1. "I don't recall."
Trump's former personal lawyer, Todd Blanche, asks Maxwell, "Do you know whether 14 masseuses from Mar-a-Lago's spa ended up giving 15 massages to -- private massages to Mr. Epstein? I'm not asking for what you may have read, but from -- at the time, from your personal knowledge, do you know whether that's true?"
Maxwell replied, "I -- I don't -- I don't recall. Is it possible? Yes. But I don't remember -- I don't remember that. So I don't want to -- I don't recall that, but it's possible."
She later explains that she doesn't remember most things, anymore.
Maxwell: "I just want you to understand my -- my memory's not as good as it was, because when I was in Brooklyn, I was in the SHU for almost two years, and I was on suicide watch for almost two years, which meant that they woke me up every 15 minutes for the entire time. And it's -- it really did affect my ability to ..."
Blanche interrupted her, "Understood."
2. Doesn't believe Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
"I do not believe he died by suicide, no," Maxwell said.
Blanche asked, "And do you believe that -- do you have any speculation or view of who killed him?"
"I -- no, I don't," Maxwell said.
Blanche replied, "And I ask that because, if you don't believe that there's any truth to the allegations of blackmail or that he had kind of a list, or that he had reasons to have people hate him, why would somebody kill him in prison?"
Maxwell replied: "In prison, where I am, they will kill you or they will pay -- somebody can pay a prisoner to kill you for $25 worth of commissary. That's about the going rate for a hit with a lock today."
3. Maxwell delivers glowing praise of Donald Trump
"So my father liked him very much, and he was loved -- really liked his wife as well, because we were both Czechoslovakian. And as far as I'm concerned, President Trump was always very cordial and very kind to me. And I just want to say that I find -- I -- I admire his extraordinary achievement in becoming the president now. And I like him, and I've always liked him. So that is the sum and substance of my entire relationship with him."
At another point, she explained that Trump was "never inappropriate" with her.
"The president was never inappropriate with anybody. He was a gentleman in all respects."
Blanche confirmed Maxwell never witnessed any inappropriate actions on the part of Donald Trump whenever she was around him in social settings.
"Absolutely never in any context."
4. The Birthday Book
Maxwell responded to reports she read in the Wall Street Journal, saying that she wrote a letter requesting the birthday greetings for Epstein's book. She says she doesn't recall the letter, but it could be from her.
"I remember it. It was leather-bound, and I remember it being about yea-big. It was big. Right like --" Maxwell used her hands to illustrate, and Blanche said over a foot.
She went on to confirm that the book was on his shelf on 71st Street. "Right behind his desk." She also confirmed that some of the letters were in the federal prosecution's case against her. She went on to allege that she believes the Southern District of New York leaked the "book." The conversation was then shut down from the first day.
"I wasn't responsible for everybody in that book. And there were people that he would ask himself to contribute," Maxwell said on the second day of questioning.
Blanche asked her about the names in the book, and she said, "It's been so long. I want to tell you, but I don't remember."
She said she didn't remember Trump submitting a letter for the book. She noted she was shocked that in the "discovery" of the case, there were very few of the birthday letters included. Trump's was not. Blanche pressed her on whether there was a drawing of a nude woman and Maxwell said again that she couldn't remember.
5. Maxwell met Elon Musk
Blanche: "Do you know Elon Musk?"
Maxwell: "I do.
Blanche: "And how did you meet Mr. Musk?"
Maxwell: "I met him in -- I don't remember the year, but it's going to be in 2010, '11, something like that, I think, if my memory serves... And I was at an event for Sergey Brin, the co-founder of Google. And Sergey had arranged for -- it was for his birthday. And we were -- or a bunch of us, I don't even remember how many we were, but not many of us. Maybe -- I don't know. If I say 40, I could be wrong. If it was 30 or 50, I don't remember. I'm sorry. Went to another friend's island. Somebody called Mr. Pigozzi in the Caribbean and -- not with Epstein, he was not there, to celebrate Sergey's birthday. And we were there together for, I want to say, three or four days, something like that in my memory. And Mr. Musk was present for that."
She went on to say she also saw Musk at the Oscars. She also recalled seeing in "discovery" that Musk was communicating with Epstein via email, but she couldn't confirm that personally.
6. Maxwell claims there is no Epstein client list or little black book.
Blanche: "So there's been a lot of conversations about whether Mr. Epstein maintained, like, a list of people, like a book of famous people that he knew. Like a, it's called a black book or a client list or a list. Did you know of the existence of any such list?"
Maxwell: There is no list. We'll start with that. The genesis of that story, I can actually trace for you from its absolute inception, if that is what you're interested in."
Blanche confirms there is no list "that you know of."
Maxwell: "The origin of this story, I believe, begins -- or it has a beginning in 2009, and then it has a prequel but we have to start in 2009. In 2009, there is -- Epstein is, I think, out of jail, and there are civil suits taking place. Many of these are coming out of a disgraced law firm, Rothstein Adler -- Rothstein, Rosenfeldt & Adler. At that law firm is a lawyer who started there in April, May, 2009, called Brad Edwards.
"In 2009, allegedly the FBI gets a call in October of 2009 from Brad Edwards, and he allegedly tells them that he has come across a piece of evidence that belongs to Epstein, that contains a list of all of his clients and victims, underage girls, massage therapists, and his -- and the men who are having sex with them. And he becomes -- he, Brad Edwards becomes a cooperating witness -- cooperating -- confidential informant, sorry. Confidential informant for them.
"And in a sting operation obtains the list from a former butler of Epstein's called Alfredo Rodriguez. And it becomes evidence in the civil suit. In the -- Alfredo Rodriguez is subsequently prosecuted for having an AK-47 or something weird, some guns or something, and goes to trial. And there's a criminal complaint that the FBI produced. And in that criminal complaint, it says that Brad Edwards became aware of the list, but -- we'll call it the list for the purposes of this.
"After Alfredo Rodriguez's two depositions that are held in Epstein's civil suit. It's in the FBI's affidavit that the evidence was collected, and Brad Edwards became aware of it after the second deposition. It's in the criminal complaint. The truth is different from what's in both the criminal complaint and in that FBI affidavit, and in Brad Edward's own statements on the subject.
"The truth is that Alfredo Rodriguez was deposed twice, once in July and once in August. And in the July deposition, told Brad Edwards that he had handwritten notes or a journal, whatever, in the deposition. And Brad Edwards replies, 'Well, we're going to come back for a second deposition.' And the second deposition takes place in August. What this means is that Brad Edwards had access to the list from sometime between July and August, until when he actually called the FBI in October. So we're talking six months or so. Rothstein's firm was raided a few days after the list went into the FBI's hands, and, subsequently, Rothstein himself was prosecuted for RICO, and I believe went to jail for 50 years. As part of that RICO case, he admitted to, on the record, and was -- I don't know whether he was prosecuted for creating fake settlements and fake evidence in Epstein's case"
