Tony Schwartz, the co-author for President Donald Trump's book The Art of the Deal, appeared on CNN Wednesday evening to discuss the new revelation that Trump lost over a billion dollars in his businesses and used the losses to avoid paying at least eight years of federal income taxes.
One of the biggest things to understand, he told Anderson Cooper, was that the president was able to put up this false image of himself all those years because he is a cut-and-dried sociopath.
"I find it really interesting that he could maintain this facade of, you know, huge success and constantly, you know, trumpeting his brilliance, when in fact there was all of this stuff crumbling," said Cooper. "I mean, the pressure of it must have been intense."
"If I had to rename The Art of the Deal, I would call it The Sociopath," said Schwartz. "And I think that's a window into why he doesn't experience the kind of overwhelm and pressure and tension at the level you or I would or most people would, because he has no conscience, he has no guilt."
"All he wants to do is make the case that he would like to be true," said Schwartz. "And while I do think that he's probably aware that more walls are closing around him than ever before, he does not experience the world in the way an ordinary human being would."
"You're saying he's a sociopath?" Cooper pressed him.
"Without any question," said Schwartz. "You know, I encourage people who wonder about that to simply Google 'sociopath,' and the first or second entry gives you like nine or ten descriptive words about what a sociopath is. It always includes a kind of pathological narcissism, which is what many people describe him as being, but it adds the element of absence of conscience. And that changes everything."