAL war, not this nonsense of money grunning theft the right has us in now. If we went up against China, for instance, we would be dead in a day. They MAKE the majority of the parts of our military weapons systems now. Trust THAT? Then you’re a moron.

History shows us that YOU are on the wrong side, and it’s slitting your own throat. Be an idiot, just don’t advocate for BEING an idiot.

Yeah, because the Chinese need MORE of our jobs. If we tax those at the top and the big business sector, they won’t be able to create more jobs over there. They sure as fuck aren’t doing it here.

Go over to ANY right wing site and see what happens when anyone even SLIGHTLY to the left shows up. Tell me THAT is more humane. Not only do you know NOTHING of your own country’s history, but you don’t have a clue of how your own side treats others, in spite of DOING IT YOURSELF every time you show up.

You’re a fucking hypocrite. And an ignorant one, too.

Does the baby feel better now………huh. I am here to mess with your mind, thanks for participating………you are easy!!

He might need new glasses, but that’s only because he didn’t see YOU here when he said that.

Remember, I am only a figment of your imagination………Juan on the other hand, has a perpentency to hallucinate. Well it makes no difference, the effects are still the same………..long term pot smoking!

And NO I won’t go away! I may be a bigger bully than you…….and your significant other mentioning your lack of staying power!

“Hit like by mistake, my bad.”

Hit “Like” again on purpose, Ghost, and the “mistake” goes away!

Funny how the goobs can’t see that corporatist hand up their Government puppet’s ass so far it makes its lips move. The Koch brothers and friends sure are getting their money’s worth out of the “Gub’mint is all EVIL” meme.

I say we divide the country right down the middle, geographically. Then, we put all the progressives on one side and all the conservatives on the other. THEN, we start two new countries, one on each side, and give things about 100 years or so to gel and see what happens.

You’re delusional.  You don’t have the intelligence much less the power to mess with anyone’s mind.

Remember when we were all told that Chinese communists were our enemies?  Well, it would seem the “job creators” have defected to China.  Bunch of traitors!

I know, but I am in good company with a target rich arena!

Why don’t you try reading the article that has the part about Tony Bennett, moron?  Here’s a clue:  it’s not this article.

Perhaps someone can explain how it is that the “Job Creators” allowed 800,000 jobs per month to be LOST  in spite of receiving the Bush tax cuts. Remember that Bush gave these “Job Creators” the biggest tax cuts they ever received. Seems to me that the “Job Creators” failed hopelessly to do their jobs. 

He is truth that the special Olympics works.  the mildly retarded are so entertaining and he proves it.  He reminds me of Jimmy on South Park without the crutches.  Too bad he makes us real Socialists look bad

WHY is this racist zionist still on TEEVEE??

Okay, this is a good rant.

Let me see, you must be one of those that believe putting more money in the pockets of wealthy makes the rest of us better off. I know since GHW Bush called Reagan out for voodoo economics in 1980 (before deciding to be VP) the capitalist lick-spittle crowd (that would be you) have fallen in line with the mantra of more money for the wealthy creates jobs, even though all the evidence points to the contrary. (look it up yourself – 22 million jobs created under Clinton in 8 years versus 6 million under “W” – tax rates were much higher under Clinton and more government regulation to boot)

When you decide to educate yourself some and use the potential in that 3 pounds of meat between your ears. Or you can go back to watching FOX news and reading the World Net Daily and Drudge Report.

Free yourself from your self-imposed bondage to the fascist financial capitalists and standup and gaze at the horizon and see the possibilities for a better more equitable world

Do not engage this moron. It gives him power way above the pathetic subsistence level education he has. He brings nothing to the table but tired old propaganda from a soon to be defunct economic model.

I can’t buy-in to the phoney ‘left-right’, ‘democratic-republican’ paradigm. It is class warfare, period! The wealthy have been waging war against the common American since we became a group of united colonies. Read the writings of General Smedley Butler. We have always been an empire in waiting until we could actually become one and empire is for the moneyed elite, not us.

Racist how?

Taxes are lowest since 58, so where are the jobs?

Do they really believe their own lies?  Or are they simply in flight from reality altogether–which would mean among other things that they hate the truth because it is true.

What does it mean to “believe” something when you’re as fucked up as that, mentally speaking?

Fuck you.

Gibberish. What an idiot.

Drivel. Don’t you Nazi shit-eaters know how to make sense.

We wish you a speedy and painful death–your ass-fucked whore of a family, too.

Corpses fart. You post. Cowardly bitch.

Word salad.

And here you thought you and your fellow baby-fuckers had a monopoly on gibberish.

Bitch.

Because someone has to pay. And right now local and state governments are squeezing the middle and low end of the totem pole to make the difference.

According to Deepak Chopra, reality is what you perceive it to be. When you change your perception, you change your reality. IMO, yes, many of them believe the garbage they spew because they figure that what’s good for them must be good for everybodyeverything.
In the raygun era, our public schools shifted curriculum to discourage children from learning to think critically to indoctrinating them as to what to believe. What these fucked up people believe is simply a function of their inability to reason. They don’t hate the truth per se because they can’t even conceive that it is true. They hate the truth because it threatens their programming.

We had the chance back in the 1860′s, but corporatist railroad lawyer abraham lincoln, in his new job as president saw fit to unleash untold bloodshed to hold the country together so the transcontinental railroad’s route would travel through only one country. One hundred-fifty years (of jim crow) since have made the task less doable now than it was then.
The repugs seem so bent on returning capitalism to the 19th century, and the rift between the bible belt and educated america has grown so intractable, maybe we’ll get a civil war do-over. Let’s hope we have the wisdom to ask the confederacy to go in peace this time.
100 years down the road, Superior America would likely have found its way, lower america would likely be  depopulated due to climate change, resource depletion, and diabetes…..issues that don’t respond well to prayer.

Why do you make inflammatory and retarded comments claiming that someone made a inflammatory and retarded comment?

Perhaps you should explain how when marginal tax rates on the rich (so called job creaters–NOT) were much, much higher, the economy grew at a very comfortable rate generating more revenue which in turn created more jobs.

Folks, take note that when this troll is presented with any kind of rational argument, it disappears

How many jobs have been lost since the Bush tax cuts were enacted? 

Job creators indeed!

You recognition of gibberish is prima facia of your expertise in the subject of gibberish, from one bitch to another!

Now let’s see. the profanity you invoked will add at least two pages to my pending best seller publication of my book. Advance Profanity for A Waterfront Sewer Rat. Thanks, got any more……..try to be a bit more original and creative……others are watching you.

Ah yes and you are calling me out!……………ah wherega go! Oh…changing your shorts!

Joe Vaughan “Word salad” from Joe the fruit salad.

Just look at JackHoffaX’s avatar.  You don’t need to go into his in-depth, sound-reasoned rhetoric.
He’s a troll.   He might know BrocolliBob, too.

How do we divide the land? Would there be wars between both sides to obtain more areas of land? What would stop Republicans from moving out of their side and into the Progressive side and then ruining the Progressive side by voting for terrible choice candidates? Wouldn’t America become the location  of the next Israel/Palestinian style conflict?

I used to read “The Hill” because I thought it might be balanced.  Boy, was I wrong.  The commentors
there are as rabid RW as they come.  No, I don’t read it anymore.  May as well read NewsMax.

Bunch of good questions, wish they’d been solved back when the opportunity was ripe.
lincoln should have let the south go in peace, signed a treaty securing borders, dividing state resources held in common, as was done when the soviet union collapsed.
Southerns would attempt to move north just as Latin Americans are now, and as happened in the great migration away from jim crow. When christian/capitalist values leave them mired in hopeless poverty, and climate change makes the south unable to grow food and generally uninhabitable, there will be refugees.
Canada was forced to put disincentives in place to prevent americans from moving there to get health care. Superior america, likewise, would have to make refugees from lower america ineligible for the benefits they never wanted when they were part of the larger union.
If you look at jim crow, and nixon’s southern strategy, you see that your fears of conservatives dominating numerically (and ethically) superior progressives have already manifested and festered for a generation. Likewise, poor, racist states like mississippi and georgia, arizona and alabama have used jim crow/etc to ensure that the type of apartheid israel manifests towards palestine has been the de facto law of the land since the constitution made slaves 3/5 of a human being. Apartheid has been part of american culture for a long time before israel imposed it on palestine.
One necessary part of the deal is that we must return the repugnant clarence thomas to georgia so he can caddy for newt gingrinch and saxby chambliss on the school of the americas’ golf course. I’d like to send him straight to hell, but georgia is pretty close. One refugee from there told me that the only rationale for georgia’s existence is to make florida look less awful.
I grew up south of the mason-dixon line. I’m old enough to remember hotel rooms and water fountains
“for coloreds only.” I have no sympathy for the cretins who maintain this status quo.

