"They're very focused on changing these outcomes," Carpenter told anchor Nicolle Wallace. "When Donald Trump talks about, like, we've identified 15 places where we might have to take over elections, they have surgical precision for how they want to approach this. And so, you know, I have a lot of optimism going forward because I've seen the people of Minnesota, such a great national example of what they were willing to do to protect their democracy, to turn out in the streets. I've seen it in the people of Chicago, and people are rejecting this."
"I don't know if you saw, Nicolle, but to Donald Trump put his image in a big banner over the Department of Justice, right above the words Department of Justice, literally as if, 'Look, I am above the law,'" said Carpenter. "And maybe that does jazz up some MAGA supporters, but I think most Americans, because it is in our DNA to reject this sort of tyranny, to look at that and say, that is not what America is supposed to be."
Furthermore, she argued, Americans can separate out their own love of country from the personality cult of its leader.
"You can celebrate the 250th anniversary of America, but you can say no to that," said Carpenter. "You can say no to this looming image hanging over your head, his mugshot, what it looks like on the Department of Justice and say that has gone too far because, you know, this sort of propaganda presidency that we see, this is about him taking up public space that he doesn't own or deserve our tax dollars, pay for that building, and those prosecutors to uphold the rule of law, not protect Donald Trump and do his bidding."
Ultimately, she said, "I think that is just the perfect image. And I looked at that and it just completely energized me to do the work I do. And I think if more people look at that, they'll feel the same."
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