Joy Reid finally answers the question on everyone's mind: Is Donald Trump 'ignorant or corrupt'?

MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell asked correspondent Joy Reid whether President Donald Trump was "ignorant" or outright "corrupt." She chose the latter.

Reid read off points in the Thursday New York Times revelation that Trump was digging for any possible reason to fire special prosecutor Robert Mueller -- even if it included a conflict of interest over fees at his golf course.

"The more information you get, he's corrupt," Reid said of her options. "You can't be that ignorant if you're going beyond the Russia investigation and saying we had disputes over fees at my golf club. He's looking for any reason to get rid of this guy."

Reid went on to note that White House counsel Don McGahn isn't a hero in the ongoing saga, saying  She it was McGahn who worked to get Attorney General Jeff Sessions not to recuse himself.

"You have Donald Trump trying to assemble around himself a protection force," Reid said of Trump's demands for loyalty.

"And essentially it feel like all these attorneys around him need to protect him. Well, protect him from what? If he didn't do anything wrong, why does he need protection?"

Watch the full conversation below: