Talk show host Ellen DeGeneres put self-avowed conservative Caitlyn Jenner on the spot on Tuesday by noting the discrepancy between her political activism and the policies endorsed by her party of choice.
“It’s not a bad thing,” DeGeneres said regarding Jenner’s political beliefs. “The only thing is, a lot of Republicans — I don’t want to speak for everyone — want to vote against all of the issues that you as a woman and you as a trans person person would want someone to support.”
“I agree with that in some cases,” Jenner responded, before DeGeneres interjected by naming same-sex marriage. Jenner called it “gay marriage” before responding.
“I have to admit, I remember 15 years ago, whatever it was, this whole gay marriage issue came up — at first, I was not for it,” the reality show star said. “I thought, ‘I’m a traditionalist. I’m older than most people in the audience, you know? I kind of like tradition, and it’s always been a man and a woman. I’m thinking, ‘I don’t quite get it.’
“But as time has gone on, I think, like a lot of people on this issue, I have really changed my thinking here to, ‘I don’t ever want to stand in front of anybody’s happiness,'” she continued. “That’s not my job, OK? If that word, ‘marriage,’ is really, really that important to you, I can go with it.”
“It’s funny, ’cause you’re still kind of a little not on board with it,” DeGeneres replied.
“No, I’m on board,” Jenner insisted. “It is gonna be, pretty much, the law of the land. So I still feel like, I’m OK with it.”
“Marriage is an important word because marriage is marriage and equality is equality,” the host said. “We want the same word that everyone else has. It wouldn’t be ‘civil union.’ So equality is important for all of us. And I think that’s what you’re fighting for with what you’re doing.”
When Jenner announced she was trans this past April, she said she would contact leading Republican lawmakers John Boehner and Mitch McConnell to advocate for the trans committee.
Watch the discussion, as posted online, below.
[h/t Entertainment Weekly]