Former Current TV host John Fugelsang gave a theology lesson to disgraced former Navy chaplain Gordon "Dr. Chaps" Klingenschmitt during a joint appearance on The Ed Show Friday in a debate over the religious implications of the Affordable Care Act.
"You know, Jesus never asked a leper for a co-pay," Fugelsang told Klingenschmitt and host Ed Schultz. "And in Matthew 10:70, he commands his followers to heal the sick. Every option of healthcare on the exchange allows for a woman to choose a provider that will only allow abortion in cases of rape or incest. Where the chaplain's being disingenuous is, the only time this will ever pay for abortion is, in the case of rape or incest or if you believe, as the chaplain does, that contraception is the same as abortion."
Fugelsang went on to note to Kliengenschmitt that while Jesus Christ did not condemn abortion in the biblical gospels, he does speak out against "killing the sinner" via the death penalty.
"Have you, sir, ever once protested your tax dollars being taken to fund state-sanctioned killing?" Fugelsang asked Klingenschmitt. "I'll take you seriously as 'pro-life' if you've ever once protested your tax dollars funding executions."
"It's quite the opposite," Klingenschmitt responded. "Jesus said in Mark 15, if anyone disobeys or dishonors his mother and father he should be put to death."
"No sir, he did not say that," Fugelsang shot back. "He's quoting Leviticus. He's throwing that back in the face of the Pharisees -- some of us know that story, sir."
"If somebody offends a child, he should have a millstone thrown around his neck and be thrown to the depth of the sea," Klingenschmitt answered. "So Jesus does oppose abortion."
Klingenschmitt also attempted to cite a debunked survey claiming "83 percent of doctors" have considered opting out of the law, commonly known as Obamacare, before Fugelsang pressed him on the death penalty issue.
"I think Jesus is in favor of guilty people having the death penalty, not the innocent," Klingenschmitt responded.
Watch the discussion, aired Friday on MSNBC, below.
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