“Job Creators” is propaganda bandied about by the Republican Brotherhood as a substitute for “Robber Barons”.

The oligarchy has had a decade to demonstrate they can “create jobs” in these United States.

They have not.

Instead, they exploit cheaper labor and the utter lack of environmental consideration in LDCs.

The purpose, of course, is to enrich themselves, not “create jobs”.

True that, and he does what troll’s do. After attempting to provoke, he slithers into a corner to JackHoff.

True that, and he does what troll’s do. After attempting to provoke, he slithers into a corner to JackHoff.

I think you mean prima facie, unless you’re confusing it with focaccia. It means at first sight… so, “You’re recognition of gibberish is at first sight of your expertise in the subject of gibberish”

Something of a triumph, as you’ve managed to take a pretentiousness out of the realm of posing/posturing with a fanciful turn of phrase and brought it down home to being pretentious about knowing what words mean.

Wouldn’t be the first time Broccolli got caught playing with his sock-puppet, right mods?

THREEDOLLARBILL—have you adjusted you meds lately? 

One doesn’t “star into a mirror”; however, one may star in a film. In your case it might be One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.

And WTF is a “perpentency”

So, you’re reply to the question is…..??

THREEDOLLARBILL is known for frequent non sequiturs and malapropisms. It’s why he admires Bush.

When Bush said ”We cannot let terrorists and rogue nations hold this nation hostile or hold our allies hostile”, THREEDOLLARBILL agreed with every word.

Tech tip of the day: Hit “like” in error? Hit it again to “unlike”

Cheers

True that, though there’s something to be said for delaying Armageddon for a few months.

OK makes sense now.

Some real trolls on this board these days.

Hand slapped again………….ok.I can handle it……..I’ll watch my spelling closer! Thanks

Yep, it happens now and then in spite of my attempt to be proper and careful, I have an embarrassing brain fart! Thanks for the tutorial.

Bill Maher is a funny guy!!

I think so as well. He certainly seems to crack up his guests. 

Oh they created ‘em alrighty…in Asia.

I was wondering when someone was going to start mocking the “Job Creator” meme. Well done, Bill.

Slavery had nothing to do with the civil war? The Dred Scott decision had no precipitating effect? Just the Railroads – which one fired Fort Sumter, the Southern Pacific?

How about the presence of infidels near Mecca? Do they hate us for that?

Since you are a religious fanatic based on previous posts, I expect you to produce jobs through your prayers, which means that you should be praying, not typing..

Note: The Emancipation Proclamation was issued in 1863, when the war was going badly for the north and mr. lincoln needed some good PR. The issue precipitating southern secession was tariffs. The south wanted low tariffs to promote agricultural produce dependent on slave labor. The north wanted high tariffs to encourage the growth of industry, like railroads, coal, steel, and the bankers who cobbled the whole thing together. No agreement was possible. the south exercised what they thought was their right to secede, but mr lincoln and his sponsors considered divorce unacceptable, for the sake of their child, the transcontinental railroad. When the south decided to go, they perceived union military installations unwelcome, and treated them as occupiers. The railroads disliked the thought of their transcontinental project running through another country, and the fight was on to hold states unwilling to abide each other together into an oversized, unmanageable nation for the sake of corporate expansion.
Dred Scott had some affect. The railroads railroading mr. lincoln into war were serving the north, and and profiting so  immensely as to not want any backwards cotton farmers messing with their good thing.
Do you honestly think the crap they taught you in high school was the whole honest picture? Read some Howard Zinn.

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the 10 years of job creator tax breaks hasn’t worked out too well………if these “people” create jobs….where the fuck are they ???  ten years of this type of “social” engineering hasn’t worked….where are these mythical “J.O.B.S.” ?  hiding among the unicorns i’m sure….

he/she can’t tell you…..too much purple kool-ade…..

Every American should have at least two jobs by now.  Of course, in Rick Perry’s Texas those jobs come with a paper hat.

who are the other people in these videos? I’m only interested in Maher.

people and population create jobs… nothing else does… period.

People and population create jobs… nothing else does… Period.

Troll.

For some even if it’s funny they don’t get it.
Bill is always funny.  I love his HBO Show.

Sheeze, can’t you think of a demeaning name!

I was going to use TWOBILL… but it was taken.  Are you still full of sardonic wit or have you spent your load? Troll.