'This doesn't end well for Republicans': MSNBC panel piles on Mike Johnson after interview
October 06, 2025
An attempt by House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) to paint Democrats as the bad guys responsible for the government shutdown flopped miserably on MSNBC moments after the end of an interview with “Way Too Early” host Ali Vitali.
On Monday morning, Vitali pressed the GOP leader on why Republicans are not working to end the impasse with Democrats, as he fell back on the debunked talking point about the opposing party wanting to hand undocumented immigrants Affordable Care Act medical benefits.
No sooner had the interview ended than the entire “Morning Joe” panel piled on, with longtime Washington Post columnist David Ignatius pointing out Johnson is not doing his GOP colleagues any favors.
Co-host Joe Scarborough kicked things off by calling Johnson's arguments “misinformation” before adding, “I'm sorry, I had to laugh when the speaker said [OMB director] Russ Vought does not enjoy this. No, this is exactly what he wants and is exactly what he promised in 2025 when he said that something along the lines of their job was to make federal workers' lives miserable.”
After Scarborough pointed out, “I mean, it is, again, it is just grossly misleading and again, [he] tries to brush by the fact that 11 million Americans are going to lose their health care because of this big beautiful bill,” Vitali responded, “Which is exactly why I had one Democratic congressman on my show this morning to react to the point that the speaker made when I asked if, bottom line, Americans should plan to pay more for their health care next year.
"And he didn't say no. He said Republicans have tried to make costs lower, but his exact quote was, ‘Boy, I hope not.’”
Turning to Ignatius, Scarborough remarked, “I know you've been around Washington long enough to see it, just like me. You never know where these shutdowns go, but I will just say it again, as a guy that sat through one as a Republican, they usually turn against Republicans.”
“And so I was left with the thought, we must be close to the beginning of some behind-the-scenes conversations if he's as eager to talk about negotiating a way out of this as he sounded,” Ignatius offered. “So maybe, Joe, he gets your point: this doesn't end well for Republicans. You know, the fear is it's not going to end well for anybody if it goes on much longer.”