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‘Loyalties are being tested’ as 'another MAGA power struggle spills into view': analyst

An analyst says that a MAGA power struggle has ensued over President Donald Trump's pick and Elon Musk — and now "loyalties are being tested."

Musk, the richest man in the world who has previously called himself "first buddy," criticized Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, Trump's pick for interim administrator of National Aeronautics and Space Administration, writes Salon's Sophia Tesfaye. The move reveals how "the team he assembled has been besieged by a series of internal disputes. Now another MAGA power struggle has spilled into public view, laying bare the movement’s dissonance about power and progress."

"Musk, who had a rather messy departure from his official government role in May, is once again making waves with a social media broadside against another Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy," Tesfaye writes. "With Trump’s man is under attack by the MAGA movement’s favorite billionaire, loyalties are being tested."

At the center of the friction is Musk's Spacex 2021 $2.9 billion contract for the Human Landing System (HLS) technology and NASA's decision last year to delay further moon missions.

"The agency’s current plan requires SpaceX’s Starship to be refueled in space, a feat that has never been accomplished. The company has tested Starship 11 times," Tesfaye writes. "'SpaceX had the contract for Artemis III,' Duffy said. 'The problem is they’re behind. They push their timelines out, and we’re in a race against China. The president and I want to get to the Moon in this president’s term.'"

SpaceX and Blue Origin reportedly have until this Wednesday to ramp up the project. But the timing — with midterms coming — adds an additional challenge as the Republican Party tries to maintain its control in Congress.

" Trump loyalists in the White House are picking Musk’s side in this duel, blaming Duffy for biting the multi-billion-dollar hand that bankrolls MAGA," Tesfaye writes.

It's further created in-fighting among MAGA and “those closest to the president appear to be livid,” according to NOTUS.

“Duffy picking a fight with Elon doesn’t sit well with a lot of people because Elon is going to be a pretty big factor in the midterms,” a senior White House official told the Washington Free Beacon.

Elon Musk and SpaceX have big plans for Florida. Here's why Floridians don't like them

This is such a breakable age. Things we thought would last are, to our surprise, now in danger of shattering.

You think our state parks will always be preserved? Nope, we’re going to try to put golf courses in them. Think the Everglades will be protected forever? Sorry, we’re building a prison camp there. Think our system for buying environmental land will be free of political influence? Too bad, here’s a shady campaign contributor getting $83 million for four acres in Destin.

Last week I heard about another target for breakage, one that I thought would never see a crack: The natural lands serving as a buffer around Cape Canaveral.

Space X, the aerospace company owned by Elon Musk, wants to make big changes at the Cape. It wants to boost the number of rockets it launches and lands there, as well as boosting the size of the rocket involved.

“SpaceX is seeking [federal] approval for up to 44 Starship-Super Heavy launches per year from NASA’s Kennedy Space Center,” Florida Today reported last month. The proposal has drawn opposition from residents and officials from Titusville, Cape Canaveral, and Brevard County, as well as environmental groups worried about the potential harm to nesting sea turtles, manatees, and endangered right whales.

They’re also concerned about increased pollution, rampant water waste, a huge loss of public access, lots more sonic booms and — not to be rude — the tendency of Space X rockets to blow up. There have been four explosions so far this year.

“Yes, we have seen those headlines,” said Katie Bauman of the Surfrider Foundation, one of the most vocal environmental groups challenging the expansion.

Space X called one of those explosions “a sudden energetic event.” That’s not the kind of energy folks on the Space Coast want to see in their backyard.

But it does give a fresh context to this comment about Space X’s impact on the region by Republican U.S. Rep. Mike Haridopolos: “We are booming, literally, right now.”

The water goes pfft!

“Starship-Super Heavy” sounds like the latest iteration of the “We Built This City” rock group that started as Jefferson Airplane, morphed into Jefferson Starship then became plain Starship.

Instead, it’s actually “the world’s most powerful launch vehicle ever developed,” according to the Space X website. It’s designed to take cargo or astronauts into Earth orbit, to the Moon or even Mars, yet be as reusable as Tupperware.

