'You're very agitated': Careening conservative called out over CNN crash-out

A conservative columnist became extremely "agitated" Friday as she tried and failed to convince fellow CNN panelists President Donald Trump's administration was not to blame for an ongoing fatal measles outbreak.

Washington Examiner economics columnist Tiana Lowe Descher both ripped and tried to defend Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as news broke of a fourth death related to measles in Pennsylvania.

"Measles cases were actually rising before Covid, in large part because you had in blue states, people like Gavin Newsom's wife pushing for laws to relax the vaccine requirements in public schools," she said. "Rememberduring the transition, when [Barack] Obama was looking at himto be his EPA director?"

But CNN host Audie Cornish replied with facts, namely that the number of measles cases has risen from 283 in 2024 to 3,294 cases so far this year.

"Whatyou're saying is not factuallyincorrect," Cornish said. "What I'm saying isthe data does not support thescale of the problem you aredescribing the scale of theproblem in 2026 is an order ofmagnitude more."

Democratic strategist Maria Cardona chimed in to argue Kennedy must be held accountable because of the powerful position he holds.

"Whathe is doing is going to be oneof the most atrocious legaciesof the Trump administration," she said. "Those deaths are at their feet.The rise in measles in thiscountry are at their feet."

Doescher insisted she was not against vaccines and would vaccinate her own children, but she again shifted blame away from Kennedy.

"This isa problem that has deep roots,that the seeds weresown before Covid, right?" Doescher said. "Remember Jenny McCarthy."

CNN's Edward-Isaac Dovere stepped in to note Kennedy's long-standing role in promoting anti-vaccine conspiracy theories.

"This is about the Health and Human Servicessecretary," Dovere said, "who for the last 30years has made this a majorcause of his, who has writtenmany books about it, who haschampioned this cause and whohas done more than anyone,probably in the public sphere,to raise the profile ofanti-vax."

Doescher interrupted to again cast blame away from the administration, and Dovere cut her off.

"You're very agitatedabout it," he said, "and there is thisdata."

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