In an interview aired Wednesday, former Fox News conspiracy host Glenn Beck seemed to talk National Rifle Association board member Ted Nugent down from staging some kind of armed revolt against the government, urging that the Waco cultists were "really nice guys," but "you want your day in court."
Nugent called into Beck's radio show Wednesday for a chance at clearing the record over his comments at a recent gun show appearance, when he was caught on camera saying that he and some "buddies" were ready for another fight along the lines of the revolutionary-era Battle of Concord, famous for the "shot heard 'round the world" that kicked off the war for independence.
The Detroit native and longtime southern rocker said he recently spent time with CNN reporter Deb Feyerick, who he said mostly just asked him "gushy and positive" questions. But he was bothered when she touched on "questions about an armed revolution building steam across the interland."
"I squinted at her and said, I don't know what you're talking about," Nugent insisted. "I know there might be someone talking about that, but I hang out with some pretty wild eyed guys and I've never heard a hint of any reference to an armed revolution. We're going to have a revolution at the voting booth."
He instead blamed New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I) for causing "some people" to become "very frustrated and angry,"leading them to say "something that hinted at" armed revolt. But he insisted, again, "we're going to vote the bad guys out of office as soon as possible." He also insisted that every time Feyerick touched on that subject, "I made sure I mentioned that if you argue with me, you would be taking the side of the devil."
The wide-ranging conversation then turned to the media and how awful they are, and suddenly Beck announces that he has "officially given up" on the GOP. "I don't... I don't care for them at all anymore," he said. "They won't get a dime. I will campaign against people giving them any money."
"Isn't that a shame, Glenn?" Nugent reacted. "I agree, but it's a shame. We have to work to fix that. Yeah."
Beck said that he does not think the party is "fixable," and instead proposed to Nugent that they form their own separatist group, based upon "principles" instead of just the desire to win. Nugent was on board immediately. "I concur," he said. "I concur the time has never been more obvious than right now."
Then the conversation shifted into a more sinister tone, with Beck seeming to discourage the possibility of any future incidents like the standoff at Ruby Ridge in 1992 that left a white separatist family dead -- giving impetus to Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, who cited the massacre as part of his motivation for killing 168 people.
"People have to know, don't stand off," Beck said. "Do not do that. You call this number and somebody in an attorney firm will come and represent you because you want your day in court. You want your day in court."
"I think you're absolutely correct," Nugent said. "And that positive sense, that common sense is alive and well in hundreds of sheriffs and sheriff departments in this country that are standing up to this government and the federal government with their constitutional violating Second Amendment infringement. So, I think there is a growing pulse. But you're right about that. If you attempt to stand up to what's right, you will be shot and killed."
Beck closed the interview by blaming the Clinton administration for the massacre in Waco as well, insisting that the local sheriff thought the Branch Davidian cultists, who stockpiled hundreds of guns and hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammunition, were actually just a bunch of "really nice guys."
"If the federal government would have gone to the sheriff, they sheriff probably could have gotten that all done without killing all of the families," he said.
"I believe that," Nugent replied.
This video is from "The Blaze TV," aired Wednesday, January 30, 2013.
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