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Ali Velshi befuddles GOPer by dropping fact bombs on tax plan: ‘That stuff the president says is not true’

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MSNBC host Ali Velshi on Tuesday explained to Sen. John Hoeven (R-ND) that assumptions Republicans are making in their tax reform plan are not based on facts.

During a Tuesday morning interview, Velshi pointed to a “very strange” claim made by President Donald Trump’s administration, that cutting corporate taxes results in individual families “getting between $4,000 and $9,000.”

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“It’s very hard for us to do the math to back that up,” the MSNBC host noted.

Hoeven argued that Republicans are “using very conservative assumptions” to make that claim.

“What we’re already seeing with the regulatory relief is the GDP in our country is already up to 3.1 percent,” Hoeven said.

“It’s 2.2 percent,” Velshi interrupted.

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“But it’s consistently been coming up,” Hoeven replied. “And now when you combine that with tax relief, you’re going to see stronger economic growth.”

“I just need to correct you there, Senator,” Velshi interrupted again. “The longterm — for 30 years or something — it’s been 2.1 percent or 2.2. That stuff the president says, it’s not true.”

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Hoeven answered by reaching back to World War II for a time when economic growth was over 3 percent.

But Velshi wouldn’t let him finish.

“We generally divide that up,” the host said. “We end it in 1970 because we were building highways and we were busy building the roads [before 1970]. When you think about 1970 to now, it’s 2.1 percent, sir.”

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“That’s the point!” Hoeven insisted. “We want to get that growth rate up.”

“But you understand that during the war and 1970 we were building the U.S. highway system,” Velshi said. “We were creating all sorts of infrastructure. We build no federal infrastructure now in the United States at all. We were sort of shoring up the rest of the world.”

“What’s the driver?” Velshi added. “No taxes never drives growth. There’s got to be something that actually drives economic growth.”

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‘I’m the one who calls the shots’: Trump rails against Fox News for giving him ‘his worst polls’

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President Donald Trump explained why Fox News has drawn his ire and that they need to realize he's the one in control of them.

In a conversation on the tarmac in Morristown, New Jersey on his way back to Washington, Trump said that Fox News has not been good to him lately.

"Fox is a lot different than it used to be, I can tell you that," Trump said.

In an earlier Twitter rant, the president went off on Juan Williams for being "nasty and wrong."

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Trump explains why he wants to buy Greenland to reporters: ‘It’s a large real estate deal — a lot can be done’

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President Donald Trump reaffirmed his desire to buy Greenland in discussion with reporters Sunday.

The president was returning to Washington, D.C. when he stopped at the airport in Morristown, New Jersey. New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman asked the president about his desire to buy the country from Denmark.

"Greenland, I don't know. It got released somehow," Trump said of the news about his desire to buy the country. "It's something we talked about. Denmark essentially owns it. We're very good allies with Denmark. We protect Denmark like we protect large portions of the world. So the concept came up, and I said, strategically, it's interesting. And we'd be interested. We'll talk to them a little bit. It's not number one on the burner; I can tell you that."

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‘They love the meanest parts of him’: Conservative writer explains why evangelical Christians stick with Trump

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Ben Howe, a conservative writer and evangelical Christian who refuses to support Donald Trump, explained why fellow evangelicals continue to back the president despite his decidedly ungodly behavior.

Speaking with the Atlantic’s Emma Green about his new book The Immoral Majority, Howe — whose evangelical bona fides include attending pastor Jerry Falwell’s church as a kid — described evangelicals’ support for Trump, insisting “they love the meanest parts of him.”

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