During a Tuesday appearance on “The Daily Show with Trevor Noah,” MSNBC’s Joy Reid somewhat psychoanalyzed President Donald Trump and his fascination with crowd sizes and ratings.
While in Corpus Christi, Texas Tuesday to visit FEMA responders, Trump addressed a small makeshift gathering of people and commented that it was a great crowd. The internet quickly blasted him for acting like he was holding some sort of campaign rally after people fought for their lives during a storm.
“I don’t think he sees the human scale of misery,” Reid told Noah. “He said something to the effect of ‘Harvey’s a really nice name, but you know the storm — not nice, not nice.’ No kidding. It’s a hurricane!”
The same was true for the pardon of Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Reid explained that people assumed he was doing it on Friday during a hurricane to bury it. “But he said, ‘No, I knew it would bring great ratings,'” Reid recalled.
“If you look at Donald Trump and how he’s tried to do his entire life, is kind of do a show,” she continued. “And he always wants to have a bigger and better show. And even being president, he’s just a show. He looks to see, how is it rating and how many people are watching Donald Trump.”
Noah wondered when Trump would eventually be impeached and Reid explained that as long as Republicans are in control of everything in Washington, it’ll never happen.
“This is the same guy who was running for president, they know who he is,” Reid said. “I think they’ve made a very crass calculation that they’ll accept anything Donald Trump does as long as they get what they want. And as long as he’s there to explain to his base the tax cuts for billionaires they want are the things that they want for themselves, as long as he’s there to translate that into Trump fan-ese, they don’t care what he does.”
Meanwhile, Reid says that Democrats aren’t known for being organized and they certainly aren’t the party that goes for the jugular the way the GOP does. Now that they look for consensus, they never come up with a coherent frame for anything. Her example was to say that even though Democrats know that they’re the party of black and brown people, LGBT people and of women they still long to be the party of the “Pabst Blue Ribbon voter.”
“That is a Republican voter. It has migrated from being a member of the Democratic Party to a Republican Party vote and it has done for the last 40 years,” Reid went on. “Democrats just can’t accept it. They need to learn that those Archie Bunker voters of the 1970s are gone. So they can long for it all they want, you’re not going to convince them by saying ‘we’re going to give you free college.’ That’s not why they’re voting.”
She argued that Democrats keep trying to use economic lures to move them back in but it doesn’t work because they’re voting their values. Democratic voters are the same way, however. Those in New York and California that live in wealthy areas consistently vote for higher taxes against their own economic interest. It’s just like the working class white voters who vote for lower taxes for millionaires and billionaires. They too, are voting values over economics. Reid claimed that the economic battles have been won and lost and Democrats aren’t getting those back.
The only way to win is by going out to get Democrats and those with Democratic Party values out to vote. “They’re too busy longing for the other party that they don’t go get their people out to vote,” Reid said.
Watch the full interview below: