Ex-Watergate prosecutor: There’s enough public evidence of Trump obstruction that I could get a conviction right now
Jill Wine-Banks served as a deputy Watergate prosecutor and as General Counsel of the United States Army.
January 06, 2018
Former assistant Watergate prosecutor Jill Wine-Banks believes that enough evidence already exists in the public realm to charge President Donald Trump with obstruction of justice.
MSNBC anchor Alex Witt interviewed Wine-Banks, who prosecuted organized crime for the Department of Justice before Watergate, explains why her opinion on obstruction of justice charges changed so much within the last year.
"What evidence do you have that you have seen that makes you confident you could put together an obstruction case?" Witt asked.
"I think that Mueller probably has much more evidence than I do, I'm only looking at what is publicly available. I can take a number of pieces and say that a reasonable jury would see those pieces as fitting together and spelling out obstruction," Wine-Banks explained.
"So you have things like the firing of Comey, but you also have supporting that the letter that he drafted that said he was firing Comey because of the Russia investigation," Wine-Banks reminded. "He said that to Lester Holt on NBC, saying that he was firing him because of that. He told the Russians that he was getting rid of Comey because of the Russia investigation."
"He also pardoned Joe Arpaio and sent a clear message to all witnesses against him that they didn't have to cooperate with the FBI or with Mueller, that he would pardon them even if they were held in contempt of court or congress for not answering the questions or for perjury even," Wine-Banks continued.
"There are so many pieces that when you put them together, you go, okay, he fired Sally Yates but he kept Flynn," Wine-Banks noted. "Why did he do that? That has to have something to do with it."
"And his constant attack on the media, the FBI and Mueller is definitely part of what looks like an obstruction to me," Wine-Banks suggested. "I think the new book Fire and Fury is matched by the fury of his response and retaliation for it and the pants on fire lies that he has told throughout the year of his presidency."
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