'High risk' MSNBC host confesses fear of Trump's promised 'retribution and brutality'
MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace confessed that she's growing increasingly nervous about her life in the United States if former President Donald Trump wins the presidency.
Panelists on Monday addressed the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, the plan created for Trump's possible second term by some of his loyalists. Among them included authoritarian expert Ruth Ben-Ghiat and former Congressman David Jolly (R-FL), among others.
After Jolly discussed the comments from the previous guest, Yale historian Tim Snyder, Wallace stepped in to confirm her growing anxieties about her safety in Trump's America.
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"I guess Tim Snyder has peeled a layer of skin off of me, and I'll just say it," Wallace confessed. "I'm scared of Trump doing the things that he said he's going to do. I'm not scared of the things he hasn't thought of yet. I'm scared of him completing the projects that are underway. Because in a two-journalist household, we're high-risk, right? And I think, Ruth, your admonition and Timothy Snyder's explanation of what fear does, you know, fear creates a frenzy. Fear makes the brain adapt ahead of time, makes people give power away to the authoritarian as a sort of hedge."
She confessed that she's seeing it happen all around her in the media and politics.
"Let's just be brutally honest and keep that faith with our audience even when they don't like the things that we cover and the things we talk about," Wallace continued. "But the threat of authoritarianism, that's almost too soft. Fascism is a closer description of the retribution and brutality that Trump is promising and saying out loud. Which — again, is to say nothing of what he hasn't telegraphed yet."
It made her wonder how to get through the coming months. The Republican Party platform just softened the language on choice and marriage equality, but Wallace doesn't buy it.
"Trump would ban abortion in this country," she said. "Leaving it to the states doesn't mean leaving abortion rights on the table. It means that. What the states are doing is criminalizing. They're making mifepristone in Louisiana, a controlled substance, which means arrest. The use of prosecutions and criminality in the second Trump term is something America's never — we've never lived like that before. And that's what he's promising to do."
Writing in his book "Revenge," Michael Cohen talked about life as a Trump target behind bars. The Department of Justice down to a Bureau of Prisons employee, tried to force the ex-Trump lawyer to sign away his First Amendment rights to score his freedom. Cohen believes Trump was using the government against him to keep him quiet about the plethora of things he watched Trump do over the years.
Now, as the election approaches, Cohen isn't afraid to admit that he's considered asylum if Trump takes office in 2025.
Cohen told Raw Story that after his lawsuit against Trump was dismissed, no Trump foe was safe.
"It's a terrible, terrible decision," Cohen said. "This goes well past me."
Journalists writing for non-state outlets in Russia and Hungary have been targeted or jailed. Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich has been in a Russian prison since March 2023. Putin has claimed he's a spy and not a reporter.
Speaking to UK's ITV in November, Cohen said he would absolutely seek asylum if Trump returns to the White House.
Lincoln Project co-founder Rick Wilson tried to caution Republicans by warning them that they would eventually end up on Trump's list.
"And some of you people who think that you're his loyalists right now, someday, you will step wrong," he continued. "Some day, you will make a mistake. Some day you will piss him off. And guess what? All of those magnificent tools that you're cheerleading for right now 'Yay! Trump has ultimate power!' They'll turn on you."
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