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'Absurd': Retiring House Republican lashes out at GOP colleagues over speaker attacks

Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-NC), who is retiring at the end of this term, has a warning for conservatives he says are fostering an "absurd" goal of reigning in the powers of the House speakership while hoping for "conservative outcomes".

In an exit interview with Politico, McHenry said that a strong Congress was essential to balance the powers of the executive branch.

"What Congress has done since the Progressive Era is hand away power to agencies in the executive branch — and what we’ve done since ’94 is diminish Congress’ power, which is actually completely out of alignment for what the Founding Fathers wanted. They wanted a strong legislative branch to counter the executive branch," McHenry said.

He continued:

"What we’ve formulated is a strong speakership on behalf of the House. So the opening day of Congress, we give a majority of the power of the institution to the speaker. That’s the reason why it’s such a difficult damn vote, because you give the speaker so much power. And so we’re in this situation where we have a whole group of people that want to diminish the powers of the speaker and think that it’s going to lead to more conservative outcomes, and I think that’s absurd. I think it’s dumb. I think it’s wrong-headed and historically inaccurate.

"Diminishing the role of the speaker, the motion to vacate — that has been fully weaponized. It’s been fully weaponized by people that are quite selfish in their views, that are not institutionalists and don’t actually get more conservative policy as a result of it. And history will show that."

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McHenry filled in as temporary House Speaker for three weeks in 2023 after a GOP coup fomented by then-Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) led to the ouster of Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA). The situation ultimately resulted in the election of Rep. Mike Johnson (R-LA), who now faces a confidence vote on Friday after MAGA Republicans accused him of capitulating to Democrats with the recent spending bill vote.

President-elect Donald Trump officially endorsed Johnson's re-election to the speakership in a TruthSocial post on Monday, writing, "Speaker Mike Johnson is a good, hard working, religious man," he wrote. "He will do the right thing, and we will continue to WIN. Mike has my Complete & Total Endorsement. MAGA!!!"

Who's running the House? We asked 20 House members and got these 20 (non)answers

WASHINGTON – The House isn’t just speaker-less, it also appears to be rudderless.

Things are so bad in the GOP, House Republicans can’t even agree on who isn’t leading them now that Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) has twice tried — and failed badly — to win enough votes to earn the speakership.

Raw Story tracked down 20 House members Wednesday, and simply asked: Who’s in charge?

We got about 20 different answers.

“Definitely not me,” Rep. George Santos (R-NY) told Raw Story. “It’s weird. Nobody knows who’s in charge.”

While Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) refused to turn around and acknowledge the question Raw Story asked from just a few feet away, others can’t help but acknowledge the obvious power vacuum.


“No. We have no speaker,” Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO) told Raw Story.

As for ousted House Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s staff members? Lamborn and other Republicans say nothing’s really changed with their duties, even if they’re technically boss-less at the moment.

“I think, everyone’s still in their places,” Lamborn guessed.

An example of how chaotic matters have become: Last week, there was a rule change for Republican conference meetings, and now the party’s rank-and-file and chairpeople alike are supposed – emphasis on ‘supposed to’ – to surrender their mobile devices before entering the party’s closed-door confabs. Who made the call?

Raw Story reached out to Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik (R-NY).

No reply.

Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry?

Nothing.

House Majority Leader – and former speaker-designate – Steve Scalise (R-LA)?

Crickets.

House Whip Tom Emmer (R-MN)?

Same silence.

“Do you know who made that new rule?” Raw Story asked Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX).

“I mean, the speak…,” Roy stopped himself before storming off, complaining loudly and turning heads in the marble halls of the Capitol. “That's such an unimportant question. Seriously guys.”

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GOP rules may seem insignificant when the party has created a power vacuum in the House, but congressional committees are the brain of Congress – where lawmakers are supposed to study issues before crafting policy for the nation.

Since McCarthy had his gavel stripped from him two weeks ago, there have been next to no hearings in the House. Committee work all but ceased.

Then, all of a sudden, 14 hearings – which was winnowed down to 13 after one was scrapped – sprung up out of nowhere and were placed on the House docket to the surprise of Democrats.

Who was responsible?

“I don't know the answer to that. I'll try and find out. I assumed it was [Oversight Chair James] Comer (R-KY),” Rep. Jamie Raskin – the top Democrat on the Oversight Committee – told Raw Story. “I wasn't aware that anything was going on until we got notice of the hearing.”