“Starship and Super Heavy are designed to return to the launch site and be caught following their flight, with the ability to rapidly turn around and launch again,” the company says.

For now, its launch operations have been confined to Texas. Although Musk has had successes, repeated explosions — like the one in March that Reuters reported left “fiery debris streaking through the dusk skies near South Florida” — are something Musk dismissed as “a minor setback.”

During an Aug. 22 Space Coast Symposium speech, SpaceX Vice President of Launch Kiko Dontchev told the crowd, “You’re going to get a vetted machine that shows up ready to party.”

Clearly his definition of “party” is different from mine, and from that of a lot of the people who live and work near the Kennedy Space Center.

“Constituents and businesses have expressed concern over the cumulative environmental effects of high frequency launches, including emissions, chemical runoff, and disturbances to protected coastal and marine habitats,” Brevard County Commissioner Katie Delaney wrote in a letter to federal officials.

The Federal Aviation Administration must decide whether to permit this, which requires an environmental impact statement. In a first draft, FAA officials determined the Starship liftoffs — punctuated by up to 152 sonic booms per year — would generate “few” significant environmental impacts at Launch Complex 37.

That’s not how Bill Fisk sees it.

Fisk, a Florida native who grew up watching the Apollo launches with his dad and grandfather, is both the president of the Space Coast Audubon Society and vice chair of the Turtle Coast Sierra Club. For my edification, he catalogued the biggest impacts.

Start with the water, which Bauman of Surfrider brought up as well.

Space X expects to use 400,000 gallons of water per launch and 68,000 gallons per landing, all to cool down hot equipment. That plus other uses for the site put the expected total water use for Space X at 50 million gallons per year.

Yet Brevard is already running low on potable water for residents and businesses, Fisk said.

“It’s getting worse as the developers get more leeway, so the water supply keeps going PFFFT!” he said.

After its use, the remaining Space X fresh water would flow into local waterways that are supposed to be brackish, messing up their salt content. That includes the struggling Indian River Lagoon, where there’s a need to bring back sea grass beds as a nursery for fish and a food source for manatees.

“There is a clear and direct negative impact to the physical environment of the area … by adding excessive amounts of fresh water into the pristine local estuary,” the Southeastern Fisheries Association said in a comment letter to the FAA.

Local fishermen are already complaining about falling space debris damaging their equipment, Fisk said. Crumbling local roads can’t handle the increase in fuel truck traffic, he said. Titusville is bringing in an engineer to examine its public buildings to see if they can handle the increased vibrations.

After all, Fisk said, when the early space program was being built, “everything was built fast and it was built cheap.”

Race to space

The waters off Cape Canaveral saw the last sea battle of the Revolutionary War (we won). That marked the last big news there for a couple of centuries.

But then a Mexican cemetery blew up.

In the 1940s, the American military tested missiles by firing them from New Mexico, but one went off course and blew up a Juarez graveyard. Mexican officials complained, so the military looked for a safer launch site.

They found it at in Florida at what was then known as the Banana River Naval Air Station. The place was isolated, the land already belonged to the government, and the location near the equator meant rockets got an extra boost when they took off. Everyone seemed happy.

Then, in 1957, Sputnik changed everything.

Suddenly, America was running second to the Soviets and the Space Race was on. Cape Canaveral became the focus of a U.S. space program playing catch-up.

Brevard’s population boomed as engineers, scientists, and construction crews poured into the once-sleepy towns.

“The beach mushroomed and became sheathed in schlock,” author Herb Hiller wrote. ”Everything was built quick and short-term. Motels in Cocoa Beach and Titusville flashed neon rockets and dancing girls. Inside, sequined cuties danced and did more. Motel Row became Sin Strip.”

In the run-up to the moon landing, the work force at Canaveral peaked at 26,500 in 1968. But then Space Coast residents found out what any coal miner could’ve told them: It’s no fun living in a company town when the company winds down.

