How absurd..   No wonder the Illinois liberal dumbasses are broke.

They’re blowing taxpayer $$$ on nonsense like this.

What a police state.

The fascist police state noose grows ever tighter.

Illinois is in the 7th Circuit so this will have to go up a level before they reach the same conclusion as the 1st Circuit.

http://www.tjcenter.org/2011/08/26/first-circuit-court-of-appeals-finds-that-a-state-law-banning-recording-of-police-officers-in-public-is-unconstitutional/

Just a few weeks ago the

Just remember this folks: Several weeks, in a UNANIMOUS  decision, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit in Boston ruled:

“A citizen’s right to film government officials, including law
enforcement officers, in the discharge of their duties in a public space
is a basic, vital and well-established liberty safeguarded by the First
Amendment.”
Since this was a U.S. court of appeals it holds across the country unless it’s upended by a higher federal court.

This is an outrage.  You should be able to record whatever you can legally see or hear (barring special circumstances regarding privacy or security).  15 years of your life could be taken away for this?  Big government at its worst.

I have lived in IL all of my life and I am not surprised by this. The typical law enforcement officer in IL commits more crimes each day than any other group of people, including drug dealers. 90% of them may be misdemeanors but the sheer volume of crimes makes that other 10% equate to hundreds of serious felonies each year. Pigs never rat out other pigs, even when they witness crimes that would put me or you away for 20+ years. Chicago cops are the worst but the small town cops are cowardly criminals as well.

It seems like a video camera is more dangerous than a gun according to a police officer’s viewpoint.

Little minds, little governments with tiny, cowardly, pinched, autocratic minds at work. And we voted these guys in. 

I’s all about party politics to the single digit IQ crowd. 

Yeah because the camera don’t lie unlike humans…The camera sees all and records all so no lies….

Not true.  It holds for the district courts within the First Circuit.  Another circuit court can hold a differing view.  Resolving conflicting opinions of Circuit Courts is one reason for the Supremes to accept a case.

Explain how this is a liberal policy.

Chicago-Graham Nash,  CSNY

Though your brother’s bound and gagged

And they’ve chained him to a chair

Won’t you please come to Chicago

Just to sing

In a land that’s known as freedom

How can such a thing be fair

Won’t you please come to Chicago

For the help that we can bring

We can change the world

Re-arrange the world

It’s dying … to get better

Politicians sit yourself down

There’s nothing for you here

Won’t you please come to Chicago

For a ride

Don’t ask Jack to help you

‘Cause he’ll turn the other ear

Won’t you please come to Chicago

Or else join the other side

We can change the world

Re-arrange the world

It’s dying … if you believe in justice

It’s dying … and if you believe in freedom

It’s dying … let a man live his own life

It’s dying … rules and regulations, who needs them

Open up the door

Somehow people must be free

I hope the day comes soon

Won’t you please come to Chicago

Show your face

From the bottum of the ocean

To the mountains on the moon

Won’t you please come to Chicago

No one else can take your place

Id give the guy a medal for recording it. 

Must see old movie:   “Medium Cool”……………I have never been the same, since.

Yet it is ok for Everyone (FBI , CIA , Police Force , Corporations , Foreign Countries like Israel ) else  in or out of this country to record any d… thing they wish on and  about the US citizen  24/7. 

Even to keep a permanent data file ,  for future reference.  

If the cops can record you and video tape you in a traffic stop, you should be able to record them if you have the ability and equipment.  Its not a one-way street out there.

I thought your car was considered an extention of your home, so you cannot use security cameras for safety in your own home???  Hmmmmm.

Obsession with Crime and Punishment – Under fascist regimes,
the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people
are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forgo civil
liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police
force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

I agree 100% with you but, this country is quickly becoming a one-way street, we must be aware of what is going on in this country.  It’s not the country we remember as kids.

 Don’t feed this troll.  JHoffax is a total partisan hack.  He loves the left/right paradigm.  Please don’t engage with this total idiot.

Thx, dennycrane! I’ve know so many people who always thought that was a pretty song and never thought about the lyrics. Used to drive me crazy. 

I remember when CSN&Y came through for us all again after Kent State.

Right now I’m big up on this (Sons of 1984) as a holla to the kids at WallStreet:
http://youtu.be/fU0AUitLtt8

Nice

Liberal? How do You come to that conclusion…….way off base there

1) Do it clandestinely.

2) Don’t get caught.

3) Get it on the internet clandestinely, preferably on at least one offshore server.

One thought: personal drones would make this really easy.

Maybe that’s why the FBI faked that Terror Plot involving toy aircraft.

There’s really no value in talking to the likes of that asshole.

Or any total idiot, including you.

If you listen closely during the Grant Park riot footage in the film you can hear one of the actors yell out, “Look out Haskell, (Haskell Wexler directed the film) this is real!”

Tapping laws were passed before the telephone even existed.   Harsh wiretapping laws were passed against recording telephone conversations without giving prior notice, state by state.
I wonder why such long prison sentences were legislated just for recording phone calls decades ago.

No, I’m not..   Big, liberal population centers drag Illinois around by the nose.

It’s a BLUE state..   Period.

