MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski and Willie Geist talked with CNBC's Jim Cramer about U.S. independence from foreign oil.

Cramer said, "there's no political will -- if Jimmy Carter had never been president, may he rest in peace -- people make errors all the time on TV. He created a legacy. The legacy was if we conserve we're wimps, if we're wimps we can't get elected. The darn cardigan sweater has cost us more energy independence. There's a legacy in this country we should burn fuel."

This video is from MSNBC's Morning Joe, broadcast June 16, 2008.

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