A year after the historic Apollo 11 mission, the work force fell to 15,000. Rocket scientists were pumping gas. Families who couldn’t find a buyer left their keys in the front door of their houses as they left town.

Yet, during the boom and bust, one thing remained constant: the natural buffers around the cape, which preserved the Old Florida feel of a place jumping into the 21st century.

In 1963, the feds created the Merritt Island National Wildlife Refuge, 140,000 acres with more endangered and threatened species than any other refuge in the continental U.S.

Then, a decade later, they set up Canaveral National Seashore — 58,000 acres of barrier island, open lagoon, coastal hammock, pine flatwoods, and offshore waters.

But Space X says every time there’s a takeoff or landing, both must shut down for safety. Even the nude beach.

The naked and the clothed

Florida is the state with the most nudist resorts — 29, compared to 14 for second-place California. Harder to find are Florida’s nude beaches. They exist, but most are not official.

One well-known example is in Canaveral National Seashore: the southern end of Playalinda Beach, accessed from Parking Lot 13.

“Not too many places can you get a full view of a rocket launch while giving a full view,” WKMG-TV noted in a story that reported Playalinda had been named the 20th best nude beach in the world.

One person who submitted a comment against the Space X plan identified himself as a member of the American Association for Nude Recreation. He told the feds, “I do not see the need for corporations to take away our public privileges to public and federal lands.”

Plenty of people who ARE wearing clothes use the rest of Playalinda for swimming, surfing, fishing, picnicking, and camping. After all, it’s the longest stretch of undeveloped Atlantic coastline in Florida.

Both the naked and the clothed are freaking out about the part of the Space X plan that calls for closing access to the beach for at least 60 days a year — maybe more.

Space program veterans call Musk “the Nibbler,” Fisk told me, because “he’ll say he wants 50 launches — no wait, make it 120 — oh no, we need to do 160 launches.” He keeps nibbling a little more each time.

Residents who love Playalinda don’t want to play Musk’s shutdown game. It’s a public beach that the public wants to use, not hand over to the world’s richest man whenever he wants.

“What we want is a fair middle ground — where launch activity can thrive without compromising the health, safety, and quality of life for our residents,” Commissioner Delaney said on her substack.

I haven’t even mentioned the other Space X threat, one that would affect more than just one region of Florida.

The company wants to launch its Starship-Super Heavy rocket from its existing base in Texas to attain a low-Earth orbit. It would soar over most of North and Central Florida in a way that would block at least 10 and as many as 200 commercial airline flights.

The big break

I was curious about what an actual scientist had to say about all this.

I got in touch with Ken Kremer, a Ph.D. with 17 patents who’s been writing about the space industry for two decades. He runs the website Space Upclose and boasts that he’s witnessed more than 100 launches.

He agreed with everyone else I talked to about how awful it would be for Space X to close off Playalinda Beach for 60 days minimum.

“That’s really terrible to cut that off for two months,” he said.

But he saw a reasonable alternative.

Space X wants to use Launch Complex 39A. That’s where a lot of American space history happened, including the launch of Apollo 11. An explosion there would wipe out all the historic structures.

Ten miles away is Launch Complex 37. Space X wants to use that one too. Why not require the company to use it exclusively? That way, he said, only minimal beach closures would be required.

“There have to be some reasonable compromises,” Kremer said.

Of course, just changing the launch site doesn’t solve the other problems with pollution, excess water usage, and so forth.

Space Coast residents used to be willing to give the space program the benefit of the doubt because they felt they were doing their patriotic duty. But it’s not like that anymore. Space X is not NASA. It’s just a for-profit business, putting more money into Musk’s already bulging pockets.

I think we should tell Space X that the only way it will be allowed to do everything it wants with Cape Canaveral is if every single launch or landing in Florida carries as a passenger someone named Musk.

It could be Elon. It could be his awful father. It could be one of his 14 kids.

Then, all the water that’s left afterward, they have to drink it. And if they complain about it, tell them, “Hey, those are the breaks.”

