Ex-Trump aide cuts off ex-president's advisor during interview: 'That was incompetence'

Was Trump's presidency remembered for omnipotence or incompetence?

CNN's Anderson Cooper's panel hosted President Donald Trump's former campaign adviser David Urban and former Trump White House official Alyssa Farah Griffin to weigh in a second Trump term.

Griffin parroted former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) saying that Trump could be an "existential threat to the United States" and noted that she, along with Trump's former Secretary of Defense (Mark Esper), former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Gen. Mark A. Milley) and his former National Security Adviser (John Bolton) all fall in with Cheney and pleaded "folks need to wake up."

Urban tried to plead his case that Trump was not detrimental to the republic.

"It's me against the world here, I think, right," he said. "Congresswoman Cheney has done a great job, good service to her country in her role. She's out selling books now and listen, I don't think it's an existential threat."

He said that there are "plenty of guardrails" that "were in place the first administration" and predictably would keep a second Trump presidency in check.

Look at this: Republicans held the Senate, the House, and White House and if Trump was so omnipotent, we would have got a lot of things done—"

Griffin interrupted.

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"I could argue that was incompetence," she told him.

Urban shot back: "So all a sudden now he's going to become this über successful guy?"

Democratic strategist Van Jones then jumped in to say that the gloves will come off should Trump get the keys back to 1600 Pennsylvania.

"This time, he's been there before," he said. "Done it before. He knows how [other branches] blocked him and stopped him."

"He's going to be a lot more effective if he gets there."

To which Griffin tried to crack the central reason why Trump is running; and while it may be retribution, much of it is self-survival saying, "I think he's running to stay out of jail I think he's genuinely afraid of a federal conviction and so he's running to pardon himself."

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