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Android expenses questioned at Oracle copyright trial

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SAN FRANCISCO — Jurors on Thursday continued to weigh whether Android infringed on Java copyrights as the trial judge ordered Google to clarify how much money has been made or lost on the mobile gadget software.

The order in the case pitting Internet titan Google against business software giant Oracle came after the judge fielded a question from the jury, which began deliberations on Monday in San Francisco federal court.

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With the jury out of the courtroom, Oracle lawyers challenged a Google document indicating that Android expenses more than wiped out the “product contribution” to revenue through 2010 and well into 2011.

“We are talking about huge numbers here,” US District Court Judge William Alsup said while considering whether jurors should be able to rely on the document in the event of a damages phase to the trial.

“If the jury finds liability, $600 million could turn on whether the jury believes these numbers are good.”

Alsup gave Google until Monday to provide reliable accounting paperwork itemizing how Android profit-and-loss figures were calculated and wanted the person handling the numbers deposed.

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“If that was the way it was done in the actual course of business, fine, that can go before the jury,” Alsup said of the financial figures.

If it is shown Android has been a money loser for Google, there would be no profits to “disgorge” as demanded by Oracle, the judge noted.

The trial is being conducted in separate phases to address copyright and then patent infringement accusations by Oracle. The patent portion is to begin on Monday, unless the jury has not finished deliberations regarding copyright.

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Oracle is accusing Google of infringing on Java computer programming language patents and copyrights Oracle obtained when it bought Java inventor Sun Microsystems in a $7.4 billion deal brokered in 2009.

Google has denied the claims and said it believes mobile phone makers and other users of its open-source Android operating system are entitled to use the Java technology in dispute.

Google unveiled the free Android operating system two years before Oracle bought Sun.

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Protecting and profiting from Java software technology were prime reasons for Oracle’s decision in 2009 to buy Sun, according to evidence presented at trial.

Part of the Google defense is that Oracle couldn’t figure out a way into the smartphone market so is trying to leech off of Android’s success by pressing claims regarding Java software that Sun made publicly available.

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Trump lies to the press about his massive tax increasing while departing to France for the G7 Summit

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President Donald Trump was caught repeating inaccurate claims when he spoke to reporters before boarding Marine One for his trip to France for the G7 Summit.

"I think our tariffs are very good for us. We're taking in tens of billions of dollars, China is paying for it," Trump argued.

In reality, China is not paying for the tariffs, which are paid by American importers and passed on to consumers, making the announcement a massive tax increase on Americans.

"Our tariffs are working out very well for us, people don't understand that yet," Trump argued.

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Bill Maher presents ’25 things you don’t know about Stephen Miller’ on Real Time

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The host of HBO's "Real Time" presented "25 things you don’t know about Stephen Miller" on Friday.

"In high school, I was voted 'Most Likely to Comb My Mummified Mother's Hair,'" was one item.

"I think tacos are stealing jobs from hamburgers," was another.

"I'm a Cancer. I don't know my astrological sign," was a third.

"The worst part about my car smelling like wet dogs, is that I don't own dogs," was a fourth.

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Bill Maher dances on David Koch’s grave: ‘I’m glad he’s dead and I hope the end was painful’

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HBO "Real Time" host Bill Maher celebrated the death of right-wing billionaire David Koch, who died of prostate cancer.

"I guess I'm going to have to reevaluate my low opinion of prostate cancer," Maher said.

"Condolences poured in from all the politicians he owned and mourners are being asked, in lieu of flowers, to just leave their car engine running," he said.

"I know these seem like harsh words and harsh jokes, and I'm sure I will be condemned for them on Fox News, which will portray Mr. Koch as a principled libertarian who believed in the free market," Maher said. "He and his brother have done more than anybody to fund climate science deniers -- for decades."

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