During the hiring process, potential police recruits are screened for personality types.  Those with high empathy and low aggression are identified and sidelined.  The typical cop has a high school education, high aggressiveness, loyalty to the ‘team’ and ambivalence towards the law.  There are always exceptions as cops mature with age the same as everyone else, but the basic personality doesn’t change.  These personality traits are required for dealing with violent criminals, but the truth is, there aren’t that many violent crinimals around (despite what the law and order gang would have you believe).  The problems begin when the right personality traits meet the wrong situations –  like administrative traffic stops.  Many completely innocent people end up permaently injured or dead from their encounters with police.  The solution would be to recruit different types to deal with low level administrative infractions and leave the really nasty criminals to the steroid set.

Is it a 1984 police-state yet???

The US government and their agents go to great lengths to prevent their misdeeds from being publicized. Their criminal behavior can’t stand up to public scrutiny.

That is good.  Remember the group the “New Young Radicals?”  The leader made one album and dis-banned.  Every song was great.

You Get What You Give

Wake up kids

We’ve got the dreamers disease

Age 14 we got you down on your knees

So polite, you’re busy still saying please

Fri-enemies, who when you’re down ain’t your friend

Every night we smash their Mercedes-Benz

First we run and then we laugh till we cry

But when the night is falling

and you cannot find the light, light

If you feel your dreams are dying

Hold tight

You’ve got the music in you

Don’t let go

You’ve got the music in you

One dance left

This world is gonna pull through

Don’t give up

You’ve got a reason to live

Can’t forget we only get what we give

Give it to me now!

Four a.m. we ran a miracle mile

were flat broke but hey we do it in style

The bad rich

God’s flying in for your trial

(chorus)

This whole damn world can fall apart

You’ll be ok, follow your heart

You’re in harms way

I’m right behind

Now say youre mine

(chorus)

Fly high

What’s real can’t die

You only get what you give

Just dont be afraid to live

Health insurance rip off lying

FDA big bankers buying

Fake computer crashes dining

Cloning while they’re multiplying

Fashion shoots with Beck and Hanson

Courtney Love and Marilyn Manson

You’re all fakes

Run to your mansions

Come on

We’ll kick your asses!

Don’t let go

One dance left

No shit.  The filming while the cops were going nuts.  The sound track—-even with the late
Wild Man Fischer,  Merry Go Round:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqR1Rql5r8

Not only to prove your innocence, the law has to be equally applied ,  and Illinois has cameras up everywhere in certain areas of the public all over the place in urban areas… they need to apply the same laws to the officials who put those cameras up there on the people… i been there so i know what im talking about… govt intrusion is just as susceptible to the same laws…. and cops are not above the law themselves, the law applies to everyone ,   problem with the police is they want to abuse the procedures to change how the rule of law is applied and can be abused by them.
the law applies to them as well. 

soft-fascism…
  
They don’t want to be taped because law enforcement corruption is systemic.
    
And the GOP actually encourages it too.

Which is why the charges were dropped. They could see the backlash coming from a mile away. They wouldn’t want to be forced to take down all their surveillance toys.

troll.

The ACLU of Illinois — I think I’ll donate.

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the United States jails more people per capita than any other country in the world.
prison graph
home of the free?
yeah, right.

I guess every tv reporter in Illinois is in violation of this one.

how about all the vidcams on the streets, in offices, elevators, everywhere? there’s a reason the thugs in blue want that law…

and it is as racist as jim crow, apartheid south africa or israel…

Looks like my fellow citizens are totally stupid and only
more stupidity will be used by our government to incarcerate the stupid ones. I
question our government every day at work , friends and acquaintances, surprise
to find out over half of those people don’t know the right bestowed by our constitution.
We are a folks of real stupid people..!       

the patriot act, what the tsa does to people in airports with zero probable cause, the police tracks people using these video cell phones …. “restrictive eavesdropping laws in the country”, ha!

Funny how celebrities don’t get much privacy out in the Public..
But Police who are Public Employees and work for the Public, and are out in the Public,
Expect their Privacy…
The Public out in Public don’t get that Privacy these Police expect…
BULLSHIT…

What?

This Man deserves Public Support.

Nice point!

You forgot to mention Newscorp

Or more simply put: Cops are just bullies with permission.

Or you.

Is Illinois allowing the federal government to pickup emails cell calls and monitor computers in their state I mean if its a law that is a state law then how can the federal government be allowed to spy on it’s people. Does the state have camera’s everywhere, come on we know that they do have mics. so who are these people and why did the policemen drop the charges. Was it because he was breaking the law by harassing someone for nothing.  Some of us know how that is. Don’t get me wrong, I believe in a strong and fair police force that has good leadership. What I do not like is a bully in a uniform. And then use some state law to silence the innocent.

Welcome to Amerika, Louie.  The land of the sheep, and the home of the slave.

Unless you are a millionaire, you are presumed guilty until you can prove your innocence beyond any doubt, and even then maybe not.  Recently I was cited for breaking a traffic law that was passed by the Oregon legislature, but not yet signed into law by the Governor.  The JP found me guilty and when I protested he smiled and said I could allways appeal it.  All I had to do was post a $1000 appelate bond.  Free nation, my ass….Banana Republic.

So cops can record, but we cant… Sounds like a police state to me.

George Orwell –  we need an update to 1984.

Gotcha. I’ll try to remember in the future.

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Since most everybody on this site seems to hate police, in the future don’t call 911 for help, check with the closest crackhead.

I don’t hate the police, but the police hate our civil rights! Ever since the Rodney King beating, the police are very defensive about filming them when they knowingly violate citizens. You may find yourself dealing with an abusive policeman and hope someone filming you.