The discussion got heated in a CNN panel discussion Sunday. Trump apologist Ben Ferguson claimed Democrats were to blame for refusing to give Trump the money he requested while Republicans ruled the House and Senate.
Republican strategist Tara Setmayer began by criticizing the White House for sending out people like Stephen Miller to comment on immigration reform. She called him nothing more than a “brownshirt,” a reference to members of an early Nazi militia.
“I don’t know why they continue to put Stephen Miller out there,” she continued. “Probably to placate his base. He’s good for that. As far as explaining it to people who are looking at this as objective observers, the answer would be ‘no.'”
She went on to say that no president should “throw around” their power the way Trump is doing.
“You’re not an imperial president,” she said. “There’s nothing conservative about this. Shame on the GOP who actually try to justify this as constitutional.”
The Trump shill tried to justify the national emergency by conflating it as nothing more than a kind of executive order. Setmayer cut in to explain that no president has ever attempted to circumvent Congressional appropriations funding with such an order.
Ferguson said that it didn’t matter that Republicans held the House and the Senate because they needed Democratic votes to pass a funding bill for the wall. As a fact-check, they did not need Democratic votes. Instead, the Republicans needed every member of the GOP to support the president’s border wall. So, what Ferguson is admitting is that neither President Trump, nor Senate Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) or then-Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) controlled their own caucus.
Ferguson was quickly called out for false information by host Ana Cabrara, but Ferguson went off talking about children being raped by immigrants. She pointed it out as “the divide in the Republican Party.”
“Right, because I’m dealing with reality and Ben is trying to justify the BS from the president,” Setmayer shouted over Ferguson and the host.
When Democratic strategist Joe Trippi was allowed to speak, Ferguson immediately began talking over him.
“Hey, Ben, you were the one who didn’t want anybody interrupting you, please don’t interrupt me,” Trippi said. Ferguson continued to speak over him. “Ben, no!”
Ferguson kept repeating over and over that Republicans did try to pass a bill. No one disputed it, rather than the GOP held an overwhelming majority in the House and enough of a majority in the Senate that they could have held a vote. Their problem was in their own party.
Democrats were willing at one point to give Trump $20 billion in wall funding, but Trump turned it down. Trippi said this alone should be enough to discount the claim of it being a “national emergency.”
Ferguson kept talking over everyone and it devolved into chaos from there.
Rick Santorum smacked down for claiming Sondland testimony helped Trump
On Wednesday's edition of CNN's "Cuomo Prime Time," former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) tried to argue that the testimony of E.U. Ambassador Gordon Sondland actually helped President Donald Trump — and was promptly challenged.
"I think the Democrats had a good morning. I don't think they had a good afternoon," said Santorum. "I think what when the Republicans actually started questioning Sondland about the details, I think it fell apart a little bit."
"How so?" asked Chris Cuomo.
"He said the president never said any of these things to him," said Santorum. "In fact, what the president said, he quoted what the president said is, no, there's no quid pro quo. What he says is, well, I'm surmising, this is what I'm just sort of gathering. Did anything come from the president? No, it came from Rudy Giuliani."
Dem lawmaker demolishes GOP defense that Trump still did more for Ukraine than Obama
During the impeachment testimony of State Department officials Laura Cooper and David Hale, Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) used his time to dismantle a growing defense of President Donald Trump's apparent use of Ukrainian foreign aid for an extortion scheme: that Obama didn't give Ukraine aid either, so Trump didn't even have to.
"Now as to the justification," said Swalwell. "The justification is that the Obama administration only provided blankets, so the Ukrainians should be grateful, even after being shaken down, that the Trump administration provided more, but the truth, Ms. Cooper, is that under the Obama administration and the European Reassurance Initiative, $175 million were provided from U.S. taxpayer dollars to the Ukrainians, is that right?"
Trumper Scott Jennings slams Devin Nunes for ‘being caught totally flat-footed’
It's clear the morning testimony didn't go as well as Republicans had wanted. The concern was evident on the face of House Minority Leader Devin Nunes (R-CA), who exchanged glances with the GOP counsel.
Republican Scott Jennings is quick to defend the White House and the GOP, but Wednesday even he was forced to concede his party wasn't prepared for what EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland testified.
CNN host John King noted that the Republican counsel brought up Rudy Giuliani and his business relationships in Ukraine, outside of his work for President Donald Trump.