Did anyone pressure Republican-controlled committees to restart their idling engines?

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Who knows? Many rank-and-file in the GOP believe McCarthy’s staff is working with McHenry and other leaders to make these calls.

“It's a combination right now,” Rep. Eli Crane (R-AZ) replied before he zipped his smiling lips, flashed a peace sign and headed into the Capitol.

Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy's (R-CA) still has his name placard above the speaker’s office, and he is assisting Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry (R-NC) in McHenry’s caretaker role. This team effort is accepted by most Republicans, it seems.

Crane is one of the infamous eight Republicans responsible for derailing McCarthy’s speakership, along with Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN) who is sensing someone playing puppet master just out of sight.

“The devil,” Burchett told Raw Story when asked who’s in charge of the House these days.

In July, Burchett helped run the House Oversight Committee’s UAP (unidentified anomalous phenomena) hearing where explosive allegations were made by UFO whistleblower and former intelligence staffer David Grusch.

Grusch repeatedly testified under oath that he could only answer certain pressing questions in a classified setting, such as a SCIF (sensitive compartmented information facility), but members of the UAP Caucus felt stymied in their efforts. Until this week.

Jordan and his allies have worked every angle they can to amass the 217 votes needed to win the nomination before the full House, which is why it was a tad suspicious that ‘news’ of a classified follow-up to the first UFO hearing was announced this week.

“I think they realized the public pressure to change it,” Burchett said.

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“You don't think that's a promise coming from Jordan as a part of [his speaker bid] stuff?” Raw Story asked.

“Yeah,” Burchett said. “Because Jordan wants to be wide open on that stuff.”

“But so if he doesn’t get it, that promise dies?”

Jim Jordan Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) has so far failed to win the U.S. House speakership. Shutterstock

“Well, they already put it out there, so,” Burchett said.

With the party looking like a joke, some Republicans just want to make jokes.

“Joe Biden. He's doing a miserable job,” Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD) quipped to Raw Story.

Harris is a member of the far-right Freedom Caucus and seems fine with their do-nothing Congress.

“I guess it goes to prove just how relatively unimportant it is for Congress to be in session every day,” Harris said.

Harris chairs the Appropriations Committee — think spending bills — Subcommittee on Agriculture, making him a so-called all-powerful cardinal on Capitol Hill who other members must kneel before to get funding directed to their preferred pet projects.

The work of Harris’ committee is wrapped up, so the next stop is the House floor — once his party picks a new speaker — but he’s fine with the House being ground to a halt.

“We're not doing anything, so it's not running right now and, honestly, the American people probably look at it and say, ‘Yeah, we don't see much of a change,’” Harris laughed. “No rush whatsoever.”

Others in the GOP seem to have actually read the post-9/11 rules that created the position of speaker pro tempore, which McHenry occupies. The position is designed to fill a gap and ensure continuity of government in the event the actual House speaker is incapacitated or the speakership otherwise becomes vacant.

“We're exactly where you would be, if the speaker were out of town [and] the speaker pro tem were overseeing the floor,” Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) told Raw Story. “Now, this particular speaker pro tem has not decided to bring anything to the floor, other than elections, but he has complete authority, as far as I read the statute. It envisioned an election, but it didn't require one.”

Issa says McHenry’s empowered in a new, if unique way.

“If you think about it, after 9/11, if two-thirds of the Congress was wiped out, and let's just say that they were all Republicans, then the speaker pro tem would be in a situation in which it would really be kind of inappropriate to replace him, to have that election, until the elections were held back in the districts,” Issa said. “So it was about survival and continuity. It was not about just having somebody oversee an election, because you could have a non-elected bureaucrat do that.”

As for who’s in charge right now?

Even some of the most powerful gavel-wielding lawmakers at the Capitol are clueless.

“I can’t answer that,” Rep. Mike McCaul (R-TX) – chairman of the powerful Foreign Affairs Committee – told Raw Story after a hearty laugh. “It depends who you ask. Right now, I think Jordan is trying to run it.”

Jordan’s making promises, but are old party leaders also letting him have the keys to the car this week, too?

