"Your border czar Tom Homan said they can be deported together. Is that the plan?"
"I don't want to be breaking up families, so the only way you don't break up the family is you keep them together and you have to send them all back," Trump said.
"Even kids who are here legally?" Welker asked, suggesting there are around four million families who Trump is saying he would deport.
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"Look, we have to have rules and regulations," Trump claimed. "You can always find something out like, you know, this doesn't work, that doesn't work. I'll tell you what's gonna be horrible, when we take a wonderful young woman who's with a criminal, and they show the woman and she could stay by the law, but they show the woman being taken out, or they want her out and your cameras are focused on her as she's crying as she's being taken out of our country, and then the public turns against us. But we have to do our job. And you have to have a series of standards and a series of laws. And in the end, look, our country is a mess."
HuffPost adds that later in the interview, Trump promised to deport U.S. citizens to countries where they may have never even visited, "humanely."
“We’ll send the whole family, very humanely, back to the country where they came. That way the family’s not separated,” he said. “The family may decide to say, ‘I’d rather have Dad go, and we’ll stay here.’ And in which case they have that option.”
Welker also said to Trump, "You promised to end birthright citizenship on day one."
"Correct," the President-elect replied.
"Is that still your plan?" she asked.
"Yeah. Absolutely," Trump vowed.
HuffPost also reports that "in the interview, Trump vowed to use an executive action to end birthright citizenship, something that is enshrined in the 14th Amendment of the Constitution."
"When asked if that’s even possible, he said, 'Well, we’re going to have to get it changed. We’ll maybe have to go back to the people. But we have to end it.' He incorrectly said that America is the only country to have birthright citizenship — about three dozen countries, including Canada and Mexico, provide birthright citizenship."
Birthright citizenship means children born in this country are automatically U.S. citizens, regardless of the immigration status of their parents. The 14th Amendment guarantees this right.
Back in September, just days after his lie that migrants from Haiti are “eating the dogs” and “eating the cats” of the residents of Springfield, Ohio, Trump, apparently for the first time, invoked language used by the far-right in Europe to vow he will also forcibly deport millions of legal immigrants from those swing states and the rest of the country if elected President in November.
Trump called for “remigration,” the forceful deportation of immigrants, including those in the U.S. under lawful and unlawful circumstances. He vowed to “end the migrant invasion of America,” and falsely characterized some programs that allow legal entry to the U.S. under law.
Legal experts have said Trump's plan to deport U.S. citizens is unconstitutional and violates the 14th Amendment, but the ultimate arbiter will likely be the Roberts Supreme Court, which has a 6-3 right-wing majority, including three justices who Trump appointed during his first term. That same court handed Trump sweeping immunity, saying any action a president takes during the course of their duties cannot be prosecuted.
On Friday, before the interview aired, California Attorney General Rob Bonta on his official social media account on X wrote: "Donald Trump likes to do what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants, regardless of the constitution or the rule of law. We’re preparing to hold him accountable for lawbreaking."
Overnight, on his personal X account, Bonta added:
"Trump admits he plans to deport…wait for it…US citizens
Um, that’s not a thing
& it’s unlawful
While Trump wants to do what he wants, when & how he wants, the presidency is limited in its authority by the Constitution & rule of law
If Trump breaks the law, we’ll stop him."
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Earlier last week Bonta sat down with CNN's Jake Tapper to lay out his plan to fight Trump if he engages in unconstitutional acts.
Other critics also blasted the President-elect.
"The forced deportation of roughly five million U.S. citizen children with undocumented parents would rank among the worst atrocities this country has ever carried out in its history," observed attorney and immigration expert Aaron Reichlin-Melnick.
"Trump talking casually about violating the Constitution and deporting legal US citizens… this should be on the front page of every newspaper in the country," wrote California Democratic state Senator Sasha Renée Pérez.
Immigration attorney Allen Orr, Jr. warned, "No, a President / #Trump cannot deport U.S. citizens. Under the 14th Amendment, U.S. citizenship cannot be revoked arbitrarily. See: Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967)."
Ahmed Baba, a columnist at The Independent and co-founder of Rantt Media responded, writing: "1) We warned Trump would try to target legal immigrants and US citizens. 2) This move is incredibly illegal, just like his call to end birthright citizenship. 3) We’re about to find out how far-right the Supreme Court has truly become when these moves are tested in court."
"Trump is promising a lot of illegal and unconstitutional moves," he also wrote. "Many of them will be immediately slowed by the courts. He’s not all powerful. How much SCOTUS lets this lame duck POTUS violate the constitution will be the key metric of how bad things get."
Professor of Law and immigration attorney Charles Kuck warned undocumented parents with children who are U.S. citizens, "Trump will order DOS [Dept. of State] to not issue passports. Folks who have little kids should be getting the passports now."
"Trump will be issuing an executive order on January 20, 2025, ordering the Department of State to stop issuing US Passports to children born in the US to undocumented parents, and possibly even to parents on nonimmigrant visas, it is essential that those children be applying for US Passports immediately, using the expedite option from Department of State," he added. "It is also highly likely that he will order USCIS to refuse to accept Form I-130 petitions from US citizen children for undocumented parents. So, file the Petitions now! I have no doubt that the courts will strike this down as unconstitutional, but it will not be a fast fight."
Immigration attorney Curtis Morrison late Sunday night concurred: "If you’re the undocumented parent of US citizen kids but those kids don’t have US passports, take care of that tomorrow."
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