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Maddow predicts what 'could break' America is not the indictment but the MAGA reaction to it
March 30, 2023
MSNBC host Rachel Maddow came into the studio, despite Friday not being her night to do the show, to discuss the indictment of former President Donald Trump.
"I do think there's one thing we all need to be preparing for here that we are maybe not prepared for and that is what I think is the very high probability that this is going to be boring," Maddow hoped. "I'm not sure we're prepared for that."
She explained that, "So much of the court battle is motions and debates, and I'm not sure either side's ideologically prepared, I don't think the punditry is prepared, I don't think you are prepared, because this feels like really big news and really big news feels like it has a lot of momentum. But as far as I can tell, this is about a legal proceeding starting, and if you look at the kind of legal proceeding this is going to be, I think we need to prepare ourselves for the fact that, A, this may go on for a really long time, and it might go on where the incremental additional news on this news story each day is something that feels like reading the small print on the back of a lottery ticket or even your car rental insurance waiver."
"This might really be boring," Maddow warned, because although this is the first time a former president has ever been prosecuted, the case itself "isn't something that is unprecedented in the world of criminal law, the actual adjudication of cases like this one, as much as we know about what kind of case this is, before the indictment's unsealed, the actual adjudication of cases like this is often a very boring thing. I will tell you, since this particular district attorney, Alvin Bragg, has been the district attorney for Manhattan, his office has reportedly charged falsification of business records as a felony count 117 times. He has not been D.A. for that long, but in that time he's been indicted on this charge 11 times. And that's what you call trivia because it's not that important. Not one of those cases was interesting enough to make the news on its own terms."
Additionally, Maddow said, this case has in some ways "already happened to a certain degree."
"The former president's business, called the Trump Organization, was not that long ago charged with felony tax evasion," said Maddow. "Felony tax evasion is a kind of cousin of the charge reportedly considered by the grand jury in their indictment today. It was absolutely fascinating news when the felony tax evasion charges were announced against Donald Trump's business. But then, you remember what happened thereafter? ... once they got a jury, they had a trial, and was a long trial, [with] lots of testimony about, you know, alleged criminal tax fraud. And then there was a verdict and you remember where you were when the verdict came out? No, you don't, you probably don't because it wasn't a moment where the earth moved. Maybe it moved for you. It didn't move for me."
Ultimately, Maddow said, what "could break" America is not the indictment itself — but Trump's supporters' potentially ugly nationwide reaction to it
Maddow then welcomed former special assistant district attorney Catherine Christian on her show, where she predicted "a circus" on Tuesday when Trump is arraigned and booked.
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Former Vice President Mike Pence joined most Republicans Thursday in casting doubt on Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's motives in the indictment of Donald Trump.
The former president was indicted on more than 30 counts, CNN reports. His first court appearance is scheduled for Tuesday.
“I think the unprecedented indictment of a former president of the United States on a campaign finance issue is an outrage, and it appears to millions of Americans be nothing more than a political prosecution that's driven by a prosecutor who literally ran for office on a pledge to indict the former president,” Pence told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer in a primetime interview scheduled before Trump’s indictment was known publicly.
“Prosecutors make discretionary decisions about what they bring all the time. Federal prosecutors passed on this, the Manhattan DA initially delayed it, passed on it, but when you have an attorney general in New York and a Manhattan DA that targeted, one particular American in their campaigns, I think that offends the notion of the overwhelming majority of the American people who believe in fairness, who believe in equal treatment before the law, and this appears to be just one more example, Wolf, of the kind of two-tiered justice system that the American people have had enough.”
Pence is considering a presidential run himself and said during travels around the country Trump’s legal troubles don’t appear to be on the radar of ordinary Americans.
RELATED: Stephanie Grisham: 'Voters are not stupid' — and Republicans can't wave away Trump's indictment
“The media's obsession about these investigations into Donald Trump I think is being lost on the American people,” Pence said.
Pence spoke critically of the former president over incendiary remarks on social media, including a statement that "death and destruction" would likely follow charges being brought against him.
“There's no excuse for that kind of rhetoric on either side of this debate,” Pence said.
Pence declined to say whether a person who is indicted should run for president, but acknowledged that presidents shouldn’t be immune from prosecution.
“No one is above the law, including former presidents, let me be clear on that point, and the American people know this,” Pence said.
“But in this case, a controversy over campaign finance, I can't speak to the merits of this case at all, but I can speak to the issue emanating out of a question over campaign finance should never have risen to the level to bring an unprecedented and historic prosecution” of the former president.
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Stephanie Grisham: 'Voters are not stupid' — and Republicans can't wave away Trump's indictment
March 30, 2023
Republicans are already going to bat for former President Donald Trump following his indictment by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, attacking the prosecution as illegitimate.
But this is not going to fly with voters, said former Trump Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham on CNN's "OutFront" on Thursday.
"So Kevin McCarthy just tweeting a moment ago, 'Alvin Bragg as irreparably damaged our country in an attempt to interfere in our presidential election,'" said anchor Erin Burnett. "Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, of course, the presumed at number-two nominee for the GOP, although undeclared so far, coming out and saying of Bragg, 'He is stretching the law to target a political opponent. Florida will not assist in an extradition request, given the questionable circumstances at issue.' And the former Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson, also a likely candidate in the GOP field, 'It is a dark day for America when a former president is indicted on criminal charges. Donald Trump should not be the next president, but that should be decided by the voters.'"
"Stephanie, obviously interesting he took the hardest line there, but from McCarthy and from DeSantis, loud and clear," added Burnett. "They're going to slam the indictment, but not endorse the indictee."
"Yeah well, coming from McCarthy, that doesn't surprise me at all, I've got to say that," said Grisham. "And I think that DeSantis is playing to play to Trump's base. But I do believe that once this indictment — people are able to see it, the rubber is going to really meet the road for Republicans. Is this what the party stands for? Right now?"
"It's one man with multiple investigations, questionable morals, and somebody who takes the air out of the room every single day rather than us talking about immigration, crime, etcetera," Grisham continued. "And I've got to say, how long are we going to say it's the world's biggest conspiracy that DOJ, a state A.G., local D.A.s, Members of Congress, and the media are all out to get this one man? Voters are just not stupid. And I have to say that I think his base is loud on social media, his base is very loud at his rallies, but people are watching and waiting and seeing his corruption, and his base is clearly not loud enough at the polls. You could see that in the last two elections, the midterms and the last presidential election."
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