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There's only one story that matters this week.

First, we're joined by Crooks and Liars Managing Editor Karoli Kuns to talk about the second impeachment of Donald Trump, and where the MAGA insurgency might go from here.

Then we speak with Nicholas Grossman, a professor of international relations at the University of Illinois and senior editor at Ars Technica, about how the far right got the attention of the real deep state--America's sprawling national security bureaucracy--with last week's insurrection, and why they will soon come to regret the heat they brought down on themselves.

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