  • Craig Pittman is a native Floridian. In 30 years at the Tampa Bay Times, he won numerous state and national awards for his environmental reporting. He is the author of six books. In 2020 the Florida Heritage Book Festival named him a Florida Literary Legend. Craig is co-host of the "Welcome to Florida" podcast. He lives in St. Petersburg with his wife and children.

Elon Musk's time in DC comes back to bite him in ongoing lawsuit: report

A judge knocked down Elon Musk's argument for getting his U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission’s civil lawsuit moved out of Washington, D.C.

The SEC sued the tech mogul on Jan. 14 alleging violations of federal law requiring the disclosure of his purchase of a 5 percent stake in Twitter, months before he took over the social media platform and eventually changed its name to X, and a federal judge ruled against his request to move the trial to New York or Texas.

"Mr. Musk contends that litigating this case in this District would impose 'substantial burdens' on him because he is 'an incredibly busy individual' and 'it is unlikely [he] could attend an entire trial in Washington, D.C.,'" wrote U.S. District Judge Sparkle Sooknanan.

"The SEC does not dispute these representations," the judge added. "The Court takes Mr. Musk’s convenience seriously, but it also notes that Mr. Musk has considerable means and spends at least forty percent of his time outside his chosen forum."

The judge took note of Musk's four-month tenure serving a quasi-governmental role in President Donald Trump's administration, which he joined six days after the SEC suit was filed, as head of the Department of Government Efficiency in her ruling against his request.

"Indeed, although Mr. Musk may have 'rarely' traveled to this District in recent months," Sooknanan wrote, "Mr. Musk’s brief itself indicates that he has spent substantial time here this year."

Musk purchased a minority share in Twitter in March 2022, but SEC regulators say he failed to disclose that his stake exceeded a 5 percent ownership threshold within the required 10 calendar days.

The tech billionaire's attorneys argued that Musk stopped purchasing shares of the publicly listed social media platform and filed his disclosure one business day after his wealth manager spoke with legal counsel about filing requirements.

Elon Musk admits Epstein connection after file drop: 'Tried to get me to go to his island'

Tesla CEO Elon Musk finally commented on the fact that his name appeared in Jeffrey Epstein's personal calendar with a note about an invite to the late convicted child abuser's private island.

Epstein's estate recently released a third batch of documents related to the late sex offender and his associates, including some high-level allies of President Donald Trump. The disgraced financier's estate produced to Democrats on the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform another tranche of documents, including phone message logs, copies of flight logs and manifests for aircrafts, copies of financial ledgers and Epstein’s daily schedule, which include mentions of possible contact between Jeffrey Epstein and prominent individuals like Musk, Peter Thiel, Steve Bannon and Prince Andrew.

Musk hadn't yet addressed the scandal until Sky News published an article called Elon Musk and Prince Andrew named in latest Epstein files release.

Responding to the article, Musk took to his own social media site, X, formerly called Twitter. The billionaire said, "Shame on Sky News for this utterly misleading headline."

"Anyone pushing this false narrative deserves complete contempt," Musk then added. "Epstein tried to get me to go to his island and I REFUSED, yet they name me even before Prince Andrew, who did visit."

Musk previously made headlines when he claimed that Trump himself appeared in the controversial files.

'Trump outs Elon Musk as being in Epstein files': New doc drop names presidential allies

Jeffrey Epstein's estate released a third batch of documents related to the late sex offender and his associates, including some high-level allies of President Donald Trump.

The disgraced financier's estate on Friday produced to Democrats on the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform another tranche of documents, including phone message logs, copies of flight logs and manifests for aircrafts, copies of financial ledgers and Epstein’s daily schedule, which include mentions of possible contact between Jeffrey Epstein and prominent individuals like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Steve Bannon and Prince Andrew.

“It should be clear to every American that Jeffrey Epstein was friends with some of the most powerful and wealthiest men in the world. Every new document produced provides new information as we work to bring justice for the survivors and victims," said oversight spokeswoman Sara Guerrero. "Oversight Democrats will not stop until we identify everyone complicit in Epstein’s heinous crimes. It’s past time for Attorney General Bondi to release all the files now."

