'He listened to us': Trump lawyer debates CNN's Kaitlan Collins on testifying advice

For seven weeks, Todd Blanche became the fixture esquire shadowing his galactic client former President Donald Trump as he defended against charges of covering up hush money payments to a porn star alleging an affair, in order to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

And when it came down to putting the cards on the table, Trump held off going under oath to testify.

Hours after his client was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records, Blanche defended the decision of the now convicted felon Trump for remaining silent when he had in the past pledged to testify.

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"That's a very personal question to him and to me, honestly, and it's a very difficult question," he told CNN's Kaitlan Collins on "The Source."

"Of course, he wanted to testify and I don't say that because that's what he has said — he wanted to get a story out."

But Blanche said a lot of it weighed on the actions on Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan. The judge, he said, allowed the prosecution's request to ask Trump about other issues if he were to take the stand.

"If he took the stand... some of those questions were really complicated to answer because there's still appeals going on," Blanche explained. "And there's a lot there's a lot of decision points that go into whether somebody testifies ultimately, it's his decision and he listened to us and he relied on our counsel and he reached the decision, that he, that he thought was right, which I very much agreed with."

Collins continued to question whether the decision could have been a factor in how the jury decided his fate on Thursday.

"So that means your counsel was for him to not take the stand," she hit back.

Blanche backpedaled, responding: "I'm not going to tell you what my counsel was."

"He said he relied on counsel and he went with that decision and he didn't take the stand and ultimately," Collins clarified.

Blanche attempting to be more formal came back: "It was his, it was, his decision... and I'd never say to somebody, 'Don't take the stand,' right? That's their decision and that's a decision that they have to make. But I want them to know what will happen on the good and the bad if they do take the stand. So no regrets on him not taking the stand."

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