Putin and Trump 'talk about one another like an old married couple': ex-GOP insider

A conservative columnist observed that Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin speak about one another "like an old married couple."

Former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum appeared Monday morning on CNN to discuss his latest column for The Atlantic on last week's White House meeting between Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, which he argued represented a betrayal of American values even more treacherous than Alger Hiss.

"I didn't say anything favorable about Alger Hiss," Frum said. "What I pointed out was Alger Hiss, who, of course, was a traitor and spy in the United States of the 1930s and 40s – a huge uproar over that, over the Alger Hiss case, and when Hiss was an active spy in the 1930s, he was not a very important person. He didn't have access to important secrets. What people were so worried about him was this extremely distinguished person, very capable lawyer, and he rose and rose and rose in the U.S. bureaucracy. He was the kind of person you could imagine a secretary of state or imagine as head of the CIA, and the idea that a person who is loyal to Moscow would rise to those jobs, that was terrifying in the 1940s. But now we see this open sympathy for Moscow in the very highest jobs in the land, and again, that meeting the Oval Office gave the lie to any claim that this is about strategy, this is about pivoting to China, this is about concern for securing minerals."

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"This was a gang-up on the Ukrainian president as his country's at war," Frum added, "as his people have lost tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands of soldiers and hundreds of thousands of its people to displacement, and an attack on him to serve the interests of Vladimir Putin, who, as the president said, has gone through so much with Donald Trump. they talked about each other like an old married couple."

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