In response to the release, Rep. Eric Swalwell said, "Trump OUTS Elon Musk as being in Epstein Files. Revenge for Elon outing Trump?"

The documents suggest Thiel and Bannon had scheduled meetings with Epstein and provided evidence that Musk had a pending trip to Epstein's island, while Prince Andrew was listed as a passenger on Epstein’s aircraft and financial disclosures provided possible evidence of payments from Epstein to masseuses on behalf of an individual identified as “Andrew.”

Extensive redactions have been made to protect the victims of Epstein's alleged sex trafficking network, and the committee expects to receive additional documents as part of a rolling production in response to their requests.

"In the third batch, the Oversight Committee received 8,544 documents responsive to the Committee’s subpoena from August," the committee's Democrats said in a statement.

The following was received:

  • Phone Message Logs from 2002-2005, which were produced previously in litigation
  • Copies of flight logs and flight manifests for aircraft, including helicopters, that Epstein owned, rented, leased, operated or used from 1990-2019
  • Copies of ledgers reflecting transactions recorded as cash transactions for Epstein and business entities. These documents were previously shown to Committee staff at in camera review.
  • Epstein’s daily schedules between 2010 and 2019

Hundreds of workers cut by DOGE now asked to return to work after months of paid time off

Hundreds of federal employees cut loose by Elon Musk have been given a tight deadline to decide whether to come back to work.

The General Services Administration has given laid-work workers who had managed government workplaces until the end of this week to accept or decline reinstatement, according to an internal memo obtained by The Associated Press, and those who return must report for duty on Oct. 6 after what would amount to a seven-month vacation paid by taxpayers.

"Ultimately, the outcome was the agency was left broken and understaffed,” said Chad Becker, a former GSA real estate official. “They didn’t have the people they needed to carry out basic functions.”

Agency representatives didn't respond to detailed questions about the memo issued Friday, and they also declined to discuss current staffing and cost overruns associated with leases terminated by the Department of Government Efficiency.

“GSA’s leadership team has reviewed workforce actions and is making adjustments in the best interest of the customer agencies we serve and the American taxpayers,” an agency spokesman told the AP in an email.

DOGE targeted the GSA, which had about 12,000 employees at the start of Donald Trump's second presidency, as a key area to cut out what Musk identified as waste, fraud and abuse in the federal government, and Musk aides embedded in the agency's headquarters sent out more than 800 lease cancellations and published a list of hundreds of government buildings to sell off.

However, those efforts were quickly dialed back in the face of public blowback, with more than 480 leashes set for termination have been spared and only 131 leases expired without the government actually leaving the properties, and the turmoil has caused the agencies to face additional costs because property owners haven't been able to rent out those spaces to other tenants.

'Backward': Elon Musk called out by Trump Cabinet member over DOGE firings

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick on Friday called out Elon Musk's moves to cut government waste with government workforce firings "backward."

“The focus should have been on cutting the waste, fraud and abuse, and the people you could do over time,” Lutnick said in an interview with Axios co-founder Mike Allen. “I thought he got that backward.”

Lutnick was critical of Musk's decisions, saying he should have focused on cutting back government spending, The Washington Post reports.

He also pointed to how the billionaire, the now second-wealthiest person on the planet, "got caught up in other people’s objectives.” He suggested that Musk may have pushed the efforts to slash federal employees ahead of President Donald Trump's Cabinet secretaries.

Instead of broad workforce reductions, Lutnick expects that identifying waste would be the government-cutting efforts and focus next. He cited that government employees are a "relatively small percentage of government spending," The Post reports.

Lutnick says he anticipates the Department of Government Efficiency will still be effective in the future, but finds it is “less effective than I would have hoped.”

Musk, who previously led DOGE in an effort to make good on President Donald Trump’s pledge to eradicate wasteful government spending.

This week, Rep. John Larson (D-CT) called on the Tesla CEO to be dragged in front of a House committee to testify on how Social Security data was compromised under his direction.

