The Trump administration should stop skirting around releasing all the files on the Jeffrey Epstein criminal case, former White House ethics czar Norm Eisen told the panel at MSNBC's "The Weeknight" Tuesday.
This comes as the Justice Department tries to quell the rising anger from President Donald Trump's base by announcing a plan to interview Epstein's convicted sex trafficking accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell, who helped groom the young girls Epstein forced into his "parties" — but that won't do anything, Eisen argued.
"What's the point here?" asked anchor and former Republican chairman Michael Steele. "Because at the end of the day, with her, my bet is zip. Nothing. Because her connection to Epstein is so deep and so tight. I just don't think we're going to pull anything else out from this effort."
"Michael, that's why getting a hold of the Trump-Epstein documents — we know that there's information," said Eisen. "According to media reports, there's information much broader in government files than just the grand jury material, right? If the government is going to release the single most sensitive thing, it's legally protected under Rule 60, grand jury material. Let them put out the rest of the stuff. That's what we're asking for, because people lie, documents don't."
"I want to know — whatever Miss Maxwell may say, I want to know what's in those documents, because with Epstein off the scene now, she has every incentive to say to Todd Blanche, 'Oh, no, there's nothing about Trump,'" said Eisen. "Well, let's see what the documents say. That will be incomplete. And that's why we're demanding the documents. We're entitled to them under federal law. If we don't get those documents, we are going to fight for them, because we cannot allow propaganda about this story. This is one that's not going away, including there's going to be litigation extending into August now over the grand jury materials."
"So Donald Trump is saddled with this," he added. "And you can see it on the video. It's like back when he was under special counsel investigation. And by the way, don't we need an independent counsel, a special counsel here? We can't trust Todd Blanche. bring in an independent, outside person to take a look at this so we can trust what we get, not Trump's mouthpiece."
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