On Sunday, President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani appeared on MSNBC with Chuck Todd and said that "truth isn't truth." Todd burst out laughing, pointing out that the sentiment is destined to become a meme of the kind that adorns placards at anti-Trump rallies.
But Giuliani's philosophy on the nature of truth may be more than a gaffe. On MSNBC's Live with Hallie Jackson Monday, panelists dug into the potential strategy at play.
They pointed out that it's in the president's interest to do everything to discredit the Mueller probe in order to stave off impeachment.
Politico reporter Linda Cook added that Giuliani's statement is part of the administration's strategy to undermine public trust in all major institutions and that their attacks are escalating as Mueller closes in.
"I think the strategy has been to undermine institutions," Cook said. "To undermine democrats on the hill, the Mueller investigation, the undermining of the press is part of that ... so that when the special report comes out they can claim 'I know the truth none of these institutions do,'" Cook pointed out.
"And I think that's just sort of been a huge part of the lead up to this ... something they've been doing with much more frequency now that the investigation is moving along at a faster clip," she concluded.
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