Former federal prosecutor Mimi Rocah explained Wednesday that Congress must call those involved in the special counsel’s investigation to testify.
During the afternoon panel for Nicolle Wallace, NBC News correspondent Heidi Przybyla explained that the Judiciary Committee members are so frustrated by the lack of people appearing in their hearings. Others believe the U.S. should be in an active impeachment mode. Others believe “Mueller should have been there two weeks ago,” she said.
Przybyla said that none seem to understand why special counsel Robert Mueller is so resistant to testifying.
“We understand the basic contours of it, he doesn’t want to get in the middle of a big political fight and make the rest of his life worse,” she continued. “Any worse than it’s already going to be having been the person at the center of all of this. But nothing changes in terms of the dynamic right now, unless and until he comes up there.”
Wallace argued that unless Democrats can get Mueller or at least someone from his office to explain in real time the decisions that were made, they’re done.
“The reality is, I think, this thing is over without some human beings that either conducted the investigation or were interviewed by the investigators,” Wallace said. “This is a ‘lights out’ moment.”
Rocah said that she understands Mueller’s reluctance to testify before Congress, but that he needs to do it anyway.
“I think that hopefully, he can differentiate between needing to testify and spin his report, sell his report, versus testify and just describe and explain the findings in his report,” Rocah said. “That’s what we need right now. I think every time as you highlighted on your show, one piece of evidence from the report gets examined and highlighted, people go, ‘Whoa! Really? That happened?’ But it’s lost in the sea of bad facts from Trump.”
She said it’s Mueller that must walk Americans through his findings. He shouldn’t feel as though he’s a political pawn, he simply needs to explain things, not sell the report.
Watch the full discussion below:
WATCH: Saturday Night Live airs Christmas special — that’s just one giant dig at the Electoral College
NBC's "Saturday Night Live" aired an opening skit that was just one giant attack on the electoral college.
A snowman introduced the segment, saying that we could look in on the holiday table conversation thanks to hacked Nest cams.
The skit featured a house in San Francisco, California, a second in Charleston, South Carolina and a third in Atlanta, Georgia.
Each dinner table debated impeachment, and the differences between President Donald Trump and his predecessor, President Barack Obama.
But then the snowman said that none of their votes matter.
"They'll debate the issues all year long, but then it all comes down to 1,000 people in Wisconsin who won't even think about the election until the morning of," the snowman said. "And that's the magic of the Electoral College."
Georgia mayor being recalled for racism resigns from office: report
Hoschton Mayor Theresa Kenerly resigned in a special city council meeting held on Saturday, the Atlanta Journal Constitution reported Saturday.
"The resignation came just days after Councilman Jim Cleveland resigned saying he‘d rather leave office on his own terms than face voters in a recall election next month," the newspaper reported. "Both resignations follow an AJC investigation launched seven months ago into claims that an African American candidate for city administrator was sidetracked by Mayor Theresa Kenerly because of his race."
Nine 2020 Democrats unite to demand DNC Chair Tom Perez scrap debate rules: report
The Democratic National Committee is facing a revolt for the party's 2020 presidential candidates for its restrictive debate rules.
"Nine Democratic presidential candidates, including the party's front-runners, are urging the Democratic National Committee to toss out the current polling and fundraising rules used to determine who appears in televised debates and reopen the exchanges to better reflect the historic diversity of the current field. The candidates say the rules exclude diverse candidates in the field from participating," CBS News reported Saturday evening.