As part of a discussion about former President Donald Trump's lawsuits, former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance and legal expert for The Nation, Elie Mystal, both concluded that the ex-president has finally hit the wall.
According to Mystal, Trump's latest lawsuit trying to prevent the documents around the Jan. 6 attack seemed like a blatant coverup attempt.
"Let's not lose sight of the fact that what Trump is arguing is that he has a privileged interest in keeping the public from seeking documents relating to a coup against the United States government," said Mystal. "His argument is a little like a cop coming up to me saying, 'Hey, Elie, do you know anything about the murder on Main and 14th Street' and me saying 'You can't see my gun!'"
He went on to explain that if Trump is going this hard "to the mattresses," then "maybe there is something we need to see."
But it was Vance who explained that what the Jan. 6 Committee and the other personal lawsuits have proven is that people aren't as scared of Trump as they once were. On Monday, Trump was unable to fight off a deposition under oath about allegedly ordering attacks on protesters injured by his bodyguards in 2015.
"Trump is a bully and always been a bully," said Vance. "And that's clear in his conduct, in this particular case, where part of this deposition today involved Trump being confronted with evidence where he encouraged the crowd to engage in violence."
Vance referenced the judge's decision to allow a video showing all of the times Trump told his rally attendees to hurt protesters and that he would pay the legal fees.
"We don't know the specifics of questions and answers, but in these civil cases," Vance continued. "Whether it's this one or the Summer Zervos's defamation case, or whether the case brought by E. Jean Carroll alleging that Trump defamed her over an alleged rape that occurred 20 years ago, if that case is permitted to go forward. All of these cases as they move forward subject Trump to the risk of deposition under oath of more of the truth coming forward and of more of his mystique and myth crumbling. And it seems likely they there are finally litigants not taking no for an answer."
See the full conversation below:
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Capitol riot committee releases resolution calling for Steve Bannon to face criminal contempt charges
The House Select Committee investigating the January 6th riots at the United States Capitol has taken one step closer to getting former Trump political strategist Steve Bannon hit with criminal charges.
Via Politico's Kyle Cheney, the committee on Monday issued a report and resolution recommending a referral of criminal charges for Bannon, who so far has defied its subpoenas ordering his testimony.
The committee's report began by detailing the reasons it is seeking Bannon's testimony.
"Mr. Bannon appears to have had multiple roles relevant to this investigation, including his role in constructing and participating in the 'stop the steal' public relations effort that motivated the attack, his efforts to plan political and other activity in advance of January 6th, and his participation in the events of that day from a 'war room' organized at the Willard InterContinental Washington D.C. Hotel," the committee writes. "Although he was a private citizen not employed by the White House at the time, he reportedly spoke with Mr. Trump directly regarding the plans for January 6th on at least one occasion."
The committee then outlined the legal statute that it says "makes clear that a witness summoned before Congress must appear or be 'deemed guilty of a misdemeanor' punishable by a fine of up to $100,000 and imprisonment for up to 1 year."
The full committee is set to vote on a resolution recommending criminal charges for Bannon on Tuesday.
On CNN Monday, Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), a member of the House committee investigating the January 6 Capitol attack, tore apart former Trump adviser Steve Bannon's reasoning for defying congressional subpoenas.
"Your select committee just told Steve Bannon once again that he must comply with the subpoena or face possible criminal contempt charges," said anchor Wolf Blitzer. "He had until 6 p.m. half an hour ago, to submit a written response if he feels there are any other issues. As far as you know, did he respond?"
"So far as I'm aware, he did not," said Lofgren. "At least I've not been advised by staff that he has. His claim of executive privilege is just really a stretch. First, he was not even an employee of the White House or the federal government and so would not ordinarily be covered by any executive privilege claim. Further, even if that weren't the case, we want to talk to him about conversations he had. The plot that he may have held with other people, with organizers in the political arena. With political figures. Both in the Congress and in state legislatures. That has nothing to do with his communications with the former president."
She then warned that the committee's patience had run out.
"You can't just say, well, I'm not coming in," continued Lofgren. "The law requires when a subpoena has been dually issued, as this one was, to come in and make your case. State your case about why you think you are excused from telling the truth. He didn't even do that. So we feel this is behavior is outrageous. Outrageous behavior on the part of Mr. Bannon. We will have a discussion tomorrow night. Take a vote on whether to refer this to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution."
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