“We asked Elon Musk and DOGE to come before the [House] Ways and Means Committee, and they refused to come,” Larson said, speaking Wednesday on the House floor at the Capitol in Washington, D.C.

Musk's relationship with the Trump administration had soured after he criticized the "Big, Beautiful Bill" over X, which the South African-born billionaire said he later regretted. As a "special government employee," his role was limited to 130 days only.

'They believe they’re above the law!' Lawmaker moves to let whistleblower loose on Musk

Rep. John Larson (D-CT) laid into Elon Musk Wednesday for his brief stint serving the Trump administration, calling on the Tesla CEO to be dragged in front of a House committee to testify on how Social Security data was compromised under his direction.

Musk had previously led the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, in an effort to make good on President Donald Trump’s pledge to eradicate wasteful government spending. As part of that effort, Musk and his DOGE staff – many of them between the ages of 19 and 24 – copied Americans’ Social Security data to an unsecure cloud server, according to a whistleblower.

“We asked Elon Musk and DOGE to come before the [House] Ways and Means Committee, and they refused to come,” Larson said, speaking Wednesday on the House floor at the Capitol in Washington, D.C.

“Why? Because they believe they're above the law! They don't believe that they're accountable to an equal branch of government, and now they've gone in and taken the data that they were after!”

According to the whistleblower, DOGE officials under Musk put as many as 300 million Americans’ Social Security data at risk. Coincidently, around three months after Musk left his gig at the White House, a massive data breach occurred that impacted 2.9 billion records, which included names, addresses and Social Security numbers.

And now, Larson is calling not just for Musk to be brought before Congress to testify, but the whistleblower as well.

“It's long overdue, that as an equal branch of government, we hold the executive branch accountable when they are taking peoples' personal data and social security and exposing it!” Larson shouted. “There is no reason why any 24 year old, unvetted, unaccountable person should have access to any Americans' Social Security information!”

Larson said that he had asked on Tuesday to have a hearing called to provide the whistleblower an opportunity to share the extent of potential dangers created under Musk’s leadership of DOGE. As to why Musk would be interested in Social Security data, Larson argued the reason to be the most obvious one.

“Why is Elon Musk after it?” Larson said. “Because that data contains information about the $2.7 trillion of the peoples' money that's in Social Security! And if I sound a little angry, it's because I am, and every American ought to be angered and outraged that this is going on!”

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Elon Musk loses title of world's richest person

Billionaire Elon Musk has reportedly lost his claim to be the "world's richest person."

Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison's wealth increased to $393 billion after his company reported strong earnings on Tuesday. In contrast, Musk's current net worth is $385 billion.

According to Bloomberg, Ellison, 81, experienced the "biggest one-day increase ever recorded." His company credited the surging demand for Artificial Intelligence infrastructure.

The Oracle co-founder is reportedly close to President Donald Trump.

Musk has twice lost the title of world's richest person after first capturing it in 2021. Tesla recently offered him a pay package that could be worth nearly $1 trillion.

'Cat fight!' Dems giddy as ugly brawl threatens midterm massacre

WASHINGTON — Elon Musk may have packed up and gone home weeks ago, but he’s still got a grip on Washington’s political class.

While Republicans cling to the coattails of the world’s wealthiest man — whether or not he’s tweet-shaming the GOP agenda on his social media platform, X — many Democrats are cheering the Tesla CEO’s latest foray into politics, with the soft launch of his “America Party.”

Musk’s initially cringe-inducing breakup with President Donald Trump is mostly in the rearview, and many veteran Democrats remain wary of the heavy-spending billionaire.

“A man that rich can do a lot of things,” Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin (D-IL) told Raw Story at the Capitol recently. “He can also fake a lot of things, so I’m not sure how serious he is.”

Musk may no longer lead the Department of Government Efficiency — or DOGE — but he’s still a Washington player. And with next year’s midterm elections looming, members of both parties are trying to simultaneously avoid and court him.

‘I wouldn’t say he's turning on us’

Musk and Trump formally parted ways at the end of May, but just a few days later things got awkward as they took to their social media companies to digitally pummel each other.

After Musk lambasted Trump’s signature tax cut and tough-on-migrants spending bill, Trump complained of being "disappointed" in his former wingman.

Musk then dropped what he called the "really big bomb" — and accused the president of being “in the Epstein files.”

Republicans in Congress struggled to make sense of the fight between their leader that some call “Daddy,” and the sugar daddy who dropped upwards of $290 million on the 2024 election.

This summer, the Musk-aligned Building America’s Future PAC doled out more than $1 million promoting Trump’s agenda, including his signature “One Big Beautiful Bill” — which perplexed many political watchers, as at the same time Musk repeatedly used social media to rip a bill he labeled a “disgusting abomination.”

“Shame on those who voted for it: you know you did wrong,” Musk posted in early June. “You know it.”

Wrong or not, many rank-and-file Republicans who voted to pass Trump’s agenda want to appease Musk too.

“I agree with Musk,” Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO) told Raw Story at the time.

“We need more people like Elon Musk, because being in the arena and being on the battlefield and fighting, that air cover is awesome.”

For many — if not most — in the GOP, Musk’s declaration that he’s starting a third party doesn’t mean he’s parting ways with the Republican Party they call home.

“I wouldn’t say he's turning on us, he's got a right to his opinion,” Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) told Raw Story. “Turning on us would be him going back to the dark side: the Democrats.”

On that Democratic side, things are awkward too.

Generally, Democrats view Musk’s promised third party as a net win, a move that will split the right-wing vote.

“Oh I definitely think it will be better for Dems,” Rep. John Larson (D-CT) told Raw Story.

“That obviously would help us. We’ll take it. I think we’re gonna do well no matter what. House Democrats did extraordinarily well [in 2024]. We actually picked up seats in a time that had gone heavily against the trends.”

“Republicans should worry more. Much more so,” Rep. Don Beyer (D-VA) told Raw Story.

Democrats don’t have many good inroads to Musk, in part because DOGE focused on slashing and burning rather than building, Beyer said.

“I don’t know anybody that doesn’t want to make [government] more efficient. I’d love just the modernization. Makes perfect sense to me.

“Even things like deficit reduction, I’m on his side. We need to have much better deficit reduction, not the way [Republicans are] doing it, which is cut all the hospitals and services [like] Medicaid and then still drive [the deficit] up $4 to $5 trillion.”

With the Democratic Party promising to get “big money” out of politics, cheering on the world’s richest man is awkward — a point many veteran Democrats understand.

‘He’s got no base’

On the other side of the Capitol, most Democratic senators remain wary of Musk.

“Is it good for Democrats to just not have his money behind the GOP this time around, seemingly?" Raw Story asked the Democratic whip.

“I think there are going to be outrageous unlimited amounts of money regardless, and what impact he’ll have on either political party remains to be seen,” Durbin said.

“At the moment we only know the message that he is personally grieved. If there’s more, perhaps he can build a political base.”

Democrats are increasingly united in wariness of Musk and his meddling.

“I don't know yet [about the third party],” Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) told Raw Story. “Like, he certainly has the money. Right? But he also has to have people who decide to go with him.

“He's got no base. Until I see that, it's interesting. I enjoy a cat fight between two men. But until I see who joins [Musk], I can't say that this is a real thing.”

What is real is voter unrest.

“There are a lot of disaffected voters,” said Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA). “Absolutely.”

Polling shows many Democratic voters are disaffected with Fetterman, one of the more independent-minded senators in either party, who has supported Trump nominees and sided with Israel in its war in Gaza.

“At points I’m at odds with my party,” Fetterman conceded, “and I know I’ve had colleagues on the other side that were at odds with their side too. I don’t know if we're ready for a third party in that sense, but without a doubt there are a lot of disaffected voters.”

“Last I saw, you were doing better with Republicans than Democrats?” Raw Story pressed.

“I have a great relationship with my parents,” Fetterman said, alluding to his blue-collar, conservative Pennsylvania roots — the very groups Democrats alienated and Musk courted last year.

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