"Can I correct something you said? You said that the woman... was vindicated? She wasn't vindicated!" the former Epstein attorney exclaimed. "This is Maria Farmer. She is a complete and total nut job. She believes the Holocaust didn't occur. She thinks Jews for all the world are pedophiles!"
"Of course, the FBI didn't believe her in 1996!" he continued. "She's a complete nutcase except to CNN. CNN has her on every day."
"And apparently to me, because I took the bait too," Van Susteren said, noting that she had interviewed Farmer.
"Maria Farmer said she saw me once in Jeffrey Epstein's house before I ever met Jeffrey Epstein!" Dershowitz bellowed. "I mean, she sees ghosts! This is a completely non-credible nut case that nobody should believe! Just because it's in the files doesn't make it true!"
"The same women, the same, what do they call themselves, survivors who claim that they want transparency. They want transparency for thee, but not for me. They don't want transparency about the women who themselves were procuring young girls for Jeffrey Epstein and getting paid $250. They don't want that kind of transparency."
Dershowitz acknowledged there were "real victims" in the Epstein case but downplayed their stories.
"Because no congressman, senator, and except for you and a few other people, no member of the media is prepared to get up and say, I doubt the words of these accusers, I doubt the words of these victims, I doubt the words of these survivors!" he complained.
"I mean, you're telling me that I got it wrong about this woman," Van Susteren said. "I mean, how do I know that?"
"Except that I'm lucky enough to have, you know, booked you," she added.
"If you dare, dare to suggest that some of these alleged victims and survivors are phonies, and they're making up stories for their own lining their own pocket, you're called a victim-shamer, and you're called an Epstein supporter. Well, I'm prepared to take that on. Where's the ACLU? They're supposed to defend civil liberties!" Dershowitz insisted.
