Sen. Kent Conrad has offered a compromise solution for reforming health care using insurance cooperatives to expand coverage without direct government control. Gov. Howard Dean says cooperatives won't solve the problem. "It doesn't fix the American problem. I think the co-ops are a fine idea but they won't work," Dean told MSNBC's Contessa Brewer.

"The co-opts are too small to compete with the big private insurance companies. They will kill the co-opts simply by undercutting them and using their financial clout to do it," said Dean.

"This is a compromise that's designed to deal with problems in the Senate but it doesn't deal with problems in America. And I think it's time for the Senate to stop playing politics. Do what has to be done. If the Republicans don't want to get on board and they certainly have never done -- look the Republicans were against Medicare when we put that in. If the Republicans don't want to get onboard then we can do this without the Republicans. We have the votes to do a public health insurance option without a single Republican vote and without the one or two Democrats that have said 'no' and if that's what we have to do. We've got to do the right thing."

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This video is from MSNBC's News Live, broadcast June 15, 2009.

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