Trump's V.P. hopefuls are willing to 'commit the crime' Mike Pence wouldn't: ex-prosecutor
Former President Donald Trump is likely to have a running mate who is willing to rig the electoral count for him, the way that former Vice President Mike Pence refused to do last time, warned former prosecutor John Flannery on Friday's edition of MSNBC's "The Beat."
This comes shortly after Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) and Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY), both rumored to be shortlisters for Trump's running mate, both said they would have stopped the count if they were in Pence's position.
"As I mentioned, politicians, including members of Congress in the Speech and Debate clause, can say many things," said anchor Ari Melber, himself an attorney. "Even if we might find them completely objectionable, horrific, some things they say. What they are talking about is conduct that, if they did it, they could be running mates, they could be vice presidents, and now they're saying we would take what has been indicted as fraudulent electors and use that to overthrow the election. Is that them floating essentially a criminal plot?"
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"Well, it's a Coup 2, I suppose, if the circumstances are similar to what happened in the first effort at a coup that failed, the insurrection, and Trump lost and Biden won, we could be in the same place if we didn't prepare for it," said Flannery. "You ask, what should we do in anticipation, and I think we have to take it seriously. You have two people and there are others saying that in order to be VP, they're prepared to commit the crime that Pence would not commit."
"Keep in mind — and you and I have been over this — I think this is closer to home, in Article 14, Section 3, they took an oath," Flannery continued. "And you just heard them talk about how they did what they did then and they're prepared to do it again, I suppose, and they should be barred from appearing. And I think if we get into this problem with Coup 2 and people are wondering how to deal with it, we can't be arresting them on the floor of the House when it goes off the rails, assuming there's a Republican control of the House and Republican control of the Senate."
"And so what we have to do is anticipate that," he added. "And I think the way we anticipate it is if we're put on notice that they're going to violate their oath and try to overthrow the government in a new and fine way in their mind, and they present this clear and present danger to our democracy, I think we have to deal with it. I think we have to deal with these two people. We make the mistake too often of laughing this off. We did nothing with the senators and the members of the Congress when this arose to investigate them."
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