“I don’t think he’s in charge at all. He’s not in charge,” Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD) told Raw Story. “It's clear that nobody on their side is in control at this point, and that's not good for the country … the refusal of the most extreme elements of their party – which Jordan represents – to not want to work in a bipartisan fashion to get the people's work done, is sad.”

Who’s in charge?

“That's a good question,” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) told Raw Story just before earning more votes than Jordan for the speakership, again, all from his Democratic colleagues. “I don't know. You'd have to talk to them on the other side of the aisle.”

Key Trump ally in Senate refuses to even entertain the idea of ‘Speaker Trump’

WASHINGTON – While a small band of House Republicans are backing former President Donald Trump to replace Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) as speaker of the House — there’s no constitutional requirement that the speaker must be an elected lawmaker — key Republican senators won’t even entertain the idea.

“I don’t have any comment,” Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) replied when asked.

Some of the very same Republicans who are glad McCarthy’s gone are mum when it comes to giving Trump the speaker’s gavel.

“What are your thoughts on a Speaker Trump?” Raw Story asked Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI).

“I just saw that [House Judiciary] Chairman [Jim] Jordan (R-OH) is running for speaker,” Johnson said, changing the subject.

“I can't think of a finer choice than Chairman Jordan. He's intelligent, and he's got a great deal of integrity,” Johnson continued.

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“Some people say he’s just a political animal,” Raw Story pressed.

“I just have nothing but respect for Chairman Jordan,” Johnson said.

Raw Story initially confused Paul when we brought up what some House Republicans are floating.

“What would you make of a Speaker Trump?”

“Of the speaker’s what?” Paul replied.

“What would you make of a Speaker Trump?”

“A Speaker Trump?” Paul replied. “Oh, I don’t have any comment.”

Like Johnson, Paul’s also excited about the prospects of a Speaker Jim Jordan.

“I think he’d be a good speaker. I think he'd get along with the right, the Freedom Caucus well, and maybe be able to pull everybody together,” Paul said.

House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-LA) is also a top contender for the speakership. Other congressmen, such as Kevin Hern (R-OK), Tom Cole (R-OK), Tom Emmer (R-MN) and even interim speaker Patrick McHenry (R-NC), might consider a bid.

But it’s entirely unclear who — if anyone — has the requisite support to win a majority of House votes needed to take power, particularly with the Republican conference so fractured.

Paul says the eight Republicans who pushed McCarthy out made some “valid” points.

“Part of the problem is, some of the complaints are pretty valid. The idea that we should do 12 individual spending bills – the deadline’s September 30th and we haven't done any,” Paul said.

Always the contrarian in today’s GOP, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) refused to comment on Jordan’s speaker bid, though he was quick to mock his fellow Republicans who are tossing Trump’s name in the ring.

“I’m not planning on weighing in on the speaker’s contest or making any comments on the individuals being considered,” Romney told Raw Story, before adding a quip. “I think it would be curious to have Donald Trump assume the speakership. Why not be both president and speaker of the House? And maybe he could appoint himself as vice president and have the trifecta!”

Speaker Trump, really?

“The only candidate for Speaker I am currently supporting is President Donald J. Trump,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) wrote on X Tuesday. “He has a proven 4 year record as President of the United States of America.”


It’s not just MTG on social media. Rep. Troy Nehls (R-TX) sent out a statement vowing to toss Trump’s name in the ring once the House is back in session.

“This week, when the U.S. House of Representatives reconvenes, my first order of business will be to nominate Donald J. Trump for Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives,” Nehls said in a statement. “President Trump, the greatest President of my lifetime, has a proven record of putting America First and will make the House great again.”


The former president initially seemed to throw lukewarm water on the idea when asked about it outside his fraud trial in Manhattan today.

“Lot of people have been calling me about Speaker, all I can say is we’ll do whatever is best for the country and for the Republican Party,” Trump told reporters in New York.

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Mere hours later on Truth Social, Trump shared a meme of himself holding a gavel in the House chamber while donning a MAGA hat.

House Republicans seem to need a refresher on their own party’s rules pertaining to people under indictment serving in House leadership.

Rule 26 of the House Republican Conference Rules would seemingly disqualify Trump – who’s been indicted on 91 counts across two federal and two state criminal cases – from becoming speaker.

A “member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed,” House GOP rules read.