A Senate report revealed that former President George Bush and top-ranking officials in his administration approved torture techniques for the prison at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib. Former Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski reveals how soldiers were victims of scapegoating for merely obeying orders.

Karpinski called out former Vice President Dick Cheney on his defense of torture interrogation techniques when he refused to defend those involved in torture at Abu Ghraib. "Mr. former Vice President, if you're saying that this was necessary today and that it produced good intelligence, where were you five years ago, stepping up to the plate and saying, hold on, we can't discuss this because this is classified information, but these soldiers did not design these techniques," said Karpinski with a raised voice.

This video is from MSNBC's Countdown, broadcast Apr. 